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2012-11-28 02:51:19 PM
I remember a time when you could mentally scar as many of your children as you wanted, and they worked out their resulting issues with alcohol, drugs, and support groups.

Damned internet and blogs ruined everything.
 
2012-11-28 03:11:17 PM

Lucky LaRue: I remember a time when you could mentally scar as many of your children as you wanted, and they worked out their resulting issues with alcohol, drugs, and support groups.

Damned internet and blogs ruined everything.


Better to work your daddy issues out on Tumblr than on the pole, I guess.
 
2012-11-28 03:17:26 PM
Wow.
That is a wacky website.
 
2012-11-28 03:21:45 PM
I think if you click on all the ads on that site at once Dr. John Harvey Kellogg springs from your computer screen and gives you an enema with an unpeeled pineapple while connecting your nipples to a malfunctioning Jacob's Ladder all in the name of treating your Brain Fevers.
 
2012-11-28 03:28:29 PM

Earpj: Wow.
That is a wacky website.


Seriously. Here's is what else they have to offer: Global government now seeks total control over the internet.
 
2012-11-28 03:29:22 PM
little suzy cried because mommy drinks. it's a vicious cycle.
 
2012-11-28 03:35:03 PM
img.bleacherreport.net
 
2012-11-28 03:36:46 PM

JerseyTim:

Seriously. Here's is what else they have to offer: Global government now seeks total control over the internet.


I was really enjoying the one about medical terrorism in Michigan.

That's some weapons grade derp right there.
 
2012-11-28 03:38:08 PM

Earpj: JerseyTim:

Seriously. Here's is what else they have to offer: Global government now seeks total control over the internet.

I was really enjoying the one about medical terrorism in Michigan.

That's some weapons grade derp right there.


Derpy, but this article was accurate. Sometimes you find that the derpiest sites have one or two articles that make you go "...oh. Jeeze. Yeah, I get why you're farked up now".
 
2012-11-28 03:38:18 PM
Bad parents don't know they're bad parents. That's why they don't do it better.
 
2012-11-28 03:38:45 PM

JerseyTim: Earpj: Wow.
That is a wacky website.

Seriously. Here's is what else they have to offer: Global government now seeks total control over the internet.


You're picking on the wrong stuff:
• The government's demonic strategy against parents of autistic children

• U.S. Supreme Court denies parents of vaccine damaged children their right to seek justice

• State-sponsored medical terrorism: Texas authorities arrest parents, kidnap their teenage daughter, and force her through chemotherapy against her will

• Medical terrorism in Michigan? Parents forced by the state to poison their child with cancer-causing chemicals
 
2012-11-28 03:38:53 PM
images.somethingawful.com
 
2012-11-28 03:39:43 PM
That's some Sleepaway Camp-level shiat.
 
2012-11-28 03:40:25 PM
I could get past the picture of the lady at the top of the website who looks like she threw up into her hands and wants to show us, but I couldn't get past the first sentence of the article.
 
2012-11-28 03:41:57 PM
Should have pulled out and shot the load on your mom's chest seems to have missed the list
 
2012-11-28 03:42:11 PM
They forgot:

My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.

I can't be sure that you're my offspring because your mom is a whore, so I'm going to make you the object of my resentment because I don't know who your mom was banging.

I hate that you are not Me v2.0. Why can't you be more like me.

I hate you because you're gay.
 
2012-11-28 03:42:53 PM
There is some truth to this blog.

I know that I resented that my dad divorced my mom. Even though he was actively involved etc etc there was just something that always bothered me as a younger person. As I have gotten older and see him more of guy vs. my dad it is much easier to understand the decisions he made etc. I might not like some of those decisions but as man to man it is much more understandable and I can relate to it much more easily than I could at 15 or so.

I think a lot of it comes from experience with love. Love isn't always great or easy. I don't think you really learn that until you get older.
 
2012-11-28 03:43:16 PM
It's a good thing bad parents spend a lot of time looking at natural foods websites for parenting tips. This article will obviously have a major effect.
 
2012-11-28 03:43:53 PM
Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.
 
2012-11-28 03:44:25 PM

cgraves67: They forgot:

My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.

I can't be sure that you're my offspring because your mom is a whore, so I'm going to make you the object of my resentment because I don't know who your mom was banging.

I hate that you are not Me v2.0. Why can't you be more like me.

I hate you because you're gay.


Come on, let it all out. You're doing good.
 
2012-11-28 03:44:32 PM

cryinoutloud: Bad parents don't know they're bad parents. That's why they don't do it better.


This. Most/all of the list entries are things the bad parent(s) would have to admit to themselves before they admitted it to the kids.
 
2012-11-28 03:45:08 PM
How about we studied developmental psychology as intently as our faculties allowed and inverted the lessons and applied them to you systematically and collusively because we are sadists and ontologically inferior.

// not bitter, really
//Happy Holidays
 
2012-11-28 03:45:13 PM
They also left out, sorry but you're just an insecure twit who needs to blame others for your own problems.
 
2012-11-28 03:45:34 PM
"I just wanted a blowjob"

"Your mother said she was on birth control"

"Planned Parenthood was closed that day"
 
2012-11-28 03:45:49 PM
And they forgot: I let you become a hopeless, self-absorbed little brat because I'm a spineless little pussy, who bought into the time-out cop-out and thought Ritalin would solve everything.
 
2012-11-28 03:46:07 PM
If you are the second child, and you are the same gender as your older sibling, you were the wrong gender. We didn't want you. If you are the 3rd child, and you are the same gender as your 2 older siblings, you are the wrong gender. We didn't want you. Etc...
 
2012-11-28 03:46:32 PM
This article is pretty spot on in some areas, I am tempted, but hesitant to show it to my wife "You were supposed to know what I wanted you to do without my needing to tell you," "You were supposed to know how to do things without my needing to teach you," and "If you made mistakes, I withheld my love. My child doesn't make mistakes!" are all pretty spot on for her family.

I'm not sure her mother has ever told her she loved her....
 
2012-11-28 03:46:38 PM
"Mommy doesn't love me any more, that's why I love you more".....

1.bp.blogspot.com

/few bites.
 
2012-11-28 03:47:25 PM

cgraves67: They forgot:

My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.

I can't be sure that you're my offspring because your mom is a whore, so I'm going to make you the object of my resentment because I don't know who your mom was banging.

I hate that you are not Me v2.0. Why can't you be more like me.

I hate you because you're gay.


"I'm gay because you scarred me from ever having a hereo relationship" would be the perfect response.
 
2012-11-28 03:47:27 PM

Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.


Not many aborted fetuses posting on Fark these days...
 
2012-11-28 03:48:02 PM
cryinoutloud:

Bad parents don't know they're bad parents. That's why they don't do it better.

Don't you think they can compare themselves and their kids to other families? I know I'll never write as well as Henry James. Or are they like my parents? My dad did the best he could with the little he had...

By the way, my mommy cries because I drink: memories of my childhood make me more likely to buy a case of Old Crow than a Greyhound ticket. I might make it for her 80th birthday if my sister flies me in.

PPPPP!!1!!!
 
2012-11-28 03:48:03 PM

cgraves67: My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.


Actually, my wife could say this one. And it's killing me. She leaves the house for 6 hours for a ride on her motorcycle say, twice a week.., I stay home with my son. Suddenly, I'm not paying enough attention to her and we should consider ourselves "separated". Really?
 
2012-11-28 03:48:14 PM
everyone is a psycho except me.
 
2012-11-28 03:48:52 PM

Nana's Vibrator: Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.

Not many aborted fetuses posting on Fark these days...


I was wondering what happened to GrablesDaughter...
 
2012-11-28 03:49:01 PM

JerseyTim: Earpj: Wow.
That is a wacky website.

Seriously. Here's is what else they have to offer: Global government now seeks total control over the internet.


And any site that links to folks selling colloidal silver is legit in my book.
 
2012-11-28 03:49:28 PM

ChipNASA: "Mommy doesn't love me any more, that's why I love you more".....

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 237x320]

/few bites.


Okay, that's literally "throw up in my mouth" disturbing...
 
2012-11-28 03:49:38 PM

ChipNASA: "Mommy doesn't love me any more, that's why I love you more".....

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 237x320]

/few bites.


Hey! I haven't seen that one in a long time.
 
2012-11-28 03:49:51 PM
Garbage. All children, at some point, hate their parents. It might be for a moment, or weeks, or even years. You can't grow up if you don't break away and learn to make your own call on how you would have done things within the context of how you do them now. But unless the parents were truly abusive, their children will always love them. The "horrible" truths they're talking about are a fantasy applicable in truth to only a small fraction of cases.

I'm sure my kids will come to me at some point and tell me why they thought I was a shiatty parent, or why they disagreed with the decisions I made and took, or why they hate me. And the best I'm going to be able to do is to tell them the reasons why I did what I did, admit that I make mistakes all the time, and hope that if they can't not judge me for the calls I made, that they can at least forgive me for making them -- because they are my reason for being.
 
2012-11-28 03:49:58 PM

Grapple: cgraves67: My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.

Actually, my wife could say this one. And it's killing me. She leaves the house for 6 hours for a ride on her motorcycle say, twice a week.., I stay home with my son. Suddenly, I'm not paying enough attention to her and we should consider ourselves "separated". Really?


Sounds like she's riding more than a motorcycle to me.
 
2012-11-28 03:50:30 PM
This should be good ...
 
2012-11-28 03:50:48 PM
"Men are pigs." I guess that makes women pigfarkers?
 
2012-11-28 03:50:53 PM
I abused you because it will make you more accepting, and possibly more susceptible to abusive relationships in the future. That priest was able to touch you because I broke down those barriers! Give a little credit where credit is due!
 
2012-11-28 03:50:56 PM

Grapple: cgraves67: My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.

Actually, my wife could say this one. And it's killing me. She leaves the house for 6 hours for a ride on her motorcycle say, twice a week.., I stay home with my son. Suddenly, I'm not paying enough attention to her and we should consider ourselves "separated". Really?


"Going for a 6 hour ride on the motorcycle", little do you know the hot new guy in accounting is named Harley...
 
2012-11-28 03:51:00 PM
"Men are pigs. You were a boy trying to become a man. I tried to turn you into a girl to prevent you from becoming a pig."

How do people become transsexuals, again?
 
2012-11-28 03:51:30 PM
Oh, I think we can add to this list:

> "I like drugs more than I like children. Now, if your mother had given birth to a seven pound bag of meth I'd have been Father of the Year. I blame her."

> "I just didn't feel like Jerry Sandusky should be able to have all of the fun".

> "Look, I had a lot of women. It costs more to buy formula for your ass than it did for me to buy a lady a Cognac. I had to make some tough decisions. Hell, you should be apologizing to ME for all of that cock-blocking you did."
 
2012-11-28 03:52:23 PM

cryinoutloud: Bad parents don't know care that they're bad parents. That's why they don't do it better.


Fixed that for you. They know. They just don't care.
 
2012-11-28 03:52:26 PM

Nana's Vibrator: Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.

Not many aborted fetuses posting on Fark these days...


Yeah, fark atheists will love this one... the reason I think I wasn't aborted was the two of them were too chickenshiat to do it because they thought they'd go to hell...

God saved me... literally.
 
2012-11-28 03:52:27 PM

omelete: Grapple: cgraves67: My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.

Actually, my wife could say this one. And it's killing me. She leaves the house for 6 hours for a ride on her motorcycle say, twice a week.., I stay home with my son. Suddenly, I'm not paying enough attention to her and we should consider ourselves "separated". Really?

Sounds like she's riding more than a motorcycle to me.


Sharpshooter! This one is obvious.
 
2012-11-28 03:52:28 PM
I didn't need to tell you what the rules of the house were. There was only one rule: Don't piss me off!

Dad?

/fine, I'll get ya another beer
 
2012-11-28 03:53:05 PM

Grapple: ChipNASA: "Mommy doesn't love me any more, that's why I love you more".....

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 237x320]

/few bites.

Okay, that's literally "throw up in my mouth" disturbing...


Earpj: ChipNASA: "Mommy doesn't love me any more, that's why I love you more".....

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 237x320]

/few bites.

Hey! I haven't seen that one in a long time.


Really Grapple???

As long as you've been here????

Me to Fark:....
I LEARNED IT BY WATCHING YOU!!!!

datacenteroverlords.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-28 03:53:14 PM

omelete: Grapple: cgraves67: My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.

Actually, my wife could say this one. And it's killing me. She leaves the house for 6 hours for a ride on her motorcycle say, twice a week.., I stay home with my son. Suddenly, I'm not paying enough attention to her and we should consider ourselves "separated". Really?

Sounds like she's riding more than a motorcycle to me.


This.
 
2012-11-28 03:53:17 PM
You kids aren't the totality of my existence..

Still not feeling any regret for feeling that way!

/bad parent
 
2012-11-28 03:53:24 PM
That was significantly more stupid than I expected.
 
2012-11-28 03:53:35 PM

ChipNASA: "Mommy doesn't love me any more, that's why I love you more".....

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 237x320]

/few bites.

 

www.toomanymornings.com
 
2012-11-28 03:54:34 PM
"I got pregnant to trap your father and found out it wasn't worth the effort."
 
2012-11-28 03:54:43 PM

Poo_Fight: "Men are pigs." I guess that makes women pigfarkers?


You better be careful who you call a child, Lois. Because if I'm a child, then you know what that makes you? A pedophile.
 
2012-11-28 03:54:51 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: everyone is a psycho except me.


Kind of treading in Dewayne Hoover territory there...
 
2012-11-28 03:55:24 PM
Missing from the list: "God doesn't exist."


/c'mon, take the bait...,
 
2012-11-28 03:55:55 PM
Best part of you ran down the crack of your momma's ass.
 
2012-11-28 03:56:05 PM
Dammit, boy! You hit that lineman low, ya hear! *boom!* Like that! Now get up! I didn't raise no sissy! 

/Wayne, he's 6.
//Shut up!
 
2012-11-28 03:57:16 PM
I forced you to act how I needed you to act and do what I needed you to do. You were a reflection of me

Nothing wrong with this. If your kid is running around like a farking lunatic while you sit completely oblivious or ignoring it, you bet your ass I'm looking at you like you're the asshole. Your kid is an asshole too but only because his asshole parents allow him/her to be.
 
2012-11-28 03:57:29 PM
That reads more like a list of "things spoiled angsty teenagers often assume, because they don't know shiat about anything and are utterly incapable of considering their parents as individual persons who simply cannot live, 100%, 24x7, by and for their childrens' whims".

Sure, there are bad parents out there. But, overwhelmingly, it's because they're abusive.
Most of that psycho-trauma "i'm screwed up because mom wanted a daughter" nonsense is oversold. There simply aren't that many cases like that.
 
2012-11-28 03:57:40 PM
Well, this thread certainly seems well adjusted.

*backs out slowly*
 
2012-11-28 03:57:41 PM
Fark Rye For Many Whores:
State-sponsored medical terrorism: Texas authorities arrest parents, kidnap their teenage daughter, and force her through chemotherapy against her will

Chemotherapy? Those monsters. I'm sure wheatgrass smoothies and a good cleanse would have taken care of those naughty little neoplastic cells and set everything right, without using chemicals.

Grapple:
She leaves the house for 6 hours for a ride on her motorcycle say, twice a week.., I stay home with my son. Suddenly, I'm not paying enough attention to her and we should consider ourselves "separated". Really?

Hide a GPS on the bike, then take the fact that it's parked in the lot at the motel for 10 hours a week straight to court. Lawyer up, delete Facebook and hit the gym.
 
2012-11-28 03:59:04 PM

Earpj: JerseyTim:

Seriously. Here's is what else they have to offer: Global government now seeks total control over the internet.

I was really enjoying the one about medical terrorism in Michigan.

That's some weapons grade derp right there.


Ahh it can't be that bad...

"Yes, these pediatric oncologists are some of the most evil, unethical, and downright criminal minds you will find in the medical system today. Far from helping children, they are engaged in mass poisoning crimes that rival the gassing of Jews in Nazi Germany."

...jesus christ...
 
