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2012-11-29 12:32:56 AM  
Makes white trash and thugs so easy to identify, good for them!
 
2012-11-29 12:56:52 AM  
i know people with perfectly behaved pit bulls.

they're not punk ass motherfarkers who get dogs to look tough, so the dogs are treated well and thus well behaved
 
2012-11-29 12:57:23 AM  

bob_ross: Makes white trash and thugs so easy to identify, good for them!


Oh shush. Pit bulls are perfectly normal pets.
 
2012-11-29 12:58:45 AM  

FishyFred: bob_ross: Makes white trash and thugs so easy to identify, good for them!

Oh shush. Pit bulls are perfectly normal pets.


I was talking about the owners.
 
2012-11-29 01:59:36 AM  

FishyFred: bob_ross: Makes white trash and thugs so easy to identify, good for them!

Oh shush. Pit bulls are perfectly normal pets.


Right. That's why these shelter pits need special training to make them "more adoptable." Meaning they won't tear your face off until you get them home.
 
2012-11-29 03:08:06 AM  
I hate pit bulls.

A pack of three attacked my lazy, harmless, tabby cat.

I managed to break up the fight within a few seconds, but the cat suffered several lacerations and broken bones. She did not deserve that.

I got her stitched up and she's fine now. It was unexpected. She's a homebody who rarely wants out.

I keep a 12 gauge handy now. If there's another attack, I won't be running the dogs off.
 
2012-11-29 03:13:05 AM  
Anyone who wants to write off pit bulls as a bad breed as a whole probably doesn't have a lot of experience with the breed.

The only pits that I've met that were vicious were raised for fighting, and if it weren't for the owner's friends being at the house I would have socked him in his face in no time flat. I still to this day wish I could lay him out.

Every other Pibble I've met has been an adorable mushball. Same with Rottweilers.
 
2012-11-29 05:22:24 AM  
My friend has two pitbulls, and one time, I had to ride in the back seat of her truck with one of the monsters. And do you know what the evil face eating creature did? It laid down, put its head on my lap, and took a nap!!!! A freaking nap I tell you! I was terrified for my life. At any moment the foul beast of hell could have sat up and possibly licked my face! Hell, it might have even stuck its nose at the window to breath in the air. The horror. The horror.
 
2012-11-29 05:24:16 AM  
Hey now! Properly trained and socialized pit bulls are great dogs.

Also, half the dogs you think are pit bulls aren't.

/ dogs are better people than people
 
2012-11-29 05:26:20 AM  
Some breeds are just more aggressive, stronger, and more likely to attack than others.

That's not an indictment of the breed. There are many members of the breed that are perfectly peaceful and unlikely to hurt a fly. Some of them are my best friends.
 
2012-11-29 05:32:08 AM  
 
HBK
2012-11-29 05:33:25 AM  

L.D. Ablo: I got her stitched up and she's fine now. It was unexpected. She's a homebody who rarely wants out.

I keep a 12 gauge handy now. If there's another attack, I won't be running the dogs off.


You're going to shoot a 12 gauge in the direction of your cat?
 
2012-11-29 05:35:01 AM  
Most "pitbulls" are not 100% pitbull in the first place
 
2012-11-29 05:35:32 AM  
I have a British bulldog/Pit bull cross we got from a rescue centre, she was bred to fight however disappointed the breeder by severely licking everyone and everything, she is a squat 6 stone dog who could tear your face off if she wanted but prefers to high five you and look embarrassed when caught eating her brothers food.
 
2012-11-29 05:37:23 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Most "pitbulls" are not 100% pitbull in the first place


NTTAWWT
 
2012-11-29 05:38:00 AM  
The 2nd amendment guarantees my right to own an assault dog.

/Unfortunately what I got was a heavy floor rug that eats expensive food, snores louder than me, and only barks at birds...
/If you want a dog that attacks people, get a chow chow.
 
2012-11-29 05:38:38 AM  
Try telling my homeowner's insurance or HOA. Both have specific clauses dealing with "vicious breeds." My freakin' Siamese is more evil than 90% of every animal on Earth. Even when warned, fools put their hands near his mouth because "he's so beautiful, he wouldn't hurt a fly." He gets a pass, while the butt-wigglin', eager to please, would take a bullet for my kid dog is a menace and needs to be banned from decent society.

Love my cat, but I want a dog, dammit.
 
