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(The Daily Beast)   American Red Cross collects $150 million dollars in donations for Sandy victims, but can't seem to find a way to get that money to Sandy victims   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 113
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2012-11-29 09:26:53 AM
That's pretty much the Red Cross way.

/oh look, bonuses!
 
2012-11-29 09:46:16 AM
Obvious tag displaced by Sandy?
 
2012-11-29 09:50:44 AM
You need $150 million to send fat bureaucrats off to "conferences" at five star hotels and resorts where there's plenty of rich food and drink.

That's how you truly help the needy.
 
2012-11-29 09:54:11 AM
But they're trying really really hard, until they figure out a way that money will just sit in our bank account.
 
2012-11-29 10:12:31 AM
I hear they're charging for donuts again.
 
2012-11-29 10:14:36 AM

L.D. Ablo: You need $150 million to send fat bureaucrats off to "conferences" at five star hotels and resorts where there's plenty of rich food and drink.

That's how you truly help the needy.


But that's what we have government for!
 
2012-11-29 12:55:12 PM
Call the Storm Troopers !
 
2012-11-29 12:57:49 PM
But Obama is going to give everyone everything they need!
 
2012-11-29 12:57:50 PM
Sorry, did someone forget that a non-profit is a business like every other business?
 
2012-11-29 12:58:51 PM
I'll get the money to the victims. Send me the money.

Can one of you tell the red cross they can send the money to me, please?
 
2012-11-29 12:59:37 PM
Wow... there is a whole lot of stupid in this thread....

let's see... Storm is coming, what do we do? do we send aid to people right now and pay for that with funds we have right now? Well, that is how the Red Cross usually does business.

After the storm hits, people send money.Great! But the RC already paid for the aid they sent to Sandy victims. What do they do?

use the cash to pay for the next emergency you farking retards!
 
2012-11-29 01:01:43 PM

maddogdelta: Wow... there is a whole lot of stupid in this thread....

let's see... Storm is coming, what do we do? do we send aid to people right now and pay for that with funds we have right now? Well, that is how the Red Cross usually does business.

After the storm hits, people send money.Great! But the RC already paid for the aid they sent to Sandy victims. What do they do?

use the cash to pay for the next emergency you farking retards!



Except the article clearly states that while in the disaster area he did not see the original expenditure.
 
2012-11-29 01:01:49 PM
$ 150,000,000 and I'm GETTING MUTHERFARKING GREEN BEANS??!?!?!
/MF-ERS better be serving LOBSTERS!!!
 
2012-11-29 01:01:58 PM
That's the way the Red Cross operates. The key is preparedness: Have all the necessary equipment and supplies ready in advance of the disaster. Use the money from the previous disaster relief fund-raisers for this event and use the money gathered by Sandy fund-raisers for the next (and future) events.

//Wonders how many times he's read this article in some format or another.
 
2012-11-29 01:03:28 PM

maddogdelta: Wow... there is a whole lot of stupid in this thread....

let's see... Storm is coming, what do we do? do we send aid to people right now and pay for that with funds we have right now? Well, that is how the Red Cross usually does business.

After the storm hits, people send money.Great! But the RC already paid for the aid they sent to Sandy victims. What do they do?

use the cash to pay for the next emergency you farking retards!


Let me guess, you didn't read the article?
 
2012-11-29 01:04:04 PM
I will never, ever, EVER, give one red cent to an organized charity.

I will give my last dollar to someone I know is in need.
 
2012-11-29 01:04:11 PM
It's easy, you load some expired cans of mushroom soup on a bus and drive to the disaster.
 
2012-11-29 01:05:11 PM
Send it to Gore and invest it in his green mutual funds and save us from future changes in the weather.
 
2012-11-29 01:05:57 PM
From what I gather in TFA no one is questioning how donations to the Red Cross work. They are questioning what exactly they are doing on the ground.

I'm sure the Red Cross has a large presence in the area but it is a legitimate question to ask if you're counting on these organizations to provide relief.
 
