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2012-11-29 10:48:01 AM  

Millennium: IamPatSajak: Well, I never though I would say this but that's a pretty cool gun safe.

It stores guns and doesn't afraid of anything?

In all seriousness, daaaamn. I don't even have any guns and I want that gun safe. I'm sure I can think of lots of things I could put in it.


You'll need to drill some air holes if you want to put the gimp in there.
 
2012-11-29 10:48:50 AM  

whiteylexus: Who the fark needs to own 48 guns? I suppose they're all for hunting, right?


Collectors.
It's easy for any hobby to get out of hand.

/be afraid of the guy that only "needs" one gun.
 
2012-11-29 10:54:45 AM  

H31N0US: Overstock delivers massive stuff for $3. Amazon prime is choice however. Just the free video alone is cheaper than Netflix.


CSB time about Overstock and their shipping:

I recently purchased two identical 50 lb nightstands for $250 each, free shipping on Overstock. When they arrived,the external boxes looked ok, but inside one was nearly destroyed, the other had a leg broken off (but was fixable). They had barely made the UPS weight restrictions and I assumed they had been stored improperly somewhere along the line (should have been palletized).

So I got ready for the huge hassle of shipping those beasts back...instead, Overstock said "just keep them at your house for a week, if UPS doesn't come by to examine them for damage claims, then you can throw them away. Your replacements will be there shortly."

/Now I have 3 nightstands for the price of two
 
2012-11-29 10:54:54 AM  
Prime is amazing! I just bought a set of new Xbox controller thumbpads for $3.75 with free shipping.
 
2012-11-29 10:55:24 AM  

Freudian_slipknot: groaning a half mile down the road with arms full of cleaning supplies.


Get one of these shipped to you free (does not even require Prime), then use it.
I've learned here on Fark that is will solve all your problems and be great for the earth too.

Solution
 
2012-11-29 10:55:39 AM  

way south: /be afraid of the guy that only "needs" one gun.


I don't know what it's called, I just know the sound it makes... when it takes a man's life.
 
2012-11-29 10:56:43 AM  

Outlawtsar: H31N0US: Overstock delivers massive stuff for $3. Amazon prime is choice however. Just the free video alone is cheaper than Netflix.

CSB time about Overstock and their shipping:

I recently purchased two identical 50 lb nightstands for $250 each, free shipping on Overstock. When they arrived,the external boxes looked ok, but inside one was nearly destroyed, the other had a leg broken off (but was fixable). They had barely made the UPS weight restrictions and I assumed they had been stored improperly somewhere along the line (should have been palletized).

So I got ready for the huge hassle of shipping those beasts back...instead, Overstock said "just keep them at your house for a week, if UPS doesn't come by to examine them for damage claims, then you can throw them away. Your replacements will be there shortly."

/Now I have 3 nightstands for the price of two


I'm glad some companies have realized that nickel and diming their customers is the easiest way to piss them off.
 
2012-11-29 10:58:00 AM  
My uncle got a gun safe on Amazon. Not that big, but it took 3 guys to deliver it and install it in his basement. They left it on a little pallet though.
 
2012-11-29 11:02:26 AM  

Millennium: IamPatSajak: Well, I never though I would say this but that's a pretty cool gun safe.

It stores guns and doesn't afraid of anything?

In all seriousness, daaaamn. I don't even have any guns and I want that gun safe. I'm sure I can think of lots of things I could put in it.


You can put your weed in there.
 
2012-11-29 11:02:51 AM  

bmr68: Either FedEx Freight will deliver it or a contract delivery company. It will be left at the delivery door. They will not help you get it in the delivery location


Maybe, maybe not.

When I ordered my large screen TV through Amazon the shipping company they contracted with called me to setup a delivery time. Without asking they carried the TV to the second floor of my house, and even offered to help me remove it from the box.
 
2012-11-29 11:03:07 AM  

BHShaman: please: The AR in the pic - free-float barrel and flat top but with an adjustable Magpul stock? Camo mag? Huh?

Could be Remington VTR.
The same company that owns Remington owns Magpul.


Magpul is independently owned. They sold the ACR to Remington for production.
 