2012-11-29 05:50:30 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: FishyFred: bob_ross: Makes white trash and thugs so easy to identify, good for them!

Oh shush. Pit bulls are perfectly normal pets.

Right. That's why these shelter pits need special training to make them "more adoptable." Meaning they won't tear your face off until you get them home.


First off, there's no such breed as "pit bull" It's one of several breeds of bull dog. Second, the special training is there because most "pit bulls" are bought by small dicked farktards like Michael Vick who treat them horrifically and train them to be mean. When a person is abused for years and then lashes out, they're also sent to a shelter with specialty staff. Does that mean all people are inherently as violent as the outliers?
 
2012-11-29 05:52:36 AM  
We have a pit mix rescue. He is a mushball that suffers from separation anxiety.
/pic of said mushball in profile
 
2012-11-29 05:53:30 AM  
There are two sorts of dogs I'd like to have, Corgis and Australian Blues. But only in pairs or trios, and if I had a yard.

I briefly had a dog when I was a child, but I don't remember much of it because we moved to an apartment when my parents walked out of a house in the mid 80's and moved for work. By the time we had a backyard again my dad was being treated for his skin problems stemming from allergies that included dog.

My apartment complex is full of pit bull owners. And the only complaint I have about the upstairs pit bull is that it walks heavy.
 
2012-11-29 05:53:54 AM  
Once, a pitbull stole my identity and used it to get financing for a full set of Swarofski crystal Christmas swans. Effed up, man. I know.
 
2012-11-29 05:56:50 AM  

Kazan: i know people with perfectly behaved pit bulls.

they're not punk ass motherfarkers who get dogs to look tough, so the dogs are treated well and thus well behaved


Some of the most gentle and relaxed dogs that I know are pit bulls. My wife is a vet tech, and she says that pit bulls are easy to work with because they will let you do anything to them without getting upset. And those few that she does see that are aggressive are absolutely obvious about it. IF you know how to read doggies. Those that have been aggressive, many have shown signs of dog fighting, or other abuse. The problem is that they are incredibly powerful animals. A bite from an evil little chihuahua isn't likely to cause much damage. A pit on the other hand can kill.
The evil little dogs that go from nice to trying to rip your face off with out warning are chihuahua's, toy poodles, and dachshund's. They get a muzzle automatically when they walk in the door.

I'll admit that one of the problems is those people who try to rehabilitate a pit bull that has been aggressive and unpredictable. These are the people who don't believe that any animal should ever be put down. Unfortunately, once a pit bull has shown that it's aggressive, the only safe thing to do is put it down. I've seen dogs that went years between bites, that lost it out of the blue and bit someone or another pet. These are powerful and potentially dangerous animals. If they show signs of being aggressive or unpredictable, they can rarely be rehabilitated.
 
2012-11-29 06:00:00 AM  

Dafodude: Anyone who wants to write off pit bulls as a bad breed as a whole probably doesn't have a lot of experience with the breed.

The only pits that I've met that were vicious were raised for fighting, and if it weren't for the owner's friends being at the house I would have socked him in his face in no time flat. I still to this day wish I could lay him out.

Every other Pibble I've met has been a dumb, adorable mushball. Same with Rottweilers.


FTFY

/Love mine to death, but gods he is dumb.
//The cat chases him.
 
2012-11-29 06:02:10 AM  

cherryl taggart: butt-wigglin', eager to please, would take a bullet for my kid dog.


This.
 
2012-11-29 06:02:55 AM  
i.imgur.com

Here is another vicious breed. Doesn't she just look like terror incarnate, folks? 



/She wouldn't hurt a fly.
 
2012-11-29 06:09:27 AM  

L.D. Ablo: I keep a 12 gauge handy now. If there's another attack, I won't be running the dogs off.


Putting the cat out of it's misery too at the same time? That's efficient.
 
2012-11-29 06:10:47 AM  

I'm an Egyptian!: Dafodude: Anyone who wants to write off pit bulls as a bad breed as a whole probably doesn't have a lot of experience with the breed.

The only pits that I've met that were vicious were raised for fighting, and if it weren't for the owner's friends being at the house I would have socked him in his face in no time flat. I still to this day wish I could lay him out.

Every other Pibble I've met has been a dumb, adorable mushball. Same with Rottweilers.

FTFY

/Love mine to death, but gods he is dumb.
//The cat chases him.


