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2012-11-29 09:09:12 AM
First contact should be number one on the list. It was the second best movie in the franchise. According to polls.

Plus, the Voyager story when they traveled back to 1996 and earth should be on this list. That was other funniest episode of all Voyager ones
 
2012-11-29 09:10:00 AM

cman: First contact should be number one on the list. It was the second best movie in the franchise, according to polls.

Plus, the Voyager story when they traveled back to 1996 and earth should be on this list. That was other funniest episode of all Voyager ones


God damn autocorrect. Fixt
 
2012-11-29 09:13:23 AM
Top 10 Star Trek time travel stories

Is this story a re-cap of Enterprise, Season 2?
 
2012-11-29 09:13:38 AM
Yesterday's Enterprise feels like it's too low on the list, but the other choices are better.

And I was always a bit disappointed with the end of Cause and Effect because we never got to see Captain Frasier get the news about what had happened.
 
2012-11-29 09:20:55 AM
I'm not sure if Children of Time counts as a time travel episode, but if it does it should be on this list.
 
2012-11-29 09:21:19 AM
1. The City on the Edge of Forever

Yep, they got #1 right. The best episode of TOS. Saw it back when TOS was the only series.
 
2012-11-29 09:41:42 AM

cman: First contact should be number one on the list.


Do you have brain damage?

cman: Plus, the Voyager story when they traveled back to 1996 and earth should be on this list


Oh, you do. Sorry I asked.

I'd be willing to rip First Contact off the list entirely, and plop that Voyager turd on the bottom of the list. I don't even really remember that Voyager episode, but I can predict that it had some unfunny "funny" moments, was resolved by a gigantic reset button, and was better than the non-sensical piece of crap that was First Contact which gave us the dullest incarnation of the Borg yet.
 
2012-11-29 09:44:00 AM

cman: Plus, the Voyager story when they traveled back to 1996 and earth should be on this list. That was other funniest episode of all Voyager ones


T'pol in a little blue sundress, that alone should get it on the list.

And the velcro story line was funny
 
2012-11-29 10:02:18 AM

cman: Plus, the Voyager story when they traveled back to 1996 and earth should be on this list. That was other funniest episode of all Voyager ones


Hottie Sarah Silverman ftw.
 
2012-11-29 10:18:12 AM
No. There are no "top ten" time travel stories.

Time travel is the worst possible trot they ever used in that franchise. There are maybe TWO good uses in the whole history of the franchise. The Bill and Ted writers used time travel more interestingly and generally better than the Star Trek writers.
 
2012-11-29 10:19:45 AM
Both of the DS9 Episodes on the list are some of the finest Trek in the history of the franchise. When I watched Trial and Tribble-ations back in the first run days I fell in love with ToS all over again, bought it on DVD for an absurd amount of money as I recall.
 
2012-11-29 10:21:49 AM

cman: Plus, the Voyager story when they traveled back to 1996 and earth should be on this list.


this should be on the list if only for the hotness of Sarah Silverman.

What about the DS9 episode where Sisko goes back to the time of the "Bell Riots" and ends up being identified as Bell in the history books?
 
2012-11-29 10:22:31 AM
oh, and they forgot Time's Arrow.
 
2012-11-29 10:26:57 AM
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I don't like this list...

Meow
 
2012-11-29 10:33:09 AM
So in First Contact, if the Borg have time travel technology, why did they only use it once?
 
2012-11-29 10:35:16 AM

Mugato: So in First Contact, if the Borg have time travel technology, why did they only use it once?


Because they lost a cube, a sphere, and a queen in the process?

I would chalk that up under "Lets not do that again"
 
2012-11-29 10:37:47 AM

Shadow Blasko: Mugato: So in First Contact, if the Borg have time travel technology, why did they only use it once?

Because they lost a cube, a sphere, and a queen in the process?

I would chalk that up under "Lets not do that again"


Yeah but they proved that there as many Borg Queens as there are Datas.
 
2012-11-29 10:43:36 AM

Mugato: Shadow Blasko: Mugato: So in First Contact, if the Borg have time travel technology, why did they only use it once?

Because they lost a cube, a sphere, and a queen in the process?

I would chalk that up under "Lets not do that again"

Yeah but they proved that there as many Borg Queens as there are Datas.


Also true, but by 2378 the Borg have stabilized the transwarp hub and now have access to all four quadrants. Earth, and humans for that matter, are no longer a primary threat, or needed resource, so why bother with them?
 
2012-11-29 10:44:11 AM
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2012-11-29 10:50:21 AM
So.. yeah.


Btw, Voy:Endgame should be on this list. If only because you get good "more realistic" interaction between future and past person.
 
2012-11-29 10:51:47 AM

Mugato: Yeah but they proved that there as many Borg Queens as there are Datas.


Exactly and from everything we learned from their numbers 2 ships and a queen is nothing.
 
2012-11-29 10:53:35 AM

Shadow Blasko: So.. yeah.


Btw, Voy:Endgame should be on this list. If only because you get good "more realistic" interaction between future and past person.


Feh.

Granny Janeway didn't once teach her middle-aged self the virtues of sweet, sweet self-love.
 
2012-11-29 10:58:35 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Mugato: Yeah but they proved that there as many Borg Queens as there are Datas.

Exactly and from everything we learned from their numbers 2 ships and a queen is nothing.


If they learned *anything* the first thing they should have done was kill Picard when they got aboard Enterprise-E

They seem to be able to beat the hell out of Starfleet at will, except that damned Enterprise.

What makes the Big E different? Why.. It must be Locutus. So kill him, and we pwn all of humanity.