2012-11-28 03:59:10 PM

ltdanman44: ChipNASA: "Mommy doesn't love me any more, that's why I love you more".....

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 237x320]

/few bites. 

[www.toomanymornings.com image 460x300]


t1ak.roblox.com 2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-28 03:59:18 PM

Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.


I could one up this easily, but I'd rather not start a pissing contest over who had the worst parents.
 
2012-11-28 03:59:41 PM
Litig8r:

But unless the parents were truly abusive, their children will always love them.

You sound like a parent who makes Affirmatives Statements at the mirror several times a day. Oh, you take child custody & child support cases for free? Hmm.

What's the difference between loving your parents and Stockholm Syndrome? (No, that's not a rhetorical question.)

Anyway.

Something I can't get: why don't these guys realize paying her to keep the kids beats getting saddled with them themselves? "If I pay your Mom double can you stay away next month? There's a case of Old Crow out there with my name on it." (Yes, this paragraph is supposed to be funny.)
 
2012-11-28 04:00:31 PM
www.naturalnews.com
 
2012-11-28 04:00:51 PM

cgraves67: They forgot:

I hate that you are not Me v2.0. Why can't you be more like me.


I've always thought I would have had an easier time of it if I were a little less like my dad. (We get along fine now, but he's a stubborn cuss, and so am I. The teen years were interesting.

I hate you because you're gay.

Oh... you had to go there.

::kicks dirt and sticks hands in pockets::

It's so farking depressing what some people will do to their kids, man. Their own damn kids.
 
2012-11-28 04:01:29 PM

ChipNASA: "Mommy doesn't love me any more, that's why I love you more".....

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 237x320]

/few bites.


I don't... I mean... what the... huh???
 
2012-11-28 04:03:29 PM

lousyskater: Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.

I could one up this easily, but I'd rather not start a pissing contest over who had the worst parents.


Shame. I am racking my brain trying to figure out what is worse than "we wanted to abort you but were too ashamed."
 
2012-11-28 04:04:28 PM
I really wanted a boy and you were a girl, so I lost interest.

WHAT A DICK!!!

/Shut up biatch, and get me 'nother beer from the cooler by the outhouse.
//I said get me a beer. Jesus hates you and so do I.
 
2012-11-28 04:06:09 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Grapple: cgraves67: My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.

Actually, my wife could say this one. And it's killing me. She leaves the house for 6 hours for a ride on her motorcycle say, twice a week.., I stay home with my son. Suddenly, I'm not paying enough attention to her and we should consider ourselves "separated". Really?

"Going for a 6 hour ride on the motorcycle", little do you know the hot new guy in accounting is named Harley...


Oh Zing!
The full moon is bringing out the kindness on Fark today.


trivial use of my dark powers: "I got pregnant to trap your father and found out it wasn't worth the effort."


See also, "In my day birth control wasn't available. If it were my life would have been much different.
 
2012-11-28 04:06:31 PM
For MonkeyDavid
from the F-18 thread

i.imgur.com

"Hey Hey HEY HEY...Momma's Boy, Momma's Boy....I bet you're gonna cry...Come on, Momma's boy....Let's see ya cry.....squirt a few.....come on...cry.....come on, cry....Come on COME ON....
just a few....come on......come on....Squirt A Few... Come On, Let me see you squirt a few. Come On CRY. CRY....1...2...3...CRY........1...2...3...CRY....Come on...CRY...Come on Baby....come on little girl...CRY for me...my baby daughter...cry for me...I SWEAR TO GOD, YOU'RE MY SWEETEST LITTLE GIRL!!!!!!"

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-28 04:08:02 PM
Also missing: Why can't you be as hot as your sister?

But enough about Ashlee Simpson
 
2012-11-28 04:08:39 PM

pxlboy: omelete: Grapple: cgraves67: My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.

Actually, my wife could say this one. And it's killing me. She leaves the house for 6 hours for a ride on her motorcycle say, twice a week.., I stay home with my son. Suddenly, I'm not paying enough attention to her and we should consider ourselves "separated". Really?

Sounds like she's riding more than a motorcycle to me.

This.


The thought had crossed my mind.
 
2012-11-28 04:08:44 PM
abhorrent1:

Your kid is an asshole too but only because his asshole parents allow him/her to be.

Actually in my case it was partly because I got bigger and stronger than they were before I was supposed to. YMMV.
 
2012-11-28 04:09:38 PM

ChipNASA: Really Grapple???

As long as you've been here????


In all fairness.... I took a break now and then (and haven't been TF'ing for some time...(where the real weirdos hang out hehe)
 
2012-11-28 04:09:46 PM
farm5.staticflickr.com.

Dad NO!
 
2012-11-28 04:10:01 PM

The One True TheDavid: What's the difference between loving your parents and Stockholm Syndrome? (No, that's not a rhetorical question.)


One is a form of trauma bonding involving dominant and submissive parties through which the submissive party identifies with the dominant party as a survival and dissonance minimizing mechanism to resolve a negative and inescapable situation.

The other involves a Swedish bank robbery.
 
2012-11-28 04:10:13 PM

The One True TheDavid: cryinoutloud:Bad parents don't know they're bad parents. That's why they don't do it better.
Don't you think they can compare themselves and their kids to other families? I know I'll never write as well as Henry James. Or are they like my parents? My dad did the best he could with the little he had...


Some of them can, and they get better, and their kids do better. But some of them are pretty ignorant, and they just figure that anyone who raises their kids differently than they do is stupid--without realizing that they're the party that's stupid.

Look how much arguing there is about parenting among people whose kids will probably all turn out OK, regardless of how much people disagree about it. And nobody really knows the "right" way anyhow, so if you learned a shiatty way to raise your kids and you're fine with it (after all, that's how you were raised!), then you won't know any different until it's too late to fix it. And it's also a fact that some very shiatty parents have children that turn out all right, and vice-versa. So if you're trying to tell someone the "right" way to raise kids, you're on pretty shaky ground, no matter WTF is going on in that house.

Smelly Pirate Hooker: cryinoutloud: Bad parents don't know care that they're bad parents. That's why they don't do it better.
Fixed that for you. They know. They just don't care.


no, a lot of them really don't know. They think they're fine parents. But their parents were shiatty parents, and their parents before them, and well, how is anyone supposed to learn how to be a good parent if they aren't that smart and never had a good role model?

This isn't rocket science. Except on Fark, apparently, where everyone is supposed to have bootstraps that not only bail them out of poverty, but teach them every single social skill in the world.
 
2012-11-28 04:10:37 PM

Grapple: pxlboy: omelete: Grapple: cgraves67: My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.

Actually, my wife could say this one. And it's killing me. She leaves the house for 6 hours for a ride on her motorcycle say, twice a week.., I stay home with my son. Suddenly, I'm not paying enough attention to her and we should consider ourselves "separated". Really?

Sounds like she's riding more than a motorcycle to me.

This.

The thought had crossed my mind.


you are awfully nonchalant about this whole situation!!!!
 
2012-11-28 04:10:50 PM

The One True TheDavid: "Men are pigs. You were a boy trying to become a man. I tried to turn you into a girl to prevent you from becoming a pig."

How do people become transsexuals, again?


This guy's pathology is a thousand times more savage and terrifying
 
2012-11-28 04:10:53 PM

lousyskater: Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.

I could one up this easily, but I'd rather not start a pissing contest over who had the worst parents.


It really wasn't meant to be a pissing contest. I find when I hear other people's stories of bad parenting, it makes me feel a little better that I'm not alone and that someone out there *somewhere* understands what I went through.

I have a friend who probably went through worse things than me... like his mom cut him with a broken ashtray and that's why he has that big scar on his forearm kind of things. I'm fairly certain the reason I'm semi-well adjusted despite what I went through is because I talk about it.

My friend doesn't. He also keeps to himself, doesn't have many friends, hasn't had a girlfriend in years and is approaching 40. -He's a great guy, and would make a great dad, but he thinks he's so broken that he doesn't deserve to be happy. If me sharing some of my crappy childhood experiences helps anyone here realize things can be okay... I will.

/sorry your stories can beat mine. I hope everything turns out all right for you in the end.
 
2012-11-28 04:12:24 PM

themanuf: lousyskater: Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.

I could one up this easily, but I'd rather not start a pissing contest over who had the worst parents.

Shame. I am racking my brain trying to figure out what is worse than "we wanted to abort you but were too ashamed."


I'll just say this: There were random heroin needles lying around in the apartment in plain sight with an 8 year old me and a 4 year old brother living in said apartment. As far as I'm gonna go.
 
2012-11-28 04:12:34 PM
"You were supposed to know what I wanted you to do without my needing to tell you."

bad parent girlfriend

/or both, i guess
 
2012-11-28 04:12:59 PM

Nana's Vibrator: If you are the second child, and you are the same gender as your older sibling, you were the wrong gender. We didn't want you. If you are the 3rd child, and you are the same gender as your 2 older siblings, you are the wrong gender. We didn't want you. Etc...


As the father of three boys, I'm getting a kick. I jumped for joy every time I heard our new kid was going to be the same gender. Didn't have to buy new toys, new clothes, new decorating, etc...
 
2012-11-28 04:13:57 PM

dv-ous: cgraves67:

I hate you because you're gay.

Oh... you had to go there.

::kicks dirt and sticks hands in pockets::

It's so farking depressing what some people will do to their kids, man. Their own damn kids.


My oldest brother is gay. My father (Dad's not his bio dad, but raised him) was a tough old bird. We didn't tell Dad about it b/c we feared that Dad would kick Scott out. He didn't. Seemed to actually accept Scott and his partner of...geezz...about 25 years now
. ..
Shortly before Dad passed, in 08, he told my Mom that he didn't care that Scott was gay. That was his son, and he loved him.
When Mom told me about it, she said that she'd always thought that my dad had hated Scott.
Dad was not very demonstrative. He showed affection in small ways. Money for a magazine, teaching the boys how to build an engine, taking the girls fishing, so I guess I can see how she thought that.

Anyway...it got dusty in here, and I've forgotten where I was going with this...Umm...I had a kick-ass Dad and my Mom rocks. :)
 
2012-11-28 04:14:18 PM
"You had BETTER be the MOST PERFECT well behaved, charming child to showcase to all my friends at their endless cocktail parties!"

*swigs gin martini*

...I, I'm sorry where was i?
 
2012-11-28 04:14:50 PM

Grapple: cgraves67: My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.

Actually, my wife could say this one. And it's killing me. She leaves the house for 6 hours for a ride on her motorcycle say, twice a week.., I stay home with my son. Suddenly, I'm not paying enough attention to her and we should consider ourselves "separated". Really?


She ain't riding a motorcycle.
 
2012-11-28 04:14:58 PM
I'm the reason my parents told me to never buy off-brand condoms, so I've got that going for me.
 
2012-11-28 04:15:15 PM
Missing from the list: "Listen son, your mom and I are getting divorced because apparently women go batshiat insane after 30. I don't know, I didn't really do a lot of research or anything. I'll call you when I get settled. Okay, good talk, champ."

My dad told me that.

Grew up thinking marriage was a dying institution.
 
2012-11-28 04:15:27 PM

thebleedingthumb: Grapple: pxlboy: omelete: Grapple: cgraves67: My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.

Actually, my wife could say this one. And it's killing me. She leaves the house for 6 hours for a ride on her motorcycle say, twice a week.., I stay home with my son. Suddenly, I'm not paying enough attention to her and we should consider ourselves "separated". Really?

Sounds like she's riding more than a motorcycle to me.

This.

The thought had crossed my mind.

you are awfully nonchalant about this whole situation!!!!


I'm still wondering if I should care to be honest. I was told via email that I was apparently separated from my wife. I realize it's the 21st century, but you really could only tell me this over email? While I was in an all-day meeting? and then transfer all your angst over to me as "it's your call how we handle it from here". Maybe I'm just better off without someone so ... erratic in my life.
 
2012-11-28 04:15:39 PM

cryinoutloud


Except on Fark, apparently, where everyone is supposed to have bootstraps that not only bail them out of poverty, but teach them every single social skill in the world.


o_O
 
2012-11-28 04:16:04 PM

ChipNASA: For MonkeyDavid
from the F-18 thread

[i.imgur.com image 500x333]

"Hey Hey HEY HEY...Momma's Boy, Momma's Boy....I bet you're gonna cry...Come on, Momma's boy....Let's see ya cry.....squirt a few.....come on...cry.....come on, cry....Come on COME ON....
just a few....come on......come on....Squirt A Few... Come On, Let me see you squirt a few. Come On CRY. CRY....1...2...3...CRY........1...2...3...CRY....Come on...CRY...Come on Baby....come on little girl...CRY for me...my baby daughter...cry for me...I SWEAR TO GOD, YOU'RE MY SWEETEST LITTLE GIRL!!!!!!"

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 500x300]


That was a great movie. Before it was released in the theaters as The Great Santini, Warner Brothers gave it a trial run on HBO under the title The Ace.
 
2012-11-28 04:16:44 PM

Nana's Vibrator: If you are the second child, and you are the same gender as your older sibling, you were the wrong gender. We didn't want you. If you are the 3rd child, and you are the same gender as your 2 older siblings, you are the wrong gender. We didn't want you. Etc...


My ex husband cried when he saw that our third child was another girl. Then when the boys came he left. Turns out getting a boy (or boys) didn't make him happy in the way he thought it would. Some people are really farked up. Me? I am happy with all the kids! They are awesome. Couldn't give a shiat what gender they are.
 
2012-11-28 04:19:26 PM

Grapple: ChipNASA: Really Grapple???

As long as you've been here????

In all fairness.... I took a break now and then (and haven't been TF'ing for some time...(where the real weirdos hang out hehe)


It's all good.....
 
2012-11-28 04:19:46 PM

Gabrielmot: lousyskater: Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.

I could one up this easily, but I'd rather not start a pissing contest over who had the worst parents.

It really wasn't meant to be a pissing contest. I find when I hear other people's stories of bad parenting, it makes me feel a little better that I'm not alone and that someone out there *somewhere* understands what I went through.

I have a friend who probably went through worse things than me... like his mom cut him with a broken ashtray and that's why he has that big scar on his forearm kind of things. I'm fairly certain the reason I'm semi-well adjusted despite what I went through is because I talk about it.

My friend doesn't. He also keeps to himself, doesn't have many friends, hasn't had a girlfriend in years and is approaching 40. -He's a great guy, and would make a great dad, but he thinks he's so broken that he doesn't deserve to be happy. If me sharing some of my crappy childhood experiences helps anyone here realize things can be okay... I will.

/sorry your stories can beat mine. I hope everything turns out all right for you in the end.


upload.wikimedia.org

Would like a word with you.

"My parents' divorce settlement involved a bar tab. "
 
2012-11-28 04:20:28 PM
This thread is not sitting well with my wife's pregnancy.
 
2012-11-28 04:20:43 PM

Grapple: thebleedingthumb: Grapple: pxlboy: omelete: Grapple: cgraves67: My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.

Actually, my wife could say this one. And it's killing me. She leaves the house for 6 hours for a ride on her motorcycle say, twice a week.., I stay home with my son. Suddenly, I'm not paying enough attention to her and we should consider ourselves "separated". Really?

Sounds like she's riding more than a motorcycle to me.

This.

The thought had crossed my mind.

you are awfully nonchalant about this whole situation!!!!

I'm still wondering if I should care to be honest. I was told via email that I was apparently separated from my wife. I realize it's the 21st century, but you really could only tell me this over email? While I was in an all-day meeting? and then transfer all your angst over to me as "it's your call how we handle it from here". Maybe I'm just better off without someone so ... erratic in my life.


Agreed ... in fact acting like you don't give a crap will probably make her feel worse about her whoring life. Good on you sir!!!
 
2012-11-28 04:21:30 PM

Earpj: Wow.
That is a wacky website.


It's infowars for the greenwashed.
 
2012-11-28 04:22:24 PM

Grapple: thebleedingthumb: Grapple: pxlboy: omelete: Grapple: cgraves67: My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.