Mine too. Dumb as a box of rocks and also regularly abused by the cat (she seems to think they are playing. The cat holds no such misconception).

Watch out for the derpstorm!

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2012-11-29 06:13:51 AM  
Just remember folks, your homeowners insurance, or HOA may have restrictions on what kinds of dogs you can have. Nothing causes heartbreak like adopting a sweet and adorable dog, only to be forced to give them up. You can get homeowners insurance that's OK with you having a pit, but it will cost you. HOA's one the other hand can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop, ever. Until you are forced to get rid of your dog.

/and don't even think about painting your fence another color
 
2012-11-29 06:17:32 AM  
Pitbulls are incredibly sweet dogs, in general. Great temperament, very very loyal (which is where they've sometimes been called aggressive because they've been protecting their owner).

I have a whippet cross staffordshire (another breed often labelled "devil dogs"!), and she's so sweet and enthusiastic and adorable it's pathetic. She can run very very fast (when she wants to. She is very lazy. She has decided today is a cold day, and is therefore not moving.) 

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2012-11-29 06:24:35 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Right. That's why these shelter pits need special training to make them "more adoptable."


To be fair, any dog can benefit from training, not just pit bulls. Dogs- much like children- need structure and boundaries. Unlike children, they will never grow up and never internalize an understanding of ethics. No dog 'knows right from wrong'. They know what's allowed and what isn't. If you don't clue them in, they do as they would. They are animals and don't know any damn better.

When people forget this (or simply don't give a crap about it) is when you tend to have problems.

Been bit by large dogs twice, and each time human stupidity was at fault. First time was my own- though I was ten or so, so there you go- doing hurdles over strange dogs isn't very bright.. The second time was someone else's stupidity. When you get a brand new dog, it's never very smart to then put it on a leash out in front of a store where lots of cars and people are going by constantly.

Probably especially not a good move when it's shortly after you've stumbled into the parking lot after your van broke down on a cold night. You're nervous, the dog's nervous, doesn't know anyone around it, and oh hey, it reacts aggressively. Big surprise, right? I mean, it was only lunging at every car or person that went by, how were you supposed to know what was going to happen by continuing to stand there with it?

I've owned many dogs in my life, big and small, and every time I see this is the owner whom I feel could benefit from several weeks in a kennel. If nothing else it might tech them a thing or two about how dogs behave.
 
2012-11-29 06:27:00 AM  

BigBooper: The evil little dogs that go from nice to trying to rip your face off with out warning are chihuahua's, toy poodles, and dachshund's. They get a muzzle automatically when they walk in the door.


My dachshund mix is incredibly mouthy. He rarely puts any pressure behind it and from his long history of shredding tennis balls, he definitely can exert pressure if he wants to. He does love to nibble on my fingers when I''m petting him. Does your wife know why some dogs are so insistent on doing that?

The main problem are the incredibly thick claws he has. I can't let him in my lap unless I have jeans on lest my legs end up bloody. He loves to basically just get in my lap and turn around in circles over and over and over ad infinitum. he doesn't mean to hurt you, but those claws are incredibl stout..

My neighbor's pit bull, on the other hand, is just the sweetest girl in the world. Rub her belly and she will be your friend for life.
 
2012-11-29 06:29:29 AM  

BigBooper: The problem is that they are incredibly powerful animals. A bite from an evil little chihuahua isn't likely to cause much damage. A pit on the other hand can kill.


Yep. Any dog above about 30 pounds can kill you if it gets lucky. Chihuahuas are normally below 30 pounds. Pitbulls are generally above 30 pounds. Therefore chihuahuas will have a hard time killing you. Pitbulls, german shepherds, rottweilers, beagles, basset hounds, greyhounds, standard size poodles, and even a large whippet has a chance to kill you, if it's so inclined.

Thanks for sharing your wisdom with us.
 
2012-11-29 06:31:01 AM  
We have two pit mixes. Maggie is pit/heeler. She's a great dog.
We also have a pit/chihuahua pup (Trixie...cause she's short and reminds me of those tricksie Hobbitses)). She could go either way. Half of her is a violent breed prone to attack, and have pit. She's only 7 weeks, so we'll have to wait to see how she looks.
It'll be interesting to be sure.

/Most of the pits I've known were more prone to be dog aggressive than people aggressive.
 
2012-11-29 06:31:17 AM  

Dafodude: Anyone who wants to write off pit bulls as a bad breed as a whole probably doesn't have a lot of experience with the breed.

