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(The New York Times)   For the God so loved the world that He sent Turritopsis dohrnii, that he who benefits from genetic studies of this immortal jellyfish shall not perish but have eternal life   (nytimes.com) divider line 52
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2012-11-29 12:42:20 PM  
The discovery was made unwittingly by Christian Sommer, a German marine-biology student in his early 20s.

so a Christian discovers the secret to immortatility. Suck it atheists.
 
2012-11-29 01:22:07 PM  
The downside of course is that to be immortal you have be a brainless gelatinous mass.
 
2012-11-29 01:28:23 PM  
FTFA: "Once we determine how the jellyfish rejuvenates itself, we should achieve very great things. My opinion is that we will evolve and become immortal ourselves."

We can rename this planet Gideon.
 
2012-11-29 01:30:05 PM  

Sybarite: The downside of course is that to be immortal you have be a brainless gelatinous mass.


So you're saying politicians will be the primary beneficiaries?
 
2012-11-29 01:38:59 PM  
This seems like a strange phrase to type, but here it goes:

I'm excited to hear about the key to unlocking immortality but not excited enough to read a 9 page article about it.
 
2012-11-29 01:40:16 PM  
s8.postimage.org ?

Sybarite:
The downside of course is that to be immortal you have be a brainless gelatinous mass.

So...Rush is going to live forever then? How thoroughly depressing.
 
2012-11-29 01:42:23 PM  

Sybarite: The downside of course is that to be immortal you have be a brainless gelatinous mass.


Well that, and the whole "reverse aging" thing, the trip back trhough the birth canal would SUCK
 
2012-11-29 01:42:37 PM  
Secret to be unlocked the day after your death
 
2012-11-29 01:45:17 PM  
Well, I just thought of the plot for my next scifi/horror movie script...
 
2012-11-29 01:45:47 PM  

kbronsito: The discovery was made unwittingly by Christian Sommer, a German marine-biology student in his early 20s.

so a Christian discovers the secret to immortatility. Suck it atheists.


You... are... magical!

+1 interknots for you!
 
2012-11-29 01:46:10 PM  
Nutters.
 
2012-11-29 01:51:43 PM  
Human immortality? It has happened, but it's not as pleasant as you might think. Just ask Henrietta Lacks.
 
2012-11-29 02:00:43 PM  
So a Japanese researcher is studying an immortal animal with tentacles...this can't possibly go wrong
 
2012-11-29 02:04:39 PM  

Ivo Shandor: Human immortality? It has happened, but it's not as pleasant as you might think. Just ask Henrietta Lacks.


To hell with interstellar travel...I want to live FOREVER!!!

/prolly not obscure
 
2012-11-29 02:09:44 PM  
We now know, for instance, that the rejuvenation of Turritopsis dohrnii and some other members of the genus is caused by environmental stress or physical assault. We know that, during rejuvenation, it undergoes cellular transdifferentiation, an unusual process by which one type of cell is converted into another

Rings a bell...

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-11-29 02:10:29 PM  
I always find it weird when I come across something actually interesting on FARK
/besides the BIE...
 
2012-11-29 02:10:45 PM  
"Who wants to live forever"
- Billy Idol
 
2012-11-29 02:32:11 PM  
Thanks for sharing, Subby. Very interesting article. It's worth reading all the way through- the last couple of pages will make you feel sad for Dr. Kubota.
 
2012-11-29 02:32:34 PM  
Humans can do something similiar.. two of our species can take a cell from each and regenerate new humans at will, and this without even dying. We are immortal!
 
2012-11-29 02:37:16 PM  
FTA: You might expect that... (Bla bla etc.) governments would broker international accords to govern the future use of rejuvenating technology.

Yeah, I think I read that in a book somewhere. Didn't turn out so well.
 
2012-11-29 02:55:07 PM  
One of the biggest ironies of science is it has the potential to greatly improve the lives of other people while simultaneously destroy the lives of the scientists themselves.
 
2012-11-29 04:01:00 PM  

whistleridge: [s8.postimage.org image 611x404] ?