2012-11-29 01:07:17 PM
This is why you don't donate money to these relief groups... instead you just go wherever the disaster is right after it happens and dive around looking for people you can help.

Trust me... it's the best way. They only ask that people stay away to maintain their monopoly on the relief industry.
 
2012-11-29 01:08:03 PM
Charity organization pockets donation money. News at 11

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2012-11-29 01:09:31 PM
After every major disaster, it's same thing. Send $10 to 90blahblahblah...then the money never gets to the victims in a timely manner (if at all).

It happened during 9/11, the Indian Ocean tsunami, Hurricane Katrina, the Fukushima earthquake/tsunami...what made anyone think Superstorm Sandy would be any different?

Yes, I know the logistics of getting aid into a disaster area is somewhat complicated...but c'mon, it's the same damn gong show every time!
 
2012-11-29 01:10:39 PM
Just checked. I can fit at least 2.3 million in my SUV. I'd be glad to help.
 
2012-11-29 01:12:16 PM

FarkinHostile: I will never, ever, EVER, give one red cent to an organized charity.

I will give my last dollar to someone I know is in need.


The Smeggy Fund to disorganize slut clothing will accept your money, spread slutty clothing all over the floor, backs of chairs, ceiling fans, etc
 
2012-11-29 01:13:58 PM

FarkinHostile: I will never, ever, EVER, give one red cent to an organized charity.

I will give my last dollar to someone I know is in need.


Ages ago I remember my ol' man telling me: "Most charities have some guy at the top making $20,000 a year and sitting in a plush office. You'd be better off giving to a local charity or church that sponsors a clinic or something like that."

That was back when $20k was a pretty good paycheck - adjust for inflation, and the advice is still good.

Add to this list: charities with a political axe to grind. I quit volunteering for a national charity after my third or fourth lecture on how a certain political viewpoint was evil. Honestly, if I wanted lectures I'd visit the politics tab.
 
2012-11-29 01:13:59 PM

occamswrist: Let me guess, you didn't read the article?


Let me guess. Anecdotal evidence from one guy on the ground means the Red Cross didn't do anything because a blah guy is in the white house and SOSHALUZM!
 
2012-11-29 01:14:08 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com

seems appropriate...
 
2012-11-29 01:14:13 PM
i1207.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-29 01:14:40 PM
That barely covers their executives pay... come on people!... donate some more.
 
2012-11-29 01:15:20 PM
Summary of the article: "I didn't personally see the Red Cross while I was out being (if I do say so myself) so super, but humbly, awesome. Therefore, because I have some unsourced comments about why I didn't personally see them, they did nearly nothing at all."

Certainly, this is journalism at its finest.
 
2012-11-29 01:16:26 PM

maddogdelta: occamswrist: Let me guess, you didn't read the article?

Let me guess. Anecdotal evidence from one guy on the ground means the Red Cross didn't do anything because a blah guy is in the white house and SOSHALUZM!


You caught me Sherlock.
 
2012-11-29 01:17:49 PM
Apparently many contributors didn't get the memo where it states over 90% of all monies collected are used to support the infrastructure of Red Cross offices keeping track of the things the other Red Cross offices do in a whirling dervish of paper pushing and office parties.
 
2012-11-29 01:18:29 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Summary of the article: "I didn't personally see the Red Cross while I was out being (if I do say so myself) so super, but humbly, awesome. Therefore, because I have some unsourced comments about why I didn't personally see them, they did nearly nothing at all."

Certainly, this is journalism at its finest.


This; also: Great to see the "I GOT MINE, FARK YOU!" posters in this thread.
 
2012-11-29 01:22:47 PM
It's only $150,000,000.00, I don't think they could have hired a couple of helicopters and pilots to bring in relief supplies with that paltry sum.
 
2012-11-29 01:24:57 PM
150 million doesn't go a long way when the quadrant is home to almost that many people... Red Cross blew their rep after 9/11 and Katrina. Saw em both firsthand...

