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(WorldNetDaily)   Single frame of Glenn Beck dunking Obama bobble-head in enormous jar of urine while standing in front of his chalkboard-full-o-crazy wonderfully illustrates Beck's current psychosis level... As for the art: Meh, derivative   (wnd.com) divider line 249
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2012-11-28 03:07:24 PM  

Ozymandius II: stewmadness: shastacola: stewmadness: He made his point.

I just wish he didn't have to stoop to the same level of the other side.

What point did he make?

Phony, hypocritical outrage.

Ayep, this thread is full of outrage, that's the ticket!

See?! See all the angry people?! DO YOU SEE THEM THEY ARE TOTALLY THERE!


You can't see them, they're hiding behind reverse vampires poised to crash the world's currency systems any moment. Buy goldline gold!!
 
2012-11-28 03:12:33 PM  
I wonder how his children feel about this.

Scott: "My daddy's a fireman and saves people from burning buildings"

Sylvie: "My mom's a nurse and she helps people that are sick."

Beck's kid: "My dad plays with pee on television"
 
2012-11-28 03:15:09 PM  

Dansker: skullkrusher: Dansker: skullkrusher: whistleridge: I get the point he thinks he's making, but does he get the point he's actually making? That it's him, not us, making the point that Obama = Jesus?

I think it was Michael D'Antuono who made that point

I think you missed the point of D'Antuono's "The Truth".
This is what he meant:
[img.photobucket.com image 600x364]

Obama is in 3 D?

Ha ha yeah, but no. I think it's that people see what they want to see. Like when you, out of the many possible interpretations of a painting, saw it as the work of a someone actually comparing Obama to Jesus Christ.


yeah I read a bit about the artist's intentions - he initially wanted it displayed in a mock voting booth so people could view it in private and come with their own conclusion + the symbolism of the whole thing. Pretty cool.
 
2012-11-28 03:16:49 PM  
Your Tea Party founder ladies and gentleman!
 
2012-11-28 03:18:43 PM  

mrshowrules: I wonder how his children feel about this.

Scott: "My daddy's a fireman and saves people from burning buildings"

Sylvie: "My mom's a nurse and she helps people that are sick."

Beck's kid: "My dad plays with pee on television"


depends on how old the kids are. 5th grade and lower, Beck's kid wins.
 
2012-11-28 03:19:56 PM  

skullkrusher: Pretty cool.


Indeed. And cool of you to acknowledge it.
Cool-cool-cool.
 
2012-11-28 03:22:24 PM  

theknuckler_33: Phoenix_M: sigdiamond2000: Has there been a cultural event in American history that has obsessed the right-wing more than "Piss Christ?"

Seriously, people. It was 25 f*cking years ago and you're still on about it? Is the guy who did it even alive anymore?

For God's sake, let it go.

The artist is still alive and was back in the news in the last couple of months because the pisschrist was back on display in some cities MOMA. Beck was also responding to Jammie Fox who called President Obama "Our Lord and Savior" the other night.
Becks planned worked he getting the at the attention he seeks which is why he makes about 6 million dollars a month and we don't.

Is it just me, or did it seem pretty obvious that Jamie Foxx was trolling conservatives when he said that? I was pretty sure I saw a smirk on his face as he was saying that.


Doesn't he always have that smirk on his face and where did he actually say this The Tonight Show/Conan? he's a comic so I assume he was joking around.
 
2012-11-28 03:25:01 PM  

borg: theknuckler_33: Phoenix_M: sigdiamond2000: Has there been a cultural event in American history that has obsessed the right-wing more than "Piss Christ?"

Seriously, people. It was 25 f*cking years ago and you're still on about it? Is the guy who did it even alive anymore?

For God's sake, let it go.

The artist is still alive and was back in the news in the last couple of months because the pisschrist was back on display in some cities MOMA. Beck was also responding to Jammie Fox who called President Obama "Our Lord and Savior" the other night.
Becks planned worked he getting the at the attention he seeks which is why he makes about 6 million dollars a month and we don't.