Meh. They ruined the Borg when they introduced the queen anyway.
 
2012-11-29 10:59:30 AM
The Tribble DS9 episode was great, especially considering that it was a lot harder to composite shots from the new and original show footage back then. And Dax in a red shirt uniform.

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2012-11-29 11:00:42 AM

Mugato: The Tribble DS9 episode was great, especially considering that it was a lot harder to composite shots from the new and original show footage back then. And Dax in a red shirt uniform.

[sparklynnrocks.files.wordpress.com image 500x375]


"And women wore less"
"I think I am going to like history"

And her fangirl squee at Spock was great.
 
2012-11-29 11:02:19 AM

Shadow Blasko: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Mugato: Yeah but they proved that there as many Borg Queens as there are Datas.

Exactly and from everything we learned from their numbers 2 ships and a queen is nothing.

If they learned *anything* the first thing they should have done was kill Picard when they got aboard Enterprise-E

They seem to be able to beat the hell out of Starfleet at will, except that damned Enterprise.

What makes the Big E different? Why.. It must be Locutus. So kill him, and we pwn all of humanity.

Meh. They ruined the Borg when they introduced the queen anyway.


No, they ruined the Borg when they introduced Hugh, and Picard was talked out of destroying the Borg because Geordi introduced him to Mary Sue of Borg.

Everything after that was just piling the shiat higher.
 
2012-11-29 11:02:34 AM

Mugato: The Tribble DS9 episode was great, especially considering that it was a lot harder to composite shots from the new and original show footage back then. And Dax in a red shirt uniform.

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That episode was too damn nostalgic for my tastes. It only a huge lovefest of TOS. The concept was awesome, but the execution left something to be desired.
 
2012-11-29 11:07:45 AM

FirstNationalBastard: No, they ruined the Borg when they introduced Hugh, and Picard was talked out of destroying the Borg because Geordi introduced him to Mary Sue of Borg.


Oooo... Solid disagreement here.

I think Hugh made the Borg even more terrifying, when it introduced you to the concept that the people who are assimilated are still in those bodies. Somewhere... buried under layers of torture and forced protocols.

Hugh is the abortion debate of ST TNG. Seriously.

Is it ethical to kill your enemy without mercy because they may be able to be saved? Is it an act of mercy to free them from the hellish prison of their assimilated existence?
 
2012-11-29 11:09:27 AM

FirstNationalBastard: No, they ruined the Borg when they introduced Hugh, and Picard was talked out of destroying the Borg because Geordi introduced him to Mary Sue of Borg.


Picard should have been court martialed and thrown out of starfleet for farking that up.

cman: That episode was too damn nostalgic for my tastes. It only a huge lovefest of TOS. The concept was awesome, but the execution left something to be desired.


Well it was the 30th anniversary episode, so it was nostalgic and all tongue in cheek.
 
2012-11-29 11:17:42 AM

Mugato: Picard should have been court martialed and thrown out of starfleet for farking that up.


if we thought hard enough, we can come up with court martial offenses for pretty much everyone in the main cast who was a member of Starfleet.
 
2012-11-29 11:20:10 AM

Shadow Blasko: FirstNationalBastard: No, they ruined the Borg when they introduced Hugh, and Picard was talked out of destroying the Borg because Geordi introduced him to Mary Sue of Borg.

Oooo... Solid disagreement here.

I think Hugh made the Borg even more terrifying, when it introduced you to the concept that the people who are assimilated are still in those bodies. Somewhere... buried under layers of torture and forced protocols.

Hugh is the abortion debate of ST TNG. Seriously.

Is it ethical to kill your enemy without mercy because they may be able to be saved? Is it an act of mercy to free them from the hellish prison of their assimilated existence?


I waffled on saying Hugh.

However, we can all agree that Descent, straddling seasons 6 and 7, where Lore took over part of the Borg, was definitely the beginning of the bad times for The Borg, right?



Mugato: FirstNationalBastard: No, they ruined the Borg when they introduced Hugh, and Picard was talked out of destroying the Borg because Geordi introduced him to Mary Sue of Borg.

Picard should have been court martialed and thrown out of starfleet for farking that up.



If Picard were leading the charge in the Dominion War, we would have all been speaking Founderese within a month.

The Hugh incident showed Picard didn't have the stones to live with it.

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2012-11-29 11:23:55 AM

FirstNationalBastard: If Picard were leading the charge in the Dominion War, we would have all been speaking Founderese within a month.

The Hugh incident showed Picard didn't have the stones to live with it.


Maybe that is the secret of the Federations success. Having the right people in the right job at the right time.
 
2012-11-29 11:26:16 AM

FirstNationalBastard: If Picard were leading the charge in the Dominion War, we would have all been speaking Founderese within a month.


Depends on which Picard shows up. Ahab Picard or Boutros Boutros-Ghali Picard.
 
2012-11-29 11:28:57 AM

Shadow Blasko: FirstNationalBastard: If Picard were leading the charge in the Dominion War, we would have all been speaking Founderese within a month.

Depends on which Picard shows up. Ahab Picard or Boutros Boutros-Ghali Picard.


Ahab Picard only shows up when the Borg are involved and don't lead with a cuddly representative.
 
2012-11-29 11:29:01 AM

Shadow Blasko: FirstNationalBastard: If Picard were leading the charge in the Dominion War, we would have all been speaking Founderese within a month.

Depends on which Picard shows up. Ahab Picard or Boutros Boutros-Ghali Picard.


