President Merkin Muffley: MrEricSir: President Merkin Muffley: Ya, in Canada.Don't bother trying this in the states, thanks, ATF.I wonder if you could have a co-op of "nanobrewers" in the US? I'd think you could still brew independently but deal with certifications, renting space, distribution, sales, and other non-fun aspects as a collective.That's a great idea. It can slim down the start up cost but it won't touch the taxes. You don't pay taxes on sales of beer, you pay taxes when you transfer a barrel off site.It's even worse for distilleries. My dream is to start a craft bourbon distillery. You pay taxes on distilled liquor before you've distilled it.As I said, fark the ATF.
LonghornRob: I don't care what the brewer looks like as long as the beer is delicious.
President Merkin Muffley: Ya, in Canada.Don't bother trying this in the states, thanks, ATF.
rka: Here's a list of current/upcoming nanoshttp://hessbrewing.blogspot.com/2009/11/nanobreweries-in-usa.html
rka: President Merkin Muffley: Ya, in Canada.Don't bother trying this in the states, thanks, ATF.What are you talking about?One of the most famous breweries in the United States, Dogfish Head, started as a 10 gallon nanobrewery.Here's a list of current/upcoming nanoshttp://hessbrewing.blogspot.com/2009/11/nanobreweries-in-usa.html
TwistedFark: One of the things that really gets me since I've moved to Australia is that despite the reputation the country has of being filled with total piss heads, it's incredibly difficult and expensive to get the proper licenses needed to serve or sell beer.The stupid thing is that I actually have the skill and the finances to bankroll it, but I just don't have the bloody patience to jump through all the hoops necessary to commercially sell my brew. I'm actually fairly certain that part of the reason why everything is set up the way it is the same reason why many other industries have onerous licensing requirements - to keep new people out of markets and to protect established industries.
Kwai Lo: There are brew pubs in Ontario, but no nano-breweries, due to the cost of doing business with the AGO.
Saints_Gambit: The nanobrewing thing is an interesting development, at least in Toronto. In order for it to continue to work, the people doing it basically have to accept that they're never going to make any real money at it. The level of dedication that you need in order to keep up that level of effort without the quality going downhill quickly is going to be problematic. I know Brad from Get Well a little and he seems like he'll be fine, but at some point a talented brewer is going to want a larger system.
Pick: I can do 11 gallons at a time. Am I a nano, pico or femto?
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