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2012-11-29 01:13:10 PM

Sultan Of Herf: Can you blame him? I was 10 to 17 when TNG was original run (1987-94), and I wanted Troi so bad.

/Id still hit it today.


Got to talk to her at Comic Con in Austin OCT 28. Sweet lady and yeah I would, yes sir I would
 
2012-11-29 01:13:48 PM

cman: cman: First contact should be number one on the list. It was the second best movie in the franchise, according to polls.

Plus, the Voyager story when they traveled back to 1996 and earth should be on this list. That was other funniest episode of all Voyager ones

God damn autocorrect. Fixt


Tuvok in a 'do rag, that in itself justifies the episode's production. If I'm the first to mention this in this thread Fark has failed.
 
2012-11-29 01:21:15 PM
It is unfortunate that it is the over-reliance on Time Travel that is strangling the franchise.
 
2012-11-29 01:28:32 PM

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: It is unfortunate that it is the over-reliance on Time Travel that is strangling the franchise.


If only there was a way to go back in time and fix it for you.
 
2012-11-29 01:28:51 PM
why wouldn't "the inner light" constitute as time travel? Picard lives and entire lifetime in 25 minutes!
 
2012-11-29 01:31:42 PM

benjordan: why wouldn't "the inner light" constitute as time travel? Picard lives and entire lifetime in 25 minutes!


Because no time was actually travelled. It was implanted. Same as the DS9 episode where O'Brien gets an entire prison sentence shoved into his brain.
 
2012-11-29 01:38:11 PM

Son of Thunder: benjordan: why wouldn't "the inner light" constitute as time travel? Picard lives and entire lifetime in 25 minutes!

Because no time was actually travelled. It was implanted. Same as the DS9 episode where O'Brien gets an entire prison sentence shoved into his brain.


ah poop, good point. Can I state for the record it's a beautiful episode though?
 
2012-11-29 01:43:06 PM

cman: First contact should be number one on the list. It was the second best movie in the franchise. According to polls.

Plus, the Voyager story when they traveled back to 1996 and earth should be on this list. That was other funniest episode of all Voyager ones


Uh, nope.

SnarfVader: 1. The City on the Edge of Forever

Yep, they got #1 right. The best episode of TOS. Saw it back when TOS was the only series.


This.
 
2012-11-29 01:45:53 PM

Mugato: FirstNationalBastard: No, they ruined the Borg when they introduced Hugh, and Picard was talked out of destroying the Borg because Geordi introduced him to Mary Sue of Borg.

Picard should have been court martialed and thrown out of starfleet for farking that up.

cman: That episode was too damn nostalgic for my tastes. It only a huge lovefest of TOS. The concept was awesome, but the execution left something to be desired.

Well it was the 30th anniversary episode, so it was nostalgic and all tongue in cheek.


Which fit the nature of the original "Trouble With Tribbles" episode IMHO.
 
2012-11-29 01:52:44 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: cman: Sisco, however, is able to channel his anger in ways that no other captain has been able to before. That anger makes him the cream of the crop when it comes to bad-assitry and leadership

You mean Goatee Sisco.


There is a difference


Hawk Sisko. That was the difference.
 
2012-11-29 01:54:09 PM

SnarfVader: 1. The City on the Edge of Forever

Yep, they got #1 right. The best episode of TOS. Saw it back when TOS was the only series.


Read the unexpurgated screenplay by Harlan Ellison, which Roddenberry chopped up to make it more palatable to a TV audience and his specific utopian ideal. Ellison's script made a lot more sense (Yes, Virginia, there are drug dealers in the future, even on starships) and had a much better ending (We see that alien justice for thems who muck about with the Guardian is very, very dark indeed). I still think the episode rocks as one of the best in TOS, but it's one of those things that, once you read the original screenplay, you realize how much better it can be.

Mugato: FirstNationalBastard: No, they ruined the Borg when they introduced Hugh, and Picard was talked out of destroying the Borg because Geordi introduced him to Mary Sue of Borg.