The only pits that I've met that were vicious were raised for fighting, and if it weren't for the owner's friends being at the house I would have socked him in his face in no time flat. I still to this day wish I could lay him out.

Every other Pibble I've met has been an adorable mushball. Same with Rottweilers.


This. Historically they were called Nanny Dogs because parents got them to babysit their children. Google Nanny Dogs. It's adorable.

/own 1, and fostering 1
 
2012-11-29 06:31:20 AM  
One of my friends in high school had a terrifying pit bull. Every farking time we got stoned, that dog would try to jump in our laps. God damn thing was like 55 pounds of muscle and bone. Shiat hurt, yo.
 
2012-11-29 06:35:58 AM  
Best retrieving dog I ever saw while dove hunting was a pit bull.

Own a pit-mutt now. Good dog.
 
2012-11-29 06:42:48 AM  

Earpj: We have two pit mixes. Maggie is pit/heeler. She's a great dog.
We also have a pit/chihuahua pup (Trixie...cause she's short and reminds me of those tricksie Hobbitses)). She could go either way. Half of her is a violent breed prone to attack, and havehalf pit. She's only 7 weeks, so we'll have to wait to see how she looks.
It'll be interesting to be sure.

/Most of the pits I've known were more prone to be dog aggressive than people aggressive.


/FTFM
//So much for preview
 
2012-11-29 06:49:04 AM  
Just picked up a rescue dog a few months back, and was shocked that more than 1/2 of the dogs in the pound were of "pit bull mix"...

Is the breed that pervasive? The pup I picked was listed as a "Jack Russell mix" but, seeing pit bull features in her already.

Thinking we're going to be overwhelmed with ghetto ponies before too long...
 
2012-11-29 06:50:32 AM  

HBK: L.D. Ablo: I got her stitched up and she's fine now. It was unexpected. She's a homebody who rarely wants out.

I keep a 12 gauge handy now. If there's another attack, I won't be running the dogs off.

You're going to shoot a 12 gauge in the direction of your cat?


Came here to say that. You really want to use a rifle for that job.
 
2012-11-29 06:52:09 AM  

Dafodude: Anyone who wants to write off pit bulls as a bad breed as a whole probably doesn't have a lot of experience with the breed.


I don't have a lot of experience with raising rattlesnakes, but I know I don't want one of them for a pet either.
 
2012-11-29 06:58:49 AM  
Came here to say that. You really want to use a rifle for that job.

or a halberd
 
2012-11-29 06:58:58 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Right. That's why these shelter pits need special training to make them "more adoptable." Meaning they won't tear your face off until you get them home


The "special training" isn't to make them not aggressive. Most shelter dogs are adoptable but don't have any training. What you adopt is what you get. In the case of these pit bulls, when potential adopters interact with them and see that they're already trained to sit, come, not jump on you, listen to you, are housetrained, etc., who wouldn't want to adopt em? It's just to give them an edge over other dogs.
 
2012-11-29 07:10:48 AM  
Funny thing is, most pit bulls are not naturally aggressive to humans, but to other dogs. That is what they were bred for.... killing other dogs. While it's true that having a pit in a home with other animals -may- be difficult, they are only aggressive to humans if they have been abused or trained to be so.

That said, I still do not like the breed as a personal choice, and not on their record. I don't have the mindset or time to properly condition such a breed.

But I think that anyone that gets a dog, needs to be able to spend time and attention trying to make that dog loved. You can't just get a dog, and then ignore it and then wonder why it's got issues. I mean, you basically are adopting a child when you get a dog. And it's amazing how many behavioral rules of one applies to the other.
 
2012-11-29 07:12:25 AM  
I've got a shelter dog. She's responsible for all of the joy in my life -- with her, with finding me my wife, with getting two non-furry kids. She's not a pit bull.

And once in the line of my job I had to go out to where fighting dogs were kept. One pitbull, her ear still bloody from where it had been ripped in half maybe a few days before, just wanted to be petted and to love me back. It was heartbreaking.

Here's my beef with pit bulls from the animal shelters:
1) I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with the breed
2) A lot of douchebags train them to be mean
3) I don't know if a shelter pit was trained to be mean, or was raised by a loving family, but, statistically, I know they're more likely than others.
4) I don't want to introduce a big, strong, potentially dangerous dog to a house with two neurotic dogs and two kids.

