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(RotoExperts)   BREAKING: Jon Gruden Going to the Tennessee Browns... Wait, What?   (rotoexperts.com) divider line 69
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2012-11-28 10:53:04 AM
Well, whatever gets him out of the broadcast booth, I suppose.
 
2012-11-28 10:59:56 AM
The owner of one of the worst teams in professional football giving a top flight coach partial ownership for coaching a college team instead of said professional team makes perfect sense.
 
2012-11-28 11:00:03 AM
I don't get what makes this guy such a supposedly great coach. His lifetime winning percentage is 0.554, and the only season he really accomplished anything special was the one where he was lucky enough to have the opposing team's playbook during the last game.
 
2012-11-28 11:00:40 AM
Except that the Browns, Vols, and Gruden all deny the report. Link
 
2012-11-28 11:01:14 AM
I love that guy
 
2012-11-28 11:02:29 AM
Anything to get that guy out of the booth. He must have been trying to get fired after that segment about Buick LeSabres on MNF.
 
2012-11-28 11:03:38 AM

calm like a bomb: I don't get what makes this guy such a supposedly great coach. His lifetime winning percentage is 0.554, and the only season he really accomplished anything special was the one where he was lucky enough to have the opposing team's playbook during the last game.


He really knows how to play football in the National Football League
 
2012-11-28 11:04:39 AM
Anything that keeps him out of San Diego works for me.
 
2012-11-28 11:04:44 AM

Treygreen13: Anything to get that guy out of the booth. He must have been trying to get fired after that segment about Buick LeSabres on MNF.


Well, it's not as if his coaching was all that great. Standing on the sidelines and grimacing like he needed to take a shiat is the only way he became "known" as a coach.

/inherited the team from Tony Dungy
 
2012-11-28 11:06:46 AM

Lost Thought 00: calm like a bomb: I don't get what makes this guy such a supposedly great coach. His lifetime winning percentage is 0.554, and the only season he really accomplished anything special was the one where he was lucky enough to have the opposing team's playbook during the last game.

He really knows how to play football in the National Football League


He's right up there with such victory machines as Jason Garrett and Ken Whisenhunt.
 
2012-11-28 11:08:54 AM
Thank god. Never understood why Philly is jizzing so much over the possibility of him coaching the Eagles.

Wasilla Hillbilly: Well, whatever gets him out of the broadcast booth, I suppose.


And so much THIS.
 
2012-11-28 11:10:35 AM

calm like a bomb: I don't get what makes this guy such a supposedly great coach. His lifetime winning percentage is 0.554, and the only season he really accomplished anything special was the one where he was lucky enough to have the opposing team's playbook during the last game.


Gruden put together a pretty good team in Oakland (in spite of Al Davis) and won a Super Bowl with Brad Johnson at QB. You don't think that's impressive?
 
2012-11-28 11:14:28 AM
I want to see Chucky land in Dallas, Norv Turner in Philly, Andy Reid in San Diego, Chip Kelly in Kansas City and Jason Garrett at Oregon in 2013. For maximum lulz
 
2012-11-28 11:15:06 AM

SuperChuck: Gruden put together a pretty good team in Oakland (in spite of Al Davis) and won a Super Bowl with Brad Johnson at QB. You don't think that's impressive?


Not really. Lots of coaches put together pretty good teams once or twice during their careers, and his SB victory will always be marred by the fact he coached the team he beat the year before (and they didn't change his offense that much). Looking at the totality of his career, he's a 0.500 coach that has had a couple of decent years. For the most part, he's a media creation.
 
2012-11-28 11:19:05 AM
Upon visiting the Tennessee campus, Gruden remarked that they were all great kids, just a bunch of really great kids.
 
2012-11-28 11:19:57 AM

LucklessWonder: I want to see Chucky land in Dallas


I can see it now. Tony throws a pick and walks off the field. Gruden walks up and says, "Tony, I need you to go out there and just GRIND it. You understand me?! GO OUT THERE AND BE A FOOTBALL PLAYER! Now go live up to that nickname I gave you, BROCHACHO!"
 
