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2012-11-27 05:37:37 PM
I'm not a Smith fan. Sure, give him his due, but all I remember is FG after FG after FG after FG. He doesn't take chances, he can't throw on the run as well as Kaepernick and when he gets pressured, the play is usually over.

He had his chances. Many of them.

The team rallied around Smith because they didn't have a choice. I would too; he's the damn QB. What are you supposed to do?

Kaepernick is far from perfect, he did get rattled due to crowd noise. But he's as good as Smith RIGHT NOW. As long as he gets better, there is no controversy.
 
2012-11-27 05:56:36 PM

nvmac: Sure, give him his due, but all I remember is FG after FG after FG after FG


In the 2 and less-than-a-half games before he was injured, Smith was 39/50 for 5 TDs and 1 INT. He proved in last year's divisional playoff that he can play big in big games. Kaepernick has less than 100 passes as an NFL QB, and his big game was against an opponent that has proven to be 100% a different team without its own starting QB. It seems that a playoff-bound team should be risk-averse in making this kind of move.
 
2012-11-27 06:03:11 PM
I wonder how many coaches wish they had a problem like this?
 
2012-11-27 06:04:09 PM

kronicfeld: It seems that a playoff-bound team should be risk-averse in making this kind of move.


Right.

nvmac: As long as he gets better, there is no controversy.


This is typical- the backup quarterback is the most popular guy in town.
 
2012-11-27 06:31:24 PM

kronicfeld: Kaepernick has less than 100 passes as an NFL QB, and his big game was against an opponent that has proven to be 100% a different team without its own starting QB.


I was under the impression that Jay Cutler only played on offense for the Bears. What position does he play on defense? Because I'm not understanding how Cutler's presence would've enabled the Bears' secondary to avoid repeatedly getting lit up like a Christmas tree on medium-to-long passes. Or enabled the Bears' defensive line and/or linebackers to record at least one sack against Kaepernick in that game. Or would have assisted the Bears' defense in forcing at least one turnover.

Though I will admit that the score likely would not have been 32-7 if Cutler had started. For one thing, he probably wouldn't have given up that safety in the end zone, so the Niners probably would've only scored 30 points. I'm thinking that with Cutler in the game, the final would've been more like 30-10 or 30-13. And given the way the Bears' offensive line looked more like turnstiles rather than blockers when it came to stopping the Niners' pass rush, I don't think the Bears would've won that game with Jesus H. Christ himself back there taking the snaps for them.
 
2012-11-27 06:48:13 PM

Cyberluddite: I was under the impression that Jay Cutler only played on offense for the Bears. What position does he play on defense? Because I'm not understanding how Cutler's presence would've enabled the Bears' secondary to avoid repeatedly getting lit up like a Christmas tree on medium-to-long passes. Or enabled the Bears' defensive line and/or linebackers to record at least one sack against Kaepernick in that game. Or would have assisted the Bears' defense in forcing at least one turnover.

Though I will admit that the score likely would not have been 32-7 if Cutler had started. For one thing, he probably wouldn't have given up that safety in the end zone, so the Niners probably would've only scored 30 points. I'm thinking that with Cutler in the game, the final would've been more like 30-10 or 30-13. And given the way the Bears' offensive line looked more like turnstiles rather than blockers when it came to stopping the Niners' pass rush, I don't think the Bears would've won that game with Jesus H. Christ himself back there taking the snaps for them.



Offense and defense are related: field possessions, defensive fatigue, number of drives available to opponents, etc. The Bears had three (3) possessions that lasted more than three plays. They had six (6) possessions in which they netted negative yards. Of their other three possessions, they scored on one and went less than 30 yards on the other two. San Francisco's average starting position was its own 35. If you don't think Chicago's offensive shiattery without Cutler didn't impact Chicago's defense and San Francisco's offensive opportunities, you're nuts.
 
2012-11-27 07:07:07 PM

kronicfeld: If you don't think Chicago's offensive shiattery without Cutler didn't impact Chicago's defense and San Francisco's offensive opportunities, you're nuts.