2012-11-29 11:05:52 AM  

Bullseyed: My uncle got a gun safe on Amazon. Not that big, but it took 3 guys to deliver it and install it in his basement. They left it on a little pallet though.


I bought a 400 pounder. Not at Amazon though. The store loaded it in the back of my truck with a forklift, and me and a buddy used an appliance cart to move it into my basement. I left it on the pallet so that the bottom of the safe would be off the concrete. I'm told that the humidity will make it damp between the bottom of the safe and the floor and rust it out if it is in direct contact.
 
2012-11-29 11:06:10 AM  
If you think this sounds like a money-losing proposition, you're right. Cannon, the safe company, says that it charges $700 to ship its massive flagship safe, and considering all of the other heavy items in Amazon's inventory that qualify for "Super Saver" shipping, the costs add up for the online retailer. Amazon reported a $636 million loss on shipping costs alone last quarter, which boils down to a 1 percent loss per item. It's also no cake walk for the Amazon workers who have actually have to box this stuff up in the warehouse.

I wonder how much of that is an accounting game to minimize how much they have to pay in taxes.

I'd also love to know what percentage of Prime subscribers order so little that they (the consumer) loses money on Prime.
 
2012-11-29 11:06:42 AM  
I'd just buy the Cannon 48 gun safe from Costco for $800 with free shipping.
 
2012-11-29 11:08:36 AM  

whiteylexus: Who the fark needs to own 48 guns? I suppose they're all for hunting, right?


People who like guns.

Match grade semi-auto pistols in .22 and .45
Match grade revolvers in . 357 and .44
Regular use pistols in .22, .38, .357, .44 & .45
Black powder pistols in .32, .44, .54 & .58 in varying styles ranging from pepper boxes to single shot flintlocks

Match grade rifles in .22, .30-06, .300, 7mm
Hunting rifles in 7mm, .223, .30-06, .300
Black powder rifles in .44, .50, .54 .58

Shotguns in .410, 22 ga, 20ga, 18ga, 12ga, 10ga

Each of those rifles could easily double if you have them in both wood stocks and composite. Then you might get into antiques like the old .32-40. I'll inherit one of those. It's never failed to bring home a critter from a hunting trip. We call it Old Meat in the Pot.

Combined, the collections from grandpa, dad and myself the number of weapons will easily be over 100. One day I'll inherit all of them. Who needs 48 weapons? Only those who want them.
 
2012-11-29 11:09:32 AM  

RidgeRunner5:
Magpul is independently owned. They sold the ACR to Remington for production.


We're both close, though I was wrong the inference was strong.
ACR was sold to Freedom Group for license with Bushmaster (initially) and Remington (secondarily).
 
2012-11-29 11:12:24 AM  
I still have my $35/year Prime Student (even though I haven't been a student since last December). It's the best...at $79 a year, I don't know if it would be worthwhile to me, but until they catch on, I'll continue to order stuff I could really get at Walmart (vitamins, etc.), without the drive.
 
2012-11-29 11:14:08 AM  

CCCarnie: So they say that it's about $700 to ship the safe... That's normal shipping... But with Prime, it's 2-day shipping... And it's only a small fee to get next-day. Shipping through Fed-Ex Standard Next-Day is anywhere from $1.63 to $5.68 per pound depending on where it is being shipped... So at 1,672 pounds... That's $2725 to $9500 just to ship it... Which means Amazon would most likely be taking a big loss.


I'm fairly sure that Amazon is not paying UPS or Fed Ex anything near what you or I or the gun safe manufacturer would pay to ship the same item. It would actually be pretty interesting to see what they do pay per pound. I wonder if they pre-sort at the distribution center so they're ready to go to whatever airport beyond Louisville (UPS) or Memphis (FED EX)--it could be done if they had the unit load devices available.
 
2012-11-29 11:15:15 AM  

TNel: Prime is amazing! I just bought a set of new Xbox controller thumbpads for $3.75 with free shipping.


