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(IGN)   Good news for Nintendo: They sold over 400,000 Wii U consoles over Black Friday Week. Better news for Microsoft: They sold over 750,000 XBox 360s during the same week   (ign.com) divider line 125
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2012-11-27 10:58:18 PM

CygnusDarius: I posted this on another thread, but it's still valid.

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Even that's negated by the fact that Microsoft has released SmartGlass... it basically turns any Windows 8 PC (tablet, laptop, desktop, what have you) or Windows Phone 8 device into a controller for Xbox. It's pretty slick.

I bought my first non-Nintendo console this summer. It was a 360. I have a Wii back at the parents' house. I bought more games for the 360 in the first two months of owning it than I did for the Wii in four years. Why? There's nothing good for the Wii. I don't think the Wii U will be any different.
 
2012-11-27 11:07:24 PM
So Wii U surpassed 360 and PS3 launch numbers, but didn't hit the original Wii launch numbers.

Sales this week are no real indication of console success one way or the other. Fact is, Wii U had no special deals this week, which were available in abundance for every other system. Sales over the next couple weeks as we approach Christmas will be a much better hint at how many kids are begging their parents for a Wii U.
 
2012-11-27 11:14:12 PM

JosephFinn: Nem Wan: JosephFinn: So if I was to buy an XBox in, say, March, I'm safe for at least a few years on that, right?

I'd say so. If a new Xbox was announced tomorrow it would probably be most of a year before it shipped and then it would be a couple years before its install base is big enough and developers are experienced enough to release big-budget games that really innovate over current-gen. The first batch of games tends to look like if previous gen games had more RAM.

Thank you kindly.


I bought one recently (that $250 deal that included forza and skyrim) after getting fed up that my 2007-vintage imac (bootcamped) couldn't handle any of the newer games that i wanted such as skyrim, borderlands 2, ac3, batman city, etc. and that if i wanted to build a small windows pc to put in the living room media cabinet it would cost me around $500, plus whatever frustration i'd encounter getting it to work and fitting everything into a tiny case. Or spending $$$$ for that tiny alienware pc.

while a new xbox was only $250 and is absolutely silent, and all the games work on it, and since most of them are "console ports" anyway, i figure I'm not losing all that much in gameplay experience.

Really the only drawback I can think of is that xbox games aren't that cheap even when they've been around a while, while Steam Sales are farking awesome. and the $40/year for xbox live w/the costco discount.

i figure it'll last me for a few years anyway, even if the xbox 3 comes out next week.
 
2012-11-27 11:15:23 PM
scottydoesntknow:
I'm more surpised that there's 750,000 people who didn't know this will probably be the last year for the current generation of consoles.

I doubt they particularly care. It's only the last year for early adopters.
 
2012-11-27 11:19:01 PM

sariq: Nintendo only had 400,000 units to sell. It was sold out everywhere.


i saw four at two different stores on friday
 
2012-11-27 11:19:58 PM

Earpj: My kids still play their PS2. In fact, they've asked for mostly old PS2 games for Christmas.


if they dont have smuggler's run, you should be able to find it for a buck at a gamestop
 
2012-11-27 11:25:34 PM

cretinbob: Because they are exactly the same thing marketed at the same demographic, moronmitter


This. At this point, they're not even really in competition with eachother.
 
2012-11-27 11:29:17 PM


styckx
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I heard it's barely equal to them.


You heard wrong. It has 4x the memory of either of them, and the GPU is far more powerful (though I have heard the CPU is merely on par with them). The next gen entries from Sony and MS will likely be more powerful than the Wii U, but the Wii U still beats the current gen handily.

styckx: Wii-U is just the 4th generation N64. They keep giving each console minimal hardware upgrades and add one new shiny object to justify making people pay another $300 for it.

N64 Gimmick - 64Bit

Gamecube Gimmick - Discs instead of carts

Wii Gimmick - Motion controller

Wii-U Gimmick - LCD controller




Yeah, I totally can't tell the difference either, dude.
 
2012-11-27 11:31:30 PM

HeartBurnKid: styckx: I heard it's barely equal to them.

