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2012-11-29 01:21:34 AM  

HotWingAgenda: this goes back to the American concept of fashion as a source of role models. No one wants coke-snorting anorexics to be displayed as a role model


Wait, coke-snorting anorexics are not the norm on runways?

/ Confused
 
2012-11-29 01:23:39 AM  

biatchqueen: //fat and big-boned.
//however, very strong


Strong like bull! That what man want!

/ Some men
// I should give them your number
 
2012-11-29 01:26:02 AM  

biatchqueen: Maybe if you like starving all day long every day. I don't remember exactly though. I think it had something to do with the body being incapable of converting fat to energy due to a defect. Like diabetes being linked to defects toward converting sugars to energy.

Usually it's tied to thyroid issues- however anything in the metabolic path can screw up and cause issues- My hypothesis is some bodies are geared to "store ALL THE FOOD" whereas some use it all.

But yes, it can happen. Note: if the fat is distributed on the gut heaviest of all, that can be a thyroid indicator. All over? Laziness/overeating, etc.

//fat and big-boned.
//however, very strong


It's amazing how all those POWs in WWII didn't have thyroid problems and genetic magic fairy weight gain.

It's almost as if when placed on a strict enough diet, your body loses weight regardless of your genetics and your omg-its-not-me-its-my-thyroid problems.

It is not rocket science. Eat less, keep doing so, exercise more, and when you find your correct caloric intake you *will* lose weight. Get to your correct weight, eat slightly more, maintain the exercise, and you will *not* gain a single pound back.
 
2012-11-29 01:26:43 AM  
The reasons for fatties have nothing to do with the article. There are fat people, they need clothes, companies want their business. The end.
 
2012-11-29 01:29:50 AM  
It's not just thin folks creeped out by those.
 
2012-11-29 01:30:45 AM  

jaytkay: Subby is upset that Botero-like mannequins are not the norm?


That looks like Honey Boo Boo
 
2012-11-29 01:33:46 AM  

jaytkay: HotWingAgenda: this goes back to the American concept of fashion as a source of role models. No one wants coke-snorting anorexics to be displayed as a role model

Wait, coke-snorting anorexics are not the norm on runways?

/ Confused


I said no one wants them to be.
 
2012-11-29 01:36:05 AM  

meat0918: I don't care if they have fat mannequins in the fat section.

I just wish they had clothes that fit me.

I have long arms and a skinny torso. Medium long short sleeved shirts fit me sometimes, large tall long sleeved fit me sometimes but not. XL and I'm swimming in them, but at least the sleeves are long enough.

WTFs a guy to do?  Go shirtless?


I'm guessing you look like a before picture.

www.straighterline.com
 
2012-11-29 01:38:19 AM  
I was searching for fat mannequin pics and found this one. Image name is everything :D
 
2012-11-29 01:38:39 AM  

anfrind: Samwise Gamgee: Eps05: I've worked with one person who was fat because of her genes. It's terrible being told by your doctor that no matter how much you exercise, even if you get liposuction, you'll always return to that size eventually. Plus the weight is causing early damage to her knees and back requiring frequent painkiller injections.

She's lucky to have a loving husband who understand the "for better or worse" part of the deal. He wasn't fat though. They took a vacation to cape cod; on the beach he took a triple cheese burger, large fries and large drink. She took a small ice cream cone. Guess who people looked at like they saw a pig?

If people who lack intake control would work on their issues people who have an actual medical condition wouldn't be denigrated so much. My coworker ate like a bird.

How does that work, exactly? Surely if one burned more calories than one ate, fat shouldn't build up, right?

[imgs.xkcd.com image 358x540]

While a pure "calories in, calories out" metric sounds reasonable and is easy to understand, it doesn't actually work in real life. Some other factors involved include genetics (as illustrated by Eps05's coworker), chronic illness (my older brother is on an anti-Schizophrenia medication that made him blow up like a balloon), and a few less obvious things like insomnia and gut flora.

Here's a video with a pretty good summary of the obesity epidemic and what we currently know.


all those factors affect activity level, appetite, metabolism, etc, but ultimately, the laws of physics still apply. You can't create mass out of nothing; it has to come from somewhere.