2012-11-28 11:22:31 AM
If this gets Tony Kornheiser back in the booth, I'm all for it.
 
2012-11-28 11:25:18 AM

VvonderJesus: If this gets Tony Kornheiser back in the booth, I'm all for it.


Farkied as "delusional; probable masochist"
 
2012-11-28 11:26:21 AM

calm like a bomb: Lost Thought 00: calm like a bomb: I don't get what makes this guy such a supposedly great coach. His lifetime winning percentage is 0.554, and the only season he really accomplished anything special was the one where he was lucky enough to have the opposing team's playbook during the last game.

He really knows how to play football in the National Football League

He's right up there with such victory machines as Jason Garrett and Ken Whisenhunt.


Except THIS GUY has Super Bowl hardware.

Plus, he was legend at his time in Green Bay. THIS GUY would bike to work. At 4 am. In December. In Wisconsin.

Have you ever ridden a bicycle in a foot of snow?

HARDEST WORKING GUY IN THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE.

And he calls people 'slappy', which is short for slap nuts. If you can't figure that one out, please don't ask.
 
2012-11-28 11:26:40 AM

calm like a bomb: SuperChuck: Gruden put together a pretty good team in Oakland (in spite of Al Davis) and won a Super Bowl with Brad Johnson at QB. You don't think that's impressive?

Not really. Lots of coaches put together pretty good teams once or twice during their careers, and his SB victory will always be marred by the fact he coached the team he beat the year before (and they didn't change his offense that much). Looking at the totality of his career, he's a 0.500 coach that has had a couple of decent years. For the most part, he's a media creation.


We can debate whether or not he's a great coach based on your arguments, but he's still a good coach based on what he did with the Raiders following the disaster that was Joe Bugel.

Which leads me to my point. Gruden is like any other good NFL coach - they know enough of the formula for success in the NFL, and it relies on scheme and practice. Coaching college football requires recruiting, glad-handing, playing politics with the boosters, and most importantly you have restrictions on when you can work out your players.

And now Gruden is saying there's no offer. Doesn't surprise me.
 
2012-11-28 11:26:46 AM
i'm ok with this...
 
2012-11-28 11:43:13 AM
so, there's a new "sheriff" in town?
 
2012-11-28 11:44:23 AM
I want to see Chucky back working the fryer at Hooters.

Vicky! Vicky! Order up! We're gonna run Twelve TMI No Bread High-Top Option Ranch. Get your farking head in the game, Vicky!
 
2012-11-28 11:51:28 AM
I'm going to miss his sexually threatening broadcast style.
 
2012-11-28 11:54:12 AM
www.smackapparel.com
 
2012-11-28 11:54:35 AM
It's a done deal! They threw in a portion of the Browns, gave him one of Peytons houses on the river, and his wife gets to take over on MNF. Also he gets free Krystal and unlimited Moon Pies for life!!!
 
2012-11-28 11:55:42 AM

Treygreen13: LucklessWonder: I want to see Chucky land in Dallas

I can see it now. Tony throws a pick and walks off the field. Gruden walks up and says, "Tony, I need you to go out there and just GRIND it. You understand me?! GO OUT THERE AND BE A FOOTBALL PLAYER! Now go live up to that nickname I gave you, BROCHACHO!"


That reads worryingly like KSK's Rex Ryan parody. Actually, Rex landing in Dallas would rule, especially if he keeps Wolfman Rob on as an assistant.
 
2012-11-28 11:56:33 AM
He's a doofus. He belongs in Philly.
 
2012-11-28 11:58:31 AM
Gruden is denying the rumors. At least for now.
 
