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(ESPN)   We rule that there was nothing illegal or malicious about what Ndamukong Suh did to Matt Schaub. But here is a $30,000 anyway   (espn.go.com ) divider line 86
    More: Amusing, Matt Schaub, Ndamukong Suh, Texans, Evan Dietrich-Smith, Detroit Lions, Suh fined  
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2012-11-28 03:54:45 PM  
 
2012-11-28 04:21:04 PM  
Thanks for the a $30,000.
 
2012-11-28 04:23:38 PM  
More like, "we're not going to suspend you because we can't prove you did it on purpose, but come on..."
 
2012-11-28 04:24:38 PM  
I want a $30,000!
 
2012-11-28 04:26:02 PM  
After watching the video in full speed, I thought it might be unintentional. After watching the slowed down version, his foot clearly (in my opinion) moved out towards Schaub and then into Schaub in a completely unnatural way. Based on the physics of how he was falling, and his momentum, his leg should have fallen straight down, and maybe if it was close enough had a glancing blow on Schaub's nuts. As he was falling it appeared that his leg extended, and you can clearly see that his head was turned towards Schaub.

Either way, intentional or not, Suh is a farking dirty player.
 
2012-11-28 04:26:59 PM  
"The contact looked accidental, but if you watch that after the contact it looks like he tries to extend his leg to add a little more "accident" to the play"

My favorite comment under the article, sums it up and is most likely accurate given Suh's asshole nature.
 
2012-11-28 04:27:05 PM  

Treygreen13: Thanks for the a $30,000.


Me too!
 
2012-11-28 04:27:17 PM  
Suh needs to reign in that temper. All that hate is gonna burn you up, son
 
2012-11-28 04:32:55 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: More like, "we're not going to suspend you because we can't prove you did it on purpose, but come on..."


THIS.

s3.vidimg02.popscreen.com
 
2012-11-28 04:37:50 PM  
And this is what the players are complaining about. No evidence of malicous intent and ambiguous video evidence equals a $30K fine. That is a serious miscarraige of justice. Suh may be a douche, but you can't prove that he was aiming for the jibblees. Last Thanksgiving he was clearly trying to stomp on the other guys head. This year it is not clear cut no matter how slow you make the video. If the shoe don't hit, you must aquit.
 
2012-11-28 04:39:32 PM  

balfourk: And this is what the players are complaining about. No evidence of malicous intent and ambiguous video evidence equals a $30K fine. That is a serious miscarraige of justice. Suh may be a douche, but you can't prove that he was aiming for the jibblees. Last Thanksgiving he was clearly trying to stomp on the other guys head. This year it is not clear cut no matter how slow you make the video. If the shoe don't hit, you must aquit.


You can't prove where he was aiming, but you can reasonably conclude he was trying to kick Schaub. This is the right move.
 
2012-11-28 04:39:38 PM  
It's not like the NFL requires intent to punish players in any other circumstance, why should this be different?

Suh should probably sue (heh) and get this thing tied up in court system till his playing days are over.

/pretty surprised at Suh, he didn't seem like a typical meathead coming out of Nebraska, but he certainly has turned into one in the NFL
 
2012-11-28 04:40:11 PM  
Dont really mind this. It is had to tell intent. But clearly something was fishy. Fine with the 30k...fine.
 
2012-11-28 04:40:29 PM  

balfourk: f the shoe don't hit, you must aquit.


it does though...

Anyways, my shocked face is on. The NFL punished someone without admitting they were guilty. Can't think of any player that has gotten raped like that.
 
2012-11-28 04:43:08 PM  
I'm not fine with this!
 
2012-11-28 04:44:33 PM  

thecpt: balfourk: f the shoe don't hit, you must aquit.

it does though...

Anyways, my shocked face is on. The NFL punished someone without admitting they were guilty. Can't think of any player that has gotten raped like that.


Thats the thing through. Intent doesn't HAVE to matter.

Honest, ossifer, I didn't mean to teach that quarterback's helmet! I barely grazed him!

Don't matter. You touched the QB head, its a flag. You kicked the guy in the balls 'by accident', when it actually pretty much looks like not an accident?

The CBA says we can fine you, so we are. Deal with it.
 
2012-11-28 04:44:41 PM  
Thanks for the unrelated video, ESPN.
 
2012-11-28 04:45:47 PM  

robbiex0r: Thanks for the unrelated video, ESPN.