There's very few true genetic conditions that make it nearly impossible for people to lose weight. People with leptin receptor mutations for example, get no satiety signals and are therefore hungry all of the time. So yeah, they were overweight because of a genetic condition, but ultimately, they are overweight because the calories they consume exceed the calories they burn.

Moreover, a great deal of our metabolism is dictated by our basal metabolic rate. Now, you could argue that somebody has a super slow metabolism compared to an average person, but the reality is that the variation from the norm in basal metabolic rate can't be all that large (it's mostly dictated by body size, with larger people having larger metabolic rates). You still need to pump all that calcium back into the sarcoplasmic reticulum after a cardiac muscle contraction, or use up energy to run the sodium-potassium-2-chloride pumps in the loop of henle in they kidney, or build and break down acetylcholine in the brain, or expend energy to run all the sodium and potassium ATP pumps that make our thoughts and farts possible. These are all vital organ functions, and they account for a large amount of the calories we burn every day. It's not like there's people out there who have a genetic condition that makes their BMR a tenth of a normal adult's and therefore can only eat a tenth as much as their peers. Barring severe hypothermia, BMR variation doesn't really dip that low in people.

Yes, there are genetic conditions that dictate more or less what our basic body sizes and shapes are, but outside of a few notable exceptions, it doesn't mean that we are at a complete loss of control in terms of keeping our weight reasonable. Knee problems from obesity is not reasonable.

I can't say anything about the person mentioned above, but I've met two people who "eat like a bird" and then go home to scarf down twinkies they hide in their closet. Not saying that's the case here, but sometimes the easier explanation makes more sense. it's not spontaneous formation of matter that defies the laws of physics, it's the stash of twinkies that they don't consume all bird-like in the privacy of their bedroom.
 
2012-11-29 01:43:48 AM  
Put a wig on that shiat. Nobody wants to see a disgusting little bald head. Now everyone is going to think THAT is normal. Gross.
 
2012-11-29 01:46:56 AM  

Eps05: I've worked with one person who was fat because of her genes. It's terrible being told by your doctor that no matter how much you exercise, even if you get liposuction, you'll always return to that size eventually. Plus the weight is causing early damage to her knees and back requiring frequent painkiller injections.

She's lucky to have a loving husband who understand the "for better or worse" part of the deal. He wasn't fat though. They took a vacation to cape cod; on the beach he took a triple cheese burger, large fries and large drink. She took a small ice cream cone. Guess who people looked at like they saw a pig?

If people who lack intake control would work on their issues people who have an actual medical condition wouldn't be denigrated so much. My coworker ate like a bird.


Sounds like she suffered from bullshiatitis.
 
2012-11-29 01:47:49 AM  

anfrind: Samwise Gamgee: Eps05: I've worked with one person who was fat because of her genes. It's terrible being told by your doctor that no matter how much you exercise, even if you get liposuction, you'll always return to that size eventually. Plus the weight is causing early damage to her knees and back requiring frequent painkiller injections.

She's lucky to have a loving husband who understand the "for better or worse" part of the deal. He wasn't fat though. They took a vacation to cape cod; on the beach he took a triple cheese burger, large fries and large drink. She took a small ice cream cone. Guess who people looked at like they saw a pig?

If people who lack intake control would work on their issues people who have an actual medical condition wouldn't be denigrated so much. My coworker ate like a bird.

How does that work, exactly? Surely if one burned more calories than one ate, fat shouldn't build up, right?

[imgs.xkcd.com image 358x540]

While a pure "calories in, calories out" metric sounds reasonable and is easy to understand, it doesn't actually work in real life. Some other factors involved include genetics (as illustrated by Eps05's coworker), chronic illness (my older brother is on an anti-Schizophrenia medication that made him blow up like a balloon), and a few less obvious things like insomnia and gut flora.

Here's a video with a pretty good summary of the obesity epidemic and what we currently know.


Enjoyable video, but nothing in it invalidates the fact that if you burn more energy than you ingest, you will lose fat. By the by, this is coming from someone who lost ~40 lbs since June:

i.imgur.com
Picture is 11 days old, I made it for a weight loss/exercise forum I frequent.

