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(Talking Points Memo)   Rep. Lamar Smith (R-eally likes music industry), who came up with SOPA, to head science committee. At least he believes in the legitimate rape of the music industry   (idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 40
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2012-11-29 09:06:15 AM
Representative Lamar Smith is a Christian Scientist.

FTWiki:
Christian Science is a system of religious thought and practice developed by Mary Baker Eddy based on her study of the Bible and explained in her work Science and Health With Key to the Scriptures. In it, Eddy describes the teachings of Jesus as a complete and coherent divine science.[1]:275,473-474 Its adherents may be, but are not required to be, members of the main church, The First Church of Christ, Scientist, a branch church, or both. Its central texts are the Bible and Science and Health.
The major teachings of Christian Science include the belief that spiritual reality is the only reality and all else is illusion or "error."[2] In contrast to conventional Christian theology, Christian Science rejects both the common Christian views of the atonement and the concept of Hell as a place of eternal punishment.
Christian Scientists believe that sickness and disease are the result of fear, ignorance, or sin, and should be healed through prayer or introspection. Combined with a belief that the use of medicine is incompatible with Christian Science healing methods, this has led to outbreaks of preventable disease and a number of deaths.[3] Its claim that sickness can be healed through prayer rather than medicine, its rejection of science as illusory, and its attempts to present itself as science make Christian Science a pseudoscience, in the view of philosopher John R. Searle. [4]

This is not who I want making setting the nation's priorities, science-wise.
 
2012-11-29 09:11:44 AM
*sigh*
 
2012-11-29 09:14:29 AM
Hey now, christian science has fully fleshed out theories on everything that actual science does!

It's just, those theories can be aptly summed up as "because Jesus".
 
2012-11-29 09:40:14 AM
talkingpointsmemo.com

"I'm not saying it was God, but..."
 
2012-11-29 09:46:08 AM
"And with regards to 'what qualifies him to serve as Chairman on Science?' - he is the most senior member currently on the Committee that has not already served as Chairman," Hicks told TPM. "He's been on the Science Committee for 26 years. This is all we're saying at this time."

so this is really how we're going to run our government. a christian scientist with no scientific background or training is going to have a very important role in determining the scientific progress of this nation. all because he's been in office long enough to gain control of a key assignment.

no wonder we're sliding backwards into decay. maybe the doomsday preppers have a point. could be they're doing the right things for all the wrong reasons.
 
2012-11-29 10:00:23 AM

Weaver95: a christian scientist with no scientific background or training is going to have a very important role in determining the scientific progress of this nation.


Not just no background or training. That would be an improvement. He's indoctrinated in an outright anti-scientific sect of Christianity. That's like negative scientific training. He has a worse understanding of science than somebody who has never been taught anything about science.
 
2012-11-29 10:14:19 AM

incendi: Weaver95: a christian scientist with no scientific background or training is going to have a very important role in determining the scientific progress of this nation.

Not just no background or training. That would be an improvement. He's indoctrinated in an outright anti-scientific sect of Christianity. That's like negative scientific training. He has a worse understanding of science than somebody who has never been taught anything about science.


And this is the sort of person we let dictate the direction of scientific development in this country...?
 
2012-11-29 10:15:05 AM

incendi: Representative Lamar Smith is a Christian Scientist.

FTWiki:
Christian Science is a system of religious thought and practice developed by Mary Baker Eddy based on her study of the Bible and explained in her work Science and Health With Key to the Scriptures. In it, Eddy describes the teachings of Jesus as a complete and coherent divine science.[1]:275,473-474 Its adherents may be, but are not required to be, members of the main church, The First Church of Christ, Scientist, a branch church, or both. Its central texts are the Bible and Science and Health.
The major teachings of Christian Science include the belief that spiritual reality is the only reality and all else is illusion or "error."[2] In contrast to conventional Christian theology, Christian Science rejects both the common Christian views of the atonement and the concept of Hell as a place of eternal punishment.
Christian Scientists believe that sickness and disease are the result of fear, ignorance, or sin, and should be healed through prayer or introspection. Combined with a belief that the use of medicine is incompatible with Christian Science healing methods, this has led to outbreaks of preventable disease and a number of deaths.[3] Its claim that sickness can be healed through prayer rather than medicine, its rejection of science as illusory, and its attempts to present itself as science make Christian Science a pseudoscience, in the view of philosopher John R. Searle. [4]

This is not who I want making setting the nation's priorities, science-wise.


I fail to understand how the headline isn't about Smith being a crazy anti-science Christian rather than being the author of SOPA.
 
2012-11-29 10:53:08 AM
So, when is he going to introduce a bill making Evolution illegal. Not just teaching it, but making the whole thing illegal. You know he wants to.
 
2012-11-29 12:39:30 PM
rape of or by the music industry, there subs?
 
2012-11-29 12:39:31 PM
I read this headline and my brain saw "Lamar Alexander" rather than Lamar Smith and I thought, huh, that's not so terrible... but now all I can think of is

www.tampabay.com
 
2012-11-29 12:40:31 PM
This is a prime example of the statement "Republicans don't believe that government can do anything right and get elected to prove it."
 