Is it just me, or did it seem pretty obvious that Jamie Foxx was trolling conservatives when he said that? I was pretty sure I saw a smirk on his face as he was saying that.

Doesn't he always have that smirk on his face and where did he actually say this The Tonight Show/Conan? he's a comic so I assume he was joking around.


I can positively say they do not get sarcasm or parody all that well. ;) so yeah they probably believed he was telling the truth, and smiling while doing so.
 
2012-11-28 03:25:05 PM  

skullkrusher: yeah I read a bit about the artist's intentions - he initially wanted it displayed in a mock voting booth so people could view it in private and come with their own conclusion + the symbolism of the whole thing. Pretty cool.


It's called "The Truth."

Obama stands in the middle, because that's were he is politically. But a black woman on the left, wearing blue glasses (an allusion to "blue states"), is smiling because liberals are tolerant of differing viewpoints. One man on the right is angry, because Republicans are always dicks to anyone not part of their group, and another one is confused because Republicans are stupid.

Not to hard to decipher really.

/ttj
 
2012-11-28 03:26:45 PM  
were - where.

Stupid phonetic spell cheker.
 
2012-11-28 03:33:31 PM  

impaler:
It's called "The Truth."


Actually, that one is called "What I Meant Was".
 
2012-11-28 03:38:43 PM  

Dansker: skullkrusher: Pretty cool.

Indeed. And cool of you to acknowledge it.
Cool-cool-cool.


Gwen Stefani?

/great song
//secure enough to admit it
///Slayer is still better
 
2012-11-28 03:39:23 PM  

impaler: skullkrusher: yeah I read a bit about the artist's intentions - he initially wanted it displayed in a mock voting booth so people could view it in private and come with their own conclusion + the symbolism of the whole thing. Pretty cool.

It's called "The Truth."

Obama stands in the middle, because that's were he is politically. But a black woman on the left, wearing blue glasses (an allusion to "blue states"), is smiling because liberals are tolerant of differing viewpoints. One man on the right is angry, because Republicans are always dicks to anyone not part of their group, and another one is confused because Republicans are stupid.

Not to hard to decipher really.

/ttj


an entirely different piece than we're discussing.
 
2012-11-28 03:46:19 PM  

skullkrusher: Dansker: skullkrusher: Pretty cool.

Indeed. And cool of you to acknowledge it.
Cool-cool-cool.

Gwen Stefani?


Abed!

/great song
//secure enough to admit it


I'm sure you'll live to regret that, but I'm not here to judge.

///Slayer is still better

Man, talk about statements being open to interpretation.
 
2012-11-28 03:50:46 PM  

Headso: He of course realizes this will be controversial and that many will find his use of the Obama figurine to be disrespectful.

I don't think anyone would find it controversial if you put a bobblehead in piss. Typical example where conservatives don't understand context.


Well, I actually found it fairly childishly disrespectful, since his intended meaning was clear, but then again I also found the Piss Christ childishly disrespectful. Beck gets a slightly higher score for 'childish' thanks to the bobblehead, but they're both idiots.

/Artistic expression usually involves actual thought processes.
 
2012-11-28 03:59:32 PM  
Well, he has to gear the program to the viewers.
 
2012-11-28 04:03:40 PM  

PsiChick: I also found the Piss Christ childishly disrespectful.,


It was a cheap, poorly made plastic crucifix, so I've always seen it as a comment on the crass commercialization and cheapening of Jesus' message of universal love. But I could be wrong.
To whom did you find it disrespectful?

/Artistic expression usually involves actual thought processes.

So does interpretation.
 
2012-11-28 04:04:48 PM  
Well, this is the guy who said that W. Cleon Skousen was much smarter than him, so I can't say I'm surprised.
 