That is five months of diet and exercise. I cut out carbs, sodas, sweets, etc and generally eat dinner only, skipping breakfast and lunch. You get used to it after a week and don't get hungry until evening. Tonight's dinner was filet mignon and rock shrimp and asparagus (when you cut back on your meals, you can afford nicer dinners!). Had one of those little babybel cheeses for dessert. After dinner, went to the gym and walked on the treadmill for a half hour and lifted weights. My blood pressure and cholesterol is way down as well.

The stuff mentioned in the video may be true in the sense that it might be harder for some people to lose weight than others. I probably fall into that category - everyone in my family and extended family is fat. My grandmother had twelve children and almost all of them are around 300 lbs (well, the ones that aren't dead already). I realized I was turning out the same way and decided to do something about it.
 
2012-11-29 01:48:47 AM  

HotWingAgenda: jaytkay: HotWingAgenda: this goes back to the American concept of fashion as a source of role models. No one wants coke-snorting anorexics to be displayed as a role model

Wait, coke-snorting anorexics are not the norm on runways?

/ Confused

I said no one wants them to be.


Somebody does, they get paid to look like that.
 
2012-11-29 01:51:29 AM  

gweilo8888: Unless you believe in the ability to create energy out of nowhere, it is simply not possible. You burn a finite amount of energy just existing. You have to take in more than that amount of energy to gain weight and become fat. You control that amount of energy with your lifestyle choices.


Lies all lies, I had no choice!! I wouldn't know what was wrong with me if I was never in the military, woohoo free health care but for the longest time I've eat like a pig and I eat incredibly unhealthy, not to mention I also don't work out. I have a ridiculous amount of energy, before I had sleeping medicine I would stay awake for 2 days minimum but usually 3 or 4 days before I was tired enough to really even lay down. I'm also rather thin, 130lbs currently. They attributed my not gaining weight to hyperthyroidism and my sleeping problem to having an abnormally high amount of alpha waves even when I'm sleeping. So, when I sleep my brain is constantly getting energy pulses that won't let me get any deep sleep. I used to only sleep for 2 hours when I slept before I was up and ready to go.
 
2012-11-29 01:52:33 AM  

meat0918: I don't care if they have fat mannequins in the fat section.

I just wish they had clothes that fit me.

I have long arms and a skinny torso. Medium long short sleeved shirts fit me sometimes, large tall long sleeved fit me sometimes but not. XL and I'm swimming in them, but at least the sleeves are long enough.

WTFs a guy to do?  Go shirtless?


go to a tailor
 
2012-11-29 01:58:03 AM  

rga184: I can't say anything about the person mentioned above, but I've met two people who "eat like a bird" and then go home to scarf down twinkies they hide in their closet.


This twisted deception reminds me of a group of Somalian asylum seekers that were on "hunger strike" because they were about to be deported.
When a reporter went snooping around, he saw all of them scarfing down soup. When he asked them how they could say they were on hunger strike, they replied with "soup isn't food!".

/Seriously.
//Your fatty probably didn't regard twinkies as "food".
//She was partly right.
 
2012-11-29 01:58:43 AM  
www.markmccorkell.com

Reminds me of this for some reason.

/hot
 
2012-11-29 02:02:18 AM  

Badgers: rga184: I can't say anything about the person mentioned above, but I've met two people who "eat like a bird" and then go home to scarf down twinkies they hide in their closet.

This twisted deception reminds me of a group of Somalian asylum seekers that were on "hunger strike" because they were about to be deported.
When a reporter went snooping around, he saw all of them scarfing down soup. When he asked them how they could say they were on hunger strike, they replied with "soup isn't food!".


Hah. Reminds me back when I thought that a Ramadan fast meant someone didn't eat during the entire Ramadan holiday. I always respected it because it sounded really hard, and required lots of discipline. Then I found out that it's just during the day and they pig out at night. I now have a whiny Muslim coworker who biatches about his hunger and blood sugar levels all throughout Ramadan... acts like he's truly suffering.
 
2012-11-29 02:09:52 AM  

biatchqueen: Eps05: Samwise Gamgee: Eps05: I've worked with one person who was fat because of her genes. It's terrible being told by your doctor that no matter how much you exercise, even if you get liposuction, you'll always return to that size eventually. Plus the weight is causing early damage to her knees and back requiring frequent painkiller injections.