Picard should have been court martialed and thrown out of starfleet for farking that up.

cman: That episode was too damn nostalgic for my tastes. It only a huge lovefest of TOS. The concept was awesome, but the execution left something to be desired.

Well it was the 30th anniversary episode, so it was nostalgic and all tongue in cheek.


Picard should have been drummed out of Starfleet after the Locutus incident. Whether you're assimilated by a hive mind and made to kill 11,000 of your fellow officers and destroy most of the fleet is irrelevant; in any ethical situation, he'd never be put back in charge of a starship, much less the Enterprise. Case closed, over and out, New York City. While the BoBW was an amazing two-parter, the politics of Roddenberry's future continue to surprise me, or rather insults me for even thinking I should bring reality into a future military organization's judicial system.

My vote for best time travel still has to be Yesterday's Enterprise. It had most of the necessary elements correct from a physics point of view, in that all but Guinan were unaware of the incident once the timeline was set right.

If you really want a story that knocks your head, read "Q Squared" by Peter David. Dude deals with THREE separate Enterprise timelines (the TV one, the Yesterday's Enterprise one, and a third one where Data is a human with a positronic brain and Jack Crusher commands the Enterprise) then splices them all together into one glorious mess.
 
2012-11-29 02:03:44 PM

th0th: If you really want a story that knocks your head, read "Q Squared" by Peter David. Dude deals with THREE separate Enterprise timelines (the TV one, the Yesterday's Enterprise one, and a third one where Data is a human with a positronic brain and Jack Crusher commands the Enterprise) then splices them all together into one glorious mess.


They wanted Star Trek movies?

THAT was your farking Star Trek movie.

/Hell, even Imzadi, which did feature the Guardian, would have made a better Trek movie than 7, 9, 10, or TLFMP.
 
2012-11-29 02:05:23 PM
Star Trek time travel stories don't make sense ever since they introduced The Relativity into the universe. What, they looked the other way with the whales and the other temporal incursions?

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2012-11-29 02:11:26 PM

th0th: If you really want a story that knocks your head, read "Q Squared" by Peter David. Dude deals with THREE separate Enterprise timelines (the TV one, the Yesterday's Enterprise one, and a third one where Data is a human with a positronic brain and Jack Crusher commands the Enterprise) then splices them all together into one glorious mess.


That book is definitely confusing on the first read, but it didn't really deal with time travel. Imzadi (the first one) is a better time travel story, though it borrows heavily from City on the Edge of Forever. Either way, Peter David is pretty awesome

/And what shall we do when we're finished learning everything?
 
2012-11-29 02:12:17 PM

PsyLord: Star Trek time travel stories don't make sense ever since they introduced The Relativity into the universe. What, they looked the other way with the whales and the other temporal incursions?

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It was bad when they had that Seven of Nine is the Hero of the time and space continuum, but when Enterprise came around, holy shiat did they over do it; and I mean they farking RUINED the Trek franchise
 
2012-11-29 02:13:27 PM

PsyLord: Star Trek time travel stories don't make sense ever since they introduced The Relativity into the universe. What, they looked the other way with the whales and the other temporal incursions?


You mean the Time Cops? That shiat makes no sense whatsoever. If there were cops who stopped temporal incursions, there would be no time travel episodes.
 
2012-11-29 02:15:38 PM

Mugato: PsyLord: Star Trek time travel stories don't make sense ever since they introduced The Relativity into the universe. What, they looked the other way with the whales and the other temporal incursions?

You mean the Time Cops? That shiat makes no sense whatsoever. If there were cops who stopped temporal incursions, there would be no time travel episodes.


Exactly. That's why it makes no sense introducing the ship and the time cops.
 
2012-11-29 02:18:43 PM
Inner Light was a time travel story of sorts, and possibly the best Trek episode EVAR!
 
2012-11-29 02:23:44 PM

HST's Dead Carcass: Inner Light was a time travel story of sorts, and possibly the best Trek episode EVAR!


An ex of mine's favorite episode. I felt like a jerk when I said mine was when Picard became a Borg and stuff blew up good.