Ahab Picard was a bad-ass, but his emotions makes him a shiatty leader who reacts instead of acts.

Sisco, however, is able to channel his anger in ways that no other captain has been able to before. That anger makes him the cream of the crop when it comes to bad-assitry and leadership
 
2012-11-29 11:38:50 AM

cman: Sisco, however, is able to channel his anger in ways that no other captain has been able to before. That anger makes him the cream of the crop when it comes to bad-assitry and leadership


Janeway would have just blown up DS9 at the first sign of Cardassian incursion.
 
2012-11-29 11:40:55 AM

ManateeGag: cman: Sisco, however, is able to channel his anger in ways that no other captain has been able to before. That anger makes him the cream of the crop when it comes to bad-assitry and leadership

Janeway would have just blown up DS9 at the first sign of Cardassian incursion.


But only if she could make sure her crew would be stranded on a runabout for 7 years because she blew up the station.
 
2012-11-29 11:47:55 AM

FirstNationalBastard: ManateeGag: cman: Sisco, however, is able to channel his anger in ways that no other captain has been able to before. That anger makes him the cream of the crop when it comes to bad-assitry and leadership

Janeway would have just blown up DS9 at the first sign of Cardassian incursion.

But only if she could make sure her crew would be stranded on a runabout for 7 years because she blew up the station.


maybe she would have flown the station through the wormhole then blew it up, somehow sealing the wormhole forever.
 
2012-11-29 11:48:36 AM

ManateeGag: FirstNationalBastard: ManateeGag: cman: Sisco, however, is able to channel his anger in ways that no other captain has been able to before. That anger makes him the cream of the crop when it comes to bad-assitry and leadership

Janeway would have just blown up DS9 at the first sign of Cardassian incursion.

But only if she could make sure her crew would be stranded on a runabout for 7 years because she blew up the station.

maybe she would have flown the station through the wormhole then blew it up, somehow sealing the wormhole forever.


But only if trapped on the other side.
 
2012-11-29 11:49:24 AM

Shadow Blasko: ManateeGag: FirstNationalBastard: ManateeGag: cman: Sisco, however, is able to channel his anger in ways that no other captain has been able to before. That anger makes him the cream of the crop when it comes to bad-assitry and leadership

Janeway would have just blown up DS9 at the first sign of Cardassian incursion.

But only if she could make sure her crew would be stranded on a runabout for 7 years because she blew up the station.

maybe she would have flown the station through the wormhole then blew it up, somehow sealing the wormhole forever.

But only if trapped on the other side.


that goes without saying. then refuse any offers for help.
 
2012-11-29 11:51:58 AM
You know, if Counselor Troi were flying the ship with Janeway commanding, they would have just crashed Voyager into the Caretaker array and killed everyone.
 
2012-11-29 11:54:01 AM

FirstNationalBastard: You know, if Counselor Troi were flying the ship with Janeway commanding, they would have just crashed Voyager into the Caretaker array and killed everyone.


Barclay would have gone back in time and saved Troi.

/and with that... I am off to work for a few. Have a nice thread.
 
2012-11-29 12:00:10 PM

Shadow Blasko: FirstNationalBastard: You know, if Counselor Troi were flying the ship with Janeway commanding, they would have just crashed Voyager into the Caretaker array and killed everyone.

Barclay would have gone back in time and saved Troi.

/and with that... I am off to work for a few. Have a nice thread.


And by "saved" you mean "re-enacted the ramming of the Caretaker array with his penis playing the part of Voyager and Troi's emo vagina as the array".

/Did you ever wonder if the first time Riker nailed Troi in the poop chute, she did that whole "Pain... I feel...GREAT PAIN" thing like she did in Encounter at Farpoint, to which Riker could only respond

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2012-11-29 12:40:50 PM

cman: Sisco, however, is able to channel his anger in ways that no other captain has been able to before. That anger makes him the cream of the crop when it comes to bad-assitry and leadership


You mean Goatee Sisco.


There is a difference
 
2012-11-29 12:48:57 PM
Yesterday's Enterprise at #9? Fark you.
 
2012-11-29 12:52:55 PM

Shadow Blasko: FirstNationalBastard: You know, if Counselor Troi were flying the ship with Janeway commanding, they would have just crashed Voyager into the Caretaker array and killed everyone.

Barclay would have gone back in time and saved Troi.

/and with that... I am off to work for a few. Have a nice thread.


Can you blame him? I was 10 to 17 when TNG was original run (1987-94), and I wanted Troi so bad.

/Id still hit it today.
 
2012-11-29 12:58:02 PM
What was the TNG episode where the inhabitants ran around in white underwear?
 
2012-11-29 01:06:14 PM

wiseolddude: What was the TNG episode where the inhabitants ran around in white underwear?


"Justice".

It was basically a free-love hippy commune that wanted to kill Wesley.

What's not to like about that.
 
2012-11-29 01:06:23 PM
ST:TNG episode that has the Enterprise blow up over and over until Data realizes the ship is stuck in a time anomaly. Best poker game ever.
 
2012-11-29 01:09:07 PM

wiseolddude: What was the TNG episode where the inhabitants ran around in white underwear?


Justice?

tng.trekcore.com

It was the one where farking Wesley ruined the stopover at Camel Toe, Moose Knuckle, and Tits World because he wouldn't just die.

/it was also about 5 episodes after Fear of a Black Planet, where Picard smugly talked about how he couldn't break the prime directive, then saves the High Nubian Princess by quickly bringing her back to life after she's poisoned, and then in Wesley ruins Planet Fark, Picard smugly breaks the prime directive when he could have just used the same damn trick to save the little farker.
 
