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2012-11-28 09:29:20 AM
they should teach conference realignment as a course at schools so the student athletes can keep track.

test questions:

what conference are you in?
what are the other schools in your conference?
how much money are you being paid to play college sports?

for the NCAA, this must be embarrassing.
 
2012-11-28 10:57:03 AM

SlothB77: they should teach conference realignment as a course at schools so the student athletes can keep track.


I'd like to request that the AARP put out a pamphlet as well.

I don't know, on the face of this it sounds OK with me. Louisville; nice school, nice mascot, decent sports history. I'm more concerned with the long term projections that are being thrown around about the ACC pretty much disappearing when all this is done, if that point ever comes.
 
2012-11-28 10:59:32 AM

lunchinlewis: SlothB77: they should teach conference realignment as a course at schools so the student athletes can keep track.

I'd like to request that the AARP put out a pamphlet as well.

I don't know, on the face of this it sounds OK with me. Louisville; nice school, nice mascot, decent sports history. I'm more concerned with the long term projections that are being thrown around about the ACC pretty much disappearing when all this is done, if that point ever comes.


I'm a grad student at Louisville. Our mascot should not have teeth. We, as graduate students, are disturbed by this, especially since the mascot is everywhere. Creepy.
 
2012-11-28 11:24:26 AM
I was hoping the Big XII would have gotten their heads out of their asses with the new leadership and snagged them first, but I see they are still bumbling around.
 
2012-11-28 11:31:58 AM
Totally thought this was about women's volleyball or gymnastics.
 
2012-11-28 11:35:49 AM

slepygryhnd: lunchinlewis: SlothB77: they should teach conference realignment as a course at schools so the student athletes can keep track.

I'd like to request that the AARP put out a pamphlet as well.

I don't know, on the face of this it sounds OK with me. Louisville; nice school, nice mascot, decent sports history. I'm more concerned with the long term projections that are being thrown around about the ACC pretty much disappearing when all this is done, if that point ever comes.

I'm a grad student at Louisville. Our mascot should not have teeth. We, as graduate students, are disturbed by this, especially since the mascot is everywhere. Creepy.


I never got that either. It's a bird with a beak with teeth inside the beak.
 
2012-11-28 11:39:23 AM
Louisville over UConn makes sense from the "we care about football more than basketball" stance, but I still think UConn would have been the better fit.

The ACC really needs to change their logo though.
 
2012-11-28 11:41:34 AM

lunchinlewis: I'm more concerned with the long term projections that are being thrown around about the ACC pretty much disappearing when all this is done, if that point ever comes.


The long term projections assume that all TV money is driven by football. That's largely true, but the ACC's basketball product is almost as profitable as it's football product and historically has kept the ACC's TV money higher than other conferences, even as the ACC invents new ways to lose BCS football games. This move brings in a few major, major rivalry games to add to the basketball value. People can disregard the NCAA regular season all they want, but sponsors are still easy to come by when the ACC stacks up college basketball royalty in it's ranks.
 
2012-11-28 11:43:23 AM

degenerate-afro: Louisville over UConn makes sense from the "we care about football more than basketball" stance, but I still think UConn would have been the better fit.


Never going to get Kentucky, and expanding into that area puts a major rivalry game in Lousville-Kentucky on the calenders, and is a major push for getting ACC games on TV's moving toward the Mid West. Adding Louisville helps Notre Dame come in as a full member in the future.
 
2012-11-28 11:47:43 AM
ACC needed more dumb hot trashy girls. Loserville to the rescue

cfbsection.com
 
2012-11-28 11:51:04 AM

tanman1975: ACC needed more dumb hot trashy girls. Loserville to the rescue

[cfbsection.com image 500x334]


It's pronounced "Luhhuhhhvuhll".
 
2012-11-28 11:51:24 AM

basemetal: I was hoping the Big XII would have gotten their heads out of their asses with the new leadership and snagged them first, but I see they are still bumbling around.


Notre Dame To the ACC
Florida State
Clemson
Georgia Tech

All three approved the exit fee suit against Maryland and with Louisville joining, no need to exit.
Louisville To the ACC
Cincinnati
Boise State
BYU
San Diego State
USF
Colorado State
New Mexico
Houston
UTSA
Tulsa
Louisiana
Troy

Options for Big XII expansion are really limited now.
 
