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(Rochester Democrat and Chronicle)   Anti-tax Republican who promised during her election campaign not to raise taxes plans to charge property owners $5.3 million for snow removal this winter. Her response to critics? "It's not a tax, It's a fee for services." Oh, OK then   (democratandchronicle.com) divider line 34
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2012-11-29 11:03:40 AM  
5 votes:
It's a fee, because the payment required is exactly proportional to the work and effort required to perform the task, in each particular instance.

Oh wait.

Its not.

it's proportional to an accessed property value.

It's a tax.
2012-11-29 10:58:51 AM  
5 votes:
Republicans are in favor of all the regressive ways to get money out of the population. That's why republican states with no income taxes usually have high fees, fines, property taxes, sales taxes and any other scheme they can to get most of their operating budgets out of the poor and middle class.
2012-11-29 10:59:19 AM  
4 votes:

Citrate1007: This is what conservatives really think.


This is literally true. Mort Roomney raised "fees" by millions of dollars while he was governer of MA.
2012-11-29 11:31:42 AM  
3 votes:

AdamK: who the hell spends $400 on lobster?


Fake people who show up on p-shopped receipts.
2012-11-29 11:47:30 AM  
2 votes:

Whodat: Cool. Since I didn't request that particular service I shouldn't have to pay for it.


I bet you'd complain like crazy if they didn't plow the roads, though.
2012-11-29 11:36:19 AM  
2 votes:

CPennypacker: lawboy87: sprawl15: [i.imgur.com image 327x387]

sprawl 15,

Perhaps I'm missing the "joke" but you do know that purported receipt was proven to be phony long ago right? The NY Post, even retracted the story and noted that Michelle Obama wasn't even in NYC that day, much less staying at the Waldorf.

If you think you can get Bollinger for $44 room service at the Waldorf Astoria I have a bridge or two to sell you. They charge more than $20 for a Bagel.


I can't believe that thing got any play at all, it had to be put together by someone who has never dined anywhere there wasn't a special going on.

"Hmmm, what's expensive food? I know lobster! And caviar! I saw that in a movie. Wait...IRANIAN caviar! I'm a farking genius."
2012-11-29 11:13:50 AM  
2 votes:

ghare: impaler: Read my lips, no new fees for services.

Rich people LOVE fee-for-service. It cuts down on having to associate with the poors.


It's also nice and regressive.
2012-11-29 11:12:40 AM  
2 votes:

impaler: Read my lips, no new fees for services.


Rich people LOVE fee-for-service. It cuts down on having to associate with the poors.
2012-11-29 11:12:20 AM  
2 votes:

tricycleracer: Arkanaut: Vlad_the_Inaner: It's a fee, because the payment required is exactly proportional to the work and effort required to perform the task, in each particular instance.

Oh wait.

Its not.

it's proportional to an accessed property value.

It's a tax.

Shhh. Maybe if Obama can convince the Republicans to charge a "social insurance fee" or some bullshiat "instead" of a tax, they'll be able to come to an agreement on this whole fiscal cliff deal.

"Fee" sounds like money that is helping a Job Creator put people to work.

"Tax" sounds like money that is helping a drug using welfare queen pay for her two Cadillacs.


I would also guess that "fee" sounds voluntary, but "tax" is mandatory.
2012-11-29 11:10:45 AM  
2 votes:

Arkanaut: Vlad_the_Inaner: It's a fee, because the payment required is exactly proportional to the work and effort required to perform the task, in each particular instance.

Oh wait.

Its not.

it's proportional to an accessed property value.

It's a tax.

Shhh. Maybe if Obama can convince the Republicans to charge a "social insurance fee" or some bullshiat "instead" of a tax, they'll be able to come to an agreement on this whole fiscal cliff deal.


"Fee" sounds like money that is helping a Job Creator put people to work.

"Tax" sounds like money that is helping a drug using welfare queen pay for her two Cadillacs.
2012-11-29 11:08:26 AM  
2 votes:
Nothing new, they've been at this for years.

"No new taxes! (your fishing license will cost $10,000 dollars though, it's a fee)"

In case anyone has missed it, republicans don't cut spending, which means they have to find money somewhere. So now you get fees, and the shiat eater you just voted in gets to run on not having raised taxes. And you'll vote for them again, because taxes.
2012-11-29 10:51:35 AM  
2 votes:
This is what conservatives really think.
2012-11-29 10:50:49 AM  
2 votes:
The charge will appear on the county tax bill next year as a separate line item and be based on the assessed valuation of property.

Its takes some real bullshiattery not to call these property taxes.
2012-11-29 10:49:27 AM  
2 votes:
Maybe we could charge those lucky few who made millions on the backs of American workers and America's multi-billion dollar infrastructure a few "fees", too.

/naw, just kidding. they "earned" it all by their ubermensch selves.
2012-11-29 12:05:21 PM  
1 votes:

KarmicDisaster: Citrate1007: This is what conservatives really think.

It is true. In Wisconsin Walker wants to make the roads toll roads, because that "isn't a tax", you don't "have" to use the roads, you could walk.