She's lucky to have a loving husband who understand the "for better or worse" part of the deal. He wasn't fat though. They took a vacation to cape cod; on the beach he took a triple cheese burger, large fries and large drink. She took a small ice cream cone. Guess who people looked at like they saw a pig?

If people who lack intake control would work on their issues people who have an actual medical condition wouldn't be denigrated so much. My coworker ate like a bird.

How does that work, exactly? Surely if one burned more calories than one ate, fat shouldn't build up, right?

Maybe if you like starving all day long every day. I don't remember exactly though. I think it had something to do with the body being incapable of converting fat to energy due to a defect. Like diabetes being linked to defects toward converting sugars to energy.

Usually it's tied to thyroid issues- however anything in the metabolic path can screw up and cause issues- My hypothesis is some bodies are geared to "store ALL THE FOOD" whereas some use it all.

But yes, it can happen. Note: if the fat is distributed on the gut heaviest of all, that can be a thyroid indicator. All over? Laziness/overeating, etc.

//fat and big-boned.
//however, very strong


Not really how it works. Yes, hypothyroidism can affect basal metabolism and therefore make it more likley for somebody to gain weight. However, hypothyroidism is an illness with other signs and symptoms, as well as an illness that is easily treated. Most people have normal working thyroid glands. thyroid disease could not possibly account for the incredible increase in obesity in this country. If this were true, we'd be discussing a hypothyroidism epidemic, not an obesity epidemic.

Like before, your body definitely burns enough calories to carry on basic life functions (basal metabolic rate, BMR). Beyond that, some of your caloric intake goes towards keeping you warm (brown fat in babies, but also shivering and piloerection in adults, wasted heat production not converted to energy-holding molecules) and activity. If you eat 2000 calories and your BMR + thermogenesis account for 1700, whether or not you use that extra 300 calories determines whether or not you store that food. Now, think about people you know who fidget, or just can't hold still, who walk fast everywhere, etc. Even if they're not out there running three miles, they may actually end up burning those extra 300.

Body fat distribution is largely dictated by genetics. Black girls have big butts, Hillary Clinton has cankles, etc, etc. (thatsracist.gif) This has nothing to do with the cause for their obesity.

/also overweight.
 
2012-11-29 02:20:04 AM  

Eps05: Samwise Gamgee: Eps05: I've worked with one person who was fat because of her genes. It's terrible being told by your doctor that no matter how much you exercise, even if you get liposuction, you'll always return to that size eventually. Plus the weight is causing early damage to her knees and back requiring frequent painkiller injections.

She's lucky to have a loving husband who understand the "for better or worse" part of the deal. He wasn't fat though. They took a vacation to cape cod; on the beach he took a triple cheese burger, large fries and large drink. She took a small ice cream cone. Guess who people looked at like they saw a pig?

If people who lack intake control would work on their issues people who have an actual medical condition wouldn't be denigrated so much. My coworker ate like a bird.

How does that work, exactly? Surely if one burned more calories than one ate, fat shouldn't build up, right?

Maybe if you like starving all day long every day. I don't remember exactly though. I think it had something to do with the body being incapable of converting fat to energy due to a defect. Like diabetes being linked to defects toward converting sugars to energy.


diabetics are very capable of breaking down sugars to produce energy. What they can't do is get that sugar into the cells, either because they have no intrinsic insulin, or because they have had such chronically high insulin levels for a long enough period of their lives that their bodies have developed a tolerance for it, so to speak. Insulin is necessary for cells to express and install glucose transporters that allow glucose to go from outside to inside the cell.

Oddly enough, there's a subtype of glucose transporter that doesn't require insulin to be expressed. The GLUT4 transporter can be expressed with a single bout of exercise and remain in the muscle for two or three days. There's conflicting evidence as to whether or not having a lot of these receptors improves your response to insulin, but it stands to reason that it would improve your blood sugar levels and hence lower your insulin levels and/or requirements if you're a diabetic.
 
2012-11-29 02:24:39 AM  
Nothing fits me from department stores anymore. I'm the same size I was 15 years ago in high school, but a size 2 at The Gap is now actually about 4 sizes larger. I'm stuck buying $200 jeans from boutiques because you obese people can't pull it to farking gether. There are very few places to find clothes that fit if you aren't fat.
 