2012-11-29 01:13:10 PM

Sultan Of Herf: Can you blame him? I was 10 to 17 when TNG was original run (1987-94), and I wanted Troi so bad.

/Id still hit it today.


Got to talk to her at Comic Con in Austin OCT 28. Sweet lady and yeah I would, yes sir I would
 
2012-11-29 01:13:48 PM

cman: cman: First contact should be number one on the list. It was the second best movie in the franchise, according to polls.

Plus, the Voyager story when they traveled back to 1996 and earth should be on this list. That was other funniest episode of all Voyager ones

God damn autocorrect. Fixt


Tuvok in a 'do rag, that in itself justifies the episode's production. If I'm the first to mention this in this thread Fark has failed.
 
2012-11-29 01:21:15 PM
It is unfortunate that it is the over-reliance on Time Travel that is strangling the franchise.
 
2012-11-29 01:28:32 PM

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: It is unfortunate that it is the over-reliance on Time Travel that is strangling the franchise.


If only there was a way to go back in time and fix it for you.
 
2012-11-29 01:28:51 PM
why wouldn't "the inner light" constitute as time travel? Picard lives and entire lifetime in 25 minutes!
 
2012-11-29 01:31:42 PM

benjordan: why wouldn't "the inner light" constitute as time travel? Picard lives and entire lifetime in 25 minutes!


Because no time was actually travelled. It was implanted. Same as the DS9 episode where O'Brien gets an entire prison sentence shoved into his brain.
 
2012-11-29 01:38:11 PM

Son of Thunder: benjordan: why wouldn't "the inner light" constitute as time travel? Picard lives and entire lifetime in 25 minutes!

Because no time was actually travelled. It was implanted. Same as the DS9 episode where O'Brien gets an entire prison sentence shoved into his brain.


ah poop, good point. Can I state for the record it's a beautiful episode though?
 
2012-11-29 01:43:06 PM

cman: First contact should be number one on the list. It was the second best movie in the franchise. According to polls.

Plus, the Voyager story when they traveled back to 1996 and earth should be on this list. That was other funniest episode of all Voyager ones


Uh, nope.

SnarfVader: 1. The City on the Edge of Forever

Yep, they got #1 right. The best episode of TOS. Saw it back when TOS was the only series.


This.
 
2012-11-29 01:45:53 PM

Mugato: FirstNationalBastard: No, they ruined the Borg when they introduced Hugh, and Picard was talked out of destroying the Borg because Geordi introduced him to Mary Sue of Borg.

Picard should have been court martialed and thrown out of starfleet for farking that up.

cman: That episode was too damn nostalgic for my tastes. It only a huge lovefest of TOS. The concept was awesome, but the execution left something to be desired.

Well it was the 30th anniversary episode, so it was nostalgic and all tongue in cheek.


Which fit the nature of the original "Trouble With Tribbles" episode IMHO.
 
2012-11-29 01:52:44 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: cman: Sisco, however, is able to channel his anger in ways that no other captain has been able to before. That anger makes him the cream of the crop when it comes to bad-assitry and leadership

You mean Goatee Sisco.


There is a difference


Hawk Sisko. That was the difference.
 
2012-11-29 01:54:09 PM

SnarfVader: 1. The City on the Edge of Forever

Yep, they got #1 right. The best episode of TOS. Saw it back when TOS was the only series.


Read the unexpurgated screenplay by Harlan Ellison, which Roddenberry chopped up to make it more palatable to a TV audience and his specific utopian ideal. Ellison's script made a lot more sense (Yes, Virginia, there are drug dealers in the future, even on starships) and had a much better ending (We see that alien justice for thems who muck about with the Guardian is very, very dark indeed). I still think the episode rocks as one of the best in TOS, but it's one of those things that, once you read the original screenplay, you realize how much better it can be.

Mugato: FirstNationalBastard: No, they ruined the Borg when they introduced Hugh, and Picard was talked out of destroying the Borg because Geordi introduced him to Mary Sue of Borg.

Picard should have been court martialed and thrown out of starfleet for farking that up.

cman: That episode was too damn nostalgic for my tastes. It only a huge lovefest of TOS. The concept was awesome, but the execution left something to be desired.

Well it was the 30th anniversary episode, so it was nostalgic and all tongue in cheek.


Picard should have been drummed out of Starfleet after the Locutus incident. Whether you're assimilated by a hive mind and made to kill 11,000 of your fellow officers and destroy most of the fleet is irrelevant; in any ethical situation, he'd never be put back in charge of a starship, much less the Enterprise. Case closed, over and out, New York City. While the BoBW was an amazing two-parter, the politics of Roddenberry's future continue to surprise me, or rather insults me for even thinking I should bring reality into a future military organization's judicial system.

My vote for best time travel still has to be Yesterday's Enterprise. It had most of the necessary elements correct from a physics point of view, in that all but Guinan were unaware of the incident once the timeline was set right.

If you really want a story that knocks your head, read "Q Squared" by Peter David. Dude deals with THREE separate Enterprise timelines (the TV one, the Yesterday's Enterprise one, and a third one where Data is a human with a positronic brain and Jack Crusher commands the Enterprise) then splices them all together into one glorious mess.
 
2012-11-29 02:03:44 PM

th0th: If you really want a story that knocks your head, read "Q Squared" by Peter David. Dude deals with THREE separate Enterprise timelines (the TV one, the Yesterday's Enterprise one, and a third one where Data is a human with a positronic brain and Jack Crusher commands the Enterprise) then splices them all together into one glorious mess.