Actually, my wife could say this one. And it's killing me. She leaves the house for 6 hours for a ride on her motorcycle say, twice a week.., I stay home with my son. Suddenly, I'm not paying enough attention to her and we should consider ourselves "separated". Really?

Sounds like she's riding more than a motorcycle to me.

This.

The thought had crossed my mind.

you are awfully nonchalant about this whole situation!!!!

I'm still wondering if I should care to be honest. I was told via email that I was apparently separated from my wife. I realize it's the 21st century, but you really could only tell me this over email? While I was in an all-day meeting? and then transfer all your angst over to me as "it's your call how we handle it from here". Maybe I'm just better off without someone so ... erratic in my life.


Hey don't feel too bad. My wife came home, unloaded 10 years of hating me all at once, packed her bags and left one day. I knew we didn't have a great relationship but never saw that one coming. We never discussed it or any options, just came home and said "I'm done, goodbye".

Conveniently somehow someone where she worked had taken an interest in her. And her father had just left her about $40,000. None of that was mentioned in her goodbye speech.
 
2012-11-28 04:22:38 PM
I came from a broken home. I remember one boozy Christmas Eve when I confronted my mother with, "what have you ever done for me?!" She quipped, "Carried you full term!"

/not mine.
 
2012-11-28 04:22:51 PM
Here's one most Farkers never got: You aren't as smart as you think you are, and you are not important at all, in the grand scheme of things.

Accept that and become happier.
 
2012-11-28 04:24:08 PM

lousyskater: themanuf: lousyskater: Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.

I could one up this easily, but I'd rather not start a pissing contest over who had the worst parents.

Shame. I am racking my brain trying to figure out what is worse than "we wanted to abort you but were too ashamed."

I'll just say this: There were random heroin needles lying around in the apartment in plain sight with an 8 year old me and a 4 year old brother living in said apartment. As far as I'm gonna go.


Well damn, that is what I get for only thinking about verbal abuse. I had a sheltered upbringing and as a result my worldview can at times be rather limited. Hence my, now obviously, ignorant comment. I suppose not imagining such a set of circumstances might exist is a good thing, but only from the naive ignorance is bliss standpoint.
 
2012-11-28 04:24:30 PM

thebleedingthumb: Grapple: thebleedingthumb: Grapple: pxlboy: omelete: Grapple: cgraves67: My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.

Actually, my wife could say this one. And it's killing me. She leaves the house for 6 hours for a ride on her motorcycle say, twice a week.., I stay home with my son. Suddenly, I'm not paying enough attention to her and we should consider ourselves "separated". Really?

Sounds like she's riding more than a motorcycle to me.

This.

The thought had crossed my mind.

you are awfully nonchalant about this whole situation!!!!

I'm still wondering if I should care to be honest. I was told via email that I was apparently separated from my wife. I realize it's the 21st century, but you really could only tell me this over email? While I was in an all-day meeting? and then transfer all your angst over to me as "it's your call how we handle it from here". Maybe I'm just better off without someone so ... erratic in my life.

Agreed ... in fact acting like you don't give a crap will probably make her feel worse about her whoring life. Good on you sir!!!


The fact that he doesn't care might be a sign of his general attitude which caused her to step out in the first place. My girlfriend hit me in the head with a folding chair once while I was playing Call of Duty, because I "wasn't paying enough attention to her." Women sometimes do weird shiat when they feel they're being ignored.
 
2012-11-28 04:24:37 PM

Gunny Highway: [farm5.staticflickr.com image 375x511].

Dad NO!


Quick CSB:

When I was in 11th grade I had a girlfriend who slept in a basement bedroom. Every once in a while I'd slip over to her house in the middle of the night and creep out of the basement door before the sun came up. One night, she called me about 2 am (before cell phones) whispering on the other line for me to PLEASE come to her house as soon as possible (which wasn't easy to do now that my mother was woke). Anywho, I got there and she was told me that while she was sleeping, she heard something that made her open her eyes. She awoke to find the silhouette of her step-father standing in her doorway in nothing but underwear...just staring. She didn't move because she didn't want him to know she was woke. She just sat there watching him watch her. Said she heard a few noises but she couldn't tell what he was doing. Not sure if it's related, but she had a younger step- brother (12) and a younger half-sister (8). I found out a few years after we broke up that the step-brother got kicked out of the house after they found out he had been molesting his younger sister.


/end CSB
 
2012-11-28 04:24:56 PM

lousyskater: themanuf: lousyskater: Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.

I could one up this easily, but I'd rather not start a pissing contest over who had the worst parents.

Shame. I am racking my brain trying to figure out what is worse than "we wanted to abort you but were too ashamed."

I'll just say this: There were random heroin needles lying around in the apartment in plain sight with an 8 year old me and a 4 year old brother living in said apartment. As far as I'm gonna go.


This one is going to sound hard to believe, but the friend I mentioned earlier had a pretty horrible story as well. Because they were so poor, he had to wash dishes for extra money at the strip club his mother worked at while she was on stage stripping in plain sight of him (same mom who cut him with the broken ashtray). If you didn't guess, she was constantly on drugs as well (still is today).

What really gets me is that despite what she did to him, he's forgiven her and still keeps in contact with her despite the fact it's pretty much a relationship where he takes care of her and keeps her from heading further downhill.

-He's an atheist by the way. One of the few times I totally get the whole atheism thing. I wouldn't have been strong enough to go through what he went through, but every day he still manages to be nice to people who don't deserve it and work hard for a company that treats him like crap. -He's a pretty amazing individual, I only wish I could be as good a Christian as he seems to be despite him being an atheist. -Truly someone to look up to.

Like I said in another thread, some people are who they are because of their parents, some in spite of their parents.
 
2012-11-28 04:25:15 PM

Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.


Mom: "I have no idea what you are talking about, I was never an alcoholic."

This was after I confronted her not long ago about hitting me when I was 12 or so after she found the book "When Mommy Drinks" (hidden underneath my mattress) that the guidance counselor gave me to help cope being left alone with her. There's a lot more issues than that, but I guess it gives you an idea. I felt very abandoned by everyone.

It's gotten better though as I've gotten older. I have a better understanding that she's just human. I just have to keep reminding myself that her depression isn't her fault. I do love her. When she wasn't drunk she was a good mom. She just has issues. A lot of them.

/My mom is still trying to keep that "perfect upper middle class white picket fence family" thing up

cookiefleck: "You had BETTER be the MOST PERFECT well behaved, charming child to showcase to all my friends at their endless cocktail parties!"

*swigs gin martini*

...I, I'm sorry where was i?


Omg, story of my life :-)
 
2012-11-28 04:25:15 PM

DeathCipris: Would like a word with you.

"My parents' divorce settlement involved a bar tab. "



"Once you've driven your drunk mother to your father's parole hearing, what else is there?"...
 
2012-11-28 04:25:54 PM

GORDON: Here's one most Farkers never got: You aren't as smart as you think you are, and you are not important at all, in the grand scheme of things.

Accept that and become happier.


nooooooooooooooo.com
 
2012-11-28 04:26:21 PM
You know, there's one out there that I'm surprised nobody has mentioned yet:

"No."
 
2012-11-28 04:26:42 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Gunny Highway: [farm5.staticflickr.com image 375x511].

Dad NO!

Quick CSB:

When I was in 11th grade I had a girlfriend who slept in a basement bedroom. Every once in a while I'd slip over to her house in the middle of the night and creep out of the basement door before the sun came up. One night, she called me about 2 am (before cell phones) whispering on the other line for me to PLEASE come to her house as soon as possible (which wasn't easy to do now that my mother was woke). Anywho, I got there and she was told me that while she was sleeping, she heard something that made her open her eyes. She awoke to find the silhouette of her step-father standing in her doorway in nothing but underwear...just staring. She didn't move because she didn't want him to know she was woke. She just sat there watching him watch her. Said she heard a few noises but she couldn't tell what he was doing. Not sure if it's related, but she had a younger step- brother (12) and a younger half-sister (8). I found out a few years after we broke up that the step-brother got kicked out of the house after they found out he had been molesting his younger sister.


/end CSB


Jesus. Well, that is what NMN describes in the song. That is haunting.
 
2012-11-28 04:27:13 PM
ringersol:

Most of that psycho-trauma "i'm screwed up because mom wanted a daughter" nonsense is oversold. There simply aren't that many cases like that.

Do you mean because parents seldom do that or because parents are irrelevant?

I'm screwed up because my mother wanted a Mama's Boy and I didn't want to do that. She's always said that straight to everybody's face, except she spouted the definition instead of the term itself. (How many mothers will come out and say "I want my son to be a Mama's Boy!"?) Everybody told me that, including the shrinks & social workers that got dragged into my life because my mother got the juvenile court system to punish me for being "bad." See, they can't say "Mrs. TheDavid's Mother, your son locks the door and won't come out and hitchhiked to Florida at age 12 because you yell insanely at him for every little thing; the fact is you're a psycho hosebeast any kid would want nothing to do with." Oh no, that would violate established procedures and professional ethics. Children are the parents property after all, and she never put a physical mark on me and certainly gave me too much attention to be accused of neglect.

But anyway.
 
2012-11-28 04:27:22 PM

mytdawg: "Once you've driven your drunk mother to your father's parole hearing, what else is there?"...


Well that's backwards... hangs head in shame.

"The great thing about being screwed up is that nothing rattles me. Hey, once you've driven your drunk father to mom's parole hearing, what else is there?" - FTFM
 
2012-11-28 04:29:03 PM
Obligatory?
www.ozpolitic.com 

Or, just GIS and substitute mommy for daddy...
 
2012-11-28 04:29:25 PM

Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.


I made my 7-year-old daughter eat broccoli AND cauliflower in the same day.
 
2012-11-28 04:29:59 PM

The One True TheDavid: How many mothers will come out and say "I want my son to be a Mama's Boy!"?)


Did you have a father around?

My friend has a very similar relationship with his mother. His father died when he was a child and she is incredibly emotionally dependent upon him. VERY "momma's boy". It is starting to interfere with his relationship with his wife.
 
2012-11-28 04:30:00 PM

themanuf: lousyskater: Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.

I could one up this easily, but I'd rather not start a pissing contest over who had the worst parents.

Shame. I am racking my brain trying to figure out what is worse than "we wanted to abort you but were too ashamed."


The situation doesn't seem that bad or uncommon to me (though telling the kids about it is pretty dickish).

I grew up hillbilly; the concept of "planned pregnancy" was pretty foreign. (Studies put it at about half of all pregnancies generally IIRC). So I assume most children had this happen to them before birth (parents arguing about whether or not to abort them / give them up).

/bastard
//doesn't apply to my kids though (both planned), so maybe it's not so ubiquitous
///wouldn't be surprised if that happened with me (mom was 19 and not married to dad who I never met, after all), though since my mom's not evil I don't know for sure
 
2012-11-28 04:30:17 PM
And I agree that the guy whose wife "rides her motorcycle" for 6 hours at a time is probably farking around on him.

Shouldn't be that hard to find out for sure.
 
2012-11-28 04:30:25 PM
Was this on the list?
www.hexan.dk
 
2012-11-28 04:30:34 PM

kindms: There is some truth to this blog.

I know that I resented that my dad divorced my mom. Even though he was actively involved etc etc there was just something that always bothered me as a younger person. As I have gotten older and see him more of guy vs. my dad it is much easier to understand the decisions he made etc. I might not like some of those decisions but as man to man it is much more understandable and I can relate to it much more easily than I could at 15 or so.

I think a lot of it comes from experience with love. Love isn't always great or easy. I don't think you really learn that until you get older.


Yeah, pretty much all 15 year olds' experience with love comes from Disney movies, sitcoms, and movies that all default to a sappy happily ever after ending. Guys and girls alike, even if guys are raging wads of hormones at the time. My dad and step dad were shiatty husbands and shiatty dads, so I didn't overly blame my mom for leaving them, but I didn't know until much later that she cheated on every man in her life repeatedly, with other shiatty men, which is probably part of why they were so angry all the time. There are no heroes in farked up love.

Rosanne is the only TV show when I grew up that even hints at the honest side of love. I didn't understand it then, now I can watch it and recognize my dad's side of the family.
 
2012-11-28 04:31:38 PM
My mom still won't explain to me why she brings an old barely-closeted gay man pretending to be her boyfriend around me when all he does is give me the googley-eyes and winks at me and checks me out every chance he can get and always tells me how cute and "pretty" I am right in front of her damn face.

She hasn't explained to me why she allows him to catcall to me and proposition me for sex and bring me over his weirdo nudist/group sex enthusiats' homes so they can get me alone in their bedrooms to proposition me for sex.

Is it that she wants to watch me have sex with this disgusting older man? Does she get off on the gross attention he gives me? I hate it and I hate him but yet she always brings his dumbass around, asking him to tell me how "good" I look. Its gross, its like my own mother is trying to pimp me out to some disgusting old fruit. Why does she want this??
 
2012-11-28 04:33:17 PM

JasonThomasX: My mom still won't explain to me why she brings an old barely-closeted gay man pretending to be her boyfriend around me when all he does is give me the googley-eyes and winks at me and checks me out every chance he can get and always tells me how cute and "pretty" I am right in front of her damn face.

She hasn't explained to me why she allows him to catcall to me and proposition me for sex and bring me over his weirdo nudist/group sex enthusiats' homes so they can get me alone in their bedrooms to proposition me for sex.

Is it that she wants to watch me have sex with this disgusting older man? Does she get off on the gross attention he gives me? I hate it and I hate him but yet she always brings his dumbass around, asking him to tell me how "good" I look. Its gross, its like my own mother is trying to pimp me out to some disgusting old fruit. Why does she want this??


Because you touch yourself at night.
 
2012-11-28 04:34:00 PM

JasonThomasX: My mom still won't explain to me why she brings an old barely-closeted gay man pretending to be her boyfriend around me when all he does is give me the googley-eyes and winks at me and checks me out every chance he can get and always tells me how cute and "pretty" I am right in front of her damn face.

She hasn't explained to me why she allows him to catcall to me and proposition me for sex and bring me over his weirdo nudist/group sex enthusiats' homes so they can get me alone in their bedrooms to proposition me for sex.

Is it that she wants to watch me have sex with this disgusting older man? Does she get off on the gross attention he gives me? I hate it and I hate him but yet she always brings his dumbass around, asking him to tell me how "good" I look. Its gross, its like my own mother is trying to pimp me out to some disgusting old fruit. Why does she want this??


Beer money!!
 
2012-11-28 04:34:14 PM

Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.


Pfft. All of the actually-aborted children are giving you The Finger right now, from Hell.
 
2012-11-28 04:35:14 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Not sure if it's related, but she had a younger step- brother (12) and a younger half-sister (8). I found out a few years after we broke up that the step-brother got kicked out of the house after they found out he had been molesting his younger sister.


Read today, in a Slate article, about a study that made Fark a few days ago IIRC. They found that women porn actresses had rates of having-been-molested comparable to the general population (instead of higher as people assume).

It offhandedly mentioned said rate amongst the general population: 20-30%.

Holy shiat.
 
2012-11-28 04:38:18 PM

Gabrielmot: Nana's Vibrator: Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.

Not many aborted fetuses posting on Fark these days...

Yeah, fark atheists will love this one... the reason I think I wasn't aborted was the two of them were too chickenshiat to do it because they thought they'd go to hell...

God saved me... literally.


I was born because my parents' second chid died after 3 days due to a congenital heart defect. Theey wanted two kds.

So by your logic, god killed him so I could be born two years later.

How gracious.

/stop ascribing life to invisible sky wizards and maybe your brain won't hurt
 
2012-11-28 04:38:31 PM

themanuf:

I am racking my brain trying to figure out what is worse than "we wanted to abort you but were too ashamed."


I was a broken rubber. But though I was their first pregnancy they'd been married for seven years already and they did always intend to have a kid eventually. See, they both had problems and needed My Son The Doctor (or something) to show the world they really were smart capable adult people. So my dad went to night school and got a better job with that "I'm a real man now!" smile on his face, and my mother never complained to anybody outside the immediate family that being pregnant was harder than she'd thought because that would ruin her public image as a perky little woman. And their first child turned out to be a masculine child! What successes they were! They were so proud of themselves (until I started turning into a person in my own right anyway). The rubber broke as a sign from God that they were truly special!1!

