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2012-11-29 04:00:14 PM  
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I hate her show, but sure as hell do not mind lookin' at her
 
2012-11-29 04:04:03 PM  

jeditanuki: [i.imgur.com image 500x333]


Came for Raiders of the Lost Ark reference, leaving satisfied.

/Asps!, very dangerous
//you go first
 
2012-11-29 04:05:29 PM  

Altman: The Good Eats reruns suck. They show the same 20 episodes over and over again. Speaking for someone who missed most of the show the first time around, I wish they would just show the episodes chronologically. We could all learn so much.


So watch them online
 
2012-11-29 04:08:12 PM  

LeafyGreens: Turns out Brown's kind of a dick 

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Wow. It's sad to hear so many stories about AB from fans who met him and found out that he's a major dickbag.
 
2012-11-29 04:10:57 PM  

LeafyGreens: Turns out Brown's kind of a dick 

(long-ish but interesting)


Had the complete opposite experience with him in San Francisco. He did a one-off show for a Science Week and he was excellent. He was funny, informative, interacted extremely well with the crowd, and was nonplussed and amused by the naked dudes outside (this was at the Castro theater). He shook just about every attendee's hand coming in, and stayed well past his scheduled time doing a Q&A with everyone that lined up to ask a question.
 
2012-11-29 04:20:05 PM  

Endive Wombat: Maybe it is because I am much further along in my culinary knowledge than what his show offers...but I have to ask: What's next? If he were to resurrect the show and continue on, what else would he cover?


Yeah, at its core its still a home cooking show, and theres just some things that are totally impractical at home on a small scale and will always separate the restaurant meal from the home cooked meal. Like sauces, i dont think he ever really went into that much. Yeah he covered stocks/broths, and made hollandaise on the eggs benedict show and bechamel for mac and cheese and made tomato sauce, but never veloute or espagnole. And dont recall him ever doing a consomme, thats not something a home cook would probably ever do. Aside from cream/cheese sauces and simple pan sauce, as wonderful as many of the small sauces are, the home cook isnt gonna make a couple gallons of brown stock, make espagnole, make demi glace and make chasseur sauce for a 4 chicken breasts for a family meal.

That said, i learned more about technique and the why, as well as the how, from Good Eats than i did my first few classes in culinary school.
 
2012-11-29 04:25:33 PM  

jjorsett: I like the printed magazine where the authors detail each failure and misstep that leads to the final recipe. Much like experimental science, without the "scrounge for grants" part.


i made their recommended "classic stuffed turkey" for thanksgiving this year and it was the best turkey we'd ever had.
 
2012-11-29 04:29:10 PM  

Psycoholic_Slag: Nana's Vibrator: I can't believe it was 13 years. You could tell he was passionate about what he was doing and it made the show fun to watch.
But instead of nearly killing himself, it would have made his life a whole lot easier if he just was a hot female in a very low v-neck top, grasping a mixing spoon or whisk and shaking her breasts side to side. That's Good Eats!

The only reason I ever watch Giada. When the wife walks into the room I say something like "hey we need to get some marzipan so we can make this recipe too!"

She's not fooled.


Giada has talent! I do the same thing for Sandra Lee, too. She gives off a weird vibe, but it's a crazy hot middle aged woman with slightly fallen breasts vibe. And when she's in action, they're mezmerizing. It's like watching a lava lamp or something. A very sexy lava lamp.
 
2012-11-29 04:29:40 PM  
Giada was flirting with Alton Brown during their "live" Turkey talk show.

images1.friendseat.com

As my wife said "You would flirt with her too".

damn straight.
 
2012-11-29 04:30:57 PM  

Cyno01: And dont recall him ever doing a consomme, thats not something a home cook would probably ever do.


I make it. But I have the knowledge, books and the tools. But you are right...reflecting back on his shows, hell...most cooking shows for that matter really lack in the advanced sauce department.
 
2012-11-29 04:37:09 PM  

LeafyGreens: Turns out Brown's kind of a dick 

(long-ish but interesting)


I read that and he didn't really come off as all that dickish. Misjudged his audience and made a couple of jokes he probably shouldn't have but that's a far cry from what I consider celebrity dickish behavior. Also if you check the comments and read what Chad, who was at the same show, has to say you can see where the author was being a little hard on Alton.
 
2012-11-29 04:40:49 PM  

TigerzDad: I haven't met AB, but I do know a number of people who worked on "Good Eats" as part of the crew and as bit players in the skits. No one I've talked to corroborates the "Alton is a dick" sentiment. They say he was (is) a hard worker, and dedicated to putting out as perfect a product as possible.