Sybarite: The downside of course is that to be immortal you have be a brainless gelatinous mass.

So...Rush is going to live forever then? How thoroughly depressing.


seriously. Geddy Lee already looks like a 90 year old gypsy woman. Peart and Liefson aren't exactly winning any beauty pageants lately either.
 
2012-11-29 04:02:27 PM  
Jellyfish is actually a tasty dish when prepared correctly
 
2012-11-29 04:06:32 PM  

stonelotus:
So...Rush is going to live forever then? How thoroughly depressing.

seriously. Geddy Lee already looks like a 90 year old gypsy woman. Peart and Liefson aren't exactly winning any beauty pageants lately either.


static4.depositphotos.com

I see what you did there...
 
2012-11-29 04:20:55 PM  

Sybarite: The downside of course is that to be immortal you have be a brainless gelatinous mass.


We're getting there, one Honey Boo Boo at a time.
 
2012-11-29 04:24:27 PM  

redly1: Jellyfish is actually a tasty dish when prepared correctly


Is it? I've always wondered. I like to watch Animal Planet like it's the Food Network.

/abused dogs don't look tasty
 
2012-11-29 04:34:38 PM  
We're gonna find QA washed up on a beach somewhere, after trying to swim with the jellyfishes, aren't we.
 
2012-11-29 04:58:14 PM  
Immortality is the single most exciting and most terrifying discovery I think we could make...

Culturally, we'd go from the equivalent of the written word to computers. Imagine how effective our scientists would be if they never grew old and died? But some type of control would have to be put in place or we'd crush ourselves with massive over population.

Maybe make people choose: Fertility or immortality.

Now, one time treatment vs. required medication... totally different conversation.
 
2012-11-29 05:02:40 PM  

stonelotus: whistleridge: [s8.postimage.org image 611x404] ?

Sybarite: The downside of course is that to be immortal you have be a brainless gelatinous mass.

So...Rush is going to live forever then? How thoroughly depressing.

seriously. Geddy Lee already looks like a 90 year old gypsy woman. Peart and Liefson aren't exactly winning any beauty pageants lately either.


Silly joke aside about Rush, the jellyfish in question reverts to an infantile state and then resumes life anew. They don't just keep getting older, the fark of the crux is that they can actually become younger and then resume living.

They still die when they starve or are eaten. And certain individuals are unable to undergo the reversal due to certain physical characteristics.

Extant biological knowledge unequivocally states this is impossible. Yet here is a simple jellyfish doing it. Jellyfish DNA is not complicated, and jellyfish cellular structure is very simple. The idea is that we can induce the same process in humans. Then what? Hard to say.
 
2012-11-29 05:02:42 PM  

theorellior: We're gonna find QA washed up on a beach somewhere, after trying to swim with the jellyfishes, aren't we.


You'd think he would have been all about this thread. This is his brand of Nuttery.
 
2012-11-29 05:39:29 PM  

casual disregard: stonelotus: whistleridge: [s8.postimage.org image 611x404] ?

Sybarite: The downside of course is that to be immortal you have be a brainless gelatinous mass.

So...Rush is going to live forever then? How thoroughly depressing.

seriously. Geddy Lee already looks like a 90 year old gypsy woman. Peart and Liefson aren't exactly winning any beauty pageants lately either.

Silly joke aside about Rush, the jellyfish in question reverts to an infantile state and then resumes life anew. They don't just keep getting older, the fark of the crux is that they can actually become younger and then resume living.

They still die when they starve or are eaten. And certain individuals are unable to undergo the reversal due to certain physical characteristics.

Extant biological knowledge unequivocally states this is impossible. Yet here is a simple jellyfish doing it. Jellyfish DNA is not complicated, and jellyfish cellular structure is very simple. The idea is that we can induce the same process in humans. Then what? Hard to say.


History Monks?
 
2012-11-29 05:51:10 PM  
I've heard of turritopsis nutricula doing this... is this something the entire turritopsis family exhibits?