2012-11-28 12:15:50 PM
At least on MNF we wouldn't have to listen to THAT GUY
 
2012-11-28 12:19:28 PM
I realize how he appears on TV, but I'm convinced that like many people in the media, there's "TV Gruden" and "Coach Gruden." I cannot discount that every single story I've read, be it large or small media, has cited him as one of the smartest, hardest working guys in the NFL. He can seem like a clown in the booth, but wouldn't someone that smart cook up a character to play on TV? It's what the TV people want, anyway. Of course he dumbs things down for TV; he knows who his audience is, and they aren't frequent museum patrons or waiting in line to see the next indie art house film.

I don't mean to white knight him, but you can't ignore the consistent "he's a brilliant football mind" comments from just about every interviewer that's spent time with him- they can't all be trying to get in his pants.

As an aside, how often to NFL coaches (successful ones) go back to college? I wouldn't call Charlie Weis successful- was he even HC? As has been pointed out, there's much much more political BS and restrictions on college coaching; if he's truly a "football guy" why would he want to deal with that if he has a choice?
 
2012-11-28 12:30:29 PM
Not sure who is more delusional this year, Tennessee, Auburn or Arkansas.

Auburn dude told me they could get Jeff Fisher.....the third highest paid NFL coach
 
2012-11-28 12:31:32 PM
He's not dumb enough to give up that cushy MNF gig.
 
2012-11-28 12:31:53 PM

Treygreen13: Anything to get that guy out of the booth. He must have been trying to get fired after that segment about Buick LeSabres on MNF.


Agree, get him out of the booth but that Buick thing was amusing.

FTA: "Boot up your computer and..."

:-/
 
2012-11-28 12:37:00 PM
Whatever you think of Gruden, and I don't think much (generic Walsh/Holmgren disciple #45 on the sideline, incomprehensible on TV), this deal would never be allowed. Coaching one team while having a material ownership interest in another pretty obviously threatens the integrity of the game. In fact, if Haslam really put this on the table, he should probably be penalized pretty harshly.
 
2012-11-28 12:41:31 PM
FTA: "Offensive coordinator John Chaney will coach Tennessee's last game against Kentucky on Saturday in Knoxville."

Breaking? That game was 4 days ago. Bad Subby!!
 
2012-11-28 12:43:51 PM

pmmal: Whatever you think of Gruden, and I don't think much (generic Walsh/Holmgren disciple #45 on the sideline, incomprehensible on TV), this deal would never be allowed. Coaching one team while having a material ownership interest in another pretty obviously threatens the integrity of the game. In fact, if Haslam really put this on the table, he should probably be penalized pretty harshly.


Uh, they don't compete against each other, so I don't see how that would be an issue
 
2012-11-28 12:44:58 PM
I used to like Gruden before I had to hear him talk on TV all the time.
 
2012-11-28 12:47:51 PM

Hang On Voltaire: Not sure who is more delusional this year, Tennessee, Auburn or Arkansas.

Auburn dude told me they could get Jeff Fisher.....the third highest paid NFL coach


yeah, but to be fair arkansas thinks les miles is going to leave lsu (only major program in a talent rich state with great food) to coach arkansas (shiatty program in a no talent assclown state with insane delusional fans).
 
2012-11-28 12:51:15 PM

Farkn Yaj Yenrac: The owner of one of the worst teams in professional football giving a top flight coach partial ownership for coaching a college team instead of said professional team makes perfect sense.


i580.photobucket.com

Unless you meant coordinator or position coach.
 
2012-11-28 12:59:02 PM

calm like a bomb: SuperChuck: Gruden put together a pretty good team in Oakland (in spite of Al Davis) and won a Super Bowl with Brad Johnson at QB. You don't think that's impressive?

Not really. Lots of coaches put together pretty good teams once or twice during their careers, and his SB victory will always be marred by the fact he coached the team he beat the year before (and they didn't change his offense that much). Looking at the totality of his career, he's a 0.500 coach that has had a couple of decent years. For the most part, he's a media creation.


As a Bills fan I would love a .500 coach.
 