You heard wrong. It has 4x the memory of either of them, and the GPU is far more powerful (though I have heard the CPU is merely on par with them). The next gen entries from Sony and MS will likely be more powerful than the Wii U, but the Wii U still beats the current gen handily.

styckx: Wii-U is just the 4th generation N64. They keep giving each console minimal hardware upgrades and add one new shiny object to justify making people pay another $300 for it.

N64 Gimmick - 64Bit

Gamecube Gimmick - Discs instead of carts

Wii Gimmick - Motion controller

Wii-U Gimmick - LCD controller



Yeah, I totally can't tell the difference either, dude.


OK, it'd help if my images didn't get thrown out by Fark...

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2012-11-27 11:49:07 PM

Marine1: CygnusDarius: I posted this on another thread, but it's still valid.

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Even that's negated by the fact that Microsoft has released SmartGlass... it basically turns any Windows 8 PC (tablet, laptop, desktop, what have you) or Windows Phone 8 device into a controller for Xbox. It's pretty slick.

I bought my first non-Nintendo console this summer. It was a 360. I have a Wii back at the parents' house. I bought more games for the 360 in the first two months of owning it than I did for the Wii in four years. Why? There's nothing good for the Wii. I don't think the Wii U will be any different.


Well, Microsoft should also get think on doing it. Or kickstart project, c'mon :C
 
2012-11-27 11:51:01 PM

cretinbob: Because they are exactly the same thing marketed at the same demographic, moronmitter


I assumed that the submitted knew this and that was why they both got props.
 
2012-11-27 11:55:13 PM

Marine1: CygnusDarius: I posted this on another thread, but it's still valid.

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Even that's negated by the fact that Microsoft has released SmartGlass... it basically turns any Windows 8 PC (tablet, laptop, desktop, what have you) or Windows Phone 8 device into a controller for Xbox. It's pretty slick.

I bought my first non-Nintendo console this summer. It was a 360. I have a Wii back at the parents' house. I bought more games for the 360 in the first two months of owning it than I did for the Wii in four years. Why? There's nothing good for the Wii. I don't think the Wii U will be any different.


Have to be honest, my experience has been the exact opposite. I had all kinds of games on my Wii. When I got an HDTV, I foolishly sold it and bought an XBox 360. I didn't buy a lot of games for it, simply because almost everything I wanted on it was also on Steam, for half the price or less. With free multiplayer, to boot. Just got through selling that off and using the proceeds to buy a new graphics card for my HTPC, and I'll just use Steam's Big Picture mode as my console going forward (though I might get a Wii U down the line).
 
2012-11-28 12:17:02 AM

poot_rootbeer: The NSMB games seem to take the character physics from the 3-D Super Mario games and apply them to a classic 2-D platformer. Not sure why it was done, but it's fine once you get used to it.


This is not okay.

The games can still be fun, but they are watered down. The old games could have more interesting challeges wherein Mario would need to do all sorts of fancy acrobatics just to survive. The new games have to account for the fact that Mario's reaction time is now extra slow, so they can't require quick transitions from one action to another.

Look up some of the Kaizo Mario hacks on YouTube. That stuff is only possible with the old Mario physics (SMB3 and SMW being the most popular in the Mario hacking community). Even the non-Kaizo-level hacks tend to require fast reflexes and decent skill, and that is as it should be. That's how Mario games were until the first truly bad one, Mario 64.

I still enjoy new Mario challenges these days, but the fan-made games are now considerably better than the stuff Nintendo puts out. Some franchises, like Zelda, do really well in 3D. Others, like Mario, Metroid, and Castlevania (or any platformers, come to think of it), do not.
 
2012-11-28 12:29:43 AM
I sure would like a decent game for the 3ds that isn;t named Ocarina of Time. I'm still waiting
 
2012-11-28 12:50:13 AM

germ78: Nintendo would make a killing if they licensed out some of their AAA games to Sony and Microsoft for sale in their respective stores. Sure, you'll have to substitute something else for the stupid waggle motion, but most games would be better off without it anyway.


shiat yeah they would. Give me super smash brothers (n64) version to play on xbox live and I'd buy it. Along with Mario and shiat
 
2012-11-28 01:00:05 AM

Vexed Thespian: sariq: Nintendo only had 400,000 units to sell. It was sold out everywhere.

i saw four at two different stores on friday


Yeah, it's sold out everywhere, aside from Target, Best Buy and Walmart. But otherwise, everywhere.
 