I met him at a book signing.  He was engaging with everyone, he let people with kids go first (to get them outta there for the rest of us), and did his best to keep the very long line going as fast as possible.
 
2012-11-29 04:49:08 PM  
On everything outside of "Good Eats," he comes off as somewhat condescending and standoffish, to me. Particularly his travel shows.
 
2012-11-29 04:55:48 PM  

LeafyGreens: Turns out Brown's kind of a dick 

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That's uncanny. I knew a guy who does local TV/Film production, and Alton Brown hired him to do some freelance work when he was making a local appearance and he also said Brown was a huge jerk to him. I just thought maybe he was having a bad day or he had some sort of Asperger's personality.
My friend is openly and unapologeticaly gay (and it's pretty obvious), so maybe it's the whole Southern Baptist/Conservative Republican thing.
 
2012-11-29 05:06:22 PM  

InmanRoshi: LeafyGreens: Turns out Brown's kind of a dick 

(long-ish but interesting)

That's uncanny. I knew a guy who does local TV/Film production, and Alton Brown hired him to do some freelance work when he was making a local appearance and he also said Brown was a huge jerk to him. I just thought maybe he was having a bad day or he had some sort of Asperger's personality.
My friend is openly and unapologeticaly gay (and it's pretty obvious), so maybe it's the whole Southern Baptist/Conservative Republican thing.


I've seen him at personal appearances and he took the time to talk to everyone who wanted to chat on the
autograph line.

He also was interviewed by a weekend radio news show that some friends of mine worked on and was nothing
but funny and easy to work with, and I know other people who have dealt with him in a business setting who had
nothing but gushing praise for how he treated them.

I tend to think both times he was just having a bad day, but what do I know?
 
2012-11-29 05:15:20 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: InmanRoshi: LeafyGreens: Turns out Brown's kind of a dick 

(long-ish but interesting)

That's uncanny. I knew a guy who does local TV/Film production, and Alton Brown hired him to do some freelance work when he was making a local appearance and he also said Brown was a huge jerk to him. I just thought maybe he was having a bad day or he had some sort of Asperger's personality.
My friend is openly and unapologeticaly gay (and it's pretty obvious), so maybe it's the whole Southern Baptist/Conservative Republican thing.

I've seen him at personal appearances and he took the time to talk to everyone who wanted to chat on the
autograph line.

He also was interviewed by a weekend radio news show that some friends of mine worked on and was nothing
but funny and easy to work with, and I know other people who have dealt with him in a business setting who had
nothing but gushing praise for how he treated them.

I tend to think both times he was just having a bad day, but what do I know?


He said he behaved himself when he was dealing with his adoring public, but behind the scenes he was a nightmare. My friend has been around long enough and dealt with enough high maintenance "celebrities" (I use that term loosely in describing), that it really didn't faze him much, but he said AB was by far the most miserable person he's ever had to work for. Kinda struck me weird given that he was a huge Good Eats fan going into it, and he's never really trashed anyone else he's worked with before.
 
2012-11-29 05:21:19 PM  

Thank You Black Jesus!: Fear_and_Loathing: "Alton isn't no Paula Dean."  Lol! 
 
It did get repeatitive, but I loved that show and his lack of ability on motorcycles.
 
The America's series on PBS is nice but doesn't have zing.

You haven't seen Yvonne ruperti yet. Yowza.


THIS. That woman is the hottest woman on PBS.

/i know that's not a glowing endorsement, but the woman is extremely hot.
 
2012-11-29 05:24:55 PM  

everybodylookattheirpants: Thank You Black Jesus!: Fear_and_Loathing: "Alton isn't no Paula Dean."  Lol! 
 
It did get repeatitive, but I loved that show and his lack of ability on motorcycles.
 
The America's series on PBS is nice but doesn't have zing.

You haven't seen Yvonne ruperti yet. Yowza.

THIS. That woman is the hottest woman on PBS.

/i know that's not a glowing endorsement, but the woman is extremely hot.


What? The only way she's extremely hot is if she was on fire literally.
 
2012-11-29 05:29:56 PM  
My parents hate cooking, so I never really cooked growing up. However, I've discovered I enjoy doing it when I have the time. Alton's recipes are easy and exact enough for a total novice like me to follow - I don't need to know a lot of cooking jargon.