Wisconsin voters elected Walker TWICE now. Those mouthbreathing dipshiats deserve everything they're getting. Fark 'em, maybe they're learn from their mistake and take their voting seriously next time.

see also, my home state of NC. We're getting ready to get teabagged with a vengeance because of biblethumping cousin-humpers in the far western and eastern parts of the state voting in this batch of clowns. Most of those whitetrash idiots are on govt assistance of some sort, and I facepalm every time I hear one of them prattle on about Big Guvment.
2012-11-29 11:56:28 AM  
1 votes:

HeartBurnKid: Ahhh... the Romney method.


You could also call it the Texas method, the Pawlenty method, the Walker method....
2012-11-29 11:45:47 AM  
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: I can't believe that thing got any play at all, it had to be put together by someone who has never dined anywhere there wasn't a special going on.


Consider for a moment just how much 'play' the Teleprompter thing got.

There are tens of millions of people who, apparently, never noticed those little clear rectangle thingies in front of famous people for over 30 years. So no, nothing surprises me about them. Nothing.
2012-11-29 11:41:55 AM  
1 votes:
Not a meme:

www.lossimpsons.net

A meme:

drawception.com
2012-11-29 11:39:54 AM  
1 votes:

Speaker2Animals: monoski: Technically she is correct. My township has all sorts of "fees" that I have no choice to opt in or out of so I tried to declare these as taxes paid. The accountant said, No.

If this woman ever gets re-elected, the voters deserve every stupid fee they have to pay.


really this fits right in with the regular GOP theme of privatize all non-essential govt services. Voters have to be complete morons to think this will save them money.
2012-11-29 11:24:10 AM  
1 votes:

sprawl15: [i.imgur.com image 327x387]


sprawl 15,

Perhaps I'm missing the "joke" but you do know that purported receipt was proven to be phony long ago right? The NY Post, even retracted the story and noted that Michelle Obama wasn't even in NYC that day, much less staying at the Waldorf.
2012-11-29 11:23:24 AM  
1 votes:

Citrate1007: This is what conservatives really think.


It is true. In Wisconsin Walker wants to make the roads toll roads, because that "isn't a tax", you don't "have" to use the roads, you could walk.
2012-11-29 11:22:32 AM  
1 votes:

sprawl15: [i.imgur.com image 327x387]


Not a receipt, either.
2012-11-29 11:22:31 AM  
1 votes:

sprawl15: urbangirl: Isn't this exactly the same thing Rmoney did while guv of massachusetts? Allowed him to later brag about not raising taxes...

Now, with video goodness.


Thanks. Both my post and me, personally, have now been enhanced and improved.
2012-11-29 11:18:29 AM  
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: In case anyone has missed it, republicans don't cut spending, which means they have to find money somewhere. So now you get fees, and the shiat eater you just voted in gets to run on not having raised taxes. And you'll vote for them again, because taxes.


Or realize a Democrat will be elected to clean up the mess, so they'll be able to go nuclear on the "huge deficit tax and spenders," after spending eight years not saying a f*cking thing about their president's deficits.
2012-11-29 11:16:16 AM  
1 votes:

qorkfiend: I would also guess that "fee" sounds voluntary, but "tax" is mandatory.


Kind of like "non-refundable pet deposit".
2012-11-29 11:15:46 AM  
1 votes:
So, calling a mandate a fee and not a new tax is a Republican thing huh?
2012-11-29 11:15:08 AM  
1 votes:
Technically she is correct. My township has all sorts of "fees" that I have no choice to opt in or out of so I tried to declare these as taxes paid. The accountant said, No.
2012-11-29 11:14:11 AM  
1 votes:
Since this "isn't" a property tax, does that mean homeowners won't be able to deduct it from the federal taxes?
2012-11-29 11:11:05 AM  
1 votes:

Superjew: Maybe we could charge those lucky few who made millions on the backs of American workers and America's multi-billion dollar infrastructure a few "fees", too.

/naw, just kidding. they "earned" it all by their ubermensch selves.


What about the people who make millions not on the backs of American workers?
2012-11-29 11:10:36 AM  
1 votes:

Jackson Herring: Citrate1007: This is what conservatives really think.

This is literally true. Mort Roomney raised "fees" by millions of dollars while he was governer of MA.


Tim Pawlenty did it too in order to keep his no taxes pledge when he was Governor of MN. Except his fee's were ruled unconstitutional because they were really taxes. State budget looked great but property taxes went through the roof because the burden for mandatory services was pushed to the municipal levels.
2012-11-29 10:59:34 AM  
1 votes:
Fees are what nourish capitalism. Taxes are what feed socialism. Duh.
2012-11-29 10:58:22 AM  
1 votes:
Didn't the USSC just say you couldn't do this in the ACA ruling?
2012-11-29 10:57:43 AM  
1 votes:
Fortunately for her, as long as she never used the dreaded T word, the teabaggers won't think it's socialism.
2012-11-29 10:57:04 AM  
1 votes:
Actually this is an opportunity to satisfy the High Priest, Grover Norquist. The Republicans in Congress aren't going to renege on their anti-tax pledges, they're going to institute National Service Fees on income, sales, and capital gains.
 
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