2012-11-28 11:55:48 AM
The best thing about this is, Louisville sells beer at their home games!!! Road Trip!!
 
2012-11-28 11:56:12 AM

Minarets: basemetal: I was hoping the Big XII would have gotten their heads out of their asses with the new leadership and snagged them first, but I see they are still bumbling around.

Notre Dame To the ACC
Florida State
Clemson
Georgia Tech
All three approved the exit fee suit against Maryland and with Louisville joining, no need to exit.
Louisville To the ACC
Cincinnati
Boise State
BYU
San Diego State
USF
Colorado State
New Mexico
Houston
UTSA
Tulsa
Louisiana
Troy

Options for Big XII expansion are really limited now.


Being a UofL fan I am glad we are now in the ACC over the BigXII for the simple fact of travel. See WVU for that problem.

The BigXII should now go after Boise State and BYU and leave the rest to hang
 
2012-11-28 11:56:39 AM

Minarets: basemetal: I was hoping the Big XII would have gotten their heads out of their asses with the new leadership and snagged them first, but I see they are still bumbling around.

Notre Dame To the ACC
Florida State
Clemson
Georgia Tech
All three approved the exit fee suit against Maryland and with Louisville joining, no need to exit.
Louisville To the ACC
Cincinnati
Boise State
BYU
San Diego State
USF
Colorado State
New Mexico
Houston
UTSA
Tulsa
Louisiana
Troy

Options for Big XII expansion are really limited now.


That's like when the Big East said none of the football schools need to leave because Boise State was joining. The ACC is going to get picked apart as bad as the Big East was, they'll just be left with a good set of basketball programs.
 
2012-11-28 11:56:50 AM

Minarets: basemetal: I was hoping the Big XII would have gotten their heads out of their asses with the new leadership and snagged them first, but I see they are still bumbling around.

Notre Dame To the ACC
Florida State
Clemson
Georgia Tech
All three approved the exit fee suit against Maryland and with Louisville joining, no need to exit.
Louisville To the ACC
Cincinnati
Boise State
BYU
San Diego State
USF
Colorado State
New Mexico
Houston
UTSA
Tulsa
Louisiana
Troy

Options for Big XII expansion are really limited now.


Wyoming?
 
2012-11-28 11:57:31 AM

greenbowlpacker: The best thing about this is, Louisville sells beer at their home games!!! Road Trip!!


I don't know if the ACC has a conference wide ban or not, but if it does you'll be out of luck.

/the SEC has a conference wide ban
 
2012-11-28 12:00:25 PM

WillyShwonka: That's like when the Big East said none of the football schools need to leave because Boise State was joining. The ACC is going to get picked apart as bad as the Big East was, they'll just be left with a good set of basketball programs.


The Big East's exit fee was not $53,000,000 either.

Will be interesting to see how Maryland's exit plays out.
 
2012-11-28 12:02:08 PM

basemetal: I was hoping the Big XII would have gotten their heads out of their asses with the new leadership and snagged them first, but I see they are still bumbling around.


Big 12 probably realizes there won't be a conference left after OU, Oklahoma St., Texas, and Texas Tech bolt for the Pac-12. KU goes to the Big Ten (along with North Carolina, to make it 16). Rest of the Big Ten is relegated to poverty row - MWC, "Big East," or C-USA.
 
2012-11-28 12:06:56 PM
As for Big XII expansion, why would UT and OU want to share their pie any more ways than it's already split? No advantage I can think of, except the $$ of a championship game at the Jerrydome. The other 8 schools? Sure. They get stability out of expansion. ISU and KSU and Baylor can peer over the side and see the abyss of MWC/MAC membership.

UT and OU, though, just don't care. There's no conceivable circumstance where they get the short end of the stick. Any other power conference would take those two. They could be independent. They could reform a TX/OK-only league of patsies if they really had to (SMU/Rice/Houston/Tulsa/UNT/whaddever).

No other league has that level of power disparity.
 