They wanted Star Trek movies?

THAT was your farking Star Trek movie.

/Hell, even Imzadi, which did feature the Guardian, would have made a better Trek movie than 7, 9, 10, or TLFMP.
 
2012-11-29 02:05:23 PM
Star Trek time travel stories don't make sense ever since they introduced The Relativity into the universe. What, they looked the other way with the whales and the other temporal incursions?

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2012-11-29 02:11:26 PM

th0th: If you really want a story that knocks your head, read "Q Squared" by Peter David. Dude deals with THREE separate Enterprise timelines (the TV one, the Yesterday's Enterprise one, and a third one where Data is a human with a positronic brain and Jack Crusher commands the Enterprise) then splices them all together into one glorious mess.


That book is definitely confusing on the first read, but it didn't really deal with time travel. Imzadi (the first one) is a better time travel story, though it borrows heavily from City on the Edge of Forever. Either way, Peter David is pretty awesome

/And what shall we do when we're finished learning everything?
 
2012-11-29 02:12:17 PM

PsyLord: Star Trek time travel stories don't make sense ever since they introduced The Relativity into the universe. What, they looked the other way with the whales and the other temporal incursions?

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It was bad when they had that Seven of Nine is the Hero of the time and space continuum, but when Enterprise came around, holy shiat did they over do it; and I mean they farking RUINED the Trek franchise
 
2012-11-29 02:13:27 PM

PsyLord: Star Trek time travel stories don't make sense ever since they introduced The Relativity into the universe. What, they looked the other way with the whales and the other temporal incursions?


You mean the Time Cops? That shiat makes no sense whatsoever. If there were cops who stopped temporal incursions, there would be no time travel episodes.
 
2012-11-29 02:15:38 PM

Mugato: PsyLord: Star Trek time travel stories don't make sense ever since they introduced The Relativity into the universe. What, they looked the other way with the whales and the other temporal incursions?

You mean the Time Cops? That shiat makes no sense whatsoever. If there were cops who stopped temporal incursions, there would be no time travel episodes.


Exactly. That's why it makes no sense introducing the ship and the time cops.
 
2012-11-29 02:18:43 PM
Inner Light was a time travel story of sorts, and possibly the best Trek episode EVAR!
 
2012-11-29 02:23:44 PM

HST's Dead Carcass: Inner Light was a time travel story of sorts, and possibly the best Trek episode EVAR!


An ex of mine's favorite episode. I felt like a jerk when I said mine was when Picard became a Borg and stuff blew up good.

/bonus, that conversation was at a strip club after she gave me a lap dance
//yes, she is greatly missed
 
2012-11-29 02:24:25 PM

Shadow Blasko: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x281]

I don't like this list...

Meow


You know who ELSE doesn't like this list?

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2012-11-29 02:29:44 PM

Mugato: HST's Dead Carcass: Inner Light was a time travel story of sorts, and possibly the best Trek episode EVAR!

An ex of mine's favorite episode. I felt like a jerk when I said mine was when Picard became a Borg and stuff blew up good.

/bonus, that conversation was at a strip club after she gave me a lap dance
//yes, she is greatly missed


A stripper that watches Star Trek? Fascinating...

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2012-11-29 02:35:30 PM

Mugato: PsyLord: Star Trek time travel stories don't make sense ever since they introduced The Relativity into the universe. What, they looked the other way with the whales and the other temporal incursions?

You mean the Time Cops? That shiat makes no sense whatsoever. If there were cops who stopped temporal incursions, there would be no time travel episodes.


Maybe they don't stop temporal incursions their historical records show "should" happen, that are necessary for their timeline to happen? They're just really dropping the ball when it comes to Nero though.
 
2012-11-29 02:39:27 PM

PsyLord: Mugato: PsyLord: Star Trek time travel stories don't make sense ever since they introduced The Relativity into the universe. What, they looked the other way with the whales and the other temporal incursions?

You mean the Time Cops? That shiat makes no sense whatsoever. If there were cops who stopped temporal incursions, there would be no time travel episodes.

Exactly. That's why it makes no sense introducing the ship and the time cops.


Uh, the Time Cops originate in a timeline that had time travel incidents in their past. Rectify those and they erase themselves, duh. They only policed the incidents contrary to their past, not all incidents.

There's your sense, yo.
 
2012-11-29 02:42:03 PM
Damn you, Slim. And Nero only time traveled in the 90210 universe, not the real Trekverse.
 
2012-11-29 02:42:46 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: Mugato: PsyLord: Star Trek time travel stories don't make sense ever since they introduced The Relativity into the universe. What, they looked the other way with the whales and the other temporal incursions?

You mean the Time Cops? That shiat makes no sense whatsoever. If there were cops who stopped temporal incursions, there would be no time travel episodes.

Maybe they don't stop temporal incursions their historical records show "should" happen, that are necessary for their timeline to happen? They're just really dropping the ball when it comes to Nero though.


They are suppose to uphold the temporal prime directive, which I guess is the same as the prime directive just with temporal situations. So according to the prime directive, the Federation should not interfere with lesser civilizations and through direct or indirect means influence their development. That doesn't mean that other races can't do that.

So I'm guessing that the temporal prime directive holds the Federation to those same rules, just that they can't travel back in time and muck up the time stream for their own benefit. Other races might do that, but the Federation's time cops have no jurisdiction over them.
 
2012-11-29 02:50:59 PM
Lost in delta crew says this list needs to go to 11.

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2012-11-29 02:56:12 PM

Son of Thunder: benjordan: why wouldn't "the inner light" constitute as time travel? Picard lives and entire lifetime in 25 minutes!