I was a Truly Wanted child. See how wonderfully I turned out. Who wants to trade?
 
2012-11-28 04:38:31 PM

Gabrielmot: lousyskater: themanuf: lousyskater: Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.

I could one up this easily, but I'd rather not start a pissing contest over who had the worst parents.

Shame. I am racking my brain trying to figure out what is worse than "we wanted to abort you but were too ashamed."

I'll just say this: There were random heroin needles lying around in the apartment in plain sight with an 8 year old me and a 4 year old brother living in said apartment. As far as I'm gonna go.

This one is going to sound hard to believe, but the friend I mentioned earlier had a pretty horrible story as well. Because they were so poor, he had to wash dishes for extra money at the strip club his mother worked at while she was on stage stripping in plain sight of him (same mom who cut him with the broken ashtray). If you didn't guess, she was constantly on drugs as well (still is today).

What really gets me is that despite what she did to him, he's forgiven her and still keeps in contact with her despite the fact it's pretty much a relationship where he takes care of her and keeps her from heading further downhill.

-He's an atheist by the way. One of the few times I totally get the whole atheism thing. I wouldn't have been strong enough to go through what he went through, but every day he still manages to be nice to people who don't deserve it and work hard for a company that treats him like crap. -He's a pretty amazing individual, I only wish I could be as good a Christian as he seems to be despite him being an atheist. -Truly someone to look up to.

Like I said in another thread, some people are who they are because of their parents, some in spite of their parents.


I'm in a similar situation at the moment. I'm still in quite regular contact with both parents now, and I managed to get them all cleaned up(although it took my mom going to jail 3 times and dad almost dying from an aneurysm...). My mom is actually capable of holding a job now, first time in her 50 years. I'll say my nerd tendencies are probably the reason I came out of my childhood in one piece.

/also an atheist, but don't see why it matters in this situation.
 
2012-11-28 04:39:24 PM

ChipNASA: "Mommy doesn't love me any more, that's why I love you more".....

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 237x320]

/few bites.


assets0.ordienetworks.com

/haven't seen that show up in a while.
 
2012-11-28 04:41:19 PM

Litig8r: Garbage. All children, at some point, hate their parents. It might be for a moment, or weeks, or even years. You can't grow up if you don't break away and learn to make your own call on how you would have done things within the context of how you do them now. But unless the parents were truly abusive, their children will always love them. The "horrible" truths they're talking about are a fantasy applicable in truth to only a small fraction of cases.

I'm sure my kids will come to me at some point and tell me why they thought I was a shiatty parent, or why they disagreed with the decisions I made and took, or why they hate me. And the best I'm going to be able to do is to tell them the reasons why I did what I did, admit that I make mistakes all the time, and hope that if they can't not judge me for the calls I made, that they can at least forgive me for making them -- because they are my reason for being.


This doesn't sound defensive at all. Not one bit.
 
2012-11-28 04:41:38 PM

Grapple: cgraves67: My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.

Actually, my wife could say this one. And it's killing me. She leaves the house for 6 hours for a ride on her motorcycle BOYFRIEND say, twice a week.., I stay home with my son. Suddenly, I'm not paying enough attention to her and we should consider ourselves "separated". Really?


FTFY
 
2012-11-28 04:43:27 PM

Litig8r: The One True TheDavid:

What's the difference between loving your parents and Stockholm Syndrome? (No, that's not a rhetorical question.)

One is a form of trauma bonding involving dominant and submissive parties through which the submissive party identifies with the dominant party as a survival and dissonance minimizing mechanism to resolve a negative and inescapable situation.

The other involves a Swedish bank robbery.


Thank you. That made my day. Maybe I'll be nicer to you in the future. If I remember: sometimes I need the ex to come over and help find my keys so I can go shopping.
 
2012-11-28 04:45:03 PM

foxyshadis: kindms:
Rosanne is the only TV show when I grew up that even hints at the honest side of love. I didn't understand it then, now I can watch it and recognize my dad's side of the family.


You know, I'm the same way. I watched that show when I was growing up and it was just another sitcom. We recently watched it again on Netflix and there are some episodes that literally made me cry, or were so uncomfortably close to home it hurt.

And it's my dad's side of the family too. The difference is that my old man is an awesome guy who tells me he loves me, gave me hugs growing up and spent time with me teaching things. He's great. Grandma is still a biatch. I'm over 30 now and I'm glad Pop didn't let his parents drag him down. I've got two aunts and two other uncles who weren't so lucky. Their lives are a farked up mess and their kids are just as screwed up.
 
2012-11-28 04:45:18 PM
I tried to reconcile with my mother a few years after I had moved out. She could no longer physically or mentally abuse me as an adult. I drew reasonable boundaries, and warned her. She stepped over them, and I went on to have a pretty great life without her. She died about five years ago. I didn't go to the funeral.

/I may not have had an example of proper mothering, but I sure as hell had lessons on *bad* parenting. From there ya kinda fill in the blanks.
/love you guys more than life itself, Sporkette #1 and Sporkette #2!!
 
2012-11-28 04:45:40 PM
I had some snark, but this thread sucked it all out. Hell, think about it, you all are on Fark now, the Miller High Life of the internet!
 
2012-11-28 04:46:57 PM
Ok one of my favorite bad parent stories is when my dad forced me to take ballet classes as a kid because he knew the other kids would tease me and beat me up when they found out...which they did. All because he thought I was too soft.

Another is when instead of mailing my college applications like he said he would do (he said he wanted to do something nice for me). He threw them away so I wouldn't be accepted to any colleges and would have to stay at home.

\wasn't that bad though
\\somebody always has it worse than you
 
2012-11-28 04:48:43 PM

cryinoutloud: Smelly Pirate Hooker: cryinoutloud: Bad parents don't know care that they're bad parents. That's why they don't do it better.
Fixed that for you. They know. They just don't care.

no, a lot of them really don't know. They think they're fine parents. But their parents were shiatty parents, and their parents before them, and well, how is anyone supposed to learn how to be a good parent if they aren't that smart and never had a good role model?

This isn't rocket science. Except on Fark, apparently, where everyone is supposed to have bootstraps that not only bail them out of poverty, but teach them every single social skill in the world.


I guess it depends on your definition of the word "bad." To me, "bad" = abusive or neglectful, not "lacking in social skills." Most people are lacking in social skills.

Most abusive or neglectful parents know what they're doing. They may not be willing or able to be better, but they do know. They're not so stupid they don't know what they're doing. They just say they don't know any better for the same reason people don't want to admit to any other repellent behavior. Because being stupid is always an acceptable excuse for doing almost anything. Or they blame it on booze or drugs. I realize many abusive parents were themselves abused as children, but not all abused children grow up to be abusive parents. So why give the ones who do a pass? You have my sympathy for growing up in an abusive home until you vent your frustrations on a helpless child.
 
2MS [TotalFark]
2012-11-28 04:49:02 PM
I busted my Mom's boyfriend sneekeing over one day when I was 6 (Didn't know it at the time). That wasn't the strange part though. She had him over and introduced him to my Dad (as a "friend"). Next thing we know, they built on another room, and he moved in with my Mom and Dad and my sister and me. From there on it gets really strange.
But my neighbor that had alcoholic parents that fought constantly thought I was the lucky one because I had 2 Dads.
 
2012-11-28 04:51:30 PM
My dad remarried and had two kids. His second wife was.. less than maternal. Lately, she's on the fast track to debilitating depression and her youngest son is dong his damnedest to get out from under her crazy. So I was spending some time with the kid (he's 17 now) and I mentioned how ironic it was that our dad left my mom because *she* was crazy (certifiably, bipolar and ADD). He said, "didn't your mom kick him out of the house" and i told him maybe, but it was because he was cheating on her with his mom. Blew my baby brothers mind, that did.

Anyway, a few of those reminded me of her (his mom). I think he'll still turn out ok.
 
2012-11-28 04:51:46 PM

Tellingthem: Ok one of my favorite bad parent stories is when my dad forced me to take ballet classes as a kid because he knew the other kids would tease me and beat me up when they found out...which they did. All because he thought I was too soft.


Damn. I just got lots of gay panic. (I used to be a geek - keep it under your hat).

A few years ago, not having talked to my dad for 15-odd years, I picked up a phone call from him at my grandma's house. Gave him the quick update, told him I'd married [Mrs. Anomaly] (my HS girlfriend, he knew who she was), and had 2 kids. His response was, I kid you not, "Oh thank God".
 
2012-11-28 04:51:58 PM
I thought it went:

"No, it's not meth, it's coke, so leave it the fark alone, and pull the farkin curtain closed, I've got COMPANY! You can just hold it until we're done."
 
2012-11-28 04:52:31 PM

Highroller48: Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.

I made my 7-year-old daughter eat broccoli AND cauliflower in the same day.


YOU MONSTER1!
 
2012-11-28 04:52:57 PM
Wow, that sounds like a list of things that my boss would say to me too.

///FML
 
2012-11-28 04:56:41 PM

themanuf: lousyskater: Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.

I could one up this easily, but I'd rather not start a pissing contest over who had the worst parents.

Shame. I am racking my brain trying to figure out what is worse than "we wanted to abort you but were too ashamed."


How about this one: "We were going to abort you but when we got to the clinic we were $10 short."

-Not mine, my best friend of 25 years. He just told me this last month. I knew his parents were farked up, but jeez.
 
2012-11-28 04:56:46 PM
maybe

i48.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-28 04:56:56 PM

Grapple: cgraves67: My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.

Actually, my wife could say this one. And it's killing me. She leaves the house for 6 hours for a ride on her motorcycle say, twice a week.., I stay home with my son. Suddenly, I'm not paying enough attention to her and we should consider ourselves "separated". Really?


Your wife is riding something, but it's not a motorcycle.
 
2012-11-28 04:57:04 PM

Poo_Fight: "Men are pigs." I guess that makes women pigfarkers?




+1, good sir. I'm stealing that.
 
2012-11-28 05:00:00 PM
To his clubfooted child said Lord Stipple,
As he poured his post-prandial tipple,
"Your mother's behaviour
Gave pain to Our Saviour,
And that's why He made you a cripple."

I love Edward Gorey.
 
2012-11-28 05:01:14 PM

No Such Agency: Grapple:
She leaves the house for 6 hours for a ride on her motorcycle say, twice a week.., I stay home with my son. Suddenly, I'm not paying enough attention to her and we should consider ourselves "separated". Really?

Hide a GPS on the bike, then take the fact that it's parked in the lot at the motel for 10 hours a week straight to court. Lawyer up, delete Facebook and hit the gym.



What he said^^^


My friend just went through something similar. All you can do is accept she's a vile biatch, DO NOT FOCUS on retribution or her future downfall (all that does is make you preoccupied with the past, rather than focussing on your and your kids' futures), and find new happiness.

Letting go is more liberating than you may currently think. Just help the kids as much as you can & let the chips fall where they may.
 
2012-11-28 05:08:45 PM

Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.


They let you live.
 
2012-11-28 05:09:02 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: She didn't move because she didn't want him to know she was woke




She was woke?

--syntax error---
 
2012-11-28 05:09:31 PM

cryinoutloud: The One True TheDavid: cryinoutloud:

Bad parents don't know they're bad parents. That's why they don't do it better.

Don't you think they can compare themselves and their kids to other families? I know I'll never write as well as Henry James. Or are they like my parents? My dad did the best he could with the little he had...

Some of them can, and they get better, and their kids do better. But some of them are pretty ignorant, and they just figure that anyone who raises their kids differently than they do is stupid--without realizing that they're the party that's stupid.


Well, yeah. But that sounds like a false dichotomy, separating Bad Parents from Stupid Parents when I say the latter are a subset of the former. Or vice-versa: the point is they're not two separate things.

Look how much arguing there is about parenting among people whose kids will probably all turn out OK, regardless of how much people disagree about it.

How is that different from saying "the bar for 'good parenting' is set so low for society's convenience" then? It seems to me that there are too damn few good parents, that most people who have and raise kids wouldn't be allowed to under a professional licensing system, but they gang up together because they think it's their God-given right to have power over a helpless human being and prove they're Real Adults. And that's just the ones who say they want their kids.

Parenting should require training in the vocation and be overseen by professional boards, like with pharmacists and lawyers. And if that means the birthrate drops precipitously that's another good thing.

My parents were better than a few dozen others I've known, which is farking pathetic. Just because you don't break the other arm too or sodomize him with his head in the toilet doesn't mean you deserve to be trusted with a kitten let alone a kid.

And yes, I'm willing to forget my anarchist convictions if the only way to achieve this is to drag in Big Brother. Maybe with a few smaller generations of not-so-crappy parenting hoi poloi will come up with anarchy on their own.

Anyway. The truth is I drink because I like the way it makes me feel: it's pretty much a rational choice. Though the fact that my parents were such losers does explain why I'm such an asshole on Fark so often. (Really! Honest honky!)
 
2012-11-28 05:10:00 PM
"This Be the Verse"

They f*ck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.

But they were f*cked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another's throats.

Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don't have any kids yourself.

- Phillip Larkin
 
2012-11-28 05:10:44 PM

Gabrielmot: lousyskater: themanuf: lousyskater: Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.

I could one up this easily, but I'd rather not start a pissing contest over who had the worst parents.

Shame. I am racking my brain trying to figure out what is worse than "we wanted to abort you but were too ashamed."

I'll just say this: There were random heroin needles lying around in the apartment in plain sight with an 8 year old me and a 4 year old brother living in said apartment. As far as I'm gonna go.

This one is going to sound hard to believe, but the friend I mentioned earlier had a pretty horrible story as well. Because they were so poor, he had to wash dishes for extra money at the strip club his mother worked at while she was on stage stripping in plain sight of him (same mom who cut him with the broken ashtray). If you didn't guess, she was constantly on drugs as well (still is today).

What really gets me is that despite what she did to him, he's forgiven her and still keeps in contact with her despite the fact it's pretty much a relationship where he takes care of her and keeps her from heading further downhill.

-He's an atheist by the way. One of the few times I totally get the whole atheism thing. I wouldn't have been strong enough to go through what he went through, but every day he still manages to be nice to people who don't deserve it and work hard for a company that treats him like crap. -He's a pretty amazing individual, I only wish I could be as good a Christian as he seems to be despite him being an atheist. -Truly someone to look up to.

Like I said in another thread, some people are who they are because of their parents, some in spite of their parents.


I don't think your friend's story is admirable. Continuing to support and care for a woman who refuses to get her life together that's just continuing to be his mother's victim when he can choose otherwise. My therapist told me: "it's not your job to parent your mother." After that my motto concerning my parents is: not my problem. I can't save them from themselves as long as my parents continue to be abusive crazy people all while I'm insisting I'm the mean broken kid their perfect parent selves were cursed with, my options are continue to be their victim to preserve their delusions of a parent-child relationship and give up any hope of having healthy adult relationships with anyone or having a life of my own because neither of my parents can tolerate me having affection for someone else (my parents competitions for my attention as a child were "interesting") or distance myself from the situation.

Since you said you were looking for sharing and validation rather than competition. My two favorites: "if you want to see how well a condom works look in the mirror" and "I won't be satisfied with you until you're perfect and I know you'll never be perfect."
 
2012-11-28 05:12:47 PM

Grapple: cgraves67: My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.

Actually, my wife could say this one. And it's killing me. She leaves the house for 6 hours for a ride on her motorcycle say, twice a week.., I stay home with my son. Suddenly, I'm not paying enough attention to her and we should consider ourselves "separated". Really?


I hate to say this, but I don't think it's a motorcycle she's riding for 6 hours.
 
2012-11-28 05:13:53 PM

lousyskater: Gabrielmot: lousyskater: themanuf: lousyskater: Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.

I could one up this easily, but I'd rather not start a pissing contest over who had the worst parents.

Shame. I am racking my brain trying to figure out what is worse than "we wanted to abort you but were too ashamed."

I'll just say this: There were random heroin needles lying around in the apartment in plain sight with an 8 year old me and a 4 year old brother living in said apartment. As far as I'm gonna go.