2012-11-28 12:07:29 PM

Mr Guy: The long term projections assume that all TV money is driven by football. That's largely true, but the ACC's basketball product is almost as profitable as it's football product


Seems to me the ACC's basketball product consists mostly of the UNC-Duke super-hyped rivalry games. Maryland-Duke had a pretty good thing going to. Other than that, I'm scratching my head trying to think of much must-see ACC basketball. Even the tournament seems down, I bet the attendance numbers would probably reflect that over the past 10 years.

But having said all that, it still probably does closely follow ACC football. That's still not saying much.
 
2012-11-28 12:17:52 PM

Minarets: basemetal: I was hoping the Big XII would have gotten their heads out of their asses with the new leadership and snagged them first, but I see they are still bumbling around.

Notre Dame To the ACC
Florida State
Clemson
Georgia Tech

All three approved the exit fee suit against Maryland and with Louisville joining, no need to exit.
Louisville To the ACC
Cincinnati
Boise State
BYU
San Diego State
USF
Colorado State
New Mexico
Houston
UTSA
Tulsa
Louisiana
Troy

Options for Big XII expansion are really limited now.


Please! Texas could donate to cover those exit fees with what it finds down between its sofa cushions.
 
2012-11-28 12:18:21 PM
In the past, Louisville and Cincinnati always changed conferences at the same time, remaining intra-conference rivals. They jumped from The Metro, to Conference USA then to The Big East at the same time. Will that finally end here? I am not aware of a time when they were not in the same conference.
 
2012-11-28 12:21:02 PM
I fear that the A10 is going to get poached by Big East. That will piss me off more than the Big East disappearing.
 
2012-11-28 12:24:35 PM
stupid farking realignment bullshiat. can they at least do this during the off season so we can just follow football now? greedy money chasing whores. and yet they won't pay the players. and conference with more than 10 members can't even accurately determine a champion, the flukes of the crossover schedule are too influential (see: georgia, university of). fark this shiat!

images4.static-bluray.com

/this bubble will burst some day... 
//the money can't just keep going up and up
 
2012-11-28 12:26:04 PM
So much for the "Atlantic Coast" Conference, what with ND and Louisville now joining the league. At least BC and VT were in states with Atlantic coasts. So did Syracuse and Pitt, but with the latest two, they need a new name.

Maybe "the teams that can't beat the SEC in football" league will work.
 
2012-11-28 12:29:30 PM
Tidbit: based on most recent figures, Louisville's athletics department budget would be the highest in the ACC, with FSU close behind.
 
2012-11-28 12:30:40 PM

greenbowlpacker: The best thing about this is, Louisville sells beer at their home games!!! Road Trip!!


beer sales are based on conference rules. if the ACC doesn't allow alcohol sales, then UL will have to stop.
 
2012-11-28 12:32:07 PM

Bendal: So much for the "Atlantic Coast" Conference, what with ND and Louisville now joining the league. At least BC and VT were in states with Atlantic coasts. So did Syracuse and Pitt, but with the latest two, they need a new name.

Maybe "the teams that can't beat the SEC in football" league will work.


acc: eastern sort-seaside money chasing whores
big-potato: rust/snow belt money chasing whores
pac-potato: western money chasing whores
sec: sundress wearing money chasing whores
big1210: southcentral money chasing whores who do whatever texas says

though if the big10 can stay the "big10" with 14, i think the acc is just fine. americans may struggle with counting, but i promise you they absolutely cannot do geography.
 
2012-11-28 12:36:21 PM

Bendal: So much for the "Atlantic Coast" Conference, what with ND and Louisville now joining the league. At least BC and VT were in states with Atlantic coasts. So did Syracuse and Pitt, but with the latest two, they need a new name.

Maybe "the teams that can't beat the SEC in football" league will work.


Pennsylvania has a coast?
 
2012-11-28 12:37:16 PM

king_nacho: greenbowlpacker: The best thing about this is, Louisville sells beer at their home games!!! Road Trip!!

beer sales are based on conference rules. if the ACC doesn't allow alcohol sales, then UL will have to stop.


ACC don't care apparently.
 
