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(The Age (Melbourne))   Step aside, bath salts: here comes White Bull   (theage.com.au) divider line 33
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2012-11-29 07:16:06 AM  
4 votes:
Fark everything but weed.
2012-11-29 03:02:37 AM  
4 votes:
The designer drugs spook me.

I'll stick with good old alcohol. Easily obtained and I know how to dose it.
2012-11-29 06:49:11 AM  
3 votes:

Cybernetic: styckx: Geeves00: styckx: Cocaine, $350 a gram? LOLWUT?

Right? Where do they come up with these numbers? $60 tops.....

I did some Google-Fu.. Apparentely in Australia is one of the most profitable places to sell coke and $300-$400/gram is legit.

I did some Google-Fu, and found out that "White Bull" was the nephew of Sitting Bull, and is also the name of a work of fiction by Voltaire.

Of course, none of that is helpful. But it is interesting.

/To me, anyway.


A white bull was what Aphrodite induced the queen of Minos to have sex with and subsequently conceive the Minotaur.
2012-11-29 07:45:28 AM  
2 votes:
This is just stupid--- the legal stuff only benefits the SELLERS- not the users, as their risk is reduced. The buyer's risk is greatly increased, as each user becomes a test bunny.

Druggies: stick with what is safe and known. Buy the illegal stuff. You know what you are getting and what to expect. The risk of running afoul of the law is much better than the risk of seriously screwing up your head or body. I mean that kiddos. Stay safe out there--- and stick to illegal drugs--- the safe drugs.
2012-11-29 06:44:29 AM  
2 votes:

styckx: Geeves00: styckx: Cocaine, $350 a gram? LOLWUT?

Right? Where do they come up with these numbers? $60 tops.....

I did some Google-Fu.. Apparentely in Australia is one of the most profitable places to sell coke and $300-$400/gram is legit.


I did some Google-Fu, and found out that "White Bull" was the nephew of Sitting Bull, and is also the name of a work of fiction by Voltaire.

Of course, none of that is helpful. But it is interesting.

/To me, anyway.
2012-11-29 06:35:59 AM  
2 votes:
Fiona Patten, of the Eros Foundation, which has assumed the role of being the representative body for the legal high industry, hadn't heard of White Bull.


Well then... what an excellent representative Fiona Patten is for the legal high industry.
Skr
2012-11-29 06:28:02 AM  
2 votes:
Even synthetic drugs that have been around for years have pages long disclaimers of " May contain Death", can't say I'm too thrilled about mystery serums. If this is anything like what K2 is to Marijuana, then the outcome of use is rather unpredictable.

/rather take something to chill out
//looked into Modafinil to help with working the graveyard shift, but the side effects scared me off.
2012-11-29 06:19:59 AM  
2 votes:
"What's in it? He didn't know."

Well, I'm sold.
Let me just pour some of this mystery agent into my skull and wait for the magic to happen!

/Contraband peddlers must be some of the best salesmen out there...
/That or users are really, really, stupid.
2012-11-29 03:39:15 AM  
2 votes:
Woohoo! Legalized Cocaine! I'm ready!

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2012-11-29 08:28:02 AM  
1 votes:

Shyla: Well that article told me... nothing.


It told you there is a drug, called white bull, which is just like cocaine.
...But we know that whatever is in it, it is NOT cocaine.
So its OK!


/Me: I know there are alot of chemicals in this world that are also not cocaine.
/A very many most of them are also not OK for human consumption.
2012-11-29 08:25:57 AM  
1 votes:

thisispete: CarnySaur: ADULT stores are selling a synthetic cocaine called White Bull for $100 a gram. This is twice the price of old-fashioned amphetamines that bikies used to cook....

Bikies?

Members of motorcycle gangs, a big component of Australian organised crime


Kind of a cutesy name.
2012-11-29 08:19:38 AM  
1 votes:

Novart: CarnySaur: ADULT stores are selling a synthetic cocaine called White Bull for $100 a gram. This is twice the price of old-fashioned amphetamines that bikies used to cook....

Bikies?

Lance Armstrong types


i.imgur.com
2012-11-29 08:16:55 AM  
1 votes:

epoc_tnac: My wife for some reason is obsessed with the show 'cops' at the moment, and I swear to god, 60-70% of the arrests in that show relate to illegal drugs or prescription drugs. High speed chases, fighting with the cops, putting everyone at risk, but not because they're high, it's because they don't want to go to jail for doing something to their own bodies.