This one is going to sound hard to believe, but the friend I mentioned earlier had a pretty horrible story as well. Because they were so poor, he had to wash dishes for extra money at the strip club his mother worked at while she was on stage stripping in plain sight of him (same mom who cut him with the broken ashtray). If you didn't guess, she was constantly on drugs as well (still is today).

What really gets me is that despite what she did to him, he's forgiven her and still keeps in contact with her despite the fact it's pretty much a relationship where he takes care of her and keeps her from heading further downhill.

-He's an atheist by the way. One of the few times I totally get the whole atheism thing. I wouldn't have been strong enough to go through what he went through, but every day he still manages to be nice to people who don't deserve it and work hard for a company that treats him like crap. -He's a pretty amazing individual, I only wish I could be as good a Christian as he seems to be despite him being an atheist. -Truly someone to look up to.

Like I said in another thread, some people are who they are because of their parents, some in spite of their parents.

I'm in a similar situation at the moment. I'm still in qui ...


His being an atheist sort of matters to me. Hearing what he went through, it would be hard for someone who went through what he did to still believe in a God.

Before him, the only atheists I'd met were pretty crappy people who just liked to make fun of the "guy on a stick" or the "sky wizard" that Christians all worshiped. -He's not like that; he respects that others have different beliefs than he does.

Honestly, because of this, it's hard for me to explain to my Christian friends sometimes why I have atheist friends. This guy makes it easy as he's easily a better person than most of us.
 
2012-11-28 05:14:34 PM
My love life was more important than you.

Yup. Wife and I already had this conversation. Our kids will never be more important than us.

And on the "you must act this way as your behavior reflects on me" we'll damn right.
 
2012-11-28 05:14:51 PM
Surprised this isn't here yet:

images9.fotki.com
 
2012-11-28 05:17:44 PM

The One True TheDavid: "Men are pigs. You were a boy trying to become a man. I tried to turn you into a girl to prevent you from becoming a pig."

How do people become transsexuals, again?


Sleeping with demons, don't you know anything?
 
2012-11-28 05:18:07 PM

Lollipop165: Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.

Mom: "I have no idea what you are talking about, I was never an alcoholic."

This was after I confronted her not long ago about hitting me when I was 12 or so after she found the book "When Mommy Drinks" (hidden underneath my mattress) that the guidance counselor gave me to help cope being left alone with her. There's a lot more issues than that, but I guess it gives you an idea. I felt very abandoned by everyone.

It's gotten better though as I've gotten older. I have a better understanding that she's just human. I just have to keep reminding myself that her depression isn't her fault. I do love her. When she wasn't drunk she was a good mom. She just has issues. A lot of them.

/My mom is still trying to keep that "perfect upper middle class white picket fence family" thing up

cookiefleck: "You had BETTER be the MOST PERFECT well behaved, charming child to showcase to all my friends at their endless cocktail parties!"

*swigs gin martini*

...I, I'm sorry where was i?

Omg, story of my life :-)


My mom kinda had the same thing going... She was a teacher, and a rather lousy one at that, but when her class wasn't meeting standards, she could always point to her son with a 4.0 who had never gotten below a 97 on anything in his life (she had nothing to do with that).
 
2012-11-28 05:18:29 PM
Beaver Knievel:

Missing from the list: "Listen son, your mom and I are getting divorced because apparently women go batshiat insane after 30.

Actually I think most women are batshiat insane before they're 30, if they're halfway good-looking at least. When it dawns on them they might not always be able to slide by on their pretty eyes or their cup size they might respond by acting like real people for a change and developing talents using things besides reflexes they were born with.

Or they might go even crazier because their looks and BJ skills really are all they've got. "Many are called, few are chosen."
 
2012-11-28 05:20:27 PM

Spade: My love life was more important than you.

Yup. Wife and I already had this conversation. Our kids will never be more important than us.
.


You are going to be a shiatty parent.
 
2012-11-28 05:24:01 PM

5monkeys: Nana's Vibrator: ***snip***

My ex husband cried when he saw that our third child was another girl. Then when the boys came he left. Turns out getting a boy (or boys) didn't make him happy in the way he thought it would. Some people are really farked up. Me? I am happy with all the kids! They are awesome. Couldn't give a shiat what gender they are.


My wife likes to tell the story that when the OB said that we were having a girl, the expression on my face was clearly, "Are you sure?" as if the thought of having a girl had never even occurred to me. It's funny because it's true. I never once considered being unhappy that we were having a girl, I just hadn't thought of the possibility.

However, if the next child (assuming we have another like we want to) is a girl, we are done. I figure that I can hold my own at 3 to 1, but at 4 to 1, not even a basement man cave would save me.

Gabrielmot: lousyskater: themanuf: lousyskater: Gabrielmot: ***snip***

Like I said in another thread, some people are who they are because of their parents, some in spite of their parents.


I knew going in that I am gonna screw up my kid, I just hope to minimize the damage and keep her off the pole.
 
2012-11-28 05:24:36 PM
My mother tells me I'm just like my father (who used to beat and rape her) when I disagree with her. Seems sorta farked up to me
 
2012-11-28 05:25:46 PM

NASAM: themanuf: lousyskater: Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.

I could one up this easily, but I'd rather not start a pissing contest over who had the worst parents.

Shame. I am racking my brain trying to figure out what is worse than "we wanted to abort you but were too ashamed."

How about this one: "We were going to abort you but when we got to the clinic we were $10 short."

-Not mine, my best friend of 25 years. He just told me this last month. I knew his parents were farked up, but jeez.


Now that's a story for the ages.
 
2012-11-28 05:26:00 PM
With my Dad it was Flip a Coin

Today it heads - Daddy comes home from work and he will be pissed beyond belief and every other word is a swear word. Everything you say or do is WRONG!

Tomorrow its tails - Daddy comes home in a great mood and is happy and charming and wondering why you shy away from him.

The next day, Daddy comes home in a great mood, but when he goes to pry the jar lid off and some of the applesauce spills, all hell breaks loose and it turns out to be a "heads" day instead of the "tails" day you were hoping for.

(Not an alcoholic for those of you who are wondering)
 
2012-11-28 05:26:12 PM

cgraves67: They forgot:
I hate that you are not Me v2.0. Why can't you be more like me.


Actually bad parents want Me v2.0 to be less like me and more like what I wanted to be.

/not my parents.
//seen it way too much.
 
2012-11-28 05:31:49 PM

NASAM: Spade: My love life was more important than you.

Yup. Wife and I already had this conversation. Our kids will never be more important than us.
.

You are going to be a shiatty parent.


They're getting shipped off to boarding school as early as possible anyway, so no worries.

Worked for Churchill
 
2012-11-28 05:32:23 PM

roc6783: 5monkeys: Nana's Vibrator: ***snip***

My ex husband cried when he saw that our third child was another girl. Then when the boys came he left. Turns out getting a boy (or boys) didn't make him happy in the way he thought it would. Some people are really farked up. Me? I am happy with all the kids! They are awesome. Couldn't give a shiat what gender they are.

My wife likes to tell the story that when the OB said that we were having a girl, the expression on my face was clearly, "Are you sure?" as if the thought of having a girl had never even occurred to me. It's funny because it's true. I never once considered being unhappy that we were having a girl, I just hadn't thought of the possibility.

However, if the next child (assuming we have another like we want to) is a girl, we are done. I figure that I can hold my own at 3 to 1, but at 4 to 1, not even a basement man cave would save me.

Gabrielmot: lousyskater: themanuf: lousyskater: Gabrielmot: ***snip***

Like I said in another thread, some people are who they are because of their parents, some in spite of their parents.

I knew going in that I am gonna screw up my kid, I just hope to minimize the damage and keep her off the pole.


A noble goal. One I plan on trying to achieve if I ever have a girl.

-Although I have known some pretty awesome girls that were strippers (smart, head on straight, going somewhere in life -one is a doctor last I checked), I really don't want my future daughter to be one of them.
 
2012-11-28 05:32:35 PM

cryinoutloud: Bad parents don't know they're bad parents. That's why they don't do it better.


^^^^^^^^^^^ Bingo. They actually think they've done quite well, and when you bring up any of a thousand for instances they go into auto-denial and change the subject.
 
2012-11-28 05:33:39 PM

Spade: My love life was more important than you.

Yup. Wife and I already had this conversation. Our kids will never be more important than us.

And on the "you must act this way as your behavior reflects on me" we'll damn right.


Why do people like you breed?
 
2012-11-28 05:35:56 PM

NASAM: Spade: My love life was more important than you.

Yup. Wife and I already had this conversation. Our kids will never be more important than us.
.

You are going to be a shiatty parent.



Yep--I'd have to go with future shiatty parent. You don't even understand the original comment was basically aimed at those who tramp around town rather than raise their kids. Having a strong marriage is different.

tblax: My mother tells me I'm just like my father (who used to beat and rape her) when I disagree with her. Seems sorta farked up to me




Just retort with a sarcastic "Yeah, mom. Let's list all the times I beat and raped you. None? Zero? Ok, now that we've established you're partially crazy, go sell it somewhere else."
 
2012-11-28 05:36:35 PM
Fark always keeps things in perspective. I had a comparatively awesome childhood, despite fighting a bit with my mom during the 12-14 years.
 
2012-11-28 05:36:40 PM
No Such Agency: Grapple:
She leaves the house for 6 hours for a ride on her motorcycle say, twice a week.., I stay home with my son. Suddenly, I'm not paying enough attention to her and we should consider ourselves "separated". Really?

Hide a GPS on the bike, then take the fact that it's parked in the lot at the motel for 10 hours a week straight to court. Lawyer up, delete Facebook and hit the gym.


This.
 
2012-11-28 05:37:10 PM

ChipNASA: "Mommy doesn't love me any more, that's why I love you more".....

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 237x320]

/few bites.


img.myconfinedspace.com
 
2012-11-28 05:37:32 PM
Moving to Tennessee from the Chicago area back in 86 was a terrible shock to me. To go from a clean suburb to the Bible Belt where I was a friendless, Godless dork and got bullied every day up until high school. As a result, I didn't do too well in school.

I brought home my first report card (which had some F's on it), and my dad called me an asshole and a worthless piece of shiat. I was eleven at the time.

That was kind of the norm, though. He didn't get physical very often, but he was a weapons-grade dick most of the time and I still have issues with men in authority positions.

Not as bad as the abortion thing, but I think most of us have scars (emotional and physical) that our parents gave us. The best we can do is learn from it and try to be better parents then they were.
 
2012-11-28 05:39:11 PM
[icantfaptothis.gif]
 
2012-11-28 05:41:42 PM
"Oh shiat! Children are work?!?!?! I thought they would be easy like me!!!"
 
2012-11-28 05:43:15 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Spade: My love life was more important than you.

Yup. Wife and I already had this conversation. Our kids will never be more important than us.

And on the "you must act this way as your behavior reflects on me" we'll damn right.

Why do people like you breed?


Why does anybody?

But Sorry if I don't think children are special little snowflakes that deserve 100% of everything.

Wife's not breast feeding either.
 
2012-11-28 05:45:27 PM

Spade:

Wife's not breast feeding either.


Cause them titties is all yours, amirite!?
 
2012-11-28 05:50:00 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Spade:

Wife's not breast feeding either.

Cause them titties is all yours, amirite!?


She doesn't want to. Feels it takes too much time. She has a career she's worked hard for and doesn't feel the need to bow to any little tyrants.

/second wave baby
 
2012-11-28 05:51:07 PM
Not all the things you learn in boy scouts are about tying knots and camping.

I remember the time I noticed that while I had a bunch of problem scouts, what I really wanted to do was beat up their dads. No idea how they treated their sons (other than causing them to grow up like them), but there was that.

/from before the "are you or have you ever been?" era
//it's the other things that stick with you
///also a great cure for budding libertarians. See above: they aren't growing out of it.
 
2012-11-28 05:52:00 PM
fickenchucker:
tblax: My mother tells me I'm just like my father (who used to beat and rape her) when I disagree with her. Seems sorta farked up to me



Just retort with a sarcastic "Yeah, mom. Let's list all the times I beat and raped you. None? Zero? Ok, now that we've established you're partially crazy, go sell it somewhere else."

She's more than partially crazy, the last time she made that comparison it was in an argument that started over how I parked my car on the street front of her house..
 
2012-11-28 05:55:08 PM
I was jealous of you. When you were born, your mother father paid more attention to you than to me, so I started to see you as competition.


/Modern day reality
//Single Father
 
2012-11-28 05:55:29 PM

tblax


fickenchucker:
tblax: My mother tells me I'm just like my father (who used to beat and rape her) when I disagree with her. Seems sorta farked up to me

Just retort with a sarcastic "Yeah, mom. Let's list all the times I beat and raped you. None? Zero? Ok, now that we've established you're partially crazy, go sell it somewhere else."

She's more than partially crazy, the last time she made that comparison it was in an argument that started over how I parked my car on the street front of her house..


What did you do, dent the fender and jam it in somewhere you weren't allowed?
 
2012-11-28 05:57:25 PM

flyinglizard: Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.

They let you live.


Please tell me YOU are not a parent and/or never plan to have children.
 
2012-11-28 06:01:26 PM
Two most often phrases repeated by my step mother (just because birth parents aren't the only bad parents)..

"i never wanted kids, that's why i had my tubes tied before i met your father."
and
"i should never have married a man with children, but now we just have to make the best of it"

wasn't fun.


haven't spoken to my parents in 3 years. they repeatedly treated MY two step children like they didn't exist, and treated my daughter like she was the second coming of christ. i repeatedly told them to knock it off. they didn't. sooo... i told them they didn't need to be a part of any of our lives.

What pisses me off the most is that it still bothers me...
 
2012-11-28 06:04:35 PM
Visited my cousin and her three kids over Thanksgiving.

I have to wonder what the taboo against free range kids causes this. They are great people, but wildness and competitiveness make you wonder where they are going. I can't imagine being a good parent all the time (i.e. being a good parent) in a three ring circus like that. Ship them outside and stay sane.
 
2012-11-28 06:05:51 PM
20 years from now, Fark 12.0, similar thread....

"I've got you all beat! Look what I found when I was looking through my dad's old Fark posts...

Spade: My love life was more important than you.

Yup. Wife and I already had this conversation. Our kids will never be more important than us.

And on the "you must act this way as your behavior reflects on me" we'll damn right.

"
 
2012-11-28 06:06:52 PM

kindms: There is some truth to this blog.

I know that I resented that my dad divorced my mom. Even though he was actively involved etc etc there was just something that always bothered me as a younger person. As I have gotten older and see him more of guy vs. my dad it is much easier to understand the decisions he made etc. I might not like some of those decisions but as man to man it is much more understandable and I can relate to it much more easily than I could at 15 or so.

I think a lot of it comes from experience with love. Love isn't always great or easy. I don't think you really learn that until you get older.




Not just love, experience with everything in life. Looking back I realized that my father struggled with a lot of shiat that nobody else recognized. I think I will be kind and not mention my mother....but my dad was the father of the 20th century.....and the entire world did nothing but shiat on him.
 
2012-11-28 06:09:27 PM

AJisaff: i repeatedly told them to knock it off. they didn't. sooo... i told them they didn't need to be a part of any of our lives.

What pisses me off the most is that it still bothers me...


It'll pass, but it does take a long time. You're doing the right thing by your kids, and from the sound of it, for yourself, too. Go, you!

My kids never knew my mother. They asked and when they were old enough to handle it, I told them why. They understood.
 
2012-11-28 06:15:11 PM

Spade: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Spade: My love life was more important than you.

Yup. Wife and I already had this conversation. Our kids will never be more important than us.

And on the "you must act this way as your behavior reflects on me" we'll damn right.

Why do people like you breed?

Why does anybody?

But Sorry if I don't think children are special little snowflakes that deserve 100% of everything.

Wife's not breast feeding either.


You are a selfish douche. Why in the world would you want to have kids that are going to cut into your "me time".

Seriously, do us ALL a favor and sterilize yourself.
 