That's what I love about Prime: the small stuff. Before you had the option of over-paying at a brick and mortar store, or paying three times what the piece cost in shipping. It makes Amazon actually competitive with MonoPrice for cables. :-D
 
2012-11-29 11:15:38 AM  

Beerguy: whiteylexus: Who the fark needs to own 48 guns? I suppose they're all for hunting, right?

Who needs to own hundreds of bobbleheads?

Who needs to own hundreds of collector plates?


The correct answer is "No one," but God bless the folks who feel otherwise because they help drive the economy.

/Consume
 
2012-11-29 11:17:11 AM  

I May Be Crazy But...: whiteylexus: Who the fark needs to own 48 guns? I suppose they're all for hunting, right?

Many people collect guns. They aren't for shooting Bambi or self defense, they're for shooting at the range and showing to your buddies. If the collector is responsible, they may well have a gun safe.


This ,wifey and I are mulling about getting our license and buying a couple definitely getting a safe. The ones I want are not considered restricted here so I would only need a trigger lock but I would get a safe anyways so they don't get stolen.
I heard a good quote, Gun Control is like taking cars away from sober people so they don't DUI.
 
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2012-11-29 11:20:04 AM  
ain't gonna ship it to your front door. they'll plop it on the street and you'll pay big bucks to have someone place it in your home.
 
2012-11-29 11:24:33 AM  

MBZ321: I still have my $35/year Prime Student (even though I haven't been a student since last December). It's the best...at $79 a year, I don't know if it would be worthwhile to me, but until they catch on, I'll continue to order stuff I could really get at Walmart (vitamins, etc.), without the drive.


You are allowed 4 years on that rate then it gets bumped up to the more expensive rate.
 
2012-11-29 11:25:35 AM  

buzzcut73: CCCarnie: So they say that it's about $700 to ship the safe... That's normal shipping... But with Prime, it's 2-day shipping... And it's only a small fee to get next-day. Shipping through Fed-Ex Standard Next-Day is anywhere from $1.63 to $5.68 per pound depending on where it is being shipped... So at 1,672 pounds... That's $2725 to $9500 just to ship it... Which means Amazon would most likely be taking a big loss.

I'm fairly sure that Amazon is not paying UPS or Fed Ex anything near what you or I or the gun safe manufacturer would pay to ship the same item. It would actually be pretty interesting to see what they do pay per pound. I wonder if they pre-sort at the distribution center so they're ready to go to whatever airport beyond Louisville (UPS) or Memphis (FED EX)--it could be done if they had the unit load devices available.


I'm sure they contract with a smaller shipper for this, especially if they're going to try to get it to the customer within 2 or 3 days.
 
2012-11-29 11:26:36 AM  

ColSanders: Beerguy: whiteylexus: Who the fark needs to own 48 guns? I suppose they're all for hunting, right?

Who needs to own hundreds of bobbleheads?

Who needs to own hundreds of collector plates?

The correct answer is "No one," but God bless the folks who feel otherwise because they help drive the economy.

/Consume


Exactly my point.
 
2012-11-29 11:28:07 AM  

redmid17: A guy I worked with ordered a water compressor that weighed 60-70 lbs and had it shipped 2 day via Amazon Prime. I thought that took the cake. I was clearly wrong.


I did not think you could compress water. Maybe you mean a pressure washer?
 
2012-11-29 11:28:58 AM  

RickN99: X =


Beer?
 
2012-11-29 11:29:20 AM  

MBZ321: I still have my $35/year Prime Student (even though I haven't been a student since last December). It's the best...at $79 a year, I don't know if it would be worthwhile to me, but until they catch on, I'll continue to order stuff I could really get at Walmart (vitamins, etc.), without the drive.


If you're ordering a few things a month and using the streaming service, it's worth it. For the streaming service alone, you could easily calculate the value. It comes down to $6.58/month; then look at how many hours a month you use it.
 
2012-11-29 11:33:08 AM  

Helena Handbasket: I recently ordered a mattress from Amazon, and the shipping was going to be $112. I paid for Amazon Prime, saved a little bit instantly, and have free shipping for a year. Plus I can add up to four people onto my Prime list, and they get free shipping too.It's a winner in my opinion.