2012-11-29 02:28:57 AM  

Samwise Gamgee: Badgers: rga184: I can't say anything about the person mentioned above, but I've met two people who "eat like a bird" and then go home to scarf down twinkies they hide in their closet.

This twisted deception reminds me of a group of Somalian asylum seekers that were on "hunger strike" because they were about to be deported.
When a reporter went snooping around, he saw all of them scarfing down soup. When he asked them how they could say they were on hunger strike, they replied with "soup isn't food!".


Hah. Reminds me back when I thought that a Ramadan fast meant someone didn't eat during the entire Ramadan holiday. I always respected it because it sounded really hard, and required lots of discipline. Then I found out that it's just during the day and they pig out at night. I now have a whiny Muslim coworker who biatches about his hunger and blood sugar levels all throughout Ramadan... acts like he's truly suffering.


Have you done that fast? It's not just food, it's also water. I can go all day without eating, but all day without drinking is really, really hard. I did it for a day as part of a fundraiser for our university's mosque. I'm not muslim, but my friend was and he was always helping a hand with other people's christian charities, so why not. Good guy. Anyway, don't knock it, it's kind of tough. I will say though, you're not supposed to complain about it. Pretty much very muslim I've ever asked downplays how hard it is. It's part of the tradition. Fasting does nothing for your friend's soul if he's complaining about it!
 
2012-11-29 02:38:35 AM  

Samwise Gamgee: generally eat dinner only, skipping breakfast and lunch


If you hadn't done that, you'd have lost weight a lot faster. Dinner should be a tiny meal - never meat. Breakfast should be the largest. If you are only eating one meal, and only in the evening, you're slowing your metabolism way down from what it could/should be. Just so you know.
 
2012-11-29 03:10:07 AM  

rga184: Samwise Gamgee: Badgers: rga184: I can't say anything about the person mentioned above, but I've met two people who "eat like a bird" and then go home to scarf down twinkies they hide in their closet.

This twisted deception reminds me of a group of Somalian asylum seekers that were on "hunger strike" because they were about to be deported.
When a reporter went snooping around, he saw all of them scarfing down soup. When he asked them how they could say they were on hunger strike, they replied with "soup isn't food!".


Hah. Reminds me back when I thought that a Ramadan fast meant someone didn't eat during the entire Ramadan holiday. I always respected it because it sounded really hard, and required lots of discipline. Then I found out that it's just during the day and they pig out at night. I now have a whiny Muslim coworker who biatches about his hunger and blood sugar levels all throughout Ramadan... acts like he's truly suffering.

Have you done that fast? It's not just food, it's also water. I can go all day without eating, but all day without drinking is really, really hard. I did it for a day as part of a fundraiser for our university's mosque. I'm not muslim, but my friend was and he was always helping a hand with other people's christian charities, so why not. Good guy. Anyway, don't knock it, it's kind of tough. I will say though, you're not supposed to complain about it. Pretty much very muslim I've ever asked downplays how hard it is. It's part of the tradition. Fasting does nothing for your friend's soul if he's complaining about it!


Yeah. Also, keep in mind that the Muslim calendar is lunar, so holidays can fall at any time. Which means that Ramadan can take place in mid-summer. Yep, mid-summer in the Middle East - NO liquids from sunrise to sunset. I wouldn't call that "easy."
 
2012-11-29 03:17:12 AM  
Ramadan fasting this year started at about 415 am and went until 845 pm. It was my first, and i remember envying every co worker i saw with a water bottle after 11 am. It's supposed to be difficult, but after i got used to it, i actually enjoyed it. I can't wait for next Ramadan.
 
2012-11-29 03:53:07 AM  

Samwise Gamgee: How does that work, exactly? Surely if one burned more calories than one ate, fat shouldn't build up, right?


It's a system, with active feedback. Fat cells excrete a hormone that tells your brain how much of a fat bastard you are. In theory then your brain adjusts both metabolism and food consumption to keep the amount of fat stores constant. The problem is dis-regulation, something goes terribly wrong.
 