2012-11-29 12:41:58 PM
Goddammit. This is why we can't have nice things.
 
2012-11-29 12:42:41 PM
Republicans are hipsters when it comes to committee appointments......farking ironic.
 
2012-11-29 12:49:04 PM
This is what you get when you think *your* Republican representative isn't part of the problem. They get a majority, they assign seats however they like, and they have a guy who doesn't believe in tectonic plates heading the Energy Committee, a guy who doesn't believe in Biochemistry heading the science committee, and a raft of other idiots making it to positions they have no business commenting on, let alone leading the nation on. Even if you think your moderate Republican is one of the good ones, your vote gives power to idiots like this.
 
2012-11-29 12:50:12 PM

firefly212: This is what you get when you think *your* Republican representative isn't part of the problem. They get a majority, they assign seats however they like, and they have a guy who doesn't believe in tectonic plates heading the Energy Committee, a guy who doesn't believe in Biochemistry heading the science committee, and a raft of other idiots making it to positions they have no business commenting on, let alone leading the nation on. Even if you think your moderate Republican is one of the good ones, your vote gives power to idiots like this.


if your moderate Republican representative is voting for guys like this to positions like this, he's probably not as moderate as you think.
 
2012-11-29 12:52:50 PM
Are people put on the congressional science committee out of pity? There seem to be a lot of anti-science idiots or just plain idiots on it.
 
2012-11-29 12:53:07 PM
Why do we keep putting these Luddites in charge of our Science Committee? Really?

This makes about as much sense as outsourcing our IT Dept out to the Amish!
 
2012-11-29 12:56:06 PM

WizardofToast: Are people put on the congressional science committee out of pity? There seem to be a lot of anti-science idiots or just plain idiots on it.


Makes you wonder what sort of budget they have? Probably not much if they keep dumping the shills down there but it could be the opposite, if you are willing to make of ass of yourself for partisan gain here a giant "science" checkbook and you can spend as you see fit.
 
2012-11-29 12:58:38 PM
Hey, the guy who thought the internet is a series of tubes did a bang up job.

/probably not
 
2012-11-29 12:59:33 PM

Heraclitus: Why do we keep putting these Luddites in charge of our Science Committee? Really?

This makes about as much sense as outsourcing our IT Dept out to the Amish!


What a great proposal for a "faith-based initiative"! We could also have a buddhist army, a hindi beef inspection agency (working alongside the Jews in pork,) a rastafarian DEA, and islamic women's hairdressers.
Oh, and Atheist office holders.

/last one's a bit far-fetched
 
2012-11-29 12:59:40 PM

skullkrusher: firefly212: This is what you get when you think *your* Republican representative isn't part of the problem. They get a majority, they assign seats however they like, and they have a guy who doesn't believe in tectonic plates heading the Energy Committee, a guy who doesn't believe in Biochemistry heading the science committee, and a raft of other idiots making it to positions they have no business commenting on, let alone leading the nation on. Even if you think your moderate Republican is one of the good ones, your vote gives power to idiots like this.

if your moderate Republican representative is voting for guys like this to positions like this, he's probably not as moderate as you think.


Well, at this point, there are very, very few "moderate" Republicans left it the House. They tend to get primaried out by crazy derpa derpa dos, who then either win or lose in the general election depending on how moderate the district is.
 
2012-11-29 01:06:11 PM

incendi: Representative Lamar Smith is a Christian Scientist.

FTWiki:
Christian Science is a system of religious thought and practice developed by Mary Baker Eddy based on her study of the Bible and explained in her work Science and Health With Key to the Scriptures. In it, Eddy describes the teachings of Jesus as a complete and coherent divine science.[1]:275,473-474 Its adherents may be, but are not required to be, members of the main church, The First Church of Christ, Scientist, a branch church, or both. Its central texts are the Bible and Science and Health.
The major teachings of Christian Science include the belief that spiritual reality is the only reality and all else is illusion or "error."[2] In contrast to conventional Christian theology, Christian Science rejects both the common Christian views of the atonement and the concept of Hell as a place of eternal punishment.
Christian Scientists believe that sickness and disease are the result of fear, ignorance, or sin, and should be healed through prayer or introspection. Combined with a belief that the use of medicine is incompatible with Christian Science healing methods, this has led to outbreaks of preventable disease and a number of deaths.[3] Its claim that sickness can be healed through prayer rather than medicine, its rejection of science as illusory, and its attempts to present itself as science make Christian Science a pseudoscience, in the view of philosopher John R. Searle. [4]

This is not who I want making setting the nation's priorities, science-wise.


Is this a thing with the GOP congress? Is it a game for them to assign the worst possible people to head committees?
 
2012-11-29 01:06:47 PM

skullkrusher: firefly212: This is what you get when you think *your* Republican representative isn't part of the problem. They get a majority, they assign seats however they like, and they have a guy who doesn't believe in tectonic plates heading the Energy Committee, a guy who doesn't believe in Biochemistry heading the science committee, and a raft of other idiots making it to positions they have no business commenting on, let alone leading the nation on. Even if you think your moderate Republican is one of the good ones, your vote gives power to idiots like this.

if your moderate Republican representative is voting for guys like this to positions like this, he's probably not as moderate as you think.


