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(The Atlantic Wire)   If you're planning on buying a 1,509-pound gun safe from Amazon, pay the $79 for Amazon Prime. It'll be worth it   (theatlanticwire.com) divider line 132
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2012-11-29 12:18:02 PM

900RR: whiteylexus: Who the fark needs to own 48 guns? I suppose they're all for hunting, right?

Who the fark needs to own 48 pairs of shoes? I guess they're all for walking, right?


Boots are for walking.
 
2012-11-29 12:21:00 PM

900RR: whiteylexus: Who the fark needs to own 48 guns? I suppose they're all for hunting, right?

Who the fark needs to own 48 pairs of shoes? I guess they're all for walking, right?


The flaw in your fallacious rebuttal is assuming that people wouldn't find ownership of 48 pairs of shoes equally ridiculous.
 
2012-11-29 12:26:38 PM

whiteylexus: Who the fark needs to own 48 guns? I suppose they're all for hunting, right?


I'm going to give you 6.5/10. You elicited many responses, but then you disappeared and didn't continue to egg them on. Had you done so you might've been able to get up to an 8, even a 9 if those responses got even more folks riled up.

/You're still a dumbass, though.
 
2012-11-29 12:27:08 PM

syberpud: I'd buy it just to see the look on the face of the UPS guy...


That look will be a smirk as he drops if off at the curb and you have to figure out how to move 1500lbs into your house.
 
2012-11-29 12:33:59 PM
whiteylexus: Who the fark needs to own 48 guns? I suppose they're all for hunting, right?

Where in the 2nd amendment does it mention "hunting"?
 
2012-11-29 12:43:21 PM
Thanks, Bezos, for invoking 'arithmetic' rather than 'math.' Thank you. Thank you.
 
2012-11-29 12:45:54 PM

signaljammer: Thanks, Bezos, for invoking 'arithmetic' rather than 'math.' Thank you. Thank you.


Isn't arthmetic a subset of math?
 
2012-11-29 12:55:02 PM
Your FedEx guy, by the way, may or may not hate forever you if you order one.

Proofreading hard is.
 
2012-11-29 01:20:50 PM
Amazon Prime is an addiction. Yes, Supersaver will ship free on orders over $25 and I used it for the longest time, but with Prime you can buy a $3 or $4 item on a whim and they will ship separately at no cost. Not to mention the $4 overnight shipping can come in handy when you need that PS3 controller or pack of Mach 3 razors tomorrow, and you don't want to pay MSRP + tax at a physical store. If you're crazy like me, you try on clothes at the department store and get them shipped from Amazon when you know your size and usually get a big discount.

Then there's the free book rentals if you own a Kindle and video streaming. Amazon owns me.
 
2012-11-29 01:25:15 PM

Fish in a Barrel: I did this with a Costco subscription. Their price on the safe was so low I saved about $100 by paying for a membership. It wasn't even a gun safe, although it is an awesome safe: QE5541 Fire Safe. It has a USB pass-through so you can put a USB hard drive inside and read/write to it from outside the safe. It sits in my office next to the computer, and I use the protected drive as my backup location.


I wouldn't trust one of those things. What if it doesn't work like it is supposed to? Get an offsite backup like BackBlaze or Carbonite ... they are super cheap! Plus, if someone robs you they are totally taking the safe along with your computer!
 
2012-11-29 01:54:46 PM

Beerguy: whiteylexus: Who the fark needs to own 48 guns? I suppose they're all for hunting, right?

Who needs to own hundreds of bobbleheads?

Who needs to own hundreds of collector plates?

See a pattern?


Read the whole thread and I was shocked, SHOCKED, to see that no one has pointed out what great target practise you could have with those bobbleheads and collector plates.
 
2012-11-29 02:05:56 PM

texref: Plus, if someone robs you they are totally taking the safe along with your computer!


It's bolted to the floor.
 
2012-11-29 02:08:55 PM

I May Be Crazy But...: whiteylexus: Who the fark needs to own 48 guns? I suppose they're all for hunting, right?

Many people collect guns. They aren't for shooting Bambi or self defense, they're for shooting at the range and showing to your buddies. If the collector is responsible, they may well have a gun safe.