I gave you a related video and no one wanted to bother to say anything about it.
 
2012-11-28 04:48:01 PM  

js34603: Suh should probably sue (heh) and get this thing tied up in court system till his playing days are over.


Because that will cost a lot less than $30K.....
 
2012-11-28 04:48:37 PM  

xaks:
The CBA says we can fine you, so we are. Deal with it.


Pretty much
 
2012-11-28 04:54:11 PM  
I'm not satisified with this at all. Grow some balls and declare it intentional or just drop it the whole thing.
 
2012-11-28 05:03:53 PM  
I vote we call him NkamuDong Suh for the rest of the year.
 
2012-11-28 05:05:36 PM  
Compare this to Jared Allen's fine of only $21K for ending someone's season with an illegal hit on a defenseless player. Yeah, the NFL is really doing a great job with this.
 
2012-11-28 05:15:09 PM  
i1247.photobucket.com

He is just misunderstood....
 
2012-11-28 05:17:11 PM  

Doogled: Compare this to Jared Allen's fine of only $21K for ending someone's season with an illegal hit on a defenseless player. Yeah, the NFL is really doing a great job with this.


How NFL Fines are Worked Out:
"Alright, draw 4 cards, add them up and that's the fine we'll give out! Remember the multipliers: x1.2 if the player was black and the victim was white. x1.5 if it was against an east coast team, x0.8 if it was completely awesome to watch, x1.8 if he was carried off on a stretcher. Ok, now put your head on the bat, spin around 3 times and throw a dart at the donkey, wait what were were supposed to be figuring out?"
 
2012-11-28 05:20:35 PM  

IAmRight: Correct interpretation of the situation.


100% correct
 
2012-11-28 05:22:20 PM  

vinnydoz007: Dont really mind this. It is had to tell intent. But clearly something was fishy. Fine with the 30k...fine.


That should read.."We can't prove nothing there was nothing illegal or malicious but"
 
2012-11-28 05:23:23 PM  
That should read.."We can't prove there was nothing illegal or malicious but"

/should have previewed
 
2012-11-28 05:29:30 PM  
 
2012-11-28 05:33:09 PM  

zerkalo: Suh needs to reign in that temper. All that hate is gonna burn you up, son


Make no mistake, I'd take him on my team any day of the week. If there's one thing I want on my football team it's a man who weighs over 300 pounds with a surplus of testosterone and anger management problems. The flags are just a cost of doing business.
 
2012-11-28 05:36:26 PM  
If it was any player but Suh I might cry foul.
 
2012-11-28 05:41:02 PM  
I look forward to his future tweet, titled "If I did it..."
 
2012-11-28 05:44:05 PM  

Saiga410: If it was any player but Suh I might cry foul.


This right here: the dude has a history.
 
2012-11-28 05:46:40 PM  
Most of the QBs side with Suh surprisingly.

Link 

or should I say Suh-prisingly

//ba-dum-tish
///in the nuts
 
2012-11-28 05:50:34 PM  
Keep away from Ndamukong Suh
 
2012-11-28 06:08:42 PM  

xaks: thecpt: balfourk: f the shoe don't hit, you must aquit.

it does though...

Anyways, my shocked face is on. The NFL punished someone without admitting they were guilty. Can't think of any player that has gotten raped like that.

Thats the thing through. Intent doesn't HAVE to matter.

Honest, ossifer, I didn't mean to teach that quarterback's helmet! I barely grazed him!

Don't matter. You touched the QB head, its a flag. You kicked the guy in the balls 'by accident', when it actually pretty much looks like not an accident?

The CBA says we can fine you, so we are. Deal with it.


Oh I meant the shoe hits. And my other part was meant to target rapelsburger
 
2012-11-28 06:15:44 PM  
The NHL wheel of justice came up with two games for this:

2 Games
After careful consideration, Ndamukong Suh has been suspended for 2 games for his actions on Matt Schaub.
 
2012-11-28 06:18:06 PM  
Yep i agree with everyone that he probably did it on purpose. Players like him need to realize that if you're a dirty player, every play that might look like you tried doing something dirty is going to be scrutinized and go against you. All you have to do to wash your hands of that reputation, is play the game cleanly and not do stupid shiat for a year or two. If you want to continue with the scrutiny, keep being an idiot.
 