Because no time was actually travelled. It was implanted. Same as the DS9 episode where O'Brien gets an entire prison sentence shoved into his brain.


But there was the episode where O'Brien hops around in time and ends up dying of radiation poisoning.

/The DS9 writers loved making that guy suffer.
 
2012-11-29 03:01:24 PM

NeoCortex42: Son of Thunder: benjordan: why wouldn't "the inner light" constitute as time travel? Picard lives and entire lifetime in 25 minutes!

Because no time was actually travelled. It was implanted. Same as the DS9 episode where O'Brien gets an entire prison sentence shoved into his brain.

But there was the episode where O'Brien hops around in time and ends up dying of radiation poisoning.

/The DS9 writers loved making that guy suffer.


O'Brien only traveled back in time three hours. Does that count?

/The DS9 Producers would make a point of doing a "Torture O'Brien" episode every season. They also said if they had known there was going to be a follow-up episode to Siege of AR-558, O'Brien would have lost a leg instead of Nog.
 
2012-11-29 03:18:51 PM

SnarfVader: 1. The City on the Edge of Forever

Yep, they got #1 right. The best episode of TOS. Saw it back when TOS was the only series.



It is impossible to overstate how much of an effect that episode had on my impressionable young mind, back in the day. Back in an era when television was pure disposable cheese, that story was genuinely profound... but still easily accessible and entertaining to a little kid like me.
 
2012-11-29 03:23:42 PM

FirstNationalBastard: /The DS9 Producers would make a point of doing a "Torture O'Brien" episode every season. They also said if they had known there was going to be a follow-up episode to Siege of AR-558, O'Brien would have lost a leg instead of Nog.


a season?! Rewatched all the episodes and you couldn't miss the pure hatred that God had for the O'Briens! Torture, kid taken, undercover missions where new friends die, more torture, wife taken by aliens, and even more torture. How many missions did he end up in a broken ship on some god forsaken planet? And don't get me started on how many jr engineers he lost. You had a better chance of living with a red shirt and James Kirk than a yellow shirt and O'Brien!

And Nog losing his leg lead to one of the best holodeck episodes since they introduced the holodeck!
 
2012-11-29 03:52:03 PM
I haven't watched any of TOS, but the rest has left me with one conclusion: I hate time travel episodes.

The only one(s) I remember fondly (or at least find interesting) is Voyager's: Year of Hell and TNG's: Time's Arrow. Maybe it's because they didn't leave a big pile of WHY after watching it. Not that Time's Arrow didn't come close. After introducing Mark Twain as someone who knew what was going on, I couldn't facepalm hard enough.
 
2012-11-29 04:09:24 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: a season?! Rewatched all the episodes and you couldn't miss the pure hatred that God had for the O'Briens!


i don't know, Ensign Kim on Voyager had it pretty rough. He was the standard whipping boy. At least O'Brien had a girl. Kim was shot down by an alien, a Borg and a hologram.
 
2012-11-29 04:19:52 PM

Mugato: HST's Dead Carcass: Inner Light was a time travel story of sorts, and possibly the best Trek episode EVAR!

An ex of mine's favorite episode. I felt like a jerk when I said mine was when Picard became a Borg and stuff blew up good.

/bonus, that conversation was at a strip club after she gave me a lap dance
//yes, she is greatly missed


For the record, they don't count as "exes".
 
2012-11-29 04:20:04 PM

Mugato: The Stealth Hippopotamus: a season?! Rewatched all the episodes and you couldn't miss the pure hatred that God had for the O'Briens!

i don't know, Ensign Kim on Voyager had it pretty rough. He was the standard whipping boy. At least O'Brien had a girl. Kim was shot down by an alien, a Borg and a hologram.


Yeah, but the producers hated him anyway. If it hadn't been for some lame top 100 sexiest list he barely made, Kim was due to be killed off around the same time Kes went away. 

O'Brien got that treatment because the producers knew it would be a good episode.

/Hell, they gave Colm Meany a fairly large part in Data's Day, then gave him his own TNG episode the next week. They loved him!
 
2012-11-29 04:21:45 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: Tuvok in a 'do rag, that in itself justifies the episode's production. If I'm the first to mention this in this thread Fark has failed.


why you were looking at Tuvok, we were ogling Sarah Silverman's girl parts.
 
2012-11-29 04:30:54 PM

Mugato: a Borg


hey now. the Borg ASKED him if he wanted any fun naked time, and he turned it down. it's his own damn fault.
 
2012-11-29 04:31:31 PM

ManateeGag: cman: Plus, the Voyager story when they traveled back to 1996 and earth should be on this list.

this should be on the list if only for the hotness of Sarah Silverman.

What about the DS9 episode where Sisko goes back to the time of the "Bell Riots" and ends up being identified as Bell in the history books?


Excellent two parter. But go and rewatch it and then watch some highlights from the Republican primaries. The parallels are uncomfortable.
 
2012-11-29 04:35:39 PM

dj_spanmaster: Mugato: HST's Dead Carcass: Inner Light was a time travel story of sorts, and possibly the best Trek episode EVAR!

An ex of mine's favorite episode. I felt like a jerk when I said mine was when Picard became a Borg and stuff blew up good.

/bonus, that conversation was at a strip club after she gave me a lap dance
//yes, she is greatly missed

For the record, they don't count as "exes".


haha. No, it was a thing . A regrettable thing.

/don't stick your dick in crazy
 
2012-11-29 04:39:25 PM
So... best character overall?