And now we see another consequence of the war on drugs: people taking random farking chemicals which can be far more dangerous than the drug they're trying to emulate, all because they don't want to go to jail. Legalising and regulating all drugs is the only way forward, the police absolutely cannot do anything by intervening except make things worse for everyone.


Even the police are catching on
2012-11-29 08:09:15 AM  
1 votes:
My wife for some reason is obsessed with the show 'cops' at the moment, and I swear to god, 60-70% of the arrests in that show relate to illegal drugs or prescription drugs. High speed chases, fighting with the cops, putting everyone at risk, but not because they're high, it's because they don't want to go to jail for doing something to their own bodies.

And now we see another consequence of the war on drugs: people taking random farking chemicals which can be far more dangerous than the drug they're trying to emulate, all because they don't want to go to jail. Legalising and regulating all drugs is the only way forward, the police absolutely cannot do anything by intervening except make things worse for everyone.
2012-11-29 08:07:29 AM  
1 votes:
350$ a gram for coke? Not in my neck of the woods. Christ, you can get an 8-ball for less than that..

Glad i don't live in australia
2012-11-29 08:03:15 AM  
1 votes:

highwayrun: It's less of a gamble


Putting aside the matter of how you know it's "less", the phrase "less of a gamble" still contains the word "gamble".

highwayrun: For the most part, end users don't buy substances from strangers; the tendency is to buy whatever your substance of choice is from your friends


Most "crimes of passion" are committed by people close to you. Got a corpse with upwards of 80 stab wounds? It was likely a relative, or at the very least a friend. Complete strangers simply don't have the familiarity to hate you that hard.

Had a couple arrested while staying at the neighbor's just one house down some years back. They failed to tell the friends they were boarding with that night that they'd just come from a double murder in Vermont. Shot to death a man and his wife because they'd asked for more marijuana than the victim was able to supply. He said he couldn't and the logical answer to "I can't" is apparently a hail of 9mm bullets.

Not sure how the "friend factor" changes the risk here at all. Aside from brutal mutilation between friends, life's all full of excellent examples of why doing business of any sort (let alone the illicit kind) with friends or family is often a very bad idea. When business goes south, matters invariably get a lot more personal than they would if you were merely 'acquainted'.
2012-11-29 07:40:03 AM  
1 votes:
Looks like I picked the right week to quit sniffing glue!
2012-11-29 07:26:28 AM  
1 votes:

SkunkWerks: styckx: With the illegal shiat you know what you're getting yourself into

Because you can always trust someone willing to break the rules in order to make money to do business with you in a completely straightforward way? It's my understanding that illicit drugs are often cut with a great number of substances- both benign and otherwise- to maximize profit. Substances no one bothers to inform the consumer of, naturally, because doing so might endanger said profit.

No I don't really care if the rules are "right" or not. Nor do I care if there are some exceptional people who "skirt the line" between what's against the rules and what's actually amoral as well.

What I'm saying is that your feeling about whether you can trust in a substance sold to you by a long chain of people with already questionable scruples is only that: a feeling. It's not backed by what any empirical thinker would hazard a description of as "reasoning". You're still gambling.

That said, this distinction you're trying to make doesn't really make much sense to me. Both risks are equally daft from my perspective. But then, as I said, I really fail to understand the appeal, and thus the allure to taking such risks in the first place.

Nor am I- in my heart of hearts- a gambler.


It's less of a gamble than you make it out to be. For the most part, end users don't buy substances from strangers; the tendency is to buy whatever your substance of choice is from your friends, people you already know, and then when you get into "the scene" you buy it from their connection. Your model of trust holds if you're talking about a street purchase from a homeless guy or at a bus stop, but even those highly mobile guys want to do continuing business with you, and a skeeved-out customer is not a return customer.
2012-11-29 07:05:36 AM  
1 votes:

L.D. Ablo: The designer drugs spook me.

I'll stick with good old alcohol. Easily obtained and I know how to dose it.


Yeah, this. I understand my booze and my booze understands me.
2012-11-29 07:02:24 AM  
1 votes:

styckx: With the illegal shiat you know what you're getting yourself into


Because you can always trust someone willing to break the rules in order to make money to do business with you in a completely straightforward way? It's my understanding that illicit drugs are often cut with a great number of substances- both benign and otherwise- to maximize profit. Substances no one bothers to inform the consumer of, naturally, because doing so might endanger said profit.