WHHHHAT? I've had Prime forever and I had no idea!
 
2012-11-29 11:34:22 AM  
Damn all these articles about how awesome amazon prime is just frustrates me because it reminds me about how much better the US version of Amazon is compared to the Canadian version. I mean the Canadian version of amazon doesn't have nearly the amount of stuff, they don't have prime, plus if you want a Kindle shipped to Canada you can only buy the basic reader versions.
 
2012-11-29 11:38:23 AM  
tricycleracer


Amazon executives insist that it all works out in the end. In the words of CEO Jeff Bezos, "It's not like we didn't do some arithmetic ahead of time."

And with that statement, Jeff Bezos was disqualified from ever running for President as a republican.

Because obamaths is the better maths.

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*looks like he's a "little" short.

lh6.googleusercontent.com
 
2012-11-29 11:39:24 AM  

whiteylexus: Who the fark needs to own 48 guns? I suppose they're all for hunting, right?


somebody that only has 47?
 
2012-11-29 11:40:33 AM  

carnifex2005: Fish in a Barrel: I did this with a Costco subscription. Their price on the safe was so low I saved about $100 by paying for a membership. It wasn't even a gun safe, although it is an awesome safe: QE5541 Fire Safe. It has a USB pass-through so you can put a USB hard drive inside and read/write to it from outside the safe. It sits in my office next to the computer, and I use the protected drive as my backup location.

That's a pretty damn good idea.


Yup. I've got a much smaller thing rather like it--fire defense only, no burglar protection. 750gb online and yet in a fire-rated box.

whiteylexus: Who the fark needs to own 48 guns? I suppose they're all for hunting, right?


That many guns either means a gun store or a collector.
 
2012-11-29 11:44:11 AM  

Millennium: The Decider: In all seriousness, daaaamn. I don't even have any guns and I want that gun safe. I'm sure I can think of lots of things I could put in it.

Never forget, when you buy a huge safe, you're telling all your neighbors you have stuff worth keeping in a huge safe.

It's not like I intend to advertise the fact or anything.


This x 10 to the cubed power
 
2012-11-29 11:46:11 AM  

JackieRabbit: And they say the FedEx guy might not hate you forever. Certainly he won't because FedEx would never deliver this safe. Their max wight is 150 lbs for business and 75 lbs for home delivery.


FedEx Freight routinly brings me pallets of stuff weighing over 150 lbs.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-11-29 11:47:11 AM  
Who the fark needs to own 48 guns? I suppose they're all for hunting, right?

I was reading the Red Cross report on customary international law and the American response. Red Cross says international law bans exploding bullets for antipersonnel use in both international and non-international conflicts. US says the ban is only applicable to international conflicts, and is imposed by treaty rather than custom. The reason we don't have exploding bullets for use against rebels and such is supply chain convenience. We aren't going to stock 48 kinds of ammunition for 48 different kinds of wars.

("International" has a technical meaning in international law. Literally, between two or more nations. Not between a nation and a rebel group.)

TFA: Amazon reported a $636 million loss on shipping costs alone last quarter, which boils down to a 1 percent loss per item.

As long as their profit margin (for Amazon products) or commission (for third party products sold through Amazon) is over 1%, the free shipping leaves the sales profitable.
 
2012-11-29 11:48:22 AM  

whiteylexus: Who the fark needs to own 48 guns? I suppose they're all for hunting, right?


0/Boil em..... Mash em.... Stick em in a stew.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-11-29 11:50:50 AM  
FedEx Freight routinly brings me pallets of stuff weighing over 150 lbs.

Around 2000 I bought a computer on ebay from somebody who assumed a big Unix workstation must be going to a business. I got a delivery service truck and driver with a 100+ pound pallet who expected a loading dock rather than a residence.
 
2012-11-29 11:52:31 AM  
My good on Amazon story: last week I bought a pair of those stupidly expensive noise-cancelling headphones made by Bose. (I probably use my headphones 45-55 hours a week, so I don't mind splurging as long as they'll last for a year or more.) I got 'em home and plugged them in and ... ugh. The noise-cancelling effect made me feel like my ears needed to pop constantly. It gave me a headache. Of course, with the package already opened I figured I was SOL, so I called Bose (they're generally pretty good with customer service) and tried to initiate an exchange, but they gave me the runaround, asked for vendor order number, etc.