2012-11-29 05:02:13 AM  

IamAwake: Samwise Gamgee: generally eat dinner only, skipping breakfast and lunch

If you hadn't done that, you'd have lost weight a lot faster. Dinner should be a tiny meal - never meat. Breakfast should be the largest. If you are only eating one meal, and only in the evening, you're slowing your metabolism way down from what it could/should be. Just so you know.


You are right that you should not skip meals when trying to lose weight. However, it is a bad idea to avoid protein, unless you want to lose muscle instead of fat.
 
2012-11-29 05:23:14 AM  
Some mustard stains on that wife beater would be a nice touch.
 
2012-11-29 06:35:54 AM  
Needs a food tray and beliwheel.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-29 07:06:43 AM  
You could hang one of these in the window and dress it up to appease the skinny folks:

www.brainwavestoys.com
 
2012-11-29 07:48:46 AM  
So company selling plus size clothes uses large displays. Makes sense to me. If your selling pettie clothes you would use pettie models. Only beef I have about clothing is a lack of standards on sizes. A 40x30 jeans should be same size regardless of brand

/yes I'm heavy
 
2012-11-29 08:02:43 AM  

meat0918: I don't care if they have fat mannequins in the fat section.

I just wish they had clothes that fit me.

I have long arms and a skinny torso. Medium long short sleeved shirts fit me sometimes, large tall long sleeved fit me sometimes but not. XL and I'm swimming in them, but at least the sleeves are long enough.

WTFs a guy to do?  Go shirtless?


Yes. Yes you are.
 
2012-11-29 08:39:40 AM  
Okay. So just like black people are the only ones allowed to claim racism, fat people are the only ones allowed to be offended by a specific body type being depicted in advertising? Got it.
 
2012-11-29 09:28:42 AM  

abhorrent1: Okay. So just like black people are the only ones allowed to claim racism, fat people are the only ones allowed to be offended by a specific body type being depicted in advertising? Got it.


Glad you're keeping up.

In response to Samwise: Congrats on losing the weight, but, as some others have already noted, you are actually slowing your metabolism down by eating only once a day.

My husband was 242lbs. He's 5'9. A few years ago he went to renew his license, and upon comparing the new pic to the older one, he realized he needed to make some changes. He got on some the weight loss meds (ephedrine) for about six months, and changed his diet. He ate a little healthier, but he mostly just ate smaller meals, more frequently.
He's down to 165 now and having no trouble with keeping it off, and he can eat whatever he wants...just in small portions. He gets full really fast, so that isn't a problem anymore.

Anyway /csb
 
2012-11-29 09:34:59 AM  

Samwise Gamgee: Eps05: I've worked with one person who was fat because of her genes. It's terrible being told by your doctor that no matter how much you exercise, even if you get liposuction, you'll always return to that size eventually. Plus the weight is causing early damage to her knees and back requiring frequent painkiller injections.
...
If people who lack intake control would work on their issues people who have an actual medical condition wouldn't be denigrated so much. My coworker ate like a bird.

How does that work, exactly? Surely if one burned more calories than one ate, fat shouldn't build up, right?


My aunt, along with my mom and their younger sister, was a size 4 when she got married back in the day. Over time and with age my mom and younger aunt gained a somewhat expected amount of weight for being teachers with children of their own. My older aunt, however, ballooned up almost immediately after having a kid. She ate well and was on her feet and running around all day as a nurse but couldn't seem to keep the weight off. Then they found a benign lump on her thyroid (never really grew bigger, and it would just grow back if they removed it) and they figured that's what contributed to her issues. Seriously. The woman practically lives on spinach and chicken and for desert would have a packet of gummie bears. It's like her body just wants to horde all the calories. HORDE ALL THE CALORIES!!!
 
2012-11-29 09:50:06 AM  
In the last couple of years I went from 230 to 190 with a lot of excise thrown in and I'm looking pretty damn good, but more importantly I'm FEELING a lot better. Life is more fun when you are not carrying around 40 extra lbs in a out of shape body.

No fatties really like being fatties, some will try to tell you they like being blobs, but unless they have a mental condition, they are lying. The issue is that its easier being fat, getting instant gratification from food, then thinking long term. Its similar to why idiots pile up huge credit card debt on things they don't need. They then make excuses for their fatness, which they know is all their own fault, or get very defensive about it, which is normal human reaction to being called out.
 