2012-11-28 06:17:35 PM
If you can't be a good example for your kids, at least try to be a horrible warning.
 
2012-11-28 06:28:09 PM
Natural News is InfoWars for hippies.
 
2012-11-28 06:28:49 PM
GORDON:

Here's one most Farkers never got: You aren't as smart as you think you are, and you are not important at all, in the grand scheme of things.

Accept that and become happier.


Well yeah. So why are you here giving us dimwits such obvious advice? Don't you have a wonderful life to live somewhere else?
 
2012-11-28 06:32:58 PM
See this son?

This is daddy's basement
Do not go down to daddy's basement
Because if you go
... You might never return.

*opens door*

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-28 06:33:53 PM

The One True TheDavid: GORDON:

Here's one most Farkers never got: You aren't as smart as you think you are, and you are not important at all, in the grand scheme of things.

Accept that and become happier.

Well yeah. So why are you here giving us dimwits such obvious advice? Don't you have a wonderful life to live somewhere else?


In less than 28 minutes, later than 25.
 
2012-11-28 06:36:03 PM
There is some very harsh shiat in there and the truth often hurts.
 
2012-11-28 06:39:06 PM

KarmaSpork: AJisaff: i repeatedly told them to knock it off. they didn't. sooo... i told them they didn't need to be a part of any of our lives.

What pisses me off the most is that it still bothers me...

It'll pass, but it does take a long time. You're doing the right thing by your kids, and from the sound of it, for yourself, too. Go, you!

My kids never knew my mother. They asked and when they were old enough to handle it, I told them why. They understood.


Thanks!

Parenting is freaking hard... no matter what you grew up with.
 
2012-11-28 06:39:25 PM

Spade: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Spade: My love life was more important than you.

Yup. Wife and I already had this conversation. Our kids will never be more important than us.

And on the "you must act this way as your behavior reflects on me" we'll damn right.

Why do people like you breed?

Why does anybody?

But Sorry if I don't think children are special little snowflakes that deserve 100% of everything.

Wife's not breast feeding either.


What you think you're going to make: a strong, independent child who respects boundaries

What you're actually going to make: a sociopath.

Seriously, do everyone a favor, and save whatever it is you don't want to lose. Give the kid to someone that actually wants to have one.
 
2012-11-28 06:39:43 PM
While somewhat OT.

I am going to take my little girls out to look at Christmas lights while blasting their favorite(and farking horrible) music. Yeah....I can sing "Call Me Maybe" by CRJ....if the radio is loud enough.

Have a good night farkers
 
2012-11-28 06:39:58 PM

Gabrielmot: Before him, the only atheists I'd met were pretty crappy people who just liked to make fun of the "guy on a stick" or the "sky wizard" that Christians all worshiped. -He's not like that; he respects that others have different beliefs than he does.


i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-28 06:42:49 PM
Gabrielmot:

Like I said in another thread, some people are who they are because of their parents, some in spite of their parents.

And some are who they are Just Because. like me, for example. It's a dirty job but somebody's gotta do it.
 
2012-11-28 06:42:56 PM
I was nearly in tears today b/c the awesome parents day out at the non-wacky Episcopalian church is closing due to lack of interest. I was sad b/c it was a safe place to stow my kid and he loved it. Also goddamn, do you know any 18 months olds? They can be relentlessly annoying. I felt like a bad parent but then I read this article.

/Thanks this article.
 
2012-11-28 06:45:08 PM

NASAM: Spade: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Spade: My love life was more important than you.

Yup. Wife and I already had this conversation. Our kids will never be more important than us.

And on the "you must act this way as your behavior reflects on me" we'll damn right.

Why do people like you breed?

Why does anybody?

But Sorry if I don't think children are special little snowflakes that deserve 100% of everything.

Wife's not breast feeding either.

You are a selfish douche. Why in the world would you want to have kids that are going to cut into your "me time".

Seriously, do us ALL a favor and sterilize yourself.


Why do you hate second wave feminists?

Probably either a woman hater or one of those pussy third wavers.
 
2012-11-28 06:45:12 PM

Spade: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Spade:

Wife's not breast feeding either.

Cause them titties is all yours, amirite!?

She doesn't want to. Feels it takes too much time. She has a career she's worked hard for and doesn't feel the need to bow to any little tyrants.

/second wave baby



Seriously, dude. If you're serious about what you have been typing, you are going to be some of the worst parents in history. Kids are not fashion accessories or something you have just because it's what adults do.

The distancing from the kids you have already shown will only result in you being either too demanding for them to be perfect and self-sufficient by the time they're 3, or being completely distant.

For the sake of the kids please never impregnate your selfish wife with your immature boy-goo. The world will be better off.
 
2012-11-28 06:50:31 PM

lousyskater: Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.

I could one up this easily, but I'd rather not start a pissing contest over who had the worst parents.


Yeah, was going to mention the same thing.

But honestly... If that's the worst thing your folks pulled on you, you got off easy.
 
2012-11-28 06:56:00 PM

Gabrielmot: His being an atheist sort of matters to me. Hearing what he went through, it would be hard for someone who went through what he did to still believe in a God.


Right... it takes a strong man not to take a hint.
 
2012-11-28 06:57:18 PM
You all do realize that this "article" is actually an ad, right?
 
2012-11-28 07:00:33 PM

schubie: I was nearly in tears today b/c the awesome parents day out at the non-wacky Episcopalian church is closing due to lack of interest. I was sad b/c it was a safe place to stow my kid and he loved it. Also goddamn, do you know any 18 months olds? They can be relentlessly annoying. I felt like a bad parent but then I read this article.

/Thanks this article.


Yeah father of a 21 month old here.. I understand, but can be partially avoided. My daughter was actually quite nice to be around until she started going to pre-school. She has learned some very bad manners from those other kids.

On another note, more on topic, I know a woman whose childhood story would make most people go DAAAAAAAAAAAAAmn. Her mom was a teacher, and a drug addict, as she slid into uselessness she couldn't afford the drugs, so she pimped out her daughter to pedophiles to make money. When her daughter was a preschooler. Then when her daughter was in her teens, she had to take care of her drug addled mother.. man the stories she will tell sometimes. the whole mom sewing her parts back together after she was raped by the man her mom was selling her to.. by her mom, because can't get medical treatment for that.
 
2012-11-28 07:15:38 PM

Spade: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Spade:

Wife's not breast feeding either.

Cause them titties is all yours, amirite!?

She doesn't want to. Feels it takes too much time. She has a career she's worked hard for and doesn't feel the need to bow to any little tyrants.

/second wave baby


Ha! Of course. Sterilizing bottles and feeders and making the formula and heating it up and dumping all the stuff in the dishwasher after is *so* much faster than letting the little barracuda latch on to a breast and have at it. Or maybe you assume feminists consider all babies to be parasites that should feed themselves from birth?
 
2012-11-28 07:23:34 PM

Lollipop165: The One True TheDavid:

How many mothers will come out and say "I want my son to be a Mama's Boy!"?)

Did you have a father around?


Yes. And she made sure he had a nervous breakdown, lost his shiat especially loudly and dramatically once and got arrested and committed, then was on probation for a couple or three years after he got out. Of course he also had to be on a very high dose of Thorazine. Ages 6 1/2 to 9.

Pro-tip: no matter what "the little woman" says or does for however long, don't lose your temper, slap her a couple times and leave her to run screaming from the house on a summer Sunday afternoon when everybody's out & about on the block. Especially not if you already have a documented history of "mental problems." Do not get angry, throw shiat around and hit her when she jumps in your face hollering instead of going out the back door like a sensible person. Do not hit her or she'll own your ass for the next 5 years (unless you really are an asshole, in which case she'll be too afraid to bother you). Never harm a hair on her head. (Especially not if you're a good hearted wacko who actually loves his kids.)

Instead stall out in a bad intersection and get her T-boned instead. Then if she lives through it you can be "Such a devoted husband standing by his wife after that terrible accident!"

Conversely, if you already have mental problems and life bugs you enough to start with you should realize that it's better to sit home alone sipping bourbon and watching porn than let your second wife be yet another frustrated little woman who doesn't know how to make a living on her own but wants to stop living under her parents' roof and be boss of her own household. Even if she does have pretty eyes and "winning ways." And if you can't resist that, at least never ever make her pregnant so you're free to leave at any time without major repercussions and crushing lifelong guilt. (These have been my strategies, and they've always worked quite well.)

They got married in 1956. And the Republicans want to return our society to those halcyon days when women had no real option but to leech off her father, hook a husband, or be some kind of "servant" or "hussy." This is why I say women's lib, birth control, sex education, abortion, Plan B, and last but not least society being cool with women earning their own living in "non-domestic" occupations are wonderful things for men. Unless you're both equal partners there's gonna be a whipper and a whippee, and unless you're the kind of asshole who feels no compunctions about hitting women you stand a very good chance of getting the wrong end of the deal. The traditional women's strategy involves getting her way subtly, being sly and devious, studying what makes you tick and how to push your buttons while you think "women are simple creatures, all pink & ribbons." Then before you know it all your base are belong to her. Who do you think really ruled the Cleaver family?

We men would be better off with even more strong women who can stand on their own and don't need a man for anything. It's much safer for us that way.
 
2012-11-28 07:37:26 PM

Farkborn: schubie: I was nearly in tears today b/c the awesome parents day out at the non-wacky Episcopalian church is closing due to lack of interest. I was sad b/c it was a safe place to stow my kid and he loved it. Also goddamn, do you know any 18 months olds? They can be relentlessly annoying. I felt like a bad parent but then I read this article.

/Thanks this article.

Yeah father of a 21 month old here.. I understand, but can be partially avoided. My daughter was actually quite nice to be around until she started going to pre-school. She has learned some very bad manners from those other kids.

On another note, more on topic, I know a woman whose childhood story would make most people go DAAAAAAAAAAAAAmn. Her mom was a teacher, and a drug addict, as she slid into uselessness she couldn't afford the drugs, so she pimped out her daughter to pedophiles to make money. When her daughter was a preschooler. Then when her daughter was in her teens, she had to take care of her drug addled mother.. man the stories she will tell sometimes. the whole mom sewing her parts back together after she was raped by the man her mom was selling her to.. by her mom, because can't get medical treatment for that.


I Funny'd your post because I don't want to live in a world where that can be true. Poe's Law being what it is, I hope that's the darkest joke I ever hear.
 
2012-11-28 07:44:58 PM
There are a lot of farked up people in this thread.
 
2012-11-28 07:46:06 PM
FTFA: I knew what was best for you, so you didn't need to contribute any ideas.

I didn't need to tell you what the rules of the house were. There was only one rule: Don't piss me off!


What's wrong with these?
 
2012-11-28 07:52:39 PM

schubie: I was nearly in tears today b/c the awesome parents day out at the non-wacky Episcopalian church is closing due to lack of interest. I was sad b/c it was a safe place to stow my kid and he loved it. Also goddamn, do you know any 18 months olds? They can be relentlessly annoying. I felt like a bad parent but then I read this article.

/Thanks this article.


I have an 18 month old.

All I have to say:
Good luck. Godspeed.
 
2012-11-28 07:57:09 PM

Gaseous Anomaly: Damn. I just got lots of gay panic.


So did I. I was conceived to carry on the Family Name and my Father's Blessing. I had an older sister, and I spent a lot of time playing barbies with her because I enjoyed playing with her and we incorporated He-Man, My Little Pony, G.I. Joe, and any other dolls we had laying about. Any time my dad came downstairs, my sister and I tended to be playing and for some reason he'd jump our bones about leaving a mess. I didn't learn until later, but dad was constantly telling my mom not to let me play with dolls because he thought it was turning me gay.

/Never considered it abuse
//Was too naive to notice at the time
 
2012-11-28 07:59:31 PM

blatz514: I didn't need to tell you what the rules of the house were. There was only one rule: Don't piss me off!

Dad?

/fine, I'll get ya another beer


That was the one that made me lol at its truthiness. That's absolutely me.

/single father
//precious snowflake (really)
///respect my authoritah!
 
2012-11-28 08:13:37 PM

Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.


We HAD an abortion, but didn't realize there was another one up there.
 
2012-11-28 08:17:49 PM
My mom used to make whole wheat pancakes with wheat germ and sunflower seeds. It was awful.
 
2012-11-28 08:20:10 PM
TFA: I'm right. You're wrong. As long as we understand that, we can have a relationship.

These people grow up to become "managers" at work.
 
2012-11-28 08:21:08 PM
Ah, where did they meet my mom?

Here's the deal: I need to appear a certain way, socially. So, I forced you to act how I needed you to act and do what I needed you to do. You were a reflection of me and I wasn't about to let you ruin my reputation!
 
2012-11-28 08:26:44 PM
When you get older you'll see some videos mommy made.
 
2012-11-28 08:32:20 PM

martid4: When you get older you'll see some videos mommy made.


Starring daddy and guest appearances by uncle John and cousin Sandy.
 
2012-11-28 08:36:40 PM
Holy Jesus you guys are messed up. I used to think I had problems cause my dad was an alcoholic. He did stop drinking when I was pretty young though. Still, my parents fought all the time and I always had to wait around at Al-Anon meetings or the marriage counselor. My dad is still super moody and a bit of an asshole but they are good parents. I mean way better than yours...
 
2012-11-28 08:40:27 PM
1, 2, 5, 8, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, aaaand 19. Out of 19. Nope, don't speak with them any longer.
 
2012-11-28 08:44:03 PM
Play power rangers with your kids.
Be a kid again.

Don't set a bad example.
If you want your kid in scouts, become a scoutmaster.

Praise them for achievement.
Never condemn them to a learning moment.

Don't make your daughter pose for cars on CL.
Don't let them see you fight.

Don't let them see you fark, either.

Remind them that the world is full of bad people but remind them they are loved.

Make them eat their veggies.

Build better people.

Take them to Disney parks.

Don't end up like these two pieces of shiat.
 
2012-11-28 08:47:50 PM
Most of you seem pretty weak. Not just physically weak, but mentally weak. Quit living in the past and blubbering about your parents. Buck up and be a man (or, since this is Fark, a MtW freak.)
 
Esn
2012-11-28 08:57:14 PM

Balchinian: You all do realize that this "article" is actually an ad, right?


So? Almost ALL journalism is an ad for something or other, you should be especially suspicious when it's not obvious what it is advertising. These guys are upfront about what the ad is for, so it's okay in my book. There can be truths in something even if it was published to advertise.
 
2012-11-28 08:58:52 PM

DesktopHippie: Spade: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Spade:

Wife's not breast feeding either.

Cause them titties is all yours, amirite!?

She doesn't want to. Feels it takes too much time. She has a career she's worked hard for and doesn't feel the need to bow to any little tyrants.

/second wave baby

Ha! Of course. Sterilizing bottles and feeders and making the formula and heating it up and dumping all the stuff in the dishwasher after is *so* much faster than letting the little barracuda latch on to a breast and have at it. Or maybe you assume feminists consider all babies to be parasites that should feed themselves from birth?


I'm confused about the same thing. I think all women who can breast feed are lucky (because some people are legitimately unable to) to be able to not to mention the money they could save, the health benefits, etc. I mean, unless you aren't going to feed your baby at all you are going to have to stop what you're doing and feed them.

And also, ok you're dedicated to your job but she DOES get paid time off.

Also, somebody at my work wants to schedule a c-section so the baby will be 'born' (extracted) on the dad's birthday (three weeks early). Seriously, wtf people? People have c-sections because of EMERGENCIES- they are MORE DANGEROUS than natural child birth.
 
2012-11-28 08:59:57 PM

vudukungfu: Play power rangers with your kids.
Be a kid again...


Exactly. Be a parent, not a friend. BUT let your kids be kids, with all the joy, dirt and boo-boos they need.

Try and remember what it felt like to dive in a pile of leaves, build a fort out of pillows and blankets, jump off the diving board or hit your first home run. Remember facing down the 'no thank you' helping of broccoli? Camping under the stars? Going sledding? If you give your kids anything, give them things like that.

I think if we could, most of us would want that magic back in the world. We parents are lucky, we get to see it again through the eyes of our kids.
 