I wouldn't mind starting a charity. And yes, I'd pull a fat salary.
 
2012-11-29 01:30:51 PM
Iceberg659
I'm sure the Red Cross has a large presence in the area

What makes you so sure?
 
2012-11-29 01:31:10 PM
I guess these places are empty and no food or clothing are available

Sandy Feeding locations
 
2012-11-29 01:33:11 PM
Press release: "The Red Cross has distributed more than 300,000 relief items to victims..."

Like with Sears "101 piece" tool sets, that's 1000 boxes of Q-tips.
 
2012-11-29 01:34:57 PM

themasterdebater: Sorry, did someone forget that a non-profit is a business like every other business?



Actually, the non-profits tend to be much more profitable.
 
2012-11-29 01:35:01 PM
aofg.blogs.com
 
2012-11-29 01:40:56 PM

Amos Quito: themasterdebater: Sorry, did someone forget that a non-profit is a business like every other business?


Actually, the non-profits tend to be much more profitable.


Ab-so-farkin'-lutely.

Don't believe us? Go to your local non-profit, especially something like a state-supported school. Pull their IRS Form 990. Check out the salaries for the folks at the top.
 
2012-11-29 01:42:16 PM
Charity, the GOP's idea of a social net. What could possibly go wrong?
 
2012-11-29 01:48:02 PM
floor of my house was destroyed in Sandy (Long Beach NY)

Saw the Red Cross once, who asked if I needed food (which the Natl Guard was distributing). Not blankets or anything like that.

The Natl Guard, however, has been Johnny-on-the-spot during the whole ordeal, starting the day after the storm.

DO NOT GIVE TO RED CROSS.
 
2012-11-29 01:48:24 PM
There are some non-profit charities that only take 10% percent of donations for administrative costs. The problem is they are not in the United States.

Tzu Chi is an awesome example.
 
2012-11-29 01:48:27 PM

imtheonlylp: Just checked. I can fit at least 2.3 million in my SUV. I'd be glad to help.


why are u so eager to help?
 
2012-11-29 01:50:57 PM
Red Cross press release archive, if anyone's interested in their side of the story.
 
2012-11-29 01:56:44 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Red Cross press release archive, if anyone's interested in their side of the story.


Wow, they picked the worst font on the internet for the "Public Still Plans to Give to Charities During the Holidays" section... ugh.

Also, press releases don't really count as a side to a story.
 
2012-11-29 02:04:49 PM

maddogdelta: Wow... there is a whole lot of stupid in this thread....

let's see... Storm is coming, what do we do? do we send aid to people right now and pay for that with funds we have right now? Well, that is how the Red Cross usually does business.

After the storm hits, people send money.Great! But the RC already paid for the aid they sent to Sandy victims. What do they do?

use the cash to pay for the next emergency you farking retards!


RTFA sometime, jackass. The Red Cross cannot be found in the Sandy disaster area, according to boots-on-the-ground responders ranging from city government to volunteers from other charities.

They aren't spending the aid sent specifically for Sandy, and despite your ignorance, that money is legally raised for Sandy relief, and can only be spent for Sandy relief - they lost a court case over their previous fraudulent fundraising on that issue.

What is more, they aren't spending any previously raised money, either. You claim they are spending money they already had in the bank, TFA has multiple witnesses WHO ARE ACTUALLY THERE saying they aren't spending anything at all.

Just collecting.

And letting other organizations do the real work. Which is consistent with what emergency volunteers have reported in the past, from several disaster sites.

Have your mommy read you the article. It's clearly not one of your skills.
 
2012-11-29 02:07:13 PM

pjbreeze: There are some non-profit charities that only take 10% percent of donations for administrative costs. The problem is they are not in the United States.


There are many charities that take 10% or less for admin fees. Brothers Brother takes less than 0.5% - over an order of magnitude better than your example.
 
2012-11-29 02:08:10 PM
Do your research, folks. My money goes to the Salvation Army.
 
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