Yes, the Bears' offense looked so thoroughly inept and got their asses kicked so hard that, even as a 49ers fan, I actually kinda began to feel sorry for them--it was so bad that the game wasn't even as close as the final score would indicate. And not that Cutler often sets the world on fire as a QB when he's in there--the Bears tend to live or die on defense, not offense--but I agree that the Niners most likely would've started most drives with worse field position if Cutler had QBed, and as a result probably would've scored fewer points. But that doesn't change the fact that the Bears' defense was so thoroughly biatchslapped by Kaepernick (and his receivers, his backs, and his O-line) that a better offensive performance by the Bears couldn't have possibly affected the final outcome enough to have mattered all that much. Yes, it almost certainly wouldn't have been as lopsided a result, but Kaepernick was on fire and he would've looked very good--though likely not as good--if it had been a more competitive game.
 
2012-11-27 07:17:27 PM

kronicfeld: nvmac: Sure, give him his due, but all I remember is FG after FG after FG after FG

In the 2 and less-than-a-half games before he was injured, Smith was 39/50 for 5 TDs and 1 INT. He proved in last year's divisional playoff that he can play big in big games. Kaepernick has less than 100 passes as an NFL QB, and his big game was against an opponent that has proven to be 100% a different team without its own starting QB. It seems that a playoff-bound team should be risk-averse in making this kind of move.


I agree with you!
 
2012-11-27 07:26:42 PM
Its hard to make a decision when all of your Options suck.
 
2012-11-27 07:31:30 PM

kronicfeld: In the 2 and less-than-a-half games before he was injured, Smith was 39/50 for 5 TDs and 1 INT.


1.5 games of which were against two crappy teams, and one game in SF against a team that plays really poorly on the road. Let's not forget that in the previous game, against a pretty good team in which the Niners absolutely got their asses handed to them, Smith went 19-for-30 with 0 TDs and 3 INTs for a jaw-dropping 43.1 QB rating, which sort of skews the numbers down a bit.

It seems that a playoff-bound team should be risk-averse in making this kind of move.

I do agree with this, and having said all of the above, I'm not entirely convinced it should be Kaepernick, rather than Smith, who starts the next game. Smith has been acceptably good this season--at times very good--and it's not like he deserves to be benched based on his own performance. Yes, I think Kaepernick may ultimately have what it takes to be the 49ers' starting QB for the next few years, but I can see the wisdom of sticking with a known quantity like Smith--and one that has been a good teammate who has responded appropriately when needed--until and unless he seems unable to do the job effectively. But if asked what I would like to see happen, I guess I'd have to say I'd rather see Kaepernick out there than Smith (of whom I've never been the biggest fan). I'm comfortable with either one, but right now, I do think Kaepernick gives the team a better chance of winning than Smith. Yeah, it's still a crapshoot and I could certainly be wrong about that--Kaepernick may go out there and absolutely suck donkey dick the next time (though I'd be surprised if that's what happened), but I'd personally like to see him in there for at least one more game so we can know more about what direction this will take. I'm not saying that's the right decision, it's just what I would personally like to see happen.
 
2012-11-27 07:34:14 PM

kronicfeld: nvmac: Sure, give him his due, but all I remember is FG after FG after FG after FG

In the 2 and less-than-a-half games before he was injured, Smith was 39/50 for 5 TDs and 1 INT. He proved in last year's divisional playoff that he can play big in big games. Kaepernick has less than 100 passes as an NFL QB, and his big game was against an opponent that has proven to be 100% a different team without its own starting QB. It seems that a playoff-bound team should be risk-averse in making this kind of move.


Yet they are making it? I wonder why...

Could it be that statistics are not all that makes up an NFL quarterback? I've watched the guy throw more passes into the dirt or over the heads of his receivers that I can count (especially out of the pocket). And I must say it, as irrelevant as it is to you stats guys, Alex Smith is boring. Maybe I'm spoiled; I've been watching the 49ers since the days of Brodie and I'm more of a 49er fan than a football junkie. With Alex, it is usually opening kickoff to last second, nail biting, frustration central hoping that he can just pull it out somehow while the defense sacrifices itself to yet another win.

I'll gladly accept the fact that Smith is better on paper. But Brett Favre sucks on paper with his 336 career interceptions and 86% rating, yet is still regarded as one of the greats because the game is fun to watch and not a hypothesis.
 
2012-11-27 07:38:21 PM
I personally think Alex Smith knows that his career with the 49ers is all but over. Kaep is the future of the 49ers.
 