My wife and I had family over a few weeks ago. I made Alton's pork wellington recipe. It was pretty simple, but looked like it was really complicated. I looked like a million bucks for making it.
 
2012-11-29 06:25:08 PM  

Broktun: Giada was flirting with Alton Brown during their "live" Turkey talk show.


I've seen her do some shows where it's pretty clear she likes to drink but is quite the lightweight. When she gets buzzed she really gets flirty.

I get the feeling she'd be great fun in person... her husband is one lucky son of a gun.
 
2012-11-29 06:37:00 PM  

Fear_and_Loathing: "Alton isn't no Paula Dean."  Lol! 
 
It did get repeatitive, but I loved that show and his lack of ability on motorcycles.
 
The America's series on PBS is nice but doesn't have zing.


It's boring as dirt. But they do have good recipes. I get their newsletter, and it's good. The show just blows.
 
2012-11-29 07:50:54 PM  
Thanks for reading that guys, I'd also recommend the Cook's Country shows on PBS that other people have mentioned in this thread, along with anything with Jacques Pepin.

After many years of eating, and many years of cooking, turns out that if you figure out what you like to eat, you'll figure out how to cook it pretty quickly. Not sure how that works, but it does I think.
 
2012-11-29 07:55:23 PM  
Then there was the time when they were doing the Feasting on Asphalt shows and he decided to go offroad on a highway cruiser BMW motorcycle and wiped out on the gravel. He broke his shoulder, but it easily could've been fatal.
 
2012-11-29 08:42:41 PM  

PumpkinCake: Fear_and_Loathing: "Alton isn't no Paula Dean."  Lol! 
 
It did get repeatitive, but I loved that show and his lack of ability on motorcycles.
 
The America's series on PBS is nice but doesn't have zing.

It's boring as dirt. But they do have good recipes. I get their newsletter, and it's good. The show just blows.


What'shisface has the charisma of a dead, rotting fish. That being said, I love their magazines and I have several of their books. They're who I check first for any given recipe. I HIGHLY recommend their enchiladas verde; I'm from San Diego, and that dish is pretty darned authentic (and way more authentic than anything I can get here in Seattle). They're how I learned to cook.
 
2012-11-29 08:50:38 PM  

relaxitsjustme: LeafyGreens: Turns out Brown's kind of a dick 

(long-ish but interesting)

I read that and he didn't really come off as all that dickish. Misjudged his audience and made a couple of jokes he probably shouldn't have but that's a far cry from what I consider celebrity dickish behavior. Also if you check the comments and read what Chad, who was at the same show, has to say you can see where the author was being a little hard on Alton.


I get what you're saying, but calling a black person a Negro (in the grand old Southern tradition of racism), and demeaning gay marriage in a state that ratified gay marriage comes off as beyond dickish. It's not just not understanding your audience, it's just stupid.
 
2012-11-29 09:50:44 PM  

Cyno01: And dont recall him ever doing a consomme, thats not something a home cook would probably ever do.


I am curious as to why a home cook wouldn't make consomme? It is really useful and easy to make, probably something anyone could do.

I have like 5 liters in my freezer right now that I made from whole chicken carcasses I saved in the freezer. Granted, chicken broth in Norway costs $140 a gallon for some reason I have yet to fathom. So my extremely rich (it sets up like Jello) stock is practically worth a fortune.
 
2012-11-29 10:23:47 PM  

Beta Tested: Cyno01: And dont recall him ever doing a consomme, thats not something a home cook would probably ever do.

I am curious as to why a home cook wouldn't make consomme? It is really useful and easy to make, probably something anyone could do.

I have like 5 liters in my freezer right now that I made from whole chicken carcasses I saved in the freezer. Granted, chicken broth in Norway costs $140 a gallon for some reason I have yet to fathom. So my extremely rich (it sets up like Jello) stock is practically worth a fortune.


Stock sure, but consomme is kind of a pain in the ass, idk, if im just making soup at home, well strained stock is good enough, i dont need to be able to see the bottom of my bowl.
 
2012-11-29 10:36:05 PM  

Broktun: [www.createtv.com image 195x195]


If this is Yvonne she's lost a lot of weight and looks 'taller' but yeah, yowzah! indeed.
 
2012-11-29 10:43:04 PM  

InmanRoshi: LeafyGreens:
My friend is openly and unapologeticaly gay (and it's pretty obvious), so maybe it's the whole Southern Baptist/Conservative Republican thing.


Oh, fark you, you narrow minded bigot.