2012-11-28 06:32:20 PM  
dude has spent any "benefit of the doubt" points long ago

he will be the last person extended any leeway & rightfully so

fark him
 
2012-11-28 06:41:50 PM  

Super Chronic: zerkalo: Suh needs to reign in that temper. All that hate is gonna burn you up, son

Make no mistake, I'd take him on my team any day of the week. If there's one thing I want on my football team it's a man who weighs over 300 pounds with a surplus of testosterone and anger management problems. The flags are just a cost of doing business.


That's the thing though. He has no penalties this year except for one offsides I think. He has really tried to change his style of play and his stats took a hit because of it. I think he would have to be a ninja to have done that on purpose, but whatever. Like everyone already said, his "benefit of the doubt" cards have all been played.

/Lions fan
 
2012-11-28 06:48:28 PM  
As farked up as the NFL is, I am surprised they didn't fine Shaub for trying to hit Suh's foot with his balls.
 
2012-11-28 06:49:09 PM  
If it wasn't intentional, it was at least reckless letting his foot fly like that, so I'm okay with a small "knock that shiat off" fine to encourage player safety.
 
2012-11-28 06:53:15 PM  
But here is a $-30,000 anyway

fify
 
2012-11-28 06:56:53 PM  

Doogled: Compare this to Jared Allen's fine of only $21K for ending someone's season with an illegal hit on a defenseless player. Yeah, the NFL is really doing a great job with this.


THIS. That's such bullshiat. He planted both feet and launched himself headfirst into a guy who wasn't even close to the play.

Now consider that this is the last year of Louis' rookie contract. He's out until halfway through next year. Allen just cost him a LOT of money.
 
2012-11-28 06:58:03 PM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: After watching the video in full speed, I thought it might be unintentional. After watching the slowed down version, his foot clearly (in my opinion) moved out towards Schaub and then into Schaub in a completely unnatural way. Based on the physics of how he was falling, and his momentum, his leg should have fallen straight down, and maybe if it was close enough had a glancing blow on Schaub's nuts. As he was falling it appeared that his leg extended, and you can clearly see that his head was turned towards Schaub.

Either way, intentional or not, Suh is a farking dirty player.


I think I've changed my mind as to whether or not it was intentional after every single viewing of the replay, but yeah he definitely deserved to be fined for it.

thecpt: it does though...

Anyways, my shocked face is on. The NFL punished someone without admitting they were guilty. Can't think of any player that has gotten raped like that.


Your only options are Rapelisberger and Brian Banks.
 
2012-11-28 07:37:03 PM  
If he is such a dirty player, there's bound to be a lot of film on it. ESPN shows the stomp and the kick to the nuts. Stomp, inexcusable and he got off easy. Kick to the nuts? He was whipped around and was face down inches from the turf when his foot connected. Must be a Jedi to aim that well.

I want to see video of kidney punches and eye gouges while in a pile. Knee shots on OLinemen. I don't see any of this video being shown, ESPN shows the stomp and kick only. I'm guessing this is a media narrative as opposed to anything real. And the nfl already hit him with a bs fine for whiffing and missing jay cutler when trying to push him out of bounds.

Bunch of tards wanting him kicked out of the league
 
2012-11-28 07:58:37 PM  

rorypk: If he is such a dirty player, there's bound to be a lot of film on it. ESPN shows the stomp and the kick to the nuts. Stomp, inexcusable and he got off easy. Kick to the nuts? He was whipped around and was face down inches from the turf when his foot connected. Must be a Jedi to aim that well.

I want to see video of kidney punches and eye gouges while in a pile. Knee shots on OLinemen. I don't see any of this video being shown, ESPN shows the stomp and kick only. I'm guessing this is a media narrative as opposed to anything real. And the nfl already hit him with a bs fine for whiffing and missing jay cutler when trying to push him out of bounds.

Bunch of tards wanting him kicked out of the league


There's this video of him trying to rip Jake Delhomme's head off. It's not just the famous ones on Thanksgiving that we biatch about.
 
2012-11-28 08:01:30 PM  
Is this where we get in line for a $30,000?
 
2012-11-28 08:02:46 PM  

rorypk: I'm guessing this is a media narrative as opposed to anything real.


Perhaps it wasn't a good idea for his first real NFL highlight to be trying to rip off Jake Delhomme's head. Whatever negative perception exists is entirely his own creation.
 
2012-11-28 08:03:35 PM  

Cheesus: There's this video of him trying to rip Jake Delhomme's head off. It's not just the famous ones on Thanksgiving that we biatch about.


D'oh.
 
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