2012-11-28 09:01:37 PM

Grapple: thebleedingthumb: you are awfully nonchalant about this whole situation!!!!

I'm still wondering if I should care to be honest. I was told via email that I was apparently separated from my wife. I realize it's the 21st century, but you really could only tell me this over email? While I was in an all-day meeting? and then transfer all your angst over to me as "it's your call how we handle it from here". Maybe I'm just better off without someone so ... erratic in my life.


I understand. I went through a shocked kind of relief, followed by anger and obsessive stalking for a week, then I just became completely apathetic. I'm leaving anyway, do your thing with whomever you want, I don't care anymore. It's gone back and forth since then, since I haven't actually found another place yet and there have been both good and bad times.
 
2012-11-28 09:02:34 PM

KarmaSpork:

Exactly. Be a parent, not a friend. BUT let your kids be kids, with all the joy, dirt and boo-boos they need.

Try and remember what it felt like to dive in a pile of leaves, build a fort out of pillows and blankets, jump off the diving board or hit your first home run. Remember facing down the 'no thank you' helping of broccoli? Camping under the stars? Going sledding? If you give your kids anything, give them things like that.

I think if we could, most of us would want that magic back in the world. We parents are lucky, we get to see it again through the eyes of our kids.


*fist bump*
/No kids.
//Mentor to many.
 
2012-11-28 09:07:06 PM

arthur_toafk: Farkborn:

On another note, more on topic, I know a woman whose childhood story would make most people go DAAAAAAAAAAAAAmn. Her mom was a teacher, and a drug addict, as she slid into uselessness she couldn't afford the drugs, so she pimped out her daughter to pedophiles to make money. When her daughter was a preschooler. Then when her daughter was in her teens, she had to take care of her drug addled mother.. man the stories she will tell sometimes. the whole mom sewing her parts back together after she was raped by the man her mom was selling her to.. by her mom, because can't get medical treatment for that.

I Funny'd your post because I don't want to live in a world where that can be true. Poe's Law being what it is, I hope that's the darkest joke I ever hear.



Sadly, no that was not a joke. at age 26 she still didn't like to be touched, by anyone. she is 31 now, and after many years, I think she has gotten a little better. Her mom died a few months back, which strangely affected her more than I thought it would. I thought she would be happy, as much as she hoped it would happen, but nope, when it did, she was still upset with losing her mom, who she hadn't talked to since she was able to get away from her.
 
2012-11-28 09:11:44 PM

KarmaSpork: vudukungfu: Play power rangers with your kids.
Be a kid again...

Exactly. Be a parent, not a friend. BUT let your kids be kids, with all the joy, dirt and boo-boos they need.

Try and remember what it felt like to dive in a pile of leaves, build a fort out of pillows and blankets, jump off the diving board or hit your first home run. Remember facing down the 'no thank you' helping of broccoli? Camping under the stars? Going sledding? If you give your kids anything, give them things like that.

I think if we could, most of us would want that magic back in the world. We parents are lucky, we get to see it again through the eyes of our kids.


*fist bump* I am trying to be a dad like that. I only wish my daughter could grow up in the same area I did, but I will make do with what we have around us to let her find fun. At least I will have an excuse to play with all these cool new toys they have now that I didn't have 40 years ago!
 
2012-11-28 09:15:12 PM
cdn.ebaumsworld.com
 
2012-11-28 09:22:07 PM
Romulus and Remus
 
2012-11-28 09:28:15 PM
Daddy needs a drink to deal with all the beauty, to deal with all the madness, to keep from blowing up.
 
2012-11-28 09:30:04 PM

DesktopHippie: Spade: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Spade:

Wife's not breast feeding either.

Cause them titties is all yours, amirite!?

She doesn't want to. Feels it takes too much time. She has a career she's worked hard for and doesn't feel the need to bow to any little tyrants.

/second wave baby

Ha! Of course. Sterilizing bottles and feeders and making the formula and heating it up and dumping all the stuff in the dishwasher after is *so* much faster than letting the little barracuda latch on to a breast and have at it. Or maybe you assume feminists consider all babies to be parasites that should feed themselves from birth?


Pretty much this, although I think Spade is trolling everyone. No kids of mine own but my sister breastfed kids number one and three. Outside of some early latching problems with the first one, everything went smoothly and it was easy - put baby on breast and feed, when done remove. Her second kid having classic galactosemia, which is one of the very few condition in which breastfeeding is fatal or can cause massive health problems, had to use non-dairy formula. The second kids was a bigger pain in the neck to feed because she had to make her own formula (too risky if the company had a screw up and got dairy in the formula, so she made her own), sterilize the bottle, feed the kid, clean the bottles. Only upside is that she quickly learned which "hippie" and "crunchy" mom friends of her were true friends. So sad that some mothers would rather ostracize a woman who has a child with a legitimate health problem, then admit that there are rare cases when breast is not always best.
 
2012-11-28 09:36:22 PM
I have a hard time taking an article seriously that calls parents wanting behaved children that are well spoken essentially narcistic. It is quite the opposite. The parents who ignore their childs public behavior, or worse give you the it's just kids being kids schpeel, are the ones with neither the skills nor courage to be parents.
 
2012-11-28 09:39:04 PM
"All parents damage their children. It cannot be helped. Youth, like pristine glass, absorbs the prints of its handlers. Some parents smudge, others crack, a few shatter childhoods completely into jagged little pieces, beyond repair"

Mitch Albom "The Five People you Meet in Heaven"
 
2012-11-28 09:39:16 PM
Mom
Here's the deal: I need to appear a certain way, socially. So, I forced you to act how I needed you to act and do what I needed you to do. You were a reflection of me and I wasn't about to let you ruin my reputation!

Dad
I was jealous of you. When you were born, your mother paid more attention to you than to me, so I started to see you as competition.

Mom and Dad
I was abused as a child, so I abused you. I needed to be the one in the position of power, at last. It felt like I was finally getting some justice.

Dad
My career was more important than you.

Mom and Dad
My love life was more important than you.

Mom
I liked your older Sister more than I liked you.

MOM (Heard this every day)
You reminded me too much of your jerk father, so I punished you to get back at him.

Mom (every day)
Men are pigs. You were a boy trying to become a man. I tried to turn you into a girl to prevent you from becoming a pig.

mom and Dad
I knew what was best for you, so you didn't need to contribute any ideas.

Mom and Dad
I didn't need to tell you what the rules of the house were. There was only one rule: Don't piss me off!

Both
You were supposed to know what I wanted you to do without my needing to tell you.

Both
You were supposed to know how to do things without my needing to teach you.

both
If you made mistakes, I withheld my love. My child doesn't make mistakes!

Holy fark BOTH!!!
My ego is so fragile that if you challenge me, you become my enemy.

Both
I'm right. You're wrong. As long as we understand that, we can have a relationship.

All this coming from a family of addict and co-dependents.

How the hell I never did drugs or killed someone if beyond me.

Disowned both of them.
I'm waiting for their death.
 
2012-11-28 09:42:15 PM
Miss Stein:

"This Be the Verse"

They f*ck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do./i>

I was waiting for someone to post that.

Have you ever seen Lexington, KY? It's a truly lovely little burg with many things to recommend it. Me among them, of course.
 
2012-11-28 09:44:53 PM

spidermilk: DesktopHippie: Spade: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Spade:

Wife's not breast feeding either.

Cause them titties is all yours, amirite!?

She doesn't want to. Feels it takes too much time. She has a career she's worked hard for and doesn't feel the need to bow to any little tyrants.

/second wave baby

Ha! Of course. Sterilizing bottles and feeders and making the formula and heating it up and dumping all the stuff in the dishwasher after is *so* much faster than letting the little barracuda latch on to a breast and have at it. Or maybe you assume feminists consider all babies to be parasites that should feed themselves from birth?

I'm confused about the same thing. I think all women who can breast feed are lucky (because some people are legitimately unable to) to be able to not to mention the money they could save, the health benefits, etc. I mean, unless you aren't going to feed your baby at all you are going to have to stop what you're doing and feed them.

And also, ok you're dedicated to your job but she DOES get paid time off.

Also, somebody at my work wants to schedule a c-section so the baby will be 'born' (extracted) on the dad's birthday (three weeks early). Seriously, wtf people? People have c-sections because of EMERGENCIES- they are MORE DANGEROUS than natural child birth.


People that do this piss me off and do a great disservice to thier children. Why even have them?
Cut them out when convenient, feed them toxic chinese formulas and farm them out to minimum wage workers. Hey, it's not your fault if they're f*cked up right?
Don't bother having them unless you are looking for the SSI benefits.
 
2012-11-28 09:53:11 PM
Gabrielmot:

Before him, the only atheists I'd met were pretty crappy people who just liked to make fun of the "guy on a stick" or the "sky wizard" that Christians all worshiped. -He's not like that; he respects that others have different beliefs than he does.

Honestly, because of this, it's hard for me to explain to my Christian friends sometimes why I have atheist friends. This guy makes it easy as he's easily a better person than most of us.


But he's still going to The Bad Place unless he worships Our Father Who Art, ain't he. Standard Christian theology holds that even a Joseph Stalin who repents on his deathbed and accepts Jesus into his heart has a better shot at avoiding burning forever in the Lake of Fire than any given atheist who's a wonderful person and spends his life doing good deeds.

Me, I'm a crappy person who spends his life avoiding people except on the Internet, and for me a good deed is sending $5 to the Wikipedia Foundation once in a lifetime. If there's any divine justice in the cosmos when I die I'll have to spend eternity in the Greyhound station in Cleveland.
 
2012-11-28 09:57:23 PM
ladyfortuna:

Fark always keeps things in perspective. I had a comparatively awesome childhood, despite fighting a bit with my mom during the 12-14 years.

But everybody fought with your mom then. There's a reason they called her Killer.
 
2012-11-28 10:01:16 PM

Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.


I get partial credit

Birth mother - I was going to get an abortion but your father said he would help me raise you and he wanted to start a family with me. When I was 7 months pregnant and it was too late for an abortion he told me he already had two others kids with different women. They were bleeding him dry for child support and he won't be able to support a third kid. So if I knew what was good for me - I'd better start looking for an adoption agency. He only lied because he thought God would punish him if he knew I was going to get abortion and he didn't stop me.

Honestly it doesn't really bug me that much that she wanted an abortion - it's not like I would have ever known had she done it. She did say she didn't regret carrying me to term, that she mostly wanted an abortion because she was afraid of what her grandmother (who was raising her) would do if she found out she got knocked up. Grandma ended up being cool with it because she though my dad was going to be in the picture and after he bailed, she put me up for adoption thus sparing grandma having to raise another kid. She did end up regretting putting me up for adoption, she didn't realize how much it would hurt and haunt her. But by that time it was too late to get me back, so she just got pregnant again with my sister.

Shait that did mess up me up for a long time:

Adoptive mother - You are eternal proof that some slut whore could have a baby and I couldn't. I was a virgin when I married your father, I was a good Christian wife and mother. What did that get me, what did God give me - some whore's bastard to raise. I don't love you, I've never loved you - I wanted babies of mine own. Good holy children born in Christian love. You...your a bastard conceived in sin- how could anyone love a bastard. You have failed your whole life to make me happy, you will never make anyone happy - your a failure and you will always be a failure.

Adoptive dad - he never said much, he just hit a lot. Luckily for me he mostly hit my adoptive mother. Years down the line when I had cut both of their worthless asses out of my life he wrote me a lovely letter. He blamed me for the fact my infant daughter died shortly after birth because I was bastard. Then he blamed me for getting breast cancer because I left their fuddie cult church.

They will die alone and I won't shred a tear for either of them. Family is what you make of it, I got my birth mother, biological sisters and my adoptive paternal grandfather, aunts and uncles. It took me a while but I've managed to build a family that respects me and I can respect back. Well that and tons of therapy (and for a few years before that tons of booze).
 
2012-11-28 10:04:53 PM
Fat-D:

Looking back I realized that my father struggled with a lot of shiat that nobody else recognized. I think I will be kind and not mention my mother....but my dad was the father of the 20th century.....and the entire world did nothing but shiat on him.

I'm glad I told my father I appreciated him & what he went through for us kids before he died. The man was a feckless nut but he meant well and did the best he could, when it would have been easier (and maybe better for him) to move out of state all by himself.

I don't wanna play house. It gave my daddy nervous breakdowns.
 
2012-11-28 10:10:10 PM
js34603:

There are a lot of farked up people in this thread.

Thanks! I aim to please!
 
2012-11-28 10:12:38 PM
hangloose:

Most of you seem pretty weak. Not just physically weak, but mentally weak. Quit living in the past and blubbering about your parents. Buck up and be a man (or, since this is Fark, a MtW freak.)

3/10.
 
2012-11-28 10:12:42 PM

Nana's Vibrator: If you are the second child, and you are the same gender as your older sibling, you were the wrong gender. We didn't want you. If you are the 3rd child, and you are the same gender as your 2 older siblings, you are the wrong gender. We didn't want you. Etc...


Your older brother was utterly crazy and we loved your younger sister, so we had no time for you. Well you did get two square meals a day and you weren't beaten, so there is that.

\Showed a GF a picture of me as a 10 year old, she was horrified.
 
2012-11-28 10:13:13 PM
My parents just told me how great I was doing. You're so smart. Good job. I bet you worked hard.

And if I ever asked them to pay attention, or provide any feedback or support: Don't push yourself too hard. I'm sure you're doing fine.

In other words, they mastered how to raise a child without ever paying attention or doing a damned thing. The one thing they did right was fork out the dough for me to go to good academic camps during the summer.

FYI, parents, if you just say the same damned thing all the time, you might as well not be there at all. Also, if your entire parenting strategy is based on not doing that one thing your parents did that bothered you, you might miss a few things you SHOULD be doing. Such as everything.
 
2012-11-28 10:17:00 PM
Fuggin Bizzy:

Daddy needs a drink to deal with all the beauty, to deal with all the madness, to keep from blowing up.

Davy needs a drink because he's a loser whose life sucks.

Nah. I like to drink because it's the one part of my life that's reliably enjoyable. It's not the same thing, really. Really!
 
2012-11-28 10:22:08 PM

queen biatch of the universe: Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...

Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.

I get partial credit

Birth mother - I was going to get an abortion but your father said he would help me raise you and he wanted to start a family with me. When I was 7 months pregnant and it was too late for an abortion he told me he already had two others kids with different women. They were bleeding him dry for child support and he won't be able to support a third kid. So if I knew what was good for me - I'd better start looking for an adoption agency. He only lied because he thought God would punish him if he knew I was going to get abortion and he didn't stop me.

Honestly it doesn't really bug me that much that she wanted an abortion - it's not like I would have ever known had she done it. She did say she didn't regret carrying me to term, that she mostly wanted an abortion because she was afraid of what her grandmother (who was raising her) would do if she found out she got knocked up. Grandma ended up being cool with it because she though my dad was going to be in the picture and after he bailed, she put me up for adoption thus sparing grandma having to raise another kid. She did end up regretting putting me up for adoption, she didn't realize how much it would hurt and haunt her. But by that time it was too late to get me back, so she just got pregnant again with my sister.

Shait that did mess up me up for a long time:

Adoptive mother - You are eternal proof that some slut whore could have a baby and I couldn't. I was a virgin when I married your father, I was a good Christian wife and mother. What did that get me, what did God give me - some whore's bastard to raise. I don't love you, I've never loved you - I wanted babies of mine own. Good holy children born in Chri ...


I'm gonna drink an extra fifth just for you.

Jebus.
 
2012-11-28 10:29:03 PM

JasonThomasX: My mom still won't explain to me why she brings an old barely-closeted gay man pretending to be her boyfriend around me when all he does is give me the googley-eyes and winks at me and checks me out every chance he can get and always tells me how cute and "pretty" I am right in front of her damn face.

She hasn't explained to me why she allows him to catcall to me and proposition me for sex and bring me over his weirdo nudist/group sex enthusiats' homes so they can get me alone in their bedrooms to proposition me for sex.