2012-11-29 10:05:24 AM  

Indypendy: abhorrent1: Okay. So just like black people are the only ones allowed to claim racism, fat people are the only ones allowed to be offended by a specific body type being depicted in advertising? Got it.

Glad you're keeping up.

In response to Samwise: Congrats on losing the weight, but, as some others have already noted, you are actually slowing your metabolism down by eating only once a day.

My husband was 242lbs. He's 5'9. A few years ago he went to renew his license, and upon comparing the new pic to the older one, he realized he needed to make some changes. He got on some the weight loss meds (ephedrine) for about six months, and changed his diet. He ate a little healthier, but he mostly just ate smaller meals, more frequently.
He's down to 165 now and having no trouble with keeping it off, and he can eat whatever he wants...just in small portions. He gets full really fast, so that isn't a problem anymore.

Anyway /csb


Well, what can I say. I could link to a lot of studies about intermittent fasting and the like, but at the end of the day... it's working for me.
 
2012-11-29 10:29:21 AM  
turning on images was a waste of time.
thanks for nothing.
 
2012-11-29 10:53:50 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Dear outraged people,

Go find a real problem.

Sincerely,
Gyrfalcon.


Dear Fatties,


Go find a diet.

Sincerely,
The Rest of Us
 
2012-11-29 11:12:51 AM  
Samwise, I'm sure you've heard this before, but your "before" pictures, I instantly thought of Chandler Bing!

Good job though.

Samwise Gamgee: anfrind: Samwise Gamgee: Eps05: I've worked with one person who was fat because of her genes. It's terrible being told by your doctor that no matter how much you exercise, even if you get liposuction, you'll always return to that size eventually. Plus the weight is causing early damage to her knees and back requiring frequent painkiller injections.

She's lucky to have a loving husband who understand the "for better or worse" part of the deal. He wasn't fat though. They took a vacation to cape cod; on the beach he took a triple cheese burger, large fries and large drink. She took a small ice cream cone. Guess who people looked at like they saw a pig?

If people who lack intake control would work on their issues people who have an actual medical condition wouldn't be denigrated so much. My coworker ate like a bird.

How does that work, exactly? Surely if one burned more calories than one ate, fat shouldn't build up, right?

[imgs.xkcd.com image 358x540]

While a pure "calories in, calories out" metric sounds reasonable and is easy to understand, it doesn't actually work in real life. Some other factors involved include genetics (as illustrated by Eps05's coworker), chronic illness (my older brother is on an anti-Schizophrenia medication that made him blow up like a balloon), and a few less obvious things like insomnia and gut flora.

Here's a video with a pretty good summary of the obesity epidemic and what we currently know.

Enjoyable video, but nothing in it invalidates the fact that if you burn more energy than you ingest, you will lose fat. By the by, this is coming from someone who lost ~40 lbs since June:

[i.imgur.com image 850x400]
Picture is 11 days old, I made it for a weight loss/exercise forum I frequent.

That is five months of diet and exercise. I cut out carbs, sodas, sweets, etc and generally eat dinner only, skipping breakfast and lunch. You get used to it after a week and don't get hungry until evening. Tonight's dinner was filet mignon and roc ...

 
2012-11-29 12:28:40 PM  

fusillade762: To save you the click:

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ProfessorOhki: That's not plus size... that's... that's like a 1/144 head on a 1/100 body.

Yeah, the head and hands just look WRONG.


Looks like a toon I created once in City of Heroes... or even one of them crazy body types in SWTOR
 
2012-11-29 01:07:33 PM  

Tenatra: gweilo8888: Unless you believe in the ability to create energy out of nowhere, it is simply not possible. You burn a finite amount of energy just existing. You have to take in more than that amount of energy to gain weight and become fat. You control that amount of energy with your lifestyle choices.

Lies all lies, I had no choice!! I wouldn't know what was wrong with me if I was never in the military, woohoo free health care but for the longest time I've eat like a pig and I eat incredibly unhealthy, not to mention I also don't work out. I have a ridiculous amount of energy, before I had sleeping medicine I would stay awake for 2 days minimum but usually 3 or 4 days before I was tired enough to really even lay down. I'm also rather thin, 130lbs currently. They attributed my not gaining weight to hyperthyroidism and my sleeping problem to having an abnormally high amount of alpha waves even when I'm sleeping. So, when I sleep my brain is constantly getting energy pulses that won't let me get any deep sleep. I used to only sleep for 2 hours when I slept before I was up and ready to go.