We all don't have to like everyone and it has nothing to do with being from the South or conservative.

Maybe, must maybe your friend was a jerk to AB.
Or maybe your friend, being so out-and-out about his gayness is just annoying queen, at which point the problem is his not AB's.

The most intolerant people I know all turn out to be 'progressive'; why is that?
 
2012-11-29 11:04:06 PM  

douchebag/hater: InmanRoshi: LeafyGreens:
My friend is openly and unapologeticaly gay (and it's pretty obvious), so maybe it's the whole Southern Baptist/Conservative Republican thing.

Oh, fark you, you narrow minded bigot.

We all don't have to like everyone and it has nothing to do with being from the South or conservative.

Maybe, must maybe your friend was a jerk to AB.
Or maybe your friend, being so out-and-out about his gayness is just annoying queen, at which point the problem is his not AB's.

The most intolerant people I know all turn out to be 'progressive'; why is that?


Or maybe AB was a dick?
 
2012-11-29 11:47:31 PM  
The writer for this article has the easiest job of all time. Listen to Nerdist podcast, take a quote, write a story.
 
2012-11-30 05:42:01 AM  

Cyno01: Stock sure, but consomme is kind of a pain in the ass, idk, if im just making soup at home, well strained stock is good enough, i dont need to be able to see the bottom of my bowl.


Consomme is when you clarify the stock with egg whites, right? I mean, it was a bit messy but it worked really well, and I did it with 6 liters of base stock (which was how I ended up with 5) in my tiny Oslo flat. If I can do it anyone can, heck, the reason I HAD to do it was that I messed up in the first place and accidentally let the pot boil.
 
2012-11-30 08:48:16 AM  
Bah, I lost any interest in Alton after he went psycho-skinny and preachy about food. Don't pretend to be passionate about food when all you eat are crazy veggie-green tea-bran smoothies.

Now, early Giada...I miss her from her first season or two, when the whole show was shot like soft porn. Zooms at the perfect times, lots of mascarpone licking from the fingers, etc. Either she caught on, or the execs did. Shame.
 
2012-11-30 09:02:32 AM  

Gig103: I love how he fails to explain what about the show "nearly killed" him. It seems like a melodramatic quote to get the attention of someone, so he could test the waters on his potential online venture.


The pace - I recall during the first season of "Iron Chef America" he collapse on set from exhaustion. Plus he gained a lot of weight when he did his road trip shows (not exactly healthy eats).
 
2012-11-30 09:31:26 AM  

Cyno01: Stock sure, but consomme is kind of a pain in the ass, idk, if im just making soup at home, well strained stock is good enough, i dont need to be able to see the bottom of my bowl.


I am not careful when it comes to making my stocks...what I mean by that is I could care less if it boils as opposed to simmers. Yea, my stock is cloudyish, but I do not care. I reduce the shiat out of it anyway and turn it into demi.

My last batch involved 10 lbs of beef bones and 10 lbs of lamb bones. I freeze my demi as cubes in those reusable ice cube trays, pop them out and store them in a ziploc bag. Lasts me about 6-7 months.
 
2012-11-30 10:14:36 AM  
bob_ross


I loved the first 4-5 seasons of that show. Very informative. Then it just seemed to get boring. Really liked the Science aspect though.


Agreed. After that, he started getting to g.d. silly (see adam savage/mythbusters) and the show became stupid.
 
2012-11-30 10:29:27 AM  
LeafyGreens

Turns out Brown's kind of a dick

(long-ish but interesting)

Oh for fark sake get the hell over yourself. He told a non-pc joke. In the mean time, your side of the aisle calls people they disagree with Nazies, pedo's and everything else under the sun.

Oh and your blog sucks. Anyone that puts a gray font on a white background should be sent to git-mo for a lifetime of water boarding.
 
2012-11-30 11:27:19 AM  

LeafyGreens: Turns out Brown's kind of a dick 

(long-ish but interesting)


True, but I think the writer of that essay has the right of it when they say,

What I failed to do here, and what I'll be doing in the future with Alton, is separate the televised persona from the man himself - I had expected Real Life Alton to be as genial and friendly as Television Alton. He's not - he's a good deal more cynical and curmudgeonly.