2012-11-28 01:06:57 AM

Tax Boy: Really the only drawback I can think of is that xbox games aren't that cheap even when they've been around a while, while Steam Sales are farking awesome. and the $40/year for xbox live w/the costco discount.


Check Amazon for deals right now. I grabbed Forza Horizon for $15 on one of Amazon's Black Friday lightning deals, for example. They are going to be running some good discounts all the way through the Christmas season.
 
2012-11-28 01:14:11 AM
I'm posting this from my Wii U, which, by the way, has a great web browser.

I like the console. I feel kinda sorry for gamers who skip the Wii U and never get to enjoy ZombiU. I'm having a lot of fun with it. SMBU is also fantastic, and I'm not much of a Nintendo fan. I was going to skip the U. I skipped the Wii, and sold my N64 and GameCube not long after getting them because the games selection kind of sucked.

The U is also a teriffic Netflix device. Best interferface for Netflix so far, and I have had a lot of them.

Honestly, the Wii U feels like a next-gen 2013 update to the SNES, instead of being kin to the Wii.

Yes, the controller is a gimmick, but it's one they perfected on the DS. The games that do it right are really cool.

Don't bother with the Deluxe version unless you want Nintendoland. The cradle can be had for $8 from third parties online, and the internal storage is a moot point because you can add it yourself via USB.

And to back up what was already said... the 'bricking' from the firmware update was falsely reported by an idiot. The console isn't bricked... It's in recovery mode and will finish the update despite the fact that some people are dumb enough to pull the plug during a firmware update.
 
2012-11-28 01:33:45 AM

Smackledorfer: Oh and smw was easy, so if that is your accomplishment to brag about I may have to completely discount your wii-u experience.

Smw made sm2 look hard.


Sm2 was hard. Or maybe I was stoned.

Yeah, definitely the second one.
 
2012-11-28 02:19:04 AM

NetOwl: Metroid


The Metroid Prime trilogy disagrees with you.

/Though not as good as Super Metroid
//Few games are though
 
2012-11-28 03:01:28 AM
Well... The Wii U isn't getting Grand Theft Auto V...

Does look interesting, but not enough to get me to want to buy one right now.
 
2012-11-28 03:09:34 AM
Subby

750,000 x $199 = 149,250,000

400,000 x 399 = 159,600,000

Nintendo beat them with a console that cost twice as much with almost no library. Plus they sold out.

So, who had a bad week again?
 
2012-11-28 03:49:15 AM

Kuroshin: None of the "New" Super Mario games are fun. They all suffer from the horrible, sluggish, stiff, imprecise, and laggy controls - even on the DS. You can even play the original SMB and NSMB on the DS back-to-back for comparison. The new games are crap.


I agree 100%. And don't even get me started on the whole "wiggle the wiimote and hold b to pick something up."
 
2012-11-28 04:03:43 AM
I love my 360. That is all.

My Wii is collecting dust and has been after the first six months, and so far I see no incentive in purchasing the Wii U
 
2012-11-28 06:40:53 AM
The more astonishing fact in all this is that the original Wii still managed to sell 300,000 units in the same week. That's a hell of a lot of units sold of a console pretty much everyone has declared dead.

Between the WiiU, the Wii, the DS, an the 3DS, Nintendo sold something like 1.2 million consoles last week.
 
2012-11-28 06:50:33 AM

Earpj: My kids still play their PS2. In fact, they've asked for mostly old PS2 games for Christmas.


I've just been given one, can't wait to try a shiat load of games i've never seen before.

/360 and Wii owner.
 
2012-11-28 07:44:03 AM

The Angry Hand of God: styckx: Tourney3p0: The Wii U should be collecting dust in every household in America in no time.

But does it have OVER 9000 shiatty plastic controller attachments yet?

