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(New York Daily News)   On Monday, for the first time since the NYPD can remember, nobody was shot, stabbed or slashed in the city; however, 493,788 people were called "ya hump", "stunod" and/or "putz"   (nydailynews.com) divider line 77
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2012-11-28 10:23:45 AM

sprawl15: by that definition, people are criminals at the point of breaking a law, rather than point of conviction

seems pretty contrary to the basis of law


The act of breaking the law is a separate event from the finding of a jury as to whether or not the act took place.

You can get away with a murder, but you still did commit a murder and are therefore a criminal, even if nobody can prove it or even if nobody knows. It happened.
 
2012-11-28 10:27:32 AM
Stunod? I'm calling a lot of people "bozo" now, it's my new thing.
 
2012-11-28 10:42:08 AM
Ah, you're all a bunch of quernitpers. I don't give a flying shrumpfoozle what you huckadacks call each other. Shlangwuff you all.
 
2012-11-28 10:49:53 AM
And I thought it was big news when our city of a half million had no DUIs for one whole day. The police were also shocked.
 
2012-11-28 11:01:12 AM
I'm 90% sure the gun FTA (H&K P7?) is not a "police gun".
 
2012-11-28 11:11:03 AM

freewill: You can get away with a murder, but you still did commit a murder and are therefore a criminal, even if nobody can prove it or even if nobody knows.


no that's pretty much the exact opposite of how things work

unless you're trying to imply that crime itself is a violating of basic social construct rather than simply a state under a legal system
 
2012-11-28 11:33:42 AM
 
2012-11-28 11:35:55 AM
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HEY! That's MISTER stunod to you, ya' hump!

/putz!
 
2012-11-28 11:37:10 AM

freewill: sprawl15: by that definition, people are criminals at the point of breaking a law, rather than point of conviction

seems pretty contrary to the basis of law

The act of breaking the law is a separate event from the finding of a jury as to whether or not the act took place.

You can get away with a murder, but you still did commit a murder and are therefore a criminal murderer, even if nobody can prove it or even if nobody knows. It happened.

 
2012-11-28 11:43:51 AM
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2012-11-28 11:48:17 AM

Sir Digby: Can someone spell out how to pronounce "Stunod" so I can start using it. I always love a new word for stupid people.


Stew-nahd. It's my favorite insult for telling a nurse a patient is being a dipshiat.
 
2012-11-28 11:51:40 AM
Looks like No Murder Mondays is catching on.
 
2012-11-28 11:52:36 AM

MayContainHorseGluten: Looks like No Murder Mondays is catching on.


i was into not killing people before it was cool
 
2012-11-28 11:54:50 AM

sprawl15: no that's pretty much the exact opposite of how things work


That's exactly how things work. A jury's failure to convict you of shoplifting means that the state will not punish you for the crime and, for many purposes, you will be treated as if you did not commit it. This outcome of this process is independent of the fact of whether or not you actually intentionally walked out of the store with items you did not pay for. You took the stuff. Being found not guilty does not mean that you did not take it or that your taking of it was not a crime, it just means that they can't prove you took it to the satisfaction of the established process. If there were witnesses, they will still know what you did and treat you accordingly. The truth is stable throughout the process, even if the process never uncovers it.

Arguing that the word is defined otherwise strikes me as inherently nonsensical. Virtually everyone who speaks English as a native language would agree that there are people in prison who were found to commit crimes yet did not commit them and people who committed crimes but were not found guilty of them. There's usually a causal relationship between committing a crime and being found guilty of a crime, but they are simply not the same event, and just because the latter never occurs does not mean that the former did not.
 
2012-11-28 12:06:17 PM

Sword and Shield: Sir Digby: Can someone spell out how to pronounce "Stunod" so I can start using it. I always love a new word for stupid people.

Stew-nahd. It's my favorite insult for telling a nurse a patient is being a dipshiat.


For the more academically inclined Farker:

From Italian stonato ("out of tune"). In Sicilian dialect, the word is stunatu. It is stunat' in Neapolitan. In both of these dialects, the word has a similar meaning to this one.