Did I say the amount of energy was identical for everybody? No. That wouldn't have been true.

What I said was true -- that you (like everybody else) have a particular caloric intake at which for your current activity level, you will lose weight. Slightly above that level, your wait will remain static. Slightly above again, and you will gain weight.

That caloric intake level will be unique to you, depending on all sorts of factors, including your thyroid.
 
2012-11-29 01:21:39 PM  
Do you believe in perpetual motion machines? No? Well, a human body that gains weight without intaking more calories than it is expending is, in effect, the same thing.

Please learn your physics before trying to use it on the internet.
You must consider ALL the terms not just the ones that make you feel superior. The term people like to leave out is the most important one - how many calories do you shiat out? Here's a hint - it is much much greater than the number you burn off doing exercise. If that number went to zero, you would balloon up unless you stopped eating entirely. The problem people have with losing weight is that when they increase activity, their metabolism can adjust, reducing the number of calories shat out so there is no net body weight loss. This system has been developed over thousands of years due to food shortages. You need to exercise more than your metabolism compensates for in order to lose weight - and that will depend on personal chemistry. You are not morally superior to the fatties, you are luckier in your biology.
 
2012-11-29 01:26:36 PM  

NotARocketScientist: Please learn your physics before trying to use it on the internet.


Weight a minute.

You're no rocket scientists!

You're a big fat phoney!
 
2012-11-29 02:32:30 PM  
i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-29 05:00:38 PM  

Samwise Gamgee: Indypendy: abhorrent1: Okay. So just like black people are the only ones allowed to claim racism, fat people are the only ones allowed to be offended by a specific body type being depicted in advertising? Got it.

Glad you're keeping up.

In response to Samwise: Congrats on losing the weight, but, as some others have already noted, you are actually slowing your metabolism down by eating only once a day.

My husband was 242lbs. He's 5'9. A few years ago he went to renew his license, and upon comparing the new pic to the older one, he realized he needed to make some changes. He got on some the weight loss meds (ephedrine) for about six months, and changed his diet. He ate a little healthier, but he mostly just ate smaller meals, more frequently.
He's down to 165 now and having no trouble with keeping it off, and he can eat whatever he wants...just in small portions. He gets full really fast, so that isn't a problem anymore.

Anyway /csb

Well, what can I say. I could link to a lot of studies about intermittent fasting and the like, but at the end of the day... it's working for me.


That's what counts in the end. Everyone is different and its all about finding what works for you.

/if I didn't eat all day I'd stab someone.
//seriously, congrats. :)
 
2012-11-29 07:33:58 PM  

Ant: Dear offended people, I'm sorry that the last socially acceptable prejudice is being taken away from you. You'll get over it.

Find something else to be outraged about.


Well, we'll always have racists and homophobes. Right?
 
2012-11-29 10:51:17 PM  

Spiralmonkey: meat0918: I don't care if they have fat mannequins in the fat section.

I just wish they had clothes that fit me.

I have long arms and a skinny torso. Medium long short sleeved shirts fit me sometimes, large tall long sleeved fit me sometimes but not. XL and I'm swimming in them, but at least the sleeves are long enough.

WTFs a guy to do?  Go shirtless?

Don't men's shirts come in regular and fitted options in the US? Collar size first, then decide if fitted (skinny body) or regular (husband shaped) is required. Or is that not the kind of shirt you're talking about?


No, those are not shirts for men, they're shirts for "men."
 
2012-11-29 10:55:51 PM  

Ant: Dear offended people, I'm sorry that the last socially acceptable prejudice is being taken away from you. You'll get over it.

Find something else to be outraged about.


It's not prejudice. It's judgement. I don't need to pretend to have foreknowledge to determine that someone is fat; I observe it. If I see a black dude and say 'he's lazy,' that's prejudice. If I see a black dude on the street yelling to his friends 'I'm not going to work, the government will pay for it' and say he's lazy, then I'm just observant. See the difference?
 
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