Several even ;-)
 
2012-11-29 02:13:12 PM

thornhill: If you think this sounds like a money-losing proposition, you're right. Cannon, the safe company, says that it charges $700 to ship its massive flagship safe, and considering all of the other heavy items in Amazon's inventory that qualify for "Super Saver" shipping, the costs add up for the online retailer. Amazon reported a $636 million loss on shipping costs alone last quarter, which boils down to a 1 percent loss per item. It's also no cake walk for the Amazon workers who have actually have to box this stuff up in the warehouse.

I wonder how much of that is an accounting game to minimize how much they have to pay in taxes.

I'd also love to know what percentage of Prime subscribers order so little that they (the consumer) loses money on Prime.


It may not be an accounting game; Amazon's margins are infinitesimal. Their profits are tiny considering their size.
 
2012-11-29 02:16:16 PM

whiteylexus: Who the fark needs to own 48 guns? I suppose they're all for hunting, right?


Someone who's already had sex with 48 different women?
 
2012-11-29 02:26:05 PM
just out of curiosity, how woould UPS deliver something like this to your house? Can the UPS guy conceivably drop it off on your front porch etc? Last I check UPS trucks don;t have dollys that can carry 1800 ibs.

Do they have to make a 'special' trip just to your house?
 
2012-11-29 03:14:35 PM
Never forget, when you buy a huge safe, you're telling all your neighbors you have stuff worth keeping in a huge safe.

My neighbor's cousin woke them up in the middle of the night, at gunpoint, and demanded the contents of their safe. I wouldn't get a safe unless I had a secret room. And if that were the case, I might opt for a girlfriend instead of a safe.
 
2012-11-29 04:17:21 PM

Dear Jerk: Never forget, when you buy a huge safe, you're telling all your neighbors you have stuff worth keeping in a huge safe.

My neighbor's cousin woke them up in the middle of the night, at gunpoint, and demanded the contents of their safe. I wouldn't get a safe unless I had a secret room. And if that were the case, I might opt for a girlfriend instead of a safe.


Gotta be awkward at their family reunions.
 
2012-11-29 04:19:19 PM
I got a plastic garden shed shipped overnight for $3.99. The FedEx guy was kind of elderly (contract owner/operator). I was kind, I helped him unload the shed.
 
2012-11-29 04:30:32 PM

SuperNinjaToad: just out of curiosity, how woould UPS deliver something like this to your house? Can the UPS guy conceivably drop it off on your front porch etc? Last I check UPS trucks don;t have dollys that can carry 1800 ibs.

Do they have to make a 'special' trip just to your house?


It would not be delivered by UPS or FedEx, it would have to go by truck freight.
 
2012-11-29 04:31:07 PM
I'd like to see the delivery guy throw that shiat over the fence.
 
2012-11-29 04:46:34 PM

cheap_thoughts: KAVORKA: It's more than $25 so shipping is free anyway -- Prime doesn't get you anything special except free shipping on things

Uh, you get free video service, much like netflix or hulu... But with a better selection.


If you're paying for something it isn't free.
 
2012-11-29 05:00:32 PM

junglegoddess: not5am: tricycleracer: Amazon executives insist that it all works out in the end. In the words of CEO Jeff Bezos, "It's not like we didn't do some arithmetic ahead of time."

And with that statement, Jeff Bezos was disqualified from ever running for President as a republican.

he and his wife pledged $2.5mm to a marriage equality group in washington state when a former employee asked hoping for a small donation.


insert sarcastic comment: Helena Handbasket: I recently ordered a mattress from Amazon, and the shipping was going to be $112. I paid for Amazon Prime, saved a little bit instantly, and have free shipping for a year. Plus I can add up to four people onto my Prime list, and they get free shipping too.It's a winner in my opinion.

WHHHHAT? I've had Prime forever and I had no idea!

yup. added my sister to my account when it became available, she loves it. it's a great idea too, keeps me subscribed as i feel like i'm getting my money's worth and gets additional business from my sister.

Does your sister live with you? I swear....I looked into this when I wanted to add my dad to my prime account, but all the information I read said he had to share my address.

That would be fantastic if I could.....but I wonder if it's a restriction with my student account....