Find my a little old lady getting forced to give up her beloved pit bull because they're moving into a nursing home? Sure, I'll take it if we can take another dog.

It's not the breed I'm worried about, but what the douchebag humans in the dog's past have done.
 
2012-11-29 07:16:48 AM  
I see ... since this is a thread about how NICE they are, Pitbulls exist.

When one mauls someone's Oma, suddenly "there's no such breed." Gotcha.
 
2012-11-29 07:20:46 AM  

bob_ross: Makes white trash and thugs so easy to identify, good for them!


Yeah, because they're SO hard to pick out otherwise...
 
2012-11-29 07:22:18 AM  
I know some people who have pit bulls, theyre too high strung. You couldnt pay me to keep a pit bull.

They're strong little bastards & its ALWAYS "go-time" 24/7 that thing is wired for sound & tearing through the house.

Its like living with a tiny body builder who has an unlimited supply of redbull.
 
2012-11-29 07:29:32 AM  
DogsBite.org, a national dog bite victims' group dedicated to reducing serious dog attacks, releases its first multi-year report on U.S. dog bite fatalities. The report covers a 3-year period -- from January 1, 2006 to December 31, 2008 -- and analyzes data gathered from 88 dog bite incidences that caused death to a U.S. citizen.

The report documents dog breed information, property information (where the attack occurred) as well as dog bite victim age information.

Of the 88 fatal dog attacks recorded by DogsBite.org, pit bull type dogs were responsible for 59% (52). This is equivalent to a pit bull killing a U.S. citizen every 21 days during this 3-year period. The data also shows that pit bulls commit the vast majority of off-property attacks that result in death.

Only 18% (16) of the attacks occurred off owner property, yet pit bulls were responsible for 81% (13) of those attacks.

Pit bulls are also more likely to kill an adult than a child. In the 3-year period, pit bulls killed more adults (ages 21 and over), 54%, than they did children (ages 11 and younger), 46%.

In the 21-54 age group, pit bulls were responsible for 82% (14) of the deaths. The data indicates that pit bulls do not only kill children and senior citizens; they kill men and women in their prime years as well.

The report also shows that of the six victim age groups documented, the 55 and older group suffered the most fatalities 26% (23), followed by the 2-4 age group 22% (19). Between the ages of 0-4, the study reveals that 14% (12) of the fatal attacks involved a "watcher," a person such as a grandparent or babysitter watching the child. Of these attacks, 75% (9) involved a grandparent type.

The founder of DogsBite.org, Colleen Lynn, adds, "The off-property statistical data about pit bulls shows just how dangerous they are." She noted that six senior citizens were killed under these circumstances: "Two were killed while standing in their own backyard," she said. "Four others were killed while taking a morning walk or getting the mail."

/just sayin'...
//plus, that brainless, high-strung, miniature yip dog next door may bite more often, but even a pack of 5 of them could not drag you under a car and dismember you... a couple of pit bulls OTOH..
 
2012-11-29 07:32:04 AM  

way south: chow


Or an Akita.
 
2012-11-29 07:36:55 AM  
Worked with shelters for years and wouldn't condone rumors and misconceptions about them but studies and established facts tell us two things. They bite more than other dogs (okay blame bad owners, statistically speaking that still means the majority of dogs in shelters are likely from the kind of home that wanted them to act aggressively) AND when they do bite its always much more damaging than the bites of other dogs. The sad truth is from a biological perspective they are built for fighting.

Are there nice ones that are harmless? Yes. Are there nice ones that snap and try to eat kids or pets? Yes. Are there more of these issues among this mix of breeds than any other? Yes.

Don't blindly defend them, thats as bad as the people who hang around wolf hybrids and claim they are also completely harmless. Every "breed" is unique both physiologically and in personality and temperament.

These are still animals at the end of the day and you can't predict what goes on in their head. In all my years working with shelters I've only been bitten once, by a 15 pound dog.. .it hurt but that was it, no blood. Reality is you have to be honest with what the dogs are capable of and educate people accordingly. Yes you can adopt Poofie. Yes she came from a broken home and was abused. Yes we think she is rehabilitated and plays regularly with kids but is aggressive towards cats. No we won't promise you that she won't snap at you, much like any other dog at some point. And be aware that her bite will do a hell of a lot more damage than your Greyhound or Collie could...
 
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