2012-11-27 07:41:13 PM

kronicfeld: nvmac: Sure, give him his due, but all I remember is FG after FG after FG after FG

In the 2 and less-than-a-half games before he was injured, Smith was 39/50 for 5 TDs and 1 INT. He proved in last year's divisional playoff that he can play big in big games. Kaepernick has less than 100 passes as an NFL QB, and his big game was against an opponent that has proven to be 100% a different team without its own starting QB. It seems that a playoff-bound team should be risk-averse in making this kind of move.


Wait, the other team's starting QB has an affect on how well one's own team's QB does? I would think it would be the other team's defense that had more to do with that, but I'm no coach or anything.
 
2012-11-27 07:42:16 PM

srhp29: kronicfeld: nvmac: Sure, give him his due, but all I remember is FG after FG after FG after FG

In the 2 and less-than-a-half games before he was injured, Smith was 39/50 for 5 TDs and 1 INT. He proved in last year's divisional playoff that he can play big in big games. Kaepernick has less than 100 passes as an NFL QB, and his big game was against an opponent that has proven to be 100% a different team without its own starting QB. It seems that a playoff-bound team should be risk-averse in making this kind of move.

Wait, the other team's starting QB has an affect on how well one's own team's QB does? I would think it would be the other team's defense that had more to do with that, but I'm no coach or anything.


And the niners defense should have sucked by that logic.
 
2012-11-27 07:44:37 PM

nvmac: Could it be that statistics are not all that makes up an NFL quarterback? I've watched the guy throw more passes into the dirt or over the heads of his receivers that I can count (especially out of the pocket). And I must say it, as irrelevant as it is to you stats guys, Alex Smith is boring. Maybe I'm spoiled; I've been watching the 49ers since the days of Brodie and I'm more of a 49er fan than a football junkie. With Alex, it is usually opening kickoff to last second, nail biting, frustration central hoping that he can just pull it out somehow while the defense sacrifices itself to yet another win.

I'll gladly accept the fact that Smith is better on paper. But Brett Favre sucks on paper with his 336 career interceptions and 86% rating, yet is still regarded as one of the greats because the game is fun to watch and not a hypothesis.


It was really telling last year when David Akers set the all-time NFL record for most field goals. The Niners did a great job of moving the ball between their own goal line and their opponents' 25 or so--much of it based on the running game--but waaaaaaaaaaay too many drives stalled out. The Niners' third-down conversion percentage was among the worst (or perhaps even the very worst) in the league, and there was more than one game, I believe, in which zero passes were completed to wide receivers. A team needs to have some ability to make a few big, long-yardage plays per game, and Smith does not seem to have that ability. Kaepernick does.

Smith's ability to take care of the ball, avoid mistakes, and complete short passes has been valuable, but it also makes the 49ers' passing game one-dimensional and predictable. It may take more than that for the 49ers to go where they want to go.
 
2012-11-27 07:46:32 PM
They showed Alex Smith on TV when CK scored the rushing TD and Smith did not look at all happy.

I think CK has the potential to be in the discussion with Brady/Manning/Rodgers. He looks like he has a big upside.
 
2012-11-27 07:52:24 PM

king of vegas: They showed Alex Smith on TV when CK scored the rushing TD and Smith did not look at all happy.

I think CK has the potential to be in the discussion with Brady/Manning/Rodgers. He looks like he has a big upside.


Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.....

this is not my Batman glass.
 
2012-11-27 07:55:54 PM

king of vegas: They showed Alex Smith on TV when CK scored the rushing TD and Smith did not look at all happy.

I think CK has the potential to be in the discussion with Brady/Manning/Rodgers. He looks like he has a big upside.


I saw that as well. We shouldn't jump to any conclusions about K being like the greats. It's only 2.5 games.
 
2012-11-27 07:58:55 PM

PacificaFitz: I personally think Alex Smith knows that his career with the 49ers is all but over. Kaep is the future of the 49ers.


I htink that we might find out that the 49ers mortgaged their QB bank. If K fails, they won't have any QB. Doing this now was bad timing in my opinion.
 