/bonus, that conversation was at a strip club after she gave me a lap dance
//yes, she is greatly missed
 
2012-11-29 02:24:25 PM

Shadow Blasko: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x281]

I don't like this list...

Meow


You know who ELSE doesn't like this list?

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2012-11-29 02:29:44 PM

Mugato: HST's Dead Carcass: Inner Light was a time travel story of sorts, and possibly the best Trek episode EVAR!

An ex of mine's favorite episode. I felt like a jerk when I said mine was when Picard became a Borg and stuff blew up good.

/bonus, that conversation was at a strip club after she gave me a lap dance
//yes, she is greatly missed


A stripper that watches Star Trek? Fascinating...

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2012-11-29 02:35:30 PM

Mugato: PsyLord: Star Trek time travel stories don't make sense ever since they introduced The Relativity into the universe. What, they looked the other way with the whales and the other temporal incursions?

You mean the Time Cops? That shiat makes no sense whatsoever. If there were cops who stopped temporal incursions, there would be no time travel episodes.


Maybe they don't stop temporal incursions their historical records show "should" happen, that are necessary for their timeline to happen? They're just really dropping the ball when it comes to Nero though.
 
2012-11-29 02:39:27 PM

PsyLord: Mugato: PsyLord: Star Trek time travel stories don't make sense ever since they introduced The Relativity into the universe. What, they looked the other way with the whales and the other temporal incursions?

You mean the Time Cops? That shiat makes no sense whatsoever. If there were cops who stopped temporal incursions, there would be no time travel episodes.

Exactly. That's why it makes no sense introducing the ship and the time cops.


Uh, the Time Cops originate in a timeline that had time travel incidents in their past. Rectify those and they erase themselves, duh. They only policed the incidents contrary to their past, not all incidents.

There's your sense, yo.
 
2012-11-29 02:42:03 PM
Damn you, Slim. And Nero only time traveled in the 90210 universe, not the real Trekverse.
 
2012-11-29 02:42:46 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: Mugato: PsyLord: Star Trek time travel stories don't make sense ever since they introduced The Relativity into the universe. What, they looked the other way with the whales and the other temporal incursions?

You mean the Time Cops? That shiat makes no sense whatsoever. If there were cops who stopped temporal incursions, there would be no time travel episodes.

Maybe they don't stop temporal incursions their historical records show "should" happen, that are necessary for their timeline to happen? They're just really dropping the ball when it comes to Nero though.


They are suppose to uphold the temporal prime directive, which I guess is the same as the prime directive just with temporal situations. So according to the prime directive, the Federation should not interfere with lesser civilizations and through direct or indirect means influence their development. That doesn't mean that other races can't do that.

So I'm guessing that the temporal prime directive holds the Federation to those same rules, just that they can't travel back in time and muck up the time stream for their own benefit. Other races might do that, but the Federation's time cops have no jurisdiction over them.
 
2012-11-29 02:50:59 PM
Lost in delta crew says this list needs to go to 11.

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2012-11-29 02:56:12 PM

Son of Thunder: benjordan: why wouldn't "the inner light" constitute as time travel? Picard lives and entire lifetime in 25 minutes!

Because no time was actually travelled. It was implanted. Same as the DS9 episode where O'Brien gets an entire prison sentence shoved into his brain.


But there was the episode where O'Brien hops around in time and ends up dying of radiation poisoning.

/The DS9 writers loved making that guy suffer.
 
2012-11-29 03:01:24 PM

NeoCortex42: Son of Thunder: benjordan: why wouldn't "the inner light" constitute as time travel? Picard lives and entire lifetime in 25 minutes!

Because no time was actually travelled. It was implanted. Same as the DS9 episode where O'Brien gets an entire prison sentence shoved into his brain.

But there was the episode where O'Brien hops around in time and ends up dying of radiation poisoning.

/The DS9 writers loved making that guy suffer.


O'Brien only traveled back in time three hours. Does that count?

/The DS9 Producers would make a point of doing a "Torture O'Brien" episode every season. They also said if they had known there was going to be a follow-up episode to Siege of AR-558, O'Brien would have lost a leg instead of Nog.
 