People who do good things aren't necessarily good in an ethical sense. Nixon was a paranoid, vindictive, law-breaking, election-stealing ass; he also established the EPA and OSHA, as well as gathering a few very impressive coups on the foreign policy front. LBJ was a deceptive, selfish, over-bearing, philandering, manipulative bully and toady; he also despised poverty, hated economic, social, and racial inequality, and always preferred peaceful negotiation and shared prosperity to violence. This is sort of a pretentious thing to write and I sincerely hope you suffer no injury from the severe eye-rolling it will no-doubt elicit, but the great paradox of humanity is how we can be both so wonderful and such massive assholes at the same time. To have an honest opinion of a person, or of humanity in general, we have to acknowledge their virtues and accomplishments alongside their atrocious, juvenile dickery.
 
2012-11-30 11:34:47 AM  

TigerzDad: The Great God Bourdain


Wow did you seriously say that?
 
2012-11-30 11:44:10 AM  

OnlyM3: Oh for fark sake get the hell over yourself. He told a non-pc joke.


Ah yes, PC; the acronym that magically turns irrational hatred and disgust for people different from you into, at best, a virtue or, at worst, a minor social faux pas.

OnlyM3: your side of the aisle calls people they disagree with Nazies, pedo's and everything else under the sun.


First, Nazis; I only correct you because I know you'll be annoyed by it. Second, the Dem Peanut Gallery is hardly the "other side of the aisle" given that, with the exception of Alan Grayson, Lefty firebrands don't tend to get elected, whereas the actual "side of the aisle" for Rightists like yourself tend to say things like "Obama is just like Hitler". You're a hypocrite, and I don't respect you because of that, and neither does anyone else. Third, us leftists spend more time calling you guys the "Party of Rape" than "pedophiles", and this has to do with the fact that your elected official tend to say things like, you know, "rape isn't a big deal" or "rape isn't real" or "rape is god's will". When one of your party planks is "Rape is a natural part of life" and another is "women shouldn't have the right to decide what happens to their own bodies" your party will, rightfully, be labelled as "pro-rape". You aren't going to make that go away by trying to shame us, the people who hate rape, into not pointing it out; you make it go away by no longer defending/justifying/downplaying rape and by accepting the fact that women are just as deserving of personal agency as men.
 
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2012-11-30 12:06:44 PM  

Tom_Slick: I thought Good Eats got old after a while, but he was usually entertaining.

/His guest spot on Mythbusters was very fun to watch.


Yes, one of my favorite MB episodes now.
 
2012-11-30 12:43:37 PM  
Heron

First, Nazis; I only correct you because I know you'll be annoyed by it.
Not at all. Correction of typos doesn't bother me in the least.


Rightists like yourself tend to say things like "Obama is just like Hitler".
Sorry, another swing and a miss actually two misses. First, I'm not on the right of the political spectrum

Second,:
ramparts360.comearthhopenetwork.netwww.history.ucsb.edu
What was it you were saying about "hypocrite"?

your party will, rightfully, be labelled as "pro-rape"

It's "labeled", I only correct you, because you know, you're an idiot.

When one of your party planks is "Rape is a natural part of life"
Care to point that plank out "my" parties web site, or in any documentation of theirs? Tell you what, I'll make it even easier. You assumed I was a republican, lets see you point out that plank on their site or any of their literature. You're a typical lying leftist. You have no facts, so you fabricate bullshiat hoping if you tell it often enough, it will become the truth.

You aren't going to make that go away by trying to shame us, the people who hate rape
Hate rape? Reaaaallly?

Do you mean like democrats that prefer women weak and raped than armed? Di fi, boxer, etc....

Or do you mean democrats that abuse their position of power to boink their employees (something you call rape when "business men" or republicans do it), yet cheer when your political heroes do it?

Or do you mean rapists who have multiple accusers that all tell similar and convincing stories, yet are still lauded by your party?

Or are you talking about the stance Virginia Democrats have taken against a popular state law providing for mandatory sentencing of child rapists.. The bill passed by a large majority. Twenty-one state senators and delegates, all of them Democrats, voted no on the bill. Included among them were Obama surrogates and supporters State Senator Louise Lucas; Delegate Mamye BaCote, a leading member of VA Women for Obama; and Delegate Scott Surovell, a member of the Obama campaign's Truth Team. 

So now that you've failed completely, what lie are you going to try next? The race card? That's your usual fallback when you have nothing else.
 
2012-11-30 02:26:26 PM  

Endive Wombat: Maybe it is because I am much further along in my culinary knowledge than what his show offers...but I have to ask: What's next? If he were to resurrect the show and continue on, what else would he cover?


He never got around to doing an episode on figs.

/have three fig trees in my yard
//so tired of jam
 
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