Is it that she wants to watch me have sex with this disgusting older man? Does she get off on the gross attention he gives me? I hate it and I hate him but yet she always brings his dumbass around, asking him to tell me how "good" I look. Its gross, its like my own mother is trying to pimp me out to some disgusting old fruit. Why does she want this??


Is it possible she owes him or his friends money? Does she think you are gay and have not realized it? It does sound like she is trying to pimp you out or allow him to use you to fulfill a perverse fantasy. If he were a friend of mine, I would set him on fire for what he and his friends are doing to you.
 
2012-11-28 10:58:28 PM

cgraves67: My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.


Don't get that one. One of the advantages of having kids is that they give you an excuse to engage in hobbies. My son, despite being 2, already has a pretty awesome collection of slot cars, model trains, R/C vehicles etc., all hobbies that are "daddy and me" activities. It doesn't seem too hard to have hobbies and include the kids. They'll like whatever you like (until they are teenagers) and can pretty much do any hobby other than hard drinking.
 
2012-11-28 11:07:24 PM

Spade: NASAM: Spade: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Spade: My love life was more important than you.

Yup. Wife and I already had this conversation. Our kids will never be more important than us.

And on the "you must act this way as your behavior reflects on me" we'll damn right.

Why do people like you breed?

Why does anybody?

But Sorry if I don't think children are special little snowflakes that deserve 100% of everything.

Wife's not breast feeding either.

You are a selfish douche. Why in the world would you want to have kids that are going to cut into your "me time".

Seriously, do us ALL a favor and sterilize yourself.

Why do you hate second wave feminists?

Probably either a woman hater or one of those pussy third wavers.


It has nothing to do with your wife not wanting to breast feed and everything to do with you being a self center shiat heel that is going raise a self loathing sociopath all because you are too farking stupid to understand that kids needs come before your own.
 
2012-11-28 11:13:58 PM

rosy621: Ah, where did they meet my mom?

Here's the deal: I need to appear a certain way, socially. So, I forced you to act how I needed you to act and do what I needed you to do. You were a reflection of me and I wasn't about to let you ruin my reputation!


I think we're related. Mine lived vicariously through me and our relationship disintegrated when I left the mold she raised me in. If she couldn't brag about me, I was a disappointment to her and she made sure I knew it. She refused to see I really wasn't meant to be married to a banker and a member of the Yacht club. NTTAWTT, but bleh. I loved her, but I can't say I liked her.
 
2012-11-28 11:29:21 PM

Spade: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Spade: My love life was more important than you.

Yup. Wife and I already had this conversation. Our kids will never be more important than us.

And on the "you must act this way as your behavior reflects on me" we'll damn right.

Why do people like you breed?

Why does anybody?

But Sorry if I don't think children are special little snowflakes that deserve 100% of everything.

Wife's not breast feeding either.


If you cannot view your own children as special to you, please reconsider parenthood. Too many children are raised without love, and they tend to spread their misery to everyone they encounter. Children taught by their parents that they are mediocre or worthless have very little chance of being anything more. I hope possess more care more for your children than you express, or I feel sorry for all of you.
 
2012-11-28 11:50:52 PM

hangloose: Most of you seem pretty weak. Not just physically weak, but mentally weak. Quit living in the past and blubbering about your parents. Buck up and be a man (or, since this is Fark, a MtW freak.)

Don't you have some bootstraps to polish or something? Why not try another thread. Yeesh.
 
2012-11-29 12:03:01 AM

Grapple: cgraves67: My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.

Actually, my wife could say this one. And it's killing me. She leaves the house for 6 hours for a ride on her motorcycle say, twice a week.., I stay home with my son. Suddenly, I'm not paying enough attention to her and we should consider ourselves "separated". Really?


You mean she's found someone else and that's the excuse, right?
 
2012-11-29 12:52:18 AM

Litig8r: Garbage. All children, at some point, hate their parents. It might be for a moment, or weeks, or even years. You can't grow up if you don't break away and learn to make your own call on how you would have done things within the context of how you do them now. But unless the parents were truly abusive, their children will always love them. The "horrible" truths they're talking about are a fantasy applicable in truth to only a small fraction of cases.

I'm sure my kids will come to me at some point and tell me why they thought I was a shiatty parent, or why they disagreed with the decisions I made and took, or why they hate me. And the best I'm going to be able to do is to tell them the reasons why I did what I did, admit that I make mistakes all the time, and hope that if they can't not judge me for the calls I made, that they can at least forgive me for making them -- because they are my reason for being.


Honestly, I don't think I ever hated my parents, even as a kid, They were pretty amazing parents.
 
2012-11-29 01:23:36 AM
IT'S GOOFY TIME!!
 
2012-11-29 01:25:38 AM
I feel so well-adjusted now. Thanks!
Someone told my father he had two fine sons. He said, "They were raised by wolves."
 
2012-11-29 02:45:02 AM
Most couples cant even commit to each other, let alone raising a child.
 
2012-11-29 09:15:08 AM

Esn: Balchinian: You all do realize that this "article" is actually an ad, right?

So? Almost ALL journalism is an ad for something or other, you should be especially suspicious when it's not obvious what it is advertising. These guys are upfront about what the ad is for, so it's okay in my book. There can be truths in something even if it was published to advertise.


Journalism =/= advertising. Advertising is what pays for journalism. Advertising is not what journalism is. Journalism is not merely a catch-all word encompassing all news reporting, even if the term is being (incorrectly) used that way by a large portion of the general public. Journalism is a very specific, and increasingly rare, subset of reporting which has a rigidly set code of standards and ethics. It has its own professional regulatory body responsible for enforcing those standards. And it largely produces sound, open, and well-written works.

Just because fewer and fewer people hire professional journalists, just because you don't read anything written by professional journalists, and/or just because everybody else calls everything news-related by the name "journalism" does not make it so. It would be akin to calling all shoes "penny loafers".
 
2012-11-29 12:45:15 PM

queen biatch of the universe: DesktopHippie: Spade: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Spade:

Wife's not breast feeding either.

Cause them titties is all yours, amirite!?

She doesn't want to. Feels it takes too much time. She has a career she's worked hard for and doesn't feel the need to bow to any little tyrants.

/second wave baby

Ha! Of course. Sterilizing bottles and feeders and making the formula and heating it up and dumping all the stuff in the dishwasher after is *so* much faster than letting the little barracuda latch on to a breast and have at it. Or maybe you assume feminists consider all babies to be parasites that should feed themselves from birth?

Pretty much this, although I think Spade is trolling everyone. No kids of mine own but my sister breastfed kids number one and three. Outside of some early latching problems with the first one, everything went smoothly and it was easy - put baby on breast and feed, when done remove. Her second kid having classic galactosemia, which is one of the very few condition in which breastfeeding is fatal or can cause massive health problems, had to use non-dairy formula. The second kids was a bigger pain in the neck to feed because she had to make her own formula (too risky if the company had a screw up and got dairy in the formula, so she made her own), sterilize the bottle, feed the kid, clean the bottles. Only upside is that she quickly learned which "hippie" and "crunchy" mom friends of her were true friends. So sad that some mothers would rather ostracize a woman who has a child with a legitimate health problem, then admit that there are rare cases when breast is not always best.


My wife's cousin's wife is one of those militant "natural-EVERYTHING" mothers who likes to call other people out for not doing things the same way with their own children...she was reading the riot act to a different cousin on Thanksgiving for bottle-feeding her newborn, and she actually used the phrase "Big Formula" to refer to the evil global cabal that is the Similac Corporation. Just to be a wise-ass I chimed in with "That's just what Big Titty WANTS you to think!", and as she turned to start biatching at me too, every one of my wife's uncles came piling in to see what all the "big titty" fuss was about, and I was spared any wrath.

Not terribly relevant, but hey...boobs...
 
2012-11-29 01:30:43 PM

Tellingthem: Ok one of my favorite bad parent stories is when my dad forced me to take ballet classes as a kid because he knew the other kids would tease me and beat me up when they found out...which they did. All because he thought I was too soft.

Another is when instead of mailing my college applications like he said he would do (he said he wanted to do something nice for me). He threw them away so I wouldn't be accepted to any colleges and would have to stay at home.

\wasn't that bad though
\\somebody always has it worse than you


Is your last name McCourt?
 
2012-11-29 01:48:47 PM

Farkborn: schubie: I was nearly in tears today b/c the awesome parents day out at the non-wacky Episcopalian church is closing due to lack of interest. I was sad b/c it was a safe place to stow my kid and he loved it. Also goddamn, do you know any 18 months olds? They can be relentlessly annoying. I felt like a bad parent but then I read this article.

/Thanks this article.

Yeah father of a 21 month old here.. I understand, but can be partially avoided. My daughter was actually quite nice to be around until she started going to pre-school. She has learned some very bad manners from those other kids.

On another note, more on topic, I know a woman whose childhood story would make most people go DAAAAAAAAAAAAAmn. Her mom was a teacher, and a drug addict, as she slid into uselessness she couldn't afford the drugs, so she pimped out her daughter to pedophiles to make money. When her daughter was a preschooler. Then when her daughter was in her teens, she had to take care of her drug addled mother.. man the stories she will tell sometimes. the whole mom sewing her parts back together after she was raped by the man her mom was selling her to.. by her mom, because can't get medical treatment for that.


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/jk....really.....just kidding.....
 
2012-11-29 01:57:28 PM

Gabrielmot: Nana's Vibrator: Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.

/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.

Not many aborted fetuses posting on Fark these days...

Yeah, fark atheists will love this one... the reason I think I wasn't aborted was the two of them were too chickenshiat to do it because they thought they'd go to hell...

God saved me... literally.


Hmm. I do love that one. But I cannot say for certain whether you were being sarcastic or not as I'm technically an agnostic.

///Just because "God" doesn't exist in the way most people think "he" does doesn't mean people cannot do very good and very bad things in "his" name.

Thanks God! (This all assumes you live a worthwhile life; I'm willing to make that assumption:)
 
2012-11-29 02:08:06 PM

pxlboy: omelete: Grapple: cgraves67: My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.

Actually, my wife could say this one. And it's killing me. She leaves the house for 6 hours for a ride on her motorcycle say, twice a week.., I stay home with my son. Suddenly, I'm not paying enough attention to her and we should consider ourselves "separated". Really?

Sounds like she's riding more than a motorcycle to me.

This.


A close old friend of mine told me last spring that his wife was being very distant and saying she wasn't sure where they were headed.

Turns out she was banging the VP she met on a work trip the prior month. She left my friend and their son to chase her dream guy. As soon as the VP's wife found out he (the VP) went straight home to try to fix his marriage (aka get out of paying child support for his four kids). Meaning he finally got caught getting his illicit fun sex with whatever new chick believed they had made a real "connection". My friends wife of 14 years was just his latest piece of side pussy. He (my friend) initally said he would never reconcile but now they've moved back in together. We'll see.

So, yeah, sadly from the info you've given your wife is very likely saying you're separated to justify the sex she's already been having.

Sorry man
 
2012-11-29 02:11:48 PM

The_Homeless_Guy: cgraves67: My hobbies are a higher priority than your life.

Don't get that one. One of the advantages of having kids is that they give you an excuse to engage in hobbies. My son, despite being 2, already has a pretty awesome collection of slot cars, model trains, R/C vehicles etc., all hobbies that are "daddy and me" activities. It doesn't seem too hard to have hobbies and include the kids. They'll like whatever you like (until they are teenagers) and can pretty much do any hobby other than hard drinking.


I'm thinking golf with buddies, skydiving, going to the bar for karaoke, things you can't do with a young child, or even hobbies you could share but won't. Everyone, EVERYONE, deserves days off, I'd say two evenings a week off from parenting with one shared with your spouse is basically a must to keep from going totally crazy, but I've had friends with a parent or two or might as well have been gone entirely, for all they saw each other.
 
2012-11-29 02:30:44 PM

LordBollocks: [cdn.ebaumsworld.com image 600x299]


Dude....that's farked-up.
 
2012-11-29 02:35:10 PM

Gabrielmot: Weak article is weak... here's what *real* bad parents say...
Mom: You should thank me because your father wanted to abort you.
Dad: That's not true! It was your mom who wanted to abort you.
/beat that Fark, I have the worst parents in the world... prove me wrong.



My parents divorced when I was 4 because they are both assholes.
My dad was an alcoholic.
We went to live with my mother.
She beat the living shiat out of me daily, all the while screaming how much she hated me and wished she never
had had kids, that I had ruined her life.
She went to work at 5 in the morning, and before she left for work, at least 3 times a week,
she would come in my room, turn on the over head light, and proceed to scream at me, while
she was trashing my room.
She'd empty the closet, sweep her hand across the dresser, pull the stuff off the bed, creating a large pile
of everything on the floor.
There was some beating mixed in there, and of course, the non stop verbal abuse.
Then I was told to clean it all up before I had to go to school.

I would usually just fall asleep in the pile of stuff, and them be late to school.
I was late to school every single day, and since I had no adult help getting ready, I usually went to school
a total mess.
That was fun, getting made fun of every single day for things like my hair being messy or my clothes being lame.
Needless to say, I was not a popular kid, so I was all alone in this thing that was my young life.

Also being as it was the 70's, there was no such thing as a teacher paying attention to what an abused kid might look like. So it continued. We really should not have been allowed to live with that woman called my mother....

Oh I could go on and on, but I'm not going to write a book on fark.
I just wanted to show you that you probably didn't have the worst parents.
It can always be worse.
/Careful what you wish for........
 
2012-11-29 03:08:29 PM

no clever name here just move along: can always be worse


Here's a hug. (((you))
 
2012-11-29 03:13:17 PM

Keigh: no clever name here just move along: can always be worse

Here's a hug. (((you))


Aw, thanks, I wrote that and then read the rest of the thread.....

Thank goodness there was no sexual abuse! That story about the mom selling her kid to men is just horrible.
That poor girl. :(

And thank goodness, now that I am 44, I have a much better adult life than you would think having grown up like that.

I just wish I hadn't believed my mother that kids ruin your life, because now that it's too late, I would like to have some......
oh well.
 
2012-11-29 03:38:32 PM

no clever name here just move along: ***snip***

I just wish I hadn't believed my mother that kids ruin your life, because now that it's too late, I would like to have some......
oh well.


You know that hospitals have whole rooms full of them, right? They even have a viewing window so you can pick which one you want, then you just wheel it out to your car.


///Whenever strangers come up and exclaim how cute my daughter is, I always want to reply, "Ya, that's why we took her instead of the one we came in with."
 
2012-11-29 03:45:55 PM

roc6783: no clever name here just move along: ***snip***

I just wish I hadn't believed my mother that kids ruin your life, because now that it's too late, I would like to have some......
oh well.

You know that hospitals have whole rooms full of them, right? They even have a viewing window so you can pick which one you want, then you just wheel it out to your car.


///Whenever strangers come up and exclaim how cute my daughter is, I always want to reply, "Ya, that's why we took her instead of the one we came in with."


haha... yeah I meant more like 'being taught that a union w another person that results in the tight knit little family is ok.'

/ a friend's teen age son that I recently met showed us a huge birthmark on his arm while we were having a discussion about skin cancer.
His dad commented that he was glad the kid was born with it, because that way they would know they were taking home the right baby from the hospital. It was cute.
 
2012-11-29 07:34:57 PM
notatrollorami:

[...]
He (my friend) initally said he would never reconcile but now they've moved back in together. We'll see.

So, yeah, sadly from the info you've given your wife is very likely saying you're separated to justify the sex she's already been having.


This is why I prefer open relationships. Go have your flings, have fun. None of this "I'm married to X but Y turns me on so I must not love X anymore" type shiat: ball Y, have fun, and come home to the guy who cooks for you and throws out the trash.

Women put themselves and everybody else through all kinds of changes to "justify" the same kind of things men do on the down low. We don't plan on leaving you for the read-headed hooker at the Dental Association convention, so women should learn to keep things in perspective too. A side-fling doesn't have to wreck two or three or four lives.

This doesn't mean I'd want to hear about it in detail, nor does it mean I'd want to meet the guy. Just that there should be nothing you have to hide very hard. (If there is you should seek help.)
 
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