2012-11-28 01:00:41 PM

Lost Thought 00: pmmal: Whatever you think of Gruden, and I don't think much (generic Walsh/Holmgren disciple #45 on the sideline, incomprehensible on TV), this deal would never be allowed. Coaching one team while having a material ownership interest in another pretty obviously threatens the integrity of the game. In fact, if Haslam really put this on the table, he should probably be penalized pretty harshly.

Uh, they don't compete against each other, so I don't see how that would be an issue


Good chance for a conflict of interest when the draft comes around, though. He'd have a financial incentive to steer his players toward the Browns even though that may not be a good deal for the player, or to give the Browns information on draftees that other drafting NFL teams wouldn't have access to.
 
2012-11-28 01:15:28 PM
Please please please do not hire him to coach the Browns.

/Browns fan
//Suffered enough
 
2012-11-28 01:18:20 PM
can we talk about the amazing press conference that happened at colorado when they fired jon embree? it's spectacular.
 
2012-11-28 01:19:45 PM
He denied all this on Mike and Mike this morning.
 
2012-11-28 01:22:21 PM

Irving R. Pointystick: Lost Thought 00: pmmal: ***snip***

Good chance for a conflict of interest when the draft comes around, though. He'd have a financial incentive to steer his players toward the Browns even though that may not be a good deal for the player, or to give the Browns information on draftees that other drafting NFL teams wouldn't have access to.


How would he steer his players towards the Browns in the draft? Also, insider information trading on draft prospects is the norm, not an exception. I guess he could lie to NFL scouts, but why the hell would they take anything any college coach says at face value anyway? Why would he be obligated more than any other college coach to share information with the NFL?

The only thing I could see as a potential conflict is him promising recruits that the Browns would draft them if they came to Tennessee, which, from my understanding, no college coach is allowed to do any way. And the thing about him being paid by the Bucs while having an interest in another team may violate NFL bylaws.
 
2012-11-28 01:26:43 PM

pmmal: Whatever you think of Gruden, and I don't think much (generic Walsh/Holmgren disciple #45 on the sideline, incomprehensible on TV), this deal would never be allowed. Coaching one team while having a material ownership interest in another pretty obviously threatens the integrity of the game. In fact, if Haslam really put this on the table, he should probably be penalized pretty harshly.


You're apparently unaware that the University of Tennessee is not in the National Football League.
 
2012-11-28 01:27:23 PM
So I don't have to listen to him mumble through a broadcast about This Guy and That Gy and Here's a Guy, and they're running the ole 47 slant package, and the ole Deebop Double Slot and the ole Bruiser Back Special and Gruden's Grinder.
 
2012-11-28 01:40:50 PM
EVEN IF this deal were to go through, and Gruden is saying there is no offer (take that for what it's worth), giving Gruden part ownership of the Browns as compensation for coaching Tennessee would violate NCAA rules - unless the ownership share was donated to the university first.

I doubt this is going to happen, for any number of reasons. But assuming it would means that the school would (temporarily, or permanently if something were to go wrong in the hiring process) have partial ownership in a pro team.

And you all don't see why there might be a problem with that, or with the coach of a college team being invested in pro ownership? Considering all of the issues the sport has had over the last few years with athletes and agents, or with improper compensation? And then to potentially have a stake in a pro team involved? That's just asking for a whole lot of unnecessary trouble coming straight from Indianapolis.
 
2012-11-28 02:08:26 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Treygreen13: Anything to get that guy out of the booth. He must have been trying to get fired after that segment about Buick LeSabres on MNF.

Well, it's not as if his coaching was all that great. Standing on the sidelines and grimacing like he needed to take a shiat is the only way he became "known" as a coach.

/inherited the team from Tony Dungy


i believe it's called 'scoreboard'

dude coached his team to get a chance to play in the big game and won
dude has a ring

saying something as ignorant as that is not giving credit where it's due.

/haters gotta hate i suppose
 
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