2012-11-28 04:08:48 PM  

Dansker: PsiChick: I also found the Piss Christ childishly disrespectful.,

It was a cheap, poorly made plastic crucifix, so I've always seen it as a comment on the crass commercialization and cheapening of Jesus' message of universal love. But I could be wrong.
To whom did you find it disrespectful?

/Artistic expression usually involves actual thought processes.

So does interpretation.


I found it childishly disrespectful because, whether or not it was symbolic, it was a highly important symbol to a major religion. Unless you have mental problems, it's practically impossible to not realize exactly how that's going to be taken, and therefore it's pretty likely that the intended message had nothing to do with the plastic of the cross.

People are dicks sometimes. Just because you slap the art label on it doesn't mean the artist wasn't being a dick too.
 
2012-11-28 04:09:50 PM  

stewmadness: shastacola: stewmadness: He made his point.

I just wish he didn't have to stoop to the same level of the other side.

What point did he make?

Phony, hypocritical outrage.


What time are all the outraged people supposed to get here? I have plans later.
 
2012-11-28 04:10:40 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Seriously, people. It was 25 f*cking years ago and you're still on about it? Is the guy who did it even alive anymore? For God's sake, let it go.


Don't forget, the GOP still rationalises their constant voter suppression efforts by saying "Well, dead people vote for Democrats, therefore both sides are clearly bad and furthermore comma."

The last time that actually happened? 1960. Beck wasn't even born yet.

By that standard, this is a step up. :P
 
2012-11-28 04:11:35 PM  
Now that's art I can get behind!
 
2012-11-28 04:22:53 PM  
What Glen Beck's Show Would Have Looked Like if Romney had Won

This isn't satire, it is on GB's own website.
 
2012-11-28 04:22:55 PM  

PsiChick: I found it childishly disrespectful because, whether or not it was symbolic, it was a highly important symbol to a major religion.


Maybe it shouldn't be, but that's a different discussion.

Unless you have mental problems, it's practically impossible to not realize exactly how that's going to be taken, and therefore it's pretty likely that the intended message had nothing to do with the plastic of the cross.

Easily offended Bible thumpers don't tend to show much interest in modern art photography, so it's unlikely they were the intended audience. Artist have produced controversial portrayals of Christ both before and after Seranno without causing worldwide condemnation and still inspiring anger a quarter of a century later. It was practically impossible to realize it would be taken like that.
 
2012-11-28 04:25:00 PM  
The survey at the end of the article is scientific proof.
 
2012-11-28 04:25:21 PM  

Bf+: InmanRoshi: I can't even pay attention to the Piss Christ Obama, because I'm too distracted by the flow chart of crazy on that blackboard. It brings me back to college, when I had a kid in my dorm hall who was beginning to suffer from the effects of schizophrenia and he drew on his dorm room wall exactly like that. Eventually his parents had to come pick him up and institutionalize him.

No kidding. I so want a hi-res version of that black board, so i can figure out where the reverse-vampires come into play.
We're through the looking piss glass here, people.
The man is clearly insane and I don't see his parents coming to institutionalize him.


The board got my attention, too. I think you could diagnose someone just based on that chalkboard of crazy.
 
2012-11-28 04:28:06 PM  
I heard that the resulting riot death toll is up to . . . . . . 0
 
2012-11-28 04:37:59 PM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: [www.wnd.com image 620x306]

Okay, seriously, wtf is going on with that blackboard behind him? How does that not just scream crazy to anyone who happens to look at it? Seriously, I had a friend who went to art school; dipping bobbleheads in urine doesn't even move the needle but that blackboard is creepy.


He's like John Nash from, "A Beautiful Mind." The connections are all there man, you just don't see it because you don't want to.
 
2012-11-28 04:39:51 PM  

Dansker: PsiChick: I found it childishly disrespectful because, whether or not it was symbolic, it was a highly important symbol to a major religion.

Maybe it shouldn't be, but that's a different discussion.

Unless you have mental problems, it's practically impossible to not realize exactly how that's going to be taken, and therefore it's pretty likely that the intended message had nothing to do with the plastic of the cross.

