hlehmann: oukewldave: Looks like the old pictures are from winter and new ones are from spring or summer.Glaciers don't disappear in the summer only to come back again in the winter. That's why their glaciers and not just snow banks. They form over thousands of years when more snow falls during the winter than melts in the summer. These days it's the other way around.
0z79: Bontesla: SwiftFox: One thing certain, any prediction of climate change will be way the fark off, as will the effects.Might mean famine or plenty. California becoming dependent on an annual monsoon and nearby warming depleting ocean life near there, or continued upwelling of cold nutrients into now warmer differential and a flood of life. Literal flooding, or drastic drops in sea level caused by drastic increases in Antarctic and Greenland snow accumulation, the former largely in desert conditions now. The Sahara might become a prairie again.Get ready to adapt. People are supposed to be able to do that.Except that's not true. Humans adapt rather poorly and we're very close to our limit (look up deaths during heat waves and cold spells ). Scientists say we're very near our "boiling point" and so are many things we eat for food.I hate to sound heartless, but most of those people who died in dought were too dumb to live; otherwise, they were elderly or otherwise infirm.Stuff like buying a pop instead of water or gatorade, not stopping to rest when overheating, not slowing down to account for the heat, etc.I think we'll adapt just fine, after a little turbulence. I think the greater danger would be your fellow panic-stricken, overreacting, "seriously-it's-gonna-be-okay-if-you-just-chill-the-FARK-out!!" human being.
snocone: starsrift: snocone: You would be quite wrong, but then, we knew that.It's called soil, oh purveyor of the royal "we". Not only does there have to BE soil, but soil with certain properties and biologies extant. Receding glaciers do not farmland make, until much more time has passed.Geography is not a "consensual" science, so I see your problem.Nobody tole' ya what to believe about that yet?
snocone: You would be quite wrong, but then, we knew that.
chuckufarlie: JackieRabbit: hlehmann: oukewldave: Looks like the old pictures are from winter and new ones are from spring or summer.Glaciers don't disappear in the summer only to come back again in the winter. That's why their glaciers and not just snow banks. They form over thousands of years when more snow falls during the winter than melts in the summer. These days it's the other way around.Good answer. Is it any wonder that the uneducated cannot wrap a thought around something as complex as global warming? It's easier to deny the existence of what one doesn't understand than to learn about it. Nicolaus Copernicus was considered an insane moron by many, in his day. Things haven't changed that much in the intervening 470 years.Let's see. You have a theory supported by faulty data that is run through a bad model and you think that you have something solid? You really should not make snarky remarks about the uneducated. They will come back to haunt you.
bluefoxicy: Awe-inspiring: Frozen wastelandi.dailymail.co.ukShrunken: Blossoming life, green growth.
Deacon Blue: Global warming is going to be great. Around 40% of the world's population lives in low-lying costal regions. When the sea level rises and floods them out, where are they going to go? Why, they'll be crowding the rest of us. Initial conflicts will quickly morph into a global war between real people and the displaced. Civilization will crumble. It'll be like Mad Max. God I can't wait. Gotta stock up on weapons, though. AR's, AK's, sniper rifles (including both a .50 and a 20mm), pistols of every variety, compound bows and crossbows for when ammunition starts running low, and by God some close in weapons such as Katanas, tomahawks, Kukri knives.../excuse me, I have to go masturbate
dready zim: Allegorical local nimby stuff
Rik01: When my land flooded for the first time in 50 years during a hurricane, I noticed it was due to my area being massively developed, new zoning laws requiring houses to be built on filled in lots, making my old home the lowest spot on the block. The now paved road replaced the old dirt one, which was level with my land. Now, it's 6 inches higher and the old swale ditches used for drainage have been closed off.
Rik01: Then, the huge swarms of lightening bugs that used to appear during summer twilight vanished along with the massive swarms of the rainbow hued, comical and amazing Dragonflies, ranging from small to huge went away.Along with the majority of the song birds.Rats, however, remained and thrived.Rich farmland, worked for generations abruptly became condominiums. Ground water levels fell so dramatically from so many wells being sunk in a small area that eventually we had to sink them deeper and deeper, and finally have to hook up to the city water system.
Rik01: The once pristine and clean lagoon is off limits to shell fishing several times a year due to human fecal bacteria pollution, but commercial crabbers and harvesters have depleted the supply drastically anyhow.
Rik01: I watched a major highway into my city go from two lane to 4 -- then to 6 and now it's being redeveloped for 8.Costs have risen hugely. The prolific medical care the taxes from so much development has given us is now out of reach financially for a whole lot of folks. Property taxes have soared. More money is needed to keep up the roads and bridges which now have to tolerate 4 times the traffic they were designed for. Money is needed to clean up the increasing mess from the booming population.As more folks pour in and more development is done, the state climate degrades. Hundreds of thousands of new roofs reflect the suns heat back into the atmosphere, thousands of acres of water replenishing wild woods get paved over and thousands of air conditioners pump billions of BTU's of waste heat in to the wind.
Rik01: If not real, then where did my winter go? What happened to the huge, seemingly endless schools of fish in the lagoon? Why are there more hurricanes than before?I also want my starry night skies back along with the lightening bugs.
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