Are there friggin' immortal jellyfish from the time of the dinosaurs floating around everywhere in the ocean? Because now I feel bad throwing dead jellyfish on the beach when I was a kid.
 
2012-11-29 06:01:43 PM  

Sybarite: The downside of course is that to be immortal you have be a brainless gelatinous mass.


So that explains what reality TV is really trying to accomplish.
 
2012-11-29 06:36:03 PM  
Oh, 9 pages!? What am I, immortal?
 
2012-11-29 07:10:17 PM  
Wait what about these
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydra_%28genus%29 

//didnt think it was a particularly new discovery
 
2012-11-29 08:01:54 PM  
Julian ‶Bean" Delphiki reportedly very interested in this discovery.
 
2012-11-29 08:15:18 PM  
Dammit....Bob just turned himself back into a fetus. Why couldn't he just have had a normal midlife crisis and deal with it by buying a Corvette?
 
2012-11-29 09:37:55 PM  

BolloxReader: casual disregard: stonelotus: whistleridge: [s8.postimage.org image 611x404] ?

Sybarite: The downside of course is that to be immortal you have be a brainless gelatinous mass.

So...Rush is going to live forever then? How thoroughly depressing.

seriously. Geddy Lee already looks like a 90 year old gypsy woman. Peart and Liefson aren't exactly winning any beauty pageants lately either.

Silly joke aside about Rush, the jellyfish in question reverts to an infantile state and then resumes life anew. They don't just keep getting older, the fark of the crux is that they can actually become younger and then resume living.

They still die when they starve or are eaten. And certain individuals are unable to undergo the reversal due to certain physical characteristics.

Extant biological knowledge unequivocally states this is impossible. Yet here is a simple jellyfish doing it. Jellyfish DNA is not complicated, and jellyfish cellular structure is very simple. The idea is that we can induce the same process in humans. Then what? Hard to say.

History Monks?


That depends. Do I get to learn Deja-Fu?

/My second thoughts say that might be a bad plan.
//My third thoughts point out that I'm not sure I can have second and third thoughts, what with being a guy and thus not able to be a Discworld Witch.
 
2012-11-29 10:05:33 PM  

Mentalpatient87: Nutters.


Go back to crying over your 1970s space posters, you delusional fruitcake. When the first anti-aging drugs hit the market and you space whackjobs still won't have anything more than that treehouse for adults you call the ISS, you'll see what I mean.
 
2012-11-29 10:27:59 PM  
Yeah yeah, you're a joke and you're mad about it, I get it. Maybe you can try that "Mars condo/3d printing" bit in a few more Entertainment tab threads to feel better.
 
2012-11-29 11:45:59 PM  
We'll get around to immortality right after we get a working perpetual motion machine.
 
2012-11-30 12:05:25 AM  

Honest Bender: Immortality is the single most exciting and most terrifying discovery I think we could make...

Culturally, we'd go from the equivalent of the written word to computers. Imagine how effective our scientists would be if they never grew old and died? But some type of control would have to be put in place or we'd crush ourselves with massive over population.

Maybe make people choose: Fertility or immortality.

Now, one time treatment vs. required medication... totally different conversation.


We could go all Kryptonian and have children selectively bred to replace someone when they die from an accident or suicide, but that that just turned them all into socially awkward, emotionally stunted xenophobes. So we've pretty much just skipped the middle man.
 
2012-11-30 02:43:16 AM  

Mentalpatient87: Yeah yeah, you're a joke and you're mad about it, I get it. Maybe you can try that "Mars condo/3d printing" bit in a few more Entertainment tab threads to feel better.


Oh so you already picked out your curtains and countertop finish for your Mars condo? Gonna 3D print a living room? Private space your way there? Or going to use the space elevator? Maybe stop over at the souvenir shop in the ISS?
 
2012-11-30 10:31:13 AM  

Honest Bender:

Maybe make people choose: Fertility or immortality.


And the nerds shall inherit the Earth.
 