So I got on Amazon customer service chat and explained the problem, that I needed the order number and instead the rep offered a refund. I blinked, then explained I'd opened the box, and he said no problem. The 350 bucks was back in my account before the return had even arrived back at their warehouse.
 
2012-11-29 11:53:05 AM  

whiteylexus: Who the fark needs to own 48 guns? I suppose they're all for hunting, right?


You can't ACTUALLY put 48 guns in there.

"X gun capacity" means there's slots for X number of guns. Unless they're all fairly compact rifles (no scopes, no pistol grips, etc.), you aren't putting that many in there. Not going to fit. For example, an AR-15 will probably take up at least a couple of those spaces, maybe more.

As for "need," well, I don't sit in judgment over what you own. We don't NEED anything more than food, shelter, clothing, and occasional medical care. You can get all that in jail but I don't think most people really want that kind of life.


As for the safe in TFA, it doesn't look like as good a safe as one might think. It looks like it has an internal hinge- that limits the swing of the door while also being much more difficult to repair (which will be needed... doors are very heavy and internal hinges tend not to last long with that kind of weight. It IS cheaper, though, and that's why they're used.

I have a couple decent safes (of higher quality than that one... it has gizmos, but the money is in the gizmos and not where it really counts), and they were NOT cheap. But they'll protect what is inside. A really good burglar can still defeat them, but my neighbors are likely to hear all the hammering that it's going to take.
 
2012-11-29 11:55:35 AM  

Freudian_slipknot: I have an Amazon Prime membership specifically for this stuff.

I live in the city and walk to do my errands like grocery shopping. I'm currently living alone so carrying a week's worth of food home isn't a big deal with a backpack.

However, I also live with a dog and a cat. And there's no way I'd be able to manage carting home a 40 lb box of cat litter, a 30 lb bag of cat food and a 40 lb bag of dog food all on my own.

So Amazon Prime to the rescue. Buy almost all of my nonperishable items that way these days. Running down to the doorman and taking the elevator up is so much better than panting and groaning a half mile down the road with arms full of cleaning supplies.


They used to do super saver shipping on the food my two dogs eat. I was ordering a big bag a month, since I was willing to plan a week in advance to not have to drive 20 min each way just to get to a pet store. Then they figured out that wasn't a money maker.

\I did feel bad for my FedEx lady, but she was always still her chipper self.
 
2012-11-29 11:56:44 AM  

tricycleracer: Amazon executives insist that it all works out in the end. In the words of CEO Jeff Bezos, "It's not like we didn't do some arithmetic ahead of time."

And with that statement, Jeff Bezos was disqualified from ever running for President as a republican.


he and his wife pledged $2.5mm to a marriage equality group in washington state when a former employee asked hoping for a small donation.


insert sarcastic comment: Helena Handbasket: I recently ordered a mattress from Amazon, and the shipping was going to be $112. I paid for Amazon Prime, saved a little bit instantly, and have free shipping for a year. Plus I can add up to four people onto my Prime list, and they get free shipping too.It's a winner in my opinion.

WHHHHAT? I've had Prime forever and I had no idea!


yup. added my sister to my account when it became available, she loves it. it's a great idea too, keeps me subscribed as i feel like i'm getting my money's worth and gets additional business from my sister.
 
2012-11-29 11:56:52 AM  
I recently ordered a 72 inch rolling tool cabinet that weight close to 1000 pounds. I ordered it online on a Friday and was delivered and was delivered a week later for free. Shipped from Kansas City, MO to Buffalo. For Free!. This sucker is HUGE I tell ya HUGE!!


Now I need more tools, LOL!
 
2012-11-29 11:57:15 AM  
I have prime, and it's saved me Tons on shipping. The biggest thing I've used it for so far was a 65" Plasma TV. Free shipping, and got it in 2 days.
 