Easily offended Bible thumpers don't tend to show much interest in modern art photography, so it's unlikely they were the intended audience. Artist have produced controversial portrayals of Christ both before and after Seranno without causing worldwide condemnation and still inspiring anger a quarter of a century later. It was practically impossible to realize it would be taken like that.


I don't know, maybe it was different back then, but nowadays even as a nobody I'd think twice before doing shiat like that because I'd fully expect some idiot to pick up on it and death threats to start pouring in.

But maybe it really was different back then, in which case...well, it's still childish with that meaning, but it would depend more on the artist and his\her background.
 
2012-11-28 04:48:34 PM  
Seriously, someone find a high-def version of that chalkboard!
 
2012-11-28 04:56:31 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Does it shock anyone that Glen Beck plays with his own urine?


Maybe it's a trophy from when he raped and murdered a girl in 1990.
 
2012-11-28 04:57:39 PM  
Wow... okay... late to the picnic...
 
2012-11-28 04:59:40 PM  
I know he's not a congressman and all, but I'm calling him Glenn Beck (R-Kelly) from now on.
 
2012-11-28 05:10:00 PM  

Blathering Idjut:
www.wnd.com
[www.wnd.com image 620x306]

What's with the tongue hanging out?


So he can taste it?

Philip Francis Queeg: His urine is tinged sort of green.


It's lime flavored.

"He put the lime in the pee, he nuts, he drank 'em both up."
 
2012-11-28 05:10:12 PM  
Big difference between "OMG U CAN'T DO THAT TO OBAMA/JESUS!!"

and

"Hmmph. What a dumbass."
 
2012-11-28 05:10:29 PM  

impaler: Seriously, someone find a high-def version of that chalkboard!


Well, he does have chalkboards full of questions: Link
 
2012-11-28 05:19:47 PM  

featurecreep: mrshowrules: I wonder how his children feel about this.

Scott: "My daddy's a fireman and saves people from burning buildings"

Sylvie: "My mom's a nurse and she helps people that are sick."

Beck's kid: "My dad plays with pee on television"

depends on how old the kids are. 5th grade and lower, Beck's kid wins.


5th grade and above, Beck's kid wins, because his dad is on TV.
 
2012-11-28 05:26:45 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: [www.wnd.com image 620x306]

His urine is tinged sort of green. He might want to have a doctor look into that.


inc csb

My urine would almost always be that exact same shade, give or take, when I would urinate approximately 1-2 hours after ingestion of THC.

/irrelevant
//maybe Glenn Beck smokes
///nah no way
 
2012-11-28 05:40:01 PM  
You know it's true:

i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-28 05:42:08 PM  
I think the best part about this whole fiasco is the fact that Glenn Beck put it up for auction on EBay for charity. The entire premise of the Obama in Pee Pee is, as was said, to "point out the hypocrisy" of liberals, who he assumes were going to cry like babies because "Dear Leader" was placed in a jar of piss, much like how Christians reacted to Piss Christ (and those durn durty libbies told them to get over it.)

Cue thirty minutes later-- EBay removed the object from sales because the EBay policy states body fluids cannot be sold.

Guess what? Glenn Beck and his ilk are now throwing a screaming shiatfest because they're offended that it was taken down. No, really, they are horrified that EBay wouldn't make an exception in their policy to get back at Fartbongo. Now, they're crying like babies because EBay didn't treat them like special children.

If this isn't the most deliciously ironic backfiring, I'm not sure what is.
 
2012-11-28 05:47:56 PM  

PsiChick: Dansker: PsiChick: I also found the Piss Christ childishly disrespectful.,

It was a cheap, poorly made plastic crucifix, so I've always seen it as a comment on the crass commercialization and cheapening of Jesus' message of universal love. But I could be wrong.
To whom did you find it disrespectful?

/Artistic expression usually involves actual thought processes.

So does interpretation.