2012-11-30 10:57:59 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Mentalpatient87: Yeah yeah, you're a joke and you're mad about it, I get it. Maybe you can try that "Mars condo/3d printing" bit in a few more Entertainment tab threads to feel better.

Oh so you already picked out your curtains and countertop finish for your Mars condo? Gonna 3D print a living room? Private space your way there? Or going to use the space elevator? Maybe stop over at the souvenir shop in the ISS?


Man, for someone who goes out of his way to shiat all over space exploration, you sure do get touchy about your own pet sci-fi. I should favorite you as "dishes it out, can't take it."
 
2012-11-30 11:00:45 AM  
QA finally turns up in a life extension thread... To biatch about space and 3d printing?
Nice.

That aside: I don't think immortality has to be out off. I'd simply write a rule that says if you take the magic pill, you have to live someplace besides earths overcrowded surface.
There is plenty of room and resources out there, and travel time is less of an issue if the years don't matter.
It lets you preserve both the old way of life and death while using immortality where it's needed most.

/plus it forces rich people to invest in exploration, and makes world leaders choose between being oligarchs among the stars or a natural death back home.
/everyone wins.
 
2012-11-30 11:03:09 AM  

TopoGigo: Quantum Apostrophe: Mentalpatient87: Yeah yeah, you're a joke and you're mad about it, I get it. Maybe you can try that "Mars condo/3d printing" bit in a few more Entertainment tab threads to feel better.

Oh so you already picked out your curtains and countertop finish for your Mars condo? Gonna 3D print a living room? Private space your way there? Or going to use the space elevator? Maybe stop over at the souvenir shop in the ISS?

Man, for someone who goes out of his way to shiat all over space exploration, you sure do get touchy about your own pet sci-fi. I should favorite you as "dishes it out, can't take it."


So we don't live longer than we did a hundred years ago? It's all my fantasy? But we're totally gonna live in space. Got it.
 
2012-11-30 11:38:21 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Go back to crying over your 1970s space posters, you delusional fruitcake. When the first anti-aging drugs hit the market and you space whackjobs still won't have anything more than that treehouse for adults you call the ISS, you'll see what I mean.


Quantum Apostrophe: Oh so you already picked out your curtains and countertop finish for your Mars condo? Gonna 3D print a living room? Private space your way there? Or going to use the space elevator? Maybe stop over at the souvenir shop in the ISS?


Quantum Apostrophe: So we don't live longer than we did a hundred years ago? It's all my fantasy? But we're totally gonna live in space. Got it.


Awwwww, it looks like someone's atoms are feeling old this morning.
 
2012-11-30 12:09:40 PM  

theorellior: Quantum Apostrophe: Go back to crying over your 1970s space posters, you delusional fruitcake. When the first anti-aging drugs hit the market and you space whackjobs still won't have anything more than that treehouse for adults you call the ISS, you'll see what I mean.

Quantum Apostrophe: Oh so you already picked out your curtains and countertop finish for your Mars condo? Gonna 3D print a living room? Private space your way there? Or going to use the space elevator? Maybe stop over at the souvenir shop in the ISS?

Quantum Apostrophe: So we don't live longer than we did a hundred years ago? It's all my fantasy? But we're totally gonna live in space. Got it.

Awwwww, it looks like someone's atoms are feeling old this morning.


Yeah, didn't sleep well last night. The noise from the constant line up at the private space elevator kept me up. And when it wasn't that, it was the neighbor 3D printing a Concorde. Why he needs to print original Olympus turbines I don't know. Ever hear 4 afterburners at 4 in the AM? He printed the fuel tanks "full", of course.

Actually, a bar just opened on my street and I'm starting to see that some people shouldn't live longer and that they would be better off on a place with no air, IMO.
 
2012-12-01 02:12:21 AM  

theorellior: We're gonna find QA washed up on a beach somewhere, after trying to swim with the jellyfishes, aren't we.


It'll be funny watching him try to breathe air again :D

Oh look!! There he is, gasping and wriggling around on the sand at the high tide line!

What a spectacle!
 
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