2012-11-27 08:07:38 PM
If Harbaugh starts Smith over Kaepernick I will go to his house in Danville/San Ramon and leave a big poopy pile of diarrhea on his doorstop. It is so patently obvious that Kap is better that Smith should never again see the field for the 49ers so long as there exists a healthy Colin Kaepernick. In his two starts, he made about 5-6 plays per game, either with his arms, legs, or pure situational presence, that Smith either cannot physically make (like accuracy more than 10 yards downfield), or just does not make (moving around in the pocket rather than turtling up and taking a sack).


This is the easiest decision in the world, and it boggles my mind that there exist people out there who still think Smith should start over Kaepernick. This isn't Montana vs. Young, this is Montana vs Deberg.
 
2012-11-27 08:09:32 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: If Harbaugh starts Smith over Kaepernick I will go to his house in Danville/San Ramon and leave a big poopy pile of diarrhea on his doorstop. It is so patently obvious that Kap is better that Smith should never again see the field for the 49ers so long as there exists a healthy Colin Kaepernick. In his two starts, he made about 5-6 plays per game, either with his arms, legs, or pure situational presence, that Smith either cannot physically make (like accuracy more than 10 yards downfield), or just does not make (moving around in the pocket rather than turtling up and taking a sack).


This is the easiest decision in the world, and it boggles my mind that there exist people out there who still think Smith should start over Kaepernick. This isn't Montana vs. Young, this is Montana vs Deberg.


2.5 games in and you annointing him the 49ers savior?
 
2012-11-27 08:12:23 PM
My worry was one that was stated by a number of analysts: that Harbaugh would put Kaepernick in for a second game, this one by choice rather than necessity, and would bomb in the dome. Then you have the worst of all worlds: a young QB with low confidence, a veteran QB with no trust in his coach, and a confused offense. That's why I was reticent to get behind the idea of starting Kaepernick in New Orleans. As it turned out, Kaepernick was able to handle the noise and the pressure and thrived (and the game wouldn't have been nearly as close if Ted Ginn didn't gift the Saints with a first-and-goal), and so I think the Niners should just roll with him.

Do keep in mind that as I wasn't sure if this was the right moment to make the change, I still have no illusions about Alex Smith as a quarterback. He is merely competent, and as has been said, he made the 49ers' offense too one-dimensional. He was not the long-term solution, and I was excited to see what Kaepernick could do. I just wasn't sure this was the right time... but now that the die is cast, let's see where the game goes.

I'm more than willing to sacrifice a chance at this year's Super Bowl if it makes the 49ers even more likely to win the next three.
 
2012-11-27 08:14:12 PM
Noteworthy QB changes on teams that lost the conference championship game the year before, at home, to the team that will go on to win the Superbowl:

Jay Cutler replaced Jake Plummer.
Aaron Rodgers replaced Favre.
Kaepernick replacing Alex Smith.
 
2012-11-27 08:14:41 PM

Selanne: This is the easiest decision in the world, and it boggles my mind that there exist people out there who still think Smith should start over Kaepernick. This isn't Montana vs. Young, this is Montana vs Deberg.

2.5 games in and you annointing him the 49ers savior?


Yyyyeah, that might be a bit of hyperbole. I'd lean more towards "Garcia vs. Grbac", at least until seeing more from Kaepernick (including how well he handles a playoff, or at least a must-win situation).
 
2012-11-27 08:16:02 PM
Selanne :2.5 games in and you annointing him the 49ers savior?

Where did I say that?
 
2012-11-27 08:16:18 PM
(Sorry about the misattribution, Selanne/WWIRTA.)
 
2012-11-27 08:17:45 PM
Yyyyeah, that might be a bit of hyperbole. I'd lean more towards "Garcia vs. Grbac", at least until seeing more from Kaepernick (including how well he handles a playoff, or at least a must-win situation).

The point isn't that Kaepernick is Montana, the point is that there is no QB controversy because the decision is so easy. With Montana vs Young, there were VERY legitimate arguments on both sides. With Kaepernick vs Smith, anybody arguing for Smith is clearly somebody who is rooting against the Niners.
 
2012-11-27 08:18:59 PM

JayCab: (Sorry about the misattribution, Selanne/WWIRTA.)


No offense taken!
 
