Kuroshin: The controls were so crappy that I got screaming mad at the game by the time I reached the first castle, and my wife didn't even make it to the second castle after I tossed my controller in the trash. (I recovered the controller...eventually)
ManateeGag: How many of those Wii Us were bricks because of the firmware patch?
Smackledorfer: The weirdest thing about people who defend smart-phone gaming is that they try to play up the touch screen and play down the deficits thereof, while we see with the Wii-U and the DS that there are a ton of people who consider the second screen, the controller screen, the stylus, etc to be horrible add-ons to basic gaming.How can something that is viewed in a negative light by so many for even being an option, but then people turn around and count angry birds or fruit ninja sales numbers and declare a touchscreen-only device the death knell for portable gaming systems? One of these two views is massively wrong, or there is a lot of overlap and people are contradicting their own views, OR the two groups are completely separate and the cellphones aren't going to dent the DS market.
Smackledorfer: Dedicated gamimg devices, even including pcs for gaming, seems like a better category than one including cellphones.
EvilJRoss: Surool: Subby750,000 x $199 = 149,250,000400,000 x 399 = 159,600,000Nintendo beat them with a console that cost twice as much with almost no library. Plus they sold out.So, who had a bad week again?The WiiU sales for $299 for the 8g kit and $349 for the 16g kit. Your numbers are off.I was out shopping on Thanksgiving evening, the Wal-Mart sale. Saw several people picking up the $199 PS3 bundle. The crowd at the special sale display for the 360 was pretty big. You could hear crickets in the Wii section.
Kuroshin: Skarekrough: DoomPaul: I'm not 100% sure on the Wii U's specs but does it really even qualify as a "next gen" console? I mean, how does its specs compare to the 360 and PS3?NIntendo doesn't play by "specs." Their last Gen didn't have HDMI and that was good enough for you even though Sony and Microsoft had it.You don't need to know resolution, memory, graphics or CPU. They have a Wiimote and friggin' Mario. If that's not good enough for you then it's obvious that you don''t like "fun" so move it along.Seriously though. Sony and Microsoft are looking at a decade for turnover. NIntendo is comfortable with six. Let's see how long that lasts.New Super Mario Bros. Wii was not fun. Sluggish controls and stiff movement are the bane of precision platforming. Go play any Mario platformer from Super Mario World and earlier, then play NSMBW. You'll be snapping wiimotes by the dozen. Add in that croquet-balls-in-a-tumble-dryer multiplayer crap, and you'll see why that game has sat on my shelf since the day after I bought it. The controls were so crappy that I got screaming mad at the game by the time I reached the first castle, and my wife didn't even make it to the second castle after I tossed my controller in the trash. (I recovered the controller...eventually)None of the "New" Super Mario games are fun. They all suffer from the horrible, sluggish, stiff, imprecise, and laggy controls - even on the DS. You can even play the original SMB and NSMB on the DS back-to-back for comparison. The new games are crap.
sariq: Nintendo only had 400,000 units to sell. It was sold out everywhere.
DoomPaul: I'm not 100% sure on the Wii U's specs but does it really even qualify as a "next gen" console? I mean, how does its specs compare to the 360 and PS3?
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