No idea about the cheaper student accounts, but regular full-price Prime definitely lets you add people who live at an address other than your own... The only restriction is that they are supposed to be "related" to you... Of course, no one would ever lie and make up relationships with people, right?
 
2012-11-29 05:02:41 PM

Helena Handbasket: It would not be delivered by UPS or FedEx, it would have to go by truck freight.


FedEx offers that service. They have:

www.mexicoxport.com
for next day delivery,

www.utilimaster.com
for stuff that you aren't in a hurry for,

farm3.staticflickr.com
for time-specific deliveries,

and they have
farm3.staticflickr.com
for all of your safe-delivery needs.
 
2012-11-29 06:26:15 PM

NeverUseAbsolutes: redmid17: A guy I worked with ordered a water compressor that weighed 60-70 lbs and had it shipped 2 day via Amazon Prime. I thought that took the cake. I was clearly wrong.

I did not think you could compress water. Maybe you mean a pressure washer?


You can't actually make it smaller with any reasonable amount of pressure but you can pressurize it. Pressure washers are one reason to do that but there could be others.
 
2012-11-29 07:17:00 PM

SuperDuper28: Just need some Sarah Mclachlan background music as we're shown sad pictures of Amazon warehouse employees. After reading articles about those places this Summer it wouldn't me much of a stretch. Sorry, Amazon could give a free kitten with every order and it still won't unblock how inhumane they treat their warehouse workers.


The worst part is the shock collars that prevent the workers from leaving the warehouse and getting a job somewhere else.
 
2012-11-29 08:06:56 PM

puppetmaster745: SuperDuper28: Just need some Sarah Mclachlan background music as we're shown sad pictures of Amazon warehouse employees. After reading articles about those places this Summer it wouldn't me much of a stretch. Sorry, Amazon could give a free kitten with every order and it still won't unblock how inhumane they treat their warehouse workers.

The worst part is the shock collars that prevent the workers from leaving the warehouse and getting a job somewhere else.


Sensing someone who's never had to work at a crappy job before because they need a paycheck. Besides the point that saying if you don't like it leave doesn't treat the problem of Amazon locking their warehouse employees in a heat box while violating labor laws on top of it. But hey, free shipping!
 
2012-11-29 08:22:09 PM

Fish in a Barrel: texref: Plus, if someone robs you they are totally taking the safe along with your computer!

It's bolted to the floor.


Well, look who put on their fancy pants!

:)
 
2012-11-29 08:31:38 PM

thornhill: bmr68: Either FedEx Freight will deliver it or a contract delivery company. It will be left at the delivery door. They will not help you get it in the delivery location

Maybe, maybe not.

When I ordered my large screen TV through Amazon the shipping company they contracted with called me to setup a delivery time. Without asking they carried the TV to the second floor of my house, and even offered to help me remove it from the box.


Good deal for you. Most shippers want to avoid the liability hassle. Large freight is usually door to door.
 
2012-11-29 09:11:24 PM

SuperDuper28: puppetmaster745: SuperDuper28: Just need some Sarah Mclachlan background music as we're shown sad pictures of Amazon warehouse employees. After reading articles about those places this Summer it wouldn't me much of a stretch. Sorry, Amazon could give a free kitten with every order and it still won't unblock how inhumane they treat their warehouse workers.

The worst part is the shock collars that prevent the workers from leaving the warehouse and getting a job somewhere else.

Sensing someone who's never had to work at a crappy job before because they need a paycheck. Besides the point that saying if you don't like it leave doesn't treat the problem of Amazon locking their warehouse employees in a heat box while violating labor laws on top of it. But hey, free shipping!


Breaking labor laws? Why hasn't anyone called the labor po-po?

And yes, I have worked crappy jobs but I have never left myself in a position where I wasn't in a position to leave an abusive job.
 
2012-11-29 09:21:49 PM
Every article I've ever seen describing the conditions working in an Amazon shipping center seems to mirror the working conditions in any warehouse/shipping-receiving center ever.
Crappy warehouse jobs are crappy.
 
2012-11-29 09:44:49 PM

pudding7: Amazon Prime is some of the best money I've spent in a long time.


Amen. I love it.
 
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