I found it childishly disrespectful because, whether or not it was symbolic, it was a highly important symbol to a major religion. Unless you have mental problems, it's practically impossible to not realize exactly how that's going to be taken, and therefore it's pretty likely that the intended message had nothing to do with the plastic of the cross.

People are dicks sometimes. Just because you slap the art label on it doesn't mean the artist wasn't being a dick too.


His point was to make you think about how televangeIists treat Christianity. I love how people can read books about all kinds of things and not think the writers mean it all literally, or see films and realize they are watching a story...but put an artist's image or a sculpture--one that is not flowers or puppies or "nice"--out there and the ignorant, unreflective knee-jerk reactions start flying immediately. OMG! Serrano hates Jesus and wants to drown him in piss! That artist is horrible for believing this!

/something about judging books by their covers
 
2012-11-28 05:52:51 PM  

Gato Blanco: If this isn't the most deliciously ironic backfiring, I'm not sure what is.


$11,000 in an hour for a jar of urine means he has an audience with more money than brains.
 
2012-11-28 05:53:19 PM  

stewmadness: He made his point.

I just wish he didn't have to stoop to the same level of the other side.


You mean "those people"?
 
2012-11-28 05:55:54 PM  

seelorq: PsiChick: Dansker: PsiChick: (edited for length)
His point was to make you think about how televangeIists treat Christianity. I love how people can read books about all kinds of things and not think the writers mean it all literally, or see films and realize they are watching a story...but put an artist's image or a sculpture--one that is not flowers or puppies or "nice"--out there and the ignorant, unreflective knee-jerk reactions start flying immediately. OMG! Serrano hates Jesus and wants to drown him in piss! That artist is horrible for believing this!

/something about judging books by their covers


Oh, trust me, people are just the same about books and movies. But like I said, if the times were the same, I highly doubt that was the point.

/But it is interpretation, and at this stage we're arguing about relative interpretation, not objective.
 
2012-11-28 06:13:46 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: [www.wnd.com image 620x306]

His urine is tinged sort of green. He might want to have a doctor look into that.


Green urine is usually caused by what a patient injested. Food coloring, black licorice, and asparagus are the usual culprits, as well as some medications.

/yay, google.
 
2012-11-28 06:22:12 PM  

cretinbob: stewmadness: He made his point.

I just wish he didn't have to stoop to the same level of the other side.

You mean "those people"?


You know. The poors. The urbans.
 
2012-11-28 06:26:41 PM  

PsiChick:
But maybe it really was different back then, in which case...well, it's still childish with that meaning, but it would depend more on the artist and his\her background.


The late '80s were kinda weird, yeah, but all I really know about the artist is that he was a photographer, so maybe he was just facinated by the effect of light through different coloured fluids.
Personally I've never been entirely convinced it was actually urine, but you have to admit that the colours are beautiful. It's a striking image even without the title.
 
2012-11-28 06:29:27 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: [www.wnd.com image 620x306]

His urine is tinged sort of green. He might want to have a doctor look into that.


It's got electrolytes. It's what Republicans crave.
 
2012-11-28 06:36:54 PM  

FloydA: Philip Francis Queeg: [www.wnd.com image 620x306]

His urine is tinged sort of green. He might want to have a doctor look into that.

It's got electrolytes. It's what Republicans crave.


HAHA. Thank you for making me choke on my rice.
 
2012-11-28 06:39:09 PM  

Dansker: PsiChick:
But maybe it really was different back then, in which case...well, it's still childish with that meaning, but it would depend more on the artist and his\her background.

The late '80s were kinda weird, yeah, but all I really know about the artist is that he was a photographer, so maybe he was just facinated by the effect of light through different coloured fluids.
Personally I've never been entirely convinced it was actually urine, but you have to admit that the colours are beautiful. It's a striking image even without the title.


It actually really is, and if it were tinged blue I think it would be really beautiful. And, y'know, not urine, since someone with blue urine needs to see a doctor instead of making art.
 
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