It should have a broom and dustpan one. The game could be to pick up all the other shiatty attachments and throw them out.


this is funny since i sold my 360 slim ever since i dropped XBL gold (since it has the worst version of netflix and the worst online community and the worst versions of downloadable indie games - not counting the horrible support MS has given to XBLIG), kinect collecting dust almost since the day i bought it back in 2010 didn't help either (the tech was ahead of its time, but not really in a good way, it was a decent dancing game accessory in the long run but that's about all it's become)

Kuroshin: DoomPaul: I'm not 100% sure on the Wii U's specs but does it really even qualify as a "next gen" console? I mean, how does its specs compare to the 360 and PS3?

A little bit less, a little bit more.

Less CPU, more GPU. Not really going to matter much, since it's not exactly pushing lots of polys at high resolutions. AI and calculations will be slower/worse on the WiiU, while some extra bling can be added on the graphical front. Pretty much a wash.

So what I'm saying is that it's the next Nintendo console. Nintendo lags behind in order to keep their price low. They aren't in competition for the next round of mega-AAA gaming.


it's got a better GPU and more ram to work with, not to mention it pushes a second picture to the controller without eating into resources

its biggest problem isn't really the CPU it's the slow ram bus speed, it's half that of the PS3 or 360

i'm positive the console will have breathtaking games that can be looked at as nearly as good as what you'll see on PS4/720, but say goodbye to ports after a certain point
 
2012-11-28 07:55:00 AM

Surool: Subby

750,000 x $199 = 149,250,000

400,000 x 399 = 159,600,000

Nintendo beat them with a console that cost twice as much with almost no library. Plus they sold out.

So, who had a bad week again?


There were three Wii U at my Toys R Us on Monday and GameStop still had them.

Hardly sold out.

/admittedly, I was tempted to get one
 
2012-11-28 07:57:20 AM

Surool: Subby

750,000 x $199 = 149,250,000

400,000 x 399 = 159,600,000

Nintendo beat them with a console that cost twice as much with almost no library. Plus they sold out.

So, who had a bad week again?


Should also point out that Nintendo loses money on each console sold. (Though it only takes one game sale per console for them to make a profit).

400,000 x (net loss) = (net loss)
 
2012-11-28 07:58:59 AM

Vexed Thespian: Earpj: My kids still play their PS2. In fact, they've asked for mostly old PS2 games for Christmas.

if they dont have smuggler's run, you should be able to find it for a buck at a gamestop


I'll go look. Thanks.

/I have Magic Pengel and Soul Caliber...3 or 4...in the closet.
//I LOVE cheap Christmas presents that they actually want.
 
2012-11-28 08:00:05 AM
I have a tween and two freshman in college, we got a Wii when it launched and they just never got into it. OTOH they have burned up 3 Xboxes. One from the RROD and the others just wore out.

I have a PS3, don't play it as much as I would like but I use the shiat out of the blueray and netflix.

/still have my Atari 2600, in the box and my NES with the Powerpad
 
2012-11-28 08:02:49 AM

SickAsAParrot:

I've just been given one, can't wait to try a shiat load of games i've never seen before.

/360 and Wii owner.


Don't get "Monster Rancher". You get new monsters from different disks, like cd's and dvd's. Sounds great...we went through about 4 PS2's b/c of that game. The constant swapping of disks killed the laser.
 
2012-11-28 08:09:10 AM

Trade Secret: I have a tween and two freshman in college, we got a Wii when it launched and they just never got into it. OTOH they have burned up 3 Xboxes. One from the RROD and the others just wore out.

I have a PS3, don't play it as much as I would like but I use the shiat out of the blueray and netflix.

/still have my Atari 2600, in the box and my NES with the Powerpad


This is like us, as well. (Well...we have 4 at home, including older son's fiance...he's at college 4 hours away, and a daughter at college)
No one plays on the Wii.

We have 2 360's in the house, and college son got the Star Wars one for high school graduation. We also have a PS3 that they're just now wanting games for. (They wanted it only for Disgaea 3)

The Nintendo 64 gets more play than the Wii.
/I don't see a Wii U in our future.
 