Committee seats are assigned by leadership, not by the general body. And if your congresscritter is on the House Republican Steering Committee, they're probably not all that moderate.

WizardofToast: Are people put on the congressional science committee out of pity? There seem to be a lot of anti-science idiots or just plain idiots on it.


Actually, yes. It's not considered a particularly prestigious or powerful committee (both of which affect how many fundraising dollars you can get), so it winds up with a lot of nuts that the leadership doesn't want in more influential roles. Chairmanships are prestigious on any committee though, so the chairs of less well regarded committees are still people the leadership likes and want to give power.
 
2012-11-29 01:07:08 PM
Boehner, you dick.
 
2012-11-29 01:10:27 PM

bdMurray: a rastafarian DEA


i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-29 01:11:37 PM

TheLopper: Hey, the guy who thought the internet is a series of tubes did a bang up job.

/probably not


Ted Stevens, who was decomposing in the Senate for decades. He was first elected to the senate in 1968, so by the time he lost re-election in 2008, he was just ridiculously out of touch with modern technology. And for the 109th Congress, he was chair of the Senate Commerce and Science Committee. Pretty moderate in many areas though, especially by current Republican standards.
 
2012-11-29 01:16:17 PM

cptjeff: Committee seats are assigned by leadership, not by the general body. And if your congresscritter is on the House Republican Steering Committee, they're probably not all that moderate.


I live in NYC. We don't have any House Republicans
 
2012-11-29 01:26:06 PM

skullkrusher: cptjeff: Committee seats are assigned by leadership, not by the general body. And if your congresscritter is on the House Republican Steering Committee, they're probably not all that moderate.

I live in NYC. We don't have any House Republicans


Yeah, you do. Michael Grimm, from Staten Island and a little bit of Brooklyn. And until the new Congress, Bob Turner the zionist nut who somehow won Anthony Weiner's seat.
 
2012-11-29 01:38:29 PM
Can we get an actual scientist to lead the science community?.
 
2012-11-29 02:14:22 PM

cptjeff: skullkrusher: cptjeff: Committee seats are assigned by leadership, not by the general body. And if your congresscritter is on the House Republican Steering Committee, they're probably not all that moderate.

I live in NYC. We don't have any House Republicans

Yeah, you do. Michael Grimm, from Staten Island and a little bit of Brooklyn. And until the new Congress, Bob Turner the zionist nut who somehow won Anthony Weiner's seat.


I said NYC. Not the hinterlands. Thar be dragons.
 
2012-11-29 02:51:17 PM
Didn't this guy also claim once that we couldn't run out of fossil fuels because God would just give us more?
 
2012-11-29 02:57:18 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Didn't this guy also claim once that we couldn't run out of fossil fuels because God would just give us more?


Yep, he's the GOP's "Science Guy"
 
2012-11-29 03:29:30 PM
At what point does this kind of bullshiat cross the line into treason? It sure seems like these kinds of appointments are deliberate attempts to cripple the US to me. While we can't control who gets elected to the house, it seems like there should be some mechanism to challenge blatantly stupid committee appointments.
 
2012-11-29 04:04:19 PM

CygnusDarius: Can we get an actual scientist to lead the science community?.


Well, we'd have to elect one first. So, probably not.
 
2012-11-29 05:19:18 PM
I know how to protect NASA guys. All it requires is someone whose good at photoshop.

"Mr. Representative we have shocking news. We have images of Martians, and they're constructing PAGAN TEMPLES! Quickly, we must get to Mars and spread the good word of Jesus Christ to them!"

Fully funded, book it, done.
 
2012-11-29 08:40:31 PM

shinji3i: I know how to protect NASA guys. All it requires is someone whose good at photoshop.

"Mr. Representative we have shocking news. We have images of Martians, and they're constructing PAGAN TEMPLES! Quickly, we must get to Mars and spread the good word of Jesus Christ to them!"

Fully funded, book it, done.


softsupplier.com

The Emperor Protects!
 
2012-11-29 10:33:36 PM

MacWizard: CygnusDarius: Can we get an actual scientist to lead the science community?.

Well, we'd have to elect one first. So, probably not.


Rush Holt, NJ

Sorry, wrong party.
 
2012-11-29 11:57:57 PM
Our country is going to shiat
 
2012-12-01 12:12:48 AM

Gough: MacWizard: CygnusDarius: Can we get an actual scientist to lead the science community?.

Well, we'd have to elect one first. So, probably not.

Rush Holt, NJ

Sorry, wrong party.


There's another Physicist from Illinois (also a Democrat). Louise Slaughter has a bachelor's in microbiology, obviously also a dem. Not counting the medical doctors and engineers - for obvious reasons. The fact sheet also says there's a chemist, but the last chemist I can find was a democrat voted out of office in 2008.

So I guess democrats have the monopoly on elected scientists. Whoever could've guessed that?
 
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