2012-11-28 12:47:43 PM

lunchinlewis: Mr Guy: The long term projections assume that all TV money is driven by football. That's largely true, but the ACC's basketball product is almost as profitable as it's football product

Seems to me the ACC's basketball product consists mostly of the UNC-Duke super-hyped rivalry games. Maryland-Duke had a pretty good thing going to. Other than that, I'm scratching my head trying to think of much must-see ACC basketball. Even the tournament seems down, I bet the attendance numbers would probably reflect that over the past 10 years.

But having said all that, it still probably does closely follow ACC football. That's still not saying much.


Really? Right now 5 of the current or future ACC members are ranked in the top 25 (Duke, NC, NC State, Syracuse, and Louisville) and 3 more received votes (Pitt, Notre Dame, Florida State). I'm not sure your definition of must see basketball, but I'd argue that any match up with two top 25 teams attracts more media and fan attention than usual. So many teams that are or will be in the ACC are regulars in the the top 25 rankings.

Everyone's derping about the football angles, but really the ACC has transformed itself into a basketball super conference by taking away some of the Big East's best basketball programs and putting them against UNC and Duke.
 
2012-11-28 12:48:07 PM

Bendal: So much for the "Atlantic Coast" Conference, what with ND and Louisville now joining the league. At least BC and VT were in states with Atlantic coasts. So did Syracuse and Pitt, but with the latest two, they need a new name.

Maybe "the teams that can't beat the SEC in football" league will work.


When did Pennsylvania install an Atlantic coast?
 
2012-11-28 12:51:20 PM
The first thing conferences should do is remove any numbers in their title. Currently, the Big 10 has 12 members and the Big 12 has 10 members, and of course the actual numbers are always subject to change. The one conference properly branded for mass migrations in Conference USA, but currently all their schools are bounded by the Rio Grande River and the Mason-Dixon Line.
 
2012-11-28 12:51:29 PM

mkmcco03: Minarets: basemetal: I was hoping the Big XII would have gotten their heads out of their asses with the new leadership and snagged them first, but I see they are still bumbling around.

Notre Dame To the ACC
Florida State
Clemson
Georgia Tech
All three approved the exit fee suit against Maryland and with Louisville joining, no need to exit.
Louisville To the ACC
Cincinnati
Boise State
BYU
San Diego State
USF
Colorado State
New Mexico
Houston
UTSA
Tulsa
Louisiana
Troy

Options for Big XII expansion are really limited now.

Being a UofL fan I am glad we are now in the ACC over the BigXII for the simple fact of travel. See WVU for that problem.

The BigXII should now go after Boise State and BYU and leave the rest to hang


I could see them trying to get Cincinnati. I could also see them trying not to get another Texas school, so maybe Colorado State... or Boise State.
 
2012-11-28 12:51:35 PM

degenerate-afro: Louisville over UConn makes sense from the "we care about football more than basketball" stance, but I still think UConn would have been the better fit.


If you equate the ACC with the douchebags in Research Triangle, then, yes, UCONN is the better fit. If it'd been Duke, UNC and Wake's call, it would've been UCONN. Unfortunately for them, adding UCONN and turning their noses up at Louisville (like they did to WVU) probably would've resulted in the football schools bolting, which would've killed the conference.

After all, somebody has to actually pay to keep the lights on for the wine-and-cheese crowd in North Carolina. ESPN's not going to pay so people can watch Boston College play Syracuse, and even Swofford has admitted that basketball only accounts for about 20% of the revenues.

I still think the football schools will leave within the next year. Notre Dame's not joining as a full member, and FSU, GT and Clemson simply aren't going to make enough money to compete if they stay. But the Carolinians had to try to appease them, because they're essentially one more defection away from an avalanche.
 
2012-11-28 12:56:15 PM

bighairyguy: The first thing conferences should do is remove any numbers in their title. Currently, the Big 10 has 12 members and the Big 12 has 10 members, and of course the actual numbers are always subject to change. The one conference properly branded for mass migrations in Conference USA, but currently all their schools are bounded by the Rio Grande River and the Mason-Dixon Line.


Why not have the Big Ten change their name to the ICFR? Makes as much sense as their current name...
 