2012-11-29 03:18:51 PM

SnarfVader: 1. The City on the Edge of Forever

Yep, they got #1 right. The best episode of TOS. Saw it back when TOS was the only series.



It is impossible to overstate how much of an effect that episode had on my impressionable young mind, back in the day. Back in an era when television was pure disposable cheese, that story was genuinely profound... but still easily accessible and entertaining to a little kid like me.
 
2012-11-29 03:23:42 PM

FirstNationalBastard: /The DS9 Producers would make a point of doing a "Torture O'Brien" episode every season. They also said if they had known there was going to be a follow-up episode to Siege of AR-558, O'Brien would have lost a leg instead of Nog.


a season?! Rewatched all the episodes and you couldn't miss the pure hatred that God had for the O'Briens! Torture, kid taken, undercover missions where new friends die, more torture, wife taken by aliens, and even more torture. How many missions did he end up in a broken ship on some god forsaken planet? And don't get me started on how many jr engineers he lost. You had a better chance of living with a red shirt and James Kirk than a yellow shirt and O'Brien!

And Nog losing his leg lead to one of the best holodeck episodes since they introduced the holodeck!
 
2012-11-29 03:52:03 PM
I haven't watched any of TOS, but the rest has left me with one conclusion: I hate time travel episodes.

The only one(s) I remember fondly (or at least find interesting) is Voyager's: Year of Hell and TNG's: Time's Arrow. Maybe it's because they didn't leave a big pile of WHY after watching it. Not that Time's Arrow didn't come close. After introducing Mark Twain as someone who knew what was going on, I couldn't facepalm hard enough.
 
2012-11-29 04:09:24 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: a season?! Rewatched all the episodes and you couldn't miss the pure hatred that God had for the O'Briens!


i don't know, Ensign Kim on Voyager had it pretty rough. He was the standard whipping boy. At least O'Brien had a girl. Kim was shot down by an alien, a Borg and a hologram.
 
2012-11-29 04:19:52 PM

Mugato: HST's Dead Carcass: Inner Light was a time travel story of sorts, and possibly the best Trek episode EVAR!

An ex of mine's favorite episode. I felt like a jerk when I said mine was when Picard became a Borg and stuff blew up good.

/bonus, that conversation was at a strip club after she gave me a lap dance
//yes, she is greatly missed


For the record, they don't count as "exes".
 
2012-11-29 04:20:04 PM

Mugato: The Stealth Hippopotamus: a season?! Rewatched all the episodes and you couldn't miss the pure hatred that God had for the O'Briens!

i don't know, Ensign Kim on Voyager had it pretty rough. He was the standard whipping boy. At least O'Brien had a girl. Kim was shot down by an alien, a Borg and a hologram.


Yeah, but the producers hated him anyway. If it hadn't been for some lame top 100 sexiest list he barely made, Kim was due to be killed off around the same time Kes went away. 

O'Brien got that treatment because the producers knew it would be a good episode.

/Hell, they gave Colm Meany a fairly large part in Data's Day, then gave him his own TNG episode the next week. They loved him!
 
2012-11-29 04:21:45 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: Tuvok in a 'do rag, that in itself justifies the episode's production. If I'm the first to mention this in this thread Fark has failed.


why you were looking at Tuvok, we were ogling Sarah Silverman's girl parts.
 
2012-11-29 04:30:54 PM

Mugato: a Borg


hey now. the Borg ASKED him if he wanted any fun naked time, and he turned it down. it's his own damn fault.
 
2012-11-29 04:31:31 PM

ManateeGag: cman: Plus, the Voyager story when they traveled back to 1996 and earth should be on this list.

this should be on the list if only for the hotness of Sarah Silverman.

What about the DS9 episode where Sisko goes back to the time of the "Bell Riots" and ends up being identified as Bell in the history books?


Excellent two parter. But go and rewatch it and then watch some highlights from the Republican primaries. The parallels are uncomfortable.
 