2012-11-27 09:06:14 PM

Cyberluddite: 1.5 games of which were against two crappy teams, and one game in SF against a team that plays really poorly on the road. Let's not forget that in the previous game, against a pretty good team in which the Niners absolutely got their asses handed to them, Smith went 19-for-30 with 0 TDs and 3 INTs for a jaw-dropping 43.1 QB rating, which sort of skews the numbers down a bit.


The same team that just beat the shiat out of Aaron Rodgers, the best QB in the league. So you can't kill Alex Smith for failing against them, either.
 
2012-11-27 09:22:00 PM
Hey, if you're not sure about Kaepernick, the Chiefs will trade you pretty much everyone on the team, save for Jamaal Charles and Derrick Johnson, for him.
 
2012-11-27 09:26:25 PM

jayhawk88: Hey, if you're not sure about Kaepernick, the Chiefs will trade you pretty much everyone on the team, save for Jamaal Charles and Derrick Johnson, for him.


Please don't do that to Colin K. He will become tainted goods. That organization is a failure. everything they touch turns to mush. Don't do that to the kid.
 
2012-11-27 09:58:40 PM

Selanne: Why Would I Read the Article: If Harbaugh starts Smith over Kaepernick I will go to his house in Danville/San Ramon and leave a big poopy pile of diarrhea on his doorstop. It is so patently obvious that Kap is better that Smith should never again see the field for the 49ers so long as there exists a healthy Colin Kaepernick. In his two starts, he made about 5-6 plays per game, either with his arms, legs, or pure situational presence, that Smith either cannot physically make (like accuracy more than 10 yards downfield), or just does not make (moving around in the pocket rather than turtling up and taking a sack).


This is the easiest decision in the world, and it boggles my mind that there exist people out there who still think Smith should start over Kaepernick. This isn't Montana vs. Young, this is Montana vs Deberg.

2.5 games in and you annointing him the 49ers savior?


Against one team that had no starting QB and was absolutely pathetic and another team that has no defense to speak of.
 
2012-11-27 10:25:26 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Against one team that had no starting QB and was absolutely pathetic and another team that has no defense to speak of.


That "one team that had no starting QB" also has the best defense in football, and Kaepernick absolutely shredded them. Oh, and it was his first ever start too, and it also came in primetime. Don't try to mitigate his accomplishments because you just want to be a contrarian. All it accomplishes is making you look foolish. He's been absolute money in his first two starts, and done things that Alex Smith not only hasn't done in 8 years, he's done things that Alex Smith will never do.

No one is putting Kaepernick in Canton already, we're just saying that he's the easy choice to start ahead of Smith. He is much, much better.
 
2012-11-27 10:38:35 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: This is the easiest decision in the world, and it boggles my mind that there exist people out there who still think Smith should start over Kaepernick. This isn't Montana vs. Young, this is Montana vs Deberg.


This! As a Niner fan myself, and being old, this is the best analogy
 
2012-11-27 10:53:33 PM
Wasn't Harbaugh on the same '87 team as Doug Flutie, Steve Fuller, Mike Tomczak, and McMahon.
 
2012-11-27 10:57:12 PM

nvmac: I'm not a Smith fan. Sure, give him his due, but all I remember is FG after FG after FG after FG. He doesn't take chances, he can't throw on the run as well as Kaepernick and when he gets pressured, the play is usually over.


Isn't that San Francisco's system, though? They play conservatively on offense so they don't screw things up for their defense.

I'm not saying Smith is as good of a quarterback as Kaepernick, but Smith might be a better match for the team.
 
2012-11-27 11:00:16 PM

Krieghund: nvmac: I'm not a Smith fan. Sure, give him his due, but all I remember is FG after FG after FG after FG. He doesn't take chances, he can't throw on the run as well as Kaepernick and when he gets pressured, the play is usually over.

Isn't that San Francisco's system, though? They play conservatively on offense so they don't screw things up for their defense.

I'm not saying Smith is as good of a quarterback as Kaepernick, but Smith might be a better match for the team.


yes, but times be a changing
 
2012-11-27 11:05:01 PM
As a Pats fan, I remember the controversy when Bill chose to stick with Brady over Bledsoe. And Bledsoe was a good quarterback and Brady's numbers were nothing to right home about. I see a similarity in these situations though because Bledsoe was boring and the team just played better with Brady under center. Its the it factor and I see it playing on again in San Fran.
 