2012-11-28 12:57:00 PM

bsharitt: Bendal: So much for the "Atlantic Coast" Conference, what with ND and Louisville now joining the league. At least BC and VT were in states with Atlantic coasts. So did Syracuse and Pitt, but with the latest two, they need a new name.

Maybe "the teams that can't beat the SEC in football" league will work.

When did Pennsylvania install an Atlantic coast?


Philly has a sea port. Sort of. Almost.
 
2012-11-28 12:58:30 PM

bighairyguy: The first thing conferences should do is remove any numbers in their title. Currently, the Big 10 has 12 members and the Big 12 has 10 members, and of course the actual numbers are always subject to change. The one conference properly branded for mass migrations in Conference USA, but currently all their schools are bounded by the Rio Grande River and the Mason-Dixon Line.


Yeah, and I'd at least like to see the Big East stick to schools east of the continental divide. But that's just my east coast bias.
 
2012-11-28 01:31:51 PM
Apparently the SEC has been trying to get Duke and UNC for a while now
 
2012-11-28 01:53:02 PM

uncoveror: In the past, Louisville and Cincinnati always changed conferences at the same time, remaining intra-conference rivals. They jumped from The Metro, to Conference USA then to The Big East at the same time. Will that finally end here? I am not aware of a time when they were not in the same conference.


Cincinnati joined the Great Midwest Conference in the early 90's without UofL. That conference then merged with the Metro to form C-USA.
 
2012-11-28 01:53:49 PM

colonel0sanders: Apparently the SEC has been trying to get Duke and UNC for a while now


They'll never get them. Academic standards are too high for the SEC
 
2012-11-28 02:00:52 PM

Lost Thought 00: colonel0sanders: Apparently the SEC has been trying to get Duke and UNC for a while now

They'll never get them. Academic standards are too high for the SEC


Damn those low standards at Florida, Mississippi State, and Vanderbilt!
 
2012-11-28 02:02:21 PM
UCONN picked the wrong time for their basketball program to become a disgrace.
 
2012-11-28 02:03:35 PM

Gonz: Lost Thought 00: colonel0sanders: Apparently the SEC has been trying to get Duke and UNC for a while now

They'll never get them. Academic standards are too high for the SEC

Damn those low standards at Florida, Mississippi State, and Vanderbilt!


Of those, Vandy is the only one that comes close to ACC level academics
 
2012-11-28 02:10:11 PM
Apparently there will be on divisional realignment, so Louisville goes into MD's spot in the Atlantic Division. Games against FSU and Clemson every year.
 
2012-11-28 02:27:50 PM

Lost Thought 00: Gonz: Lost Thought 00: colonel0sanders: Apparently the SEC has been trying to get Duke and UNC for a while now

They'll never get them. Academic standards are too high for the SEC

Damn those low standards at Florida, Mississippi State, and Vanderbilt!

Of those, Vandy is the only one that comes close to ACC level academics


http://m.outkickthecoverage.com/us-news-rankings-of-top-six-football-c onferences.php

Sorry for not linking that, but I'm on my phone. Anyway, saying Florida's not close to ACC levels is like saying North Carolina's not a good academic fit for the Pac-12, because the top schools are ranked higher.
 
2012-11-28 02:32:58 PM

Lost Thought 00: Gonz: Lost Thought 00: colonel0sanders: Apparently the SEC has been trying to get Duke and UNC for a while now

They'll never get them. Academic standards are too high for the SEC

Damn those low standards at Florida, Mississippi State, and Vanderbilt!

Of those, Vandy is the only one that comes close to ACC level academics


Florida does too, let's not lie to ourselves. Florida wipes the floor with Clemson academically.
 
2012-11-28 02:38:49 PM

Lost Thought 00: Gonz: Lost Thought 00: colonel0sanders: Apparently the SEC has been trying to get Duke and UNC for a while now

They'll never get them. Academic standards are too high for the SEC

Damn those low standards at Florida, Mississippi State, and Vanderbilt!

Of those, Vandy is the only one that comes close to ACC level academics


"ACC level academics" may have taken a hit with the addition of louisville
 
2012-11-28 02:41:32 PM

colonel0sanders: "ACC level academics" may have taken a hit with the addition of louisville


Heh, NC State is probably feeling pretty good right now.
 
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