/Barclay
 
2012-11-29 04:49:40 PM

ManateeGag: why you were looking at Tuvok, we were ogling Sarah Silverman's girl parts.


They're there for all to see in a new(?)-ish movie and they ain't much to look at
 
2012-11-29 05:03:16 PM
Although hoping to find Bones and fix the timeline, Kirk falls in love with Edith. Ultimately, he has to allow her death to keep the timeline intact, sacrificing the woman he loves in to restore the universe.

Couldn't he have just taken her with him back to the future?
 
2012-11-29 05:26:41 PM
All Good Things sucked. An anomaly that gets bigger as it moves backward in time? So it's getting smaller, in other words?
 
2012-11-29 05:30:26 PM

NeoCortex42: But there was the episode where O'Brien hops around in time and ends up dying of radiation poisoning.

/The DS9 writers loved making that guy suffer.


They just wanted his character to have suffering in direct proportion to his bad acting.

In all seriousness, I was rather disappointed to see "Yesterday's Enterprise" only 9th on that list. So much is done right with that episode on the subtle (and not so subtle) differences between the two timelines.
 
2012-11-29 05:37:06 PM

zarberg: NeoCortex42: But there was the episode where O'Brien hops around in time and ends up dying of radiation poisoning.

/The DS9 writers loved making that guy suffer.

They just wanted his character to have suffering in direct proportion to his bad acting.

In all seriousness, I was rather disappointed to see "Yesterday's Enterprise" only 9th on that list. So much is done right with that episode on the subtle (and not so subtle) differences between the two timelines.


Hey now, he wasn't that bad, although I will say that he and the actress that played his wife on the show had absolutely no chemistry what so ever.
 
2012-11-29 06:19:24 PM
While not a true time travel episode. The season 3 episode of enterprise were they find the humans living in a old west like planet
 
2012-11-29 06:28:57 PM

Stile4aly: ManateeGag: cman: Plus, the Voyager story when they traveled back to 1996 and earth should be on this list.

this should be on the list if only for the hotness of Sarah Silverman.

What about the DS9 episode where Sisko goes back to the time of the "Bell Riots" and ends up being identified as Bell in the history books?

Excellent two parter. But go and rewatch it and then watch some highlights from the Republican primaries. The parallels are uncomfortable.


And here I thought Pakleds could harness enough brainpower to post.

/you are not smart
 
2012-11-29 07:29:48 PM

BigJake: ManateeGag: why you were looking at Tuvok, we were ogling Sarah Silverman's girl parts.

They're there for all to see in a new(?)-ish movie and they ain't much to look at


Really? I think she has a nice rack.
 
2012-11-29 07:41:59 PM

Mugato: BigJake: ManateeGag: why you were looking at Tuvok, we were ogling Sarah Silverman's girl parts.

They're there for all to see in a new(?)-ish movie and they ain't much to look at

Really? I think she has a nice rack.


They looked great in that Enterprise episode. It would have been even better in 3D.
 
2012-11-29 08:58:51 PM

BigJake: ManateeGag: why you were looking at Tuvok, we were ogling Sarah Silverman's girl parts.

They're there for all to see in a new(?)-ish movie and they ain't much to look at


You're comparing young and perky mid-20s girl parts circa 1996 to current 40+ girl parts circa 2012.

Age & gravity are a biatch.
 
2012-11-29 09:37:09 PM

peterthx: You're comparing young and perky mid-20s girl parts circa 1996 to current 40+ girl parts circa 2012.


yes. even if that stuff was moved up it's still blehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
2012-11-29 10:03:15 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Although hoping to find Bones and fix the timeline, Kirk falls in love with Edith. Ultimately, he has to allow her death to keep the timeline intact, sacrificing the woman he loves in to restore the universe.

Couldn't he have just taken her with him back to the future?


I thought that as well.

CSB: I met Harlan Ellison on the picket line during the writers strike. Had no idea who he was and had never seen City On.. at that point. But I chatted with him for a while and he seemed nice. It was only a few minutes later when a crew started interviewing him that I listened and heard him say "When I wrote City On The Edge Of Forever for Star Trek..." that I realised that even I had heard of that episode. Later heard that he is supposed to be a huge asshole, but he seemed cool at the time.

CSB Follow up: He had a huge clearout a year or so later of stuff. I got the DVD of I Robot with a copy of his original script that a friend of his found in Wallmart and bought for him. He even signed it for me.

/End CSB.
 
2012-11-29 10:13:59 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: cman: Plus, the Voyager story when they traveled back to 1996 and earth should be on this list. That was other funniest episode of all Voyager ones

T'pol in a little blue sundress, that alone should get it on the list.

And the velcro story line was funny


T'Pol in a Voyager episode?
 
2012-11-29 10:40:17 PM

Flt209er: That book is definitely confusing on the first read, but it didn't really deal with time travel. Imzadi (the first one) is a better time travel story, though it borrows heavily from City on the Edge of Forever. Either way, Peter David is pretty awesome

/And what shall we do when we're finished learning everything?


Holy shiat, I completely forgot about Imzadi. I tried to discount it because in essence it'd be a Troi/Riker movie, and that's slightly less interesting than watching paint dry.

The thing I liked about Peter David's Trek work (and I still think Vendetta would have made a PERFECT Borg movie) is how he so easily melds classic Trek plot elements with Next Gen storylines.  Not to mention how well he writes the characters.
 
2012-11-29 11:15:03 PM
Obligatory:
zombieroom.net
 
2012-11-30 12:05:23 AM

cman: Mugato: The Tribble DS9 episode was great, especially considering that it was a lot harder to composite shots from the new and original show footage back then. And Dax in a red shirt uniform.