2012-11-27 11:17:26 PM

Selanne: I htink that we might find out that the 49ers mortgaged their QB bank. If K fails, they won't have any QB. Doing this now was bad timing in my opinion.


Pittsburgh wishes they had this kind of problem.
 
2012-11-27 11:32:12 PM
So one guy gets you within minutes of the Superbowl last year, finally making good on the expectations of being a first overall pick, only to be undone by a backup returners muffed punt returns.

The other guy is very inexperienced with one very good and one decent game under his belt.

So the obvious solution is to poison the well with the experienced guy and hope like hell that the kid isn't a flash in the pan while playing with a win now team (including Randy Moss).

Makes sense to me!
 
2012-11-27 11:33:50 PM
Your blog sucks, and you write at an eighth-grade level.
 
2012-11-27 11:34:17 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: So one guy gets you within minutes of the Superbowl last year, finally making good on the expectations of being a first overall pick, only to be undone by a backup returners muffed punt returns.

The other guy is very inexperienced with one very good and one decent game under his belt.

So the obvious solution is to poison the well with the experienced guy and hope like hell that the kid isn't a flash in the pan while playing with a win now team (including Randy Moss).

Makes sense to me!


I agree with you and if Colin K screws up, Harbaugh has created a mess that he will not be able to clean up. Why take that gamble.
 
2012-11-27 11:36:23 PM
Jim Harbaugh signed a football "What about the juice, what about the gravy!" Harbaugh.

/CSB
//True story.
///What about the Bears, what about the Raiiiduhs!
//Harbaugh!
 
2012-11-28 12:02:57 AM

Representative of the unwashed masses: So one guy gets you within minutes of the Superbowl last year, finally making good on the expectations of being a first overall pick, only to be undone by a backup returners muffed punt returns.

The other guy is very inexperienced with one very good and one decent game under his belt.

So the obvious solution is to poison the well with the experienced guy and hope like hell that the kid isn't a flash in the pan while playing with a win now team (including Randy Moss).

Makes sense to me!


Smith didn't get them anywhere last year. Defense, special teams, and the running game did. The only thing that making the switch to Kaepernick does is it gives the offense an edge it hasn't had since Jeff Garcia, and makes the team way better.

Yeah, what a huge risk.
 
2012-11-28 12:56:33 AM
Alex Smith has a 104.1 passer rating and 8 yards per attempt this season. He's killing it. Let's not act like he has a whole bunch of limitations because a bunch of people who don't watch him (or just saw the Giants game) think he can't throw deep.

Smith's not going to throw 50 yards as easily as Kap, but he throws 20-30 yards well. He does need to step into his longer passes, so he needs more time and space. But anyone who saw the playoff game against the Saints should know that he can make these passes.

Kap might be the better guy to start still. He's been ridiculous, and that's without really running the ball much. But Smith's been more than a game manager.
 
2012-11-28 01:01:29 AM

Dafatone: Alex Smith has a 104.1 passer rating and 8 yards per attempt this season. He's killing it. Let's not act like he has a whole bunch of limitations because a bunch of people who don't watch him (or just saw the Giants game) think he can't throw deep.

Smith's not going to throw 50 yards as easily as Kap, but he throws 20-30 yards well. He does need to step into his longer passes, so he needs more time and space. But anyone who saw the playoff game against the Saints should know that he can make these passes.

Kap might be the better guy to start still. He's been ridiculous, and that's without really running the ball much. But Smith's been more than a game manager.


Exactly!
 
2012-11-28 01:10:24 AM
BTW WTF is going on in the Sports tab today?

Did the modmins start getting paid in beers-per-greenlight or something?
 
2012-11-28 01:15:55 AM
kaepernick isn't a regular backup qb, the 49ers drafted him to be a franchise qb and the only thing keeping him on the bench was that smith was getting the job done so no reason to change things up with a possible championship team. fate intervened, the change had to be made earlier. why change back now when it turned out kaep looks up to the task?
 
2012-11-28 02:08:15 AM
Alex Smith would have kept the 9ers from winning it all anyway, so KEEP HIM IN!

/really hoping SF doesn't win the SB.
 
2012-11-28 05:11:49 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I wonder how many coaches wish they had a problem like this?


Cleveland did have a problem like this, after their only playoff season of the new era. Butch Davis chose...poorly.
 
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