2012-11-28 08:18:24 AM

Kuroshin: Skarekrough: DoomPaul: I'm not 100% sure on the Wii U's specs but does it really even qualify as a "next gen" console? I mean, how does its specs compare to the 360 and PS3?

NIntendo doesn't play by "specs." Their last Gen didn't have HDMI and that was good enough for you even though Sony and Microsoft had it.

You don't need to know resolution, memory, graphics or CPU. They have a Wiimote and friggin' Mario. If that's not good enough for you then it's obvious that you don''t like "fun" so move it along.

Seriously though. Sony and Microsoft are looking at a decade for turnover. NIntendo is comfortable with six. Let's see how long that lasts.

New Super Mario Bros. Wii was not fun. Sluggish controls and stiff movement are the bane of precision platforming. Go play any Mario platformer from Super Mario World and earlier, then play NSMBW. You'll be snapping wiimotes by the dozen. Add in that croquet-balls-in-a-tumble-dryer multiplayer crap, and you'll see why that game has sat on my shelf since the day after I bought it. The controls were so crappy that I got screaming mad at the game by the time I reached the first castle, and my wife didn't even make it to the second castle after I tossed my controller in the trash. (I recovered the controller...eventually)

None of the "New" Super Mario games are fun. They all suffer from the horrible, sluggish, stiff, imprecise, and laggy controls - even on the DS. You can even play the original SMB and NSMB on the DS back-to-back for comparison. The new games are crap.


In contrast, my friends and I found NSMBW to be hilariously awesome. It quickly became our go-to group game and even affected our vocabulary ("dude, do you even bubble?") Obviously we've had different experiences.
 
2012-11-28 08:39:39 AM

Earpj:
Don't get "Monster Rancher". You get new monsters from different disks, like cd's and dvd's. Sounds great...we went through about 4 PS2's b/c of that game. The constant swapping of disks killed the laser.


Ha!, no, that didn't appear in any of the 'top 25' lists i was looking at!, I was thinking more like Metal Gear Solid or Final Fantasy.

I already collected a fair few original XBOX games as the 360 will play them, so it will be nice to see some PS exclusives. And i'd love to get hold of a copy of the original PS Destruction Derby 2, I used to love that on the PC.
 
2012-11-28 08:41:35 AM

I can't get the cap off!: The Angry Hand of God: What in the hell is a Wii U? Is that where you go to learn how to play Wii? I haven't seen any advertisements for this on the television.

I have to admit it kind of seems like Nintendo is content to sit back this generation and coast as far as they can on the success of the Wii.


It's endemic in Japanese gaming - their industry is flagging and most of the really outspoken critics are japanese game developers who openly admit that they are just not coming up with the good ideas like they used to.

Here's some interesting comments from the guy who did the character design on both the original Street Fighter and Mega Man games.

I tend to agree with him. I see an industry that is really stagnating and trading in on aging brands to keep cash coming in. If you look at all the new and popular brands that have appeared in the last 10 years or so, they are almost exclusively western in origination. That's probably a complete flip from where gaming was in the 90's.
 
2012-11-28 08:52:12 AM

AdamK: it's got a better GPU and more ram to work with, not to mention it pushes a second picture to the controller without eating into resources

its biggest problem isn't really the CPU it's the slow ram bus speed, it's half that of the PS3 or 360

i'm positive the console will have breathtaking games that can be looked at as nearly as good as what you'll see on PS4/720, but say goodbye to ports after a certain point

Nintendo hasn't been good at ports, ever really. Even the Gamecube, while a pretty powerful machine compared to the PS2, went and used mini dvd instead of the standard 12 cm, which could hold significantly less. Not all games needed that much space mind you, but I think it's a complication that developers shouldn't have had to deal with. I personally buy Nintendo for their exclusives, though I think they should be in a better position with developers now that they're using Bluray sized discs and will have the option of installing games to a hard drive.
 
2012-11-28 09:11:08 AM

Surool: Subby

750,000 x $199 = 149,250,000

400,000 x 399 = 159,600,000

Nintendo beat them with a console that cost twice as much with almost no library. Plus they sold out.

So, who had a bad week again?



The WiiU sales for $299 for the 8g kit and $349 for the 16g