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(SFGate)   There's still a thousand people homeless after Sandy; meanwhile FEMA's been paying for NYC hotel rooms that have remained vacant for weeks. Actually putting people into the vacant hotel rooms does not seem to have occurred to anybody   (sfgate.com) divider line 15
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2012-11-29 10:12:50 AM  
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Right. FEMA is the poster-child for misallocation of resources.
Not, say, Iraq with its importing of sand to a desert for a volleyball court, or billions in cash outright unaccounted for, or bribing militants to not blow people up, or any of that shiat.

No no no.
When you mobilize that large a slice of government *for war* it's understood that some things will fall through the cracks and inefficiencies will persist, due in no small part to chaotic communications and non-functioning infrastructure in the place you just blew to shiat.

It's *totally different* when you mobilize people *without guns* into a place with chaotic communication and non-functioning infrastructure that *mother nature* blew to shiat.
In *that* case, any and all inefficiencies are a sign of the moral failure of trying to help those people in the first place.
2012-11-29 09:43:40 AM  
2 votes:
"The city expects FEMA to reimburse it for the hotels"

And I expect my Cheryl Teagues poster to come to life one night and service me in unspeakable ways.

This is the city's screw up, and I seriously doubt FEMA will be paying them a red cent for their poor choices.
2012-11-29 09:37:58 AM  
2 votes:
When conservatives say we're against big government, part of what we're talking about is the inherently abusive tendencies of bureaucracy.

Bureaucrats don't have to show a profit, or be in any other way regulated by reality. They do what it says they're supposed to do, however they interpret it, with oversight only by other bureaucrats. Government picks people who generally cannot have other careers to do these jobs.

I'm not yay-gung-ho about privatization, but private insurance hiring private companies might have done a better job of cost accounting. The Red Cross seems to be doing OK, not great, but better than FEMA as a practical solution.

The last really big storm I went through knocked power out for weeks for eight million people. We never saw any FEMA activity.
2012-11-29 12:19:16 PM  
1 votes:

Rapmaster2000: keypusher: Headso: The Wall Street Journal says ok, bullshiat coming out...

No, actually. WSJ news coverage is as good as it gets. Pick up the paper and read it. You will be amazed.

LOL. No, really. I laughed pretty hard. This isn't 1987 anymore. The WSJ is USAToday for muppets.


Another non-reader who feels compelled to have an opinion about the Journal. What is it with those people? Does it make them feel better about themselves?
2012-11-29 11:40:19 AM  
1 votes:

Headso: tenpoundsofcheese: 5monkeys: I am in ocean county and displaced. Fema gave us temporary housing assistance right away,

Fema was able to give you that housing assistance due to the 53% of the people who pay federal income taxes.
Make sure you thank those evil tax payers when you get a chance.

the biggest thanks you could give me would be to kick tenpoundsofcheese in the nuts...


I have a feeling no woman has been near his nuts in years, and I don't want to break that streak even if it was just to kick em.
2012-11-29 11:37:53 AM  
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: 5monkeys: I am in ocean county and displaced. Fema gave us temporary housing assistance right away,

Fema was able to give you that housing assistance due to the 53% of the people who pay federal income taxes.
Make sure you thank those evil tax payers when you get a chance.


the biggest thanks you could give me would be to kick tenpoundsofcheese in the nuts...
2012-11-29 10:41:45 AM  
1 votes:
So now can we start criticizing Obama's response to Hurricane Sandy? Or is that untouchable b/c he is a dem? Would be nice if the news organizations would spend just as much time covering the problems still existing, rather than pretend everything is back to normal. Here's a few bits of news I found...I am not hearing this on the regular news nor seeing it on the big news sites like CNN, MSNBC, etc. Why is that?

Hurricane Sandy worse than Katrina

FEMA fails to find housing for victims

Katrina on the Hudson
2012-11-29 10:17:52 AM  
1 votes:

sodomizer: When conservatives say we're against big government, part of what we're talking about is the inherently abusive tendencies of bureaucracy.

Bureaucrats don't have to show a profit, or be in any other way regulated by reality. They do what it says they're supposed to do, however they interpret it, with oversight only by other bureaucrats. Government picks people who generally cannot have other careers to do these jobs.

I'm not yay-gung-ho about privatization, but private insurance hiring private companies might have done a better job of cost accounting. The Red Cross seems to be doing OK, not great, but better than FEMA as a practical solution.

The last really big storm I went through knocked power out for weeks for eight million people. We never saw any FEMA activity.


No, privatization is another layer of ineffeciancy beaurocratically created and regulated that feeds on itself and is but a pork barrel. A true consecutive would oppose privatization and demand that politicians do their job and represent the people that elected them rather than the lobbiest that provides the hookers and blow
2012-11-29 10:14:14 AM  
1 votes:
FTFA: "The Department of Homeless Services says some unused rooms are reserved so they are available if more seek shelter."

"IF MORE" In other words, FEMA booked more just in case they needed more.

Imagine that. FEMA doing things "just in case"

/not sure if subby is advocating that FEMA sublet the rooms on a night to night basis. You know like you can rent out your timeshare that you booked. That could save some money, Other than that, if your stuck homeless in NYC, 'seek shelter' to qualify to use spare rooms. 'Seek' is an active verb.
2012-11-29 09:51:39 AM  
1 votes:
FEMA is really just a money machine for the connected? Really? What Government agency isn't
2012-11-29 09:51:17 AM  
1 votes:

sasbazooka: I have some good friends down in Ocean County that were flooded out, and FEMA has taken care of them pretty well. They aren't ALL bad.


Nonsense. FEMA needs to be gotten rid of, immediately!
2012-11-29 09:45:04 AM  
1 votes:

Flragnararch: I think the better question is why is this article from the San Fransisco Chronicle?


WSJ has a paywall
2012-11-29 09:42:51 AM  
1 votes:
I think the better question is why is this article from the San Fransisco Chronicle?
2012-11-29 09:41:56 AM  
1 votes:
The Wall Street Journal says ok, bullshiat coming out...
2012-11-29 09:39:50 AM  
1 votes:
This sounds more like a screw up on the City's behalf than FEMA's to me.
 
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