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That episode was too damn nostalgic for my tastes. It only a huge lovefest of TOS. The concept was awesome, but the execution left something to be desired.

 


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-30 12:10:52 AM
Totes watching 'City On The Edge of Forever' right now just because of this thread. TOS or GTFO.
 
2012-11-30 12:16:19 AM
Watching "Yesterday's Enterprise" now because of this thread. Totally deserves to be higher. I love that moment when Picard steps in front of Worf and then turns around and Tasha is there.
 
2012-11-30 12:26:27 AM
Vaseline lens Joan Collins FTW!!!!!!
 
2012-11-30 06:07:25 AM
"Yesterday's Enterprise" at No. 9?

And Voyager's "Timeless" doesn't even make the list? I would make a case that's one of the best episodes of that series.

Fark you all (waves my captain's log at the writers of this crap).
 
2012-11-30 09:13:45 AM

th0th: Flt209er: That book is definitely confusing on the first read, but it didn't really deal with time travel. Imzadi (the first one) is a better time travel story, though it borrows heavily from City on the Edge of Forever. Either way, Peter David is pretty awesome

/And what shall we do when we're finished learning everything?

Holy shiat, I completely forgot about Imzadi. I tried to discount it because in essence it'd be a Troi/Riker movie, and that's slightly less interesting than watching paint dry.

The thing I liked about Peter David's Trek work (and I still think Vendetta would have made a PERFECT Borg movie) is how he so easily melds classic Trek plot elements with Next Gen storylines.  Not to mention how well he writes the characters.


Peter David's New Frontier would have been a better choice for the 5th show than Enterprise.
 
2012-11-30 10:33:14 AM

Flint Ironstag: Satanic_Hamster: Although hoping to find Bones and fix the timeline, Kirk falls in love with Edith. Ultimately, he has to allow her death to keep the timeline intact, sacrificing the woman he loves in to restore the universe.

Couldn't he have just taken her with him back to the future?

I thought that as well.

CSB: I met Harlan Ellison on the picket line during the writers strike. Had no idea who he was and had never seen City On.. at that point. But I chatted with him for a while and he seemed nice. It was only a few minutes later when a crew started interviewing him that I listened and heard him say "When I wrote City On The Edge Of Forever for Star Trek..." that I realised that even I had heard of that episode. Later heard that he is supposed to be a huge asshole, but he seemed cool at the time.

CSB Follow up: He had a huge clearout a year or so later of stuff. I got the DVD of I Robot with a copy of his original script that a friend of his found in Wallmart and bought for him. He even signed it for me.

/End CSB.


I wouldn't say he's a huge asshole but he is a cranky old bastard and does have his moments of cloud-yelling. I went to a panel he was on at ICON a few years back and he talked about how people write him letters saying he inspired them to be a writer. He said he always tell them he had nothing to do with it because if he's inspiring people to do good things, he's also potentially inspiring people to do bad things and he wants no part of that. He's just a negative kind of guy.
 
2012-11-30 10:46:09 AM
They forgot an episode thats top ten



Plot

On stardate 5373.4, Captain Kirk and Spock return from a time-traveling research project they have been conducting with the use of the Guardian of Forever. When they emerge from the portal, they discover that no one on board the Enterprise recognizes Spock. Spock is further surprised to see that an Andorian officer, Commander Thelin, has replaced him as first officer.

In the new timeline, history has recorded that Spock died at age 7 undergoing the Kahs-wan ordeal on Vulcan. However, Spock remembers that when he took the Kahs-wan, his life was saved by Selek - an adult relative - when a desert creature had attacked them. Realizing what must have happened, Spock knows he must go back through the time gate to his Vulcan childhood, and save the life of the child he was. At first, this proceeds smoothly: Spock assumes the identity of Selek, and is welcomed into the home of Sarek and Amanda Grayson.[note 2] "Selek" journeys into the desert to find his younger self, and saves the boy. However, I Chaya - Spock's pet sehlat - has been gravely wounded. Young Spock is offered a choice: either I Chaya can be treated with medicines (but will live in obvious pain) or his pet can be allowed to die with dignity. Young Spock chooses the latter, and I Chaya dies peacefully. By making this choice, Spock has thus chosen the Vulcan way of life - logic and emotional control - and his elder self, successful in repairing history, returns to the restored present day.

Link
 
2012-11-30 11:26:35 AM

MFAWG: Totes watching 'City On The Edge of Forever' right now just because of this thread. TOS or GTFO.




"Edith Keeler...must die."

/wants time machine to bang a young Joan Collins
 
2012-11-30 11:27:42 AM

lakrfool: MFAWG: Totes watching 'City On The Edge of Forever' right now just because of this thread. TOS or GTFO.



"Edith Keeler...must die."

/wants time machine to bang a young Joan Collins


I'd hit it so hard, she'd think she was trying to cross the street.
 
2012-11-30 10:30:51 PM
Just came to say that 2 and 1 should be switched. Trials & Tribblations was just too much win.
 
2012-12-02 09:26:06 AM

Shadow Blasko:
Maybe that is the secret of the Federations success. Having the right people in the right job at the right time.


Raymond Burr once did a guest appearance, in character as Perry Mason, on a show starring Groucho Marx. Groucho was in jail accused of...something, don't recall. And Perry Mason loses his case and Groucho gets convicted

Groucho says something like, "How can this be? You always win your cases!"

Perry Mason: "Perhaps I have better writers."
 
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