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2012-11-28 12:20:29 PM

freewill: A jury's failure to convict you of shoplifting means that the state will not punish you for the crime and, for many purposes, you will be treated as if you did not commit it. This outcome of this process is independent of the fact of whether or not you actually intentionally walked out of the store with items you did not pay for. You took the stuff. Being found not guilty does not mean that you did not take it or that your taking of it was not a crime, it just means that they can't prove you took it to the satisfaction of the established process. If there were witnesses, they will still know what you did and treat you accordingly. The truth is stable throughout the process, even if the process never uncovers it.


you could have saved yourself the pixels and just said 'yes i am' to 'trying to imply that crime itself is a violating of basic social construct rather than simply a state under a legal system'
 
2012-11-28 12:35:35 PM

Sword and Shield: Sir Digby: Can someone spell out how to pronounce "Stunod" so I can start using it. I always love a new word for stupid people.

Stew-nahd. It's my favorite insult for telling a nurse a patient is being a dipshiat.


Hey thanks. I'm a nurse, so I'll start using it in the same fashion.

But how'd you know I'm a nurse? Are you a wizard?
 
2012-11-28 12:37:59 PM

Sword and Shield: Sir Digby: Can someone spell out how to pronounce "Stunod" so I can start using it. I always love a new word for stupid people.

Stew-nahd. It's my favorite insult for telling a nurse a patient is being a dipshiat.



emphasis is on the second syllable.
 
2012-11-28 12:50:31 PM
So what did the cops do all day Monday? Ate stunod.
 
2012-11-28 02:35:30 PM
They just haven't found the bodies yet.
 
2012-11-28 02:51:13 PM
I don't want to shoot anyone, stab anyone, or slash anyone as a career. I don't want to shoot anyone stabbed or slashed, or stab anyone shot or slashed, or slash anyone shot, stabbed, or slashed, or rob anyone shot, stabbed, or slashed. You know, as a career, I don't want to do that.
 
2012-11-28 03:05:34 PM

DubtodaIll: Must be something new in the water.


"Sure as I know anything I know this: they will try again. Maybe on another world, maybe on this very ground swept clean. A year from now, ten, they'll swing back to the belief that they can make people...better. And I do not hold to that."

//serenity
 
2012-11-28 03:08:49 PM

Nurglitch

2012-11-28 09:01:43 AM

How does it compare to Beijing?


Maybe you can tell us? Who knows. It's a totalitarian govt that is the only one reporting the stats. I'm sure they would be happy to tell you its the safest place on earth and people who do commit crimes get caught in worst case scenario a few hours later.

I will say that almost all East Asian cities are safer than US cities due to cultural factors and lack of firearms. OTOH, there are plenty of organized crime and gangs and people are people so "crimes of passion"are just a normal thing no matter what your race.
 
2012-11-28 03:21:24 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this Monday a thing called "Cyber Monday"?

It's pretty hard to stab, shoot or slash somebody while you're on eBay.

The "Black Friday" and "Cyber Monday" sales I've seen in my email inbox all last a week. We have reached the Shopping Singularity--Black Friday and Cyber Monday now overlap more than the football season and the hockey season. They're longer than most people's Christmas vacation.
 
2012-11-28 07:05:07 PM

mbillips: GORDON: Prisons are packed to the gills... and crime is down... hmmmm....

There's GOT to be a connection in there, somewhere.

There is. It's not all of it, more/more effective policing has at least as much effect, along with low unemployment and other avenues of legal opportunity.

Basically, you need bad people to think they'll get caught and punished to prevent them from doing bad things. You can punish the living crap out of the ones you catch, but if the chance of getting caught is low, punishment alone won't affect behavior that much.


Low unemployment?
 
2012-11-28 07:19:35 PM

Current Resident: I don't want to shoot anyone, stab anyone, or slash anyone as a career. I don't want to shoot anyone stabbed or slashed, or stab anyone shot or slashed, or slash anyone shot, stabbed, or slashed, or rob anyone shot, stabbed, or slashed. You know, as a career, I don't want to do that.


What about as a hobby?
 
2012-11-28 07:40:08 PM

offmymeds: Sword and Shield: Sir Digby: Can someone spell out how to pronounce "Stunod" so I can start using it. I always love a new word for stupid people.

Stew-nahd. It's my favorite insult for telling a nurse a patient is being a dipshiat.

For the more academically inclined Farker:

From Italian stonato ("out of tune"). In Sicilian dialect, the word is stunatu. It is stunat' in Neapolitan. In both of these dialects, the word has a similar meaning to this one.

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In Toronto I grew up hearing "stonata" a lot (final vowel not always pronounced). Was very confused by the "stu-nod"
 
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