No I don't really care if the rules are "right" or not. Nor do I care if there are some exceptional people who "skirt the line" between what's against the rules and what's actually amoral as well.

What I'm saying is that your feeling about whether you can trust in a substance sold to you by a long chain of people with already questionable scruples is only that: a feeling. It's not backed by what any empirical thinker would hazard a description of as "reasoning". You're still gambling.

That said, this distinction you're trying to make doesn't really make much sense to me. Both risks are equally daft from my perspective. But then, as I said, I really fail to understand the appeal, and thus the allure to taking such risks in the first place.

Nor am I- in my heart of hearts- a gambler.
2012-11-29 06:57:16 AM  
1 votes:

CarnySaur: ADULT stores are selling a synthetic cocaine called White Bull for $100 a gram. This is twice the price of old-fashioned amphetamines that bikies used to cook....

Bikies?


Members of motorcycle gangs, a big component of Australian organised crime
2012-11-29 06:56:04 AM  
1 votes:

styckx: White Bull is an apparently legal substitute for cocaine, which retails illegally for $350 a gram


Cocaine, $350 a gram? LOLWUT?


Isn't coke like $50 a gram?
2012-11-29 06:50:31 AM  
1 votes:

SkunkWerks: As someone who fails to understand the appeal of illegal highs, legal ones are similarly baffling to me.

My brain chemistry is unbalanced enough on it's own without introducing any foreign substances into the mix- legal or not.


What's funny is that most people who do or have done illegal drugs stay away/would stay away from these fly by night legal versions. With the illegal shiat you know what you're getting yourself into, there is a history of side effects, dosage, purity and what it's cut with etc..

This legal shiat has none of that and is more geared and advertised to retards in high school who can't find a reputable dealer of the illegal shiat.
2012-11-29 06:42:46 AM  
1 votes:

elffster: Geeves00: styckx: Cocaine, $350 a gram? LOLWUT?

Right? Where do they come up with these numbers? $60 tops.....

its Oz prices, look at the link in the article

/theres an article?


The Aussie dollar is worth a little more than the US dollar, but it's an island country with a relatively low population a long way from production centres. So the chances of seizing narcotics at the border are significant. Supply is significantly restrained. Heroin and MDMA from Asia are more common, as are drugs produced in the country like methamphetamine (from precursors smuggled from China) and cannabis.
2012-11-29 06:40:23 AM  
1 votes:
As someone who fails to understand the appeal of illegal highs, legal ones are similarly baffling to me.

My brain chemistry is unbalanced enough on it's own without introducing any foreign substances into the mix- legal or not.
2012-11-29 06:34:48 AM  
1 votes:

way south: "What's in it? He didn't know."

Well, I'm sold.
Let me just pour some of this mystery agent into my skull and wait for the magic to happen!

/Contraband peddlers must be some of the best salesmen out there...
/That or users are really, really, stupid.


When considering between those two options, I'd say the answer is "Yes."
2012-11-29 06:32:42 AM  
1 votes:

Mr. Coffee Nerves: It gives you wings! Or, more accurately, it motivates you to break into the zoo and rape the condor.


I chortled right loudly there sir. Must say I gave the old bird quite a start. And by old bird I mean condor, and by start I mean intercourse. Consensual, mind you. Many people think condors say no, but they say more than you'd think. You just have to learn how to read their drug-addled eyes.

/yes, I drug my condors first
//and yes, I do actually mean condors!
2012-11-29 06:28:52 AM  
1 votes:

Geeves00: styckx: Cocaine, $350 a gram? LOLWUT?

Right? Where do they come up with these numbers? $60 tops.....


its Oz prices, look at the link in the article

/theres an article?
2012-11-29 06:16:28 AM  
1 votes:
This is really sad, because people are being used as experimental animals on substances we know fark-all about.

But it brings in cash to failing adult novelty stores, so thats ok.
2012-11-29 03:19:03 AM  
1 votes:
I'd try it. I live in a small town and entertainment is hard to come by.
2012-11-29 02:59:59 AM  
1 votes:
Man, if a cuckold couple goes to the adult store and asks for white bull, they are gonna be so disappointed.
2012-11-29 01:17:01 AM  
1 votes:
It gives you wings! Or, more accurately, it motivates you to break into the zoo and rape the condor.
2012-11-29 12:33:23 AM  
1 votes:
Does it give you the face munchies?
 
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