2012-11-29 12:00:50 PM  

NeverUseAbsolutes: redmid17: A guy I worked with ordered a water compressor that weighed 60-70 lbs and had it shipped 2 day via Amazon Prime. I thought that took the cake. I was clearly wrong.

I did not think you could compress water. Maybe you mean a pressure washer?


It's for dehydrated water
 
2012-11-29 12:01:55 PM  
You put your weed in there.

/Obscure?
 
2012-11-29 12:04:58 PM  

not5am: tricycleracer: Amazon executives insist that it all works out in the end. In the words of CEO Jeff Bezos, "It's not like we didn't do some arithmetic ahead of time."

And with that statement, Jeff Bezos was disqualified from ever running for President as a republican.

he and his wife pledged $2.5mm to a marriage equality group in washington state when a former employee asked hoping for a small donation.


insert sarcastic comment: Helena Handbasket: I recently ordered a mattress from Amazon, and the shipping was going to be $112. I paid for Amazon Prime, saved a little bit instantly, and have free shipping for a year. Plus I can add up to four people onto my Prime list, and they get free shipping too.It's a winner in my opinion.

WHHHHAT? I've had Prime forever and I had no idea!

yup. added my sister to my account when it became available, she loves it. it's a great idea too, keeps me subscribed as i feel like i'm getting my money's worth and gets additional business from my sister.


Does your sister live with you? I swear....I looked into this when I wanted to add my dad to my prime account, but all the information I read said he had to share my address.

That would be fantastic if I could.....but I wonder if it's a restriction with my student account....

My good on Amazon story: I have no idea where the warehouse is that services Georgia, but over the past few months there have been several things I've gotten in a day instead of two. A freaking day. The one time I had an issue with an order, their customer service chat fixed it. When I emailed them asking about a problem with the instant video, not only did I get an email right away, but they followed up weeks later to make sure everything was still cool.

/Prime is one of the best annual services I pay for
//will happily keep it when my student account expires and the price doubles
 
2012-11-29 12:14:48 PM  

junglegoddess: not5am: tricycleracer: Amazon executives insist that it all works out in the end. In the words of CEO Jeff Bezos, "It's not like we didn't do some arithmetic ahead of time."

And with that statement, Jeff Bezos was disqualified from ever running for President as a republican.

he and his wife pledged $2.5mm to a marriage equality group in washington state when a former employee asked hoping for a small donation.


insert sarcastic comment: Helena Handbasket: I recently ordered a mattress from Amazon, and the shipping was going to be $112. I paid for Amazon Prime, saved a little bit instantly, and have free shipping for a year. Plus I can add up to four people onto my Prime list, and they get free shipping too.It's a winner in my opinion.

WHHHHAT? I've had Prime forever and I had no idea!

yup. added my sister to my account when it became available, she loves it. it's a great idea too, keeps me subscribed as i feel like i'm getting my money's worth and gets additional business from my sister.

Does your sister live with you? I swear....I looked into this when I wanted to add my dad to my prime account, but all the information I read said he had to share my address.

That would be fantastic if I could.....but I wonder if it's a restriction with my student account....

My good on Amazon story: I have no idea where the warehouse is that services Georgia, but over the past few months there have been several things I've gotten in a day instead of two. A freaking day. The one time I had an issue with an order, their customer service chat fixed it. When I emailed them asking about a problem with the instant video, not only did I get an email right away, but they followed up weeks later to make sure everything was still cool.

/Prime is one of the best annual services I pay for
//will happily keep it when my student account expires and the price doubles


If you get prime for cheap because of Student then no you can not do this.
 
2012-11-29 12:15:56 PM  

whiteylexus: Who the fark needs to own 48 guns? I suppose they're all for hunting, right?


Who the fark needs to own 48 pairs of shoes? I guess they're all for walking, right?
 
2012-11-29 12:17:08 PM  

junglegoddess: I wonder if it's a restriction with my student account....


it probably is, i have a regular account. pretty sure all the special/discounted account don't get the full benefits of a regular account.

as for shipping, it all depends on how close the shipping center is from you. if you're close and it's shipped by amazon, you'll get it next day regardless of shipping time.
 
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