2012-11-29 04:35:39 PM

dj_spanmaster: Mugato: HST's Dead Carcass: Inner Light was a time travel story of sorts, and possibly the best Trek episode EVAR!

An ex of mine's favorite episode. I felt like a jerk when I said mine was when Picard became a Borg and stuff blew up good.

/bonus, that conversation was at a strip club after she gave me a lap dance
//yes, she is greatly missed

For the record, they don't count as "exes".


haha. No, it was a thing . A regrettable thing.

/don't stick your dick in crazy
 
2012-11-29 04:39:25 PM
So... best character overall?


/Barclay
 
2012-11-29 04:49:40 PM

ManateeGag: why you were looking at Tuvok, we were ogling Sarah Silverman's girl parts.


They're there for all to see in a new(?)-ish movie and they ain't much to look at
 
2012-11-29 05:03:16 PM
Although hoping to find Bones and fix the timeline, Kirk falls in love with Edith. Ultimately, he has to allow her death to keep the timeline intact, sacrificing the woman he loves in to restore the universe.

Couldn't he have just taken her with him back to the future?
 
2012-11-29 05:26:41 PM
All Good Things sucked. An anomaly that gets bigger as it moves backward in time? So it's getting smaller, in other words?
 
2012-11-29 05:30:26 PM

NeoCortex42: But there was the episode where O'Brien hops around in time and ends up dying of radiation poisoning.

/The DS9 writers loved making that guy suffer.


They just wanted his character to have suffering in direct proportion to his bad acting.

In all seriousness, I was rather disappointed to see "Yesterday's Enterprise" only 9th on that list. So much is done right with that episode on the subtle (and not so subtle) differences between the two timelines.
 
2012-11-29 05:37:06 PM

zarberg: NeoCortex42: But there was the episode where O'Brien hops around in time and ends up dying of radiation poisoning.

/The DS9 writers loved making that guy suffer.

They just wanted his character to have suffering in direct proportion to his bad acting.

In all seriousness, I was rather disappointed to see "Yesterday's Enterprise" only 9th on that list. So much is done right with that episode on the subtle (and not so subtle) differences between the two timelines.


Hey now, he wasn't that bad, although I will say that he and the actress that played his wife on the show had absolutely no chemistry what so ever.
 
2012-11-29 06:19:24 PM
While not a true time travel episode. The season 3 episode of enterprise were they find the humans living in a old west like planet
 
2012-11-29 06:28:57 PM

Stile4aly: ManateeGag: cman: Plus, the Voyager story when they traveled back to 1996 and earth should be on this list.

this should be on the list if only for the hotness of Sarah Silverman.

What about the DS9 episode where Sisko goes back to the time of the "Bell Riots" and ends up being identified as Bell in the history books?

Excellent two parter. But go and rewatch it and then watch some highlights from the Republican primaries. The parallels are uncomfortable.


And here I thought Pakleds could harness enough brainpower to post.

/you are not smart
 
2012-11-29 07:29:48 PM

BigJake: ManateeGag: why you were looking at Tuvok, we were ogling Sarah Silverman's girl parts.

They're there for all to see in a new(?)-ish movie and they ain't much to look at


Really? I think she has a nice rack.
 
2012-11-29 07:41:59 PM

Mugato: BigJake: ManateeGag: why you were looking at Tuvok, we were ogling Sarah Silverman's girl parts.

They're there for all to see in a new(?)-ish movie and they ain't much to look at

Really? I think she has a nice rack.


They looked great in that Enterprise episode. It would have been even better in 3D.
 
2012-11-29 08:58:51 PM

BigJake: ManateeGag: why you were looking at Tuvok, we were ogling Sarah Silverman's girl parts.

They're there for all to see in a new(?)-ish movie and they ain't much to look at


You're comparing young and perky mid-20s girl parts circa 1996 to current 40+ girl parts circa 2012.

Age & gravity are a biatch.
 
2012-11-29 09:37:09 PM

peterthx: You're comparing young and perky mid-20s girl parts circa 1996 to current 40+ girl parts circa 2012.


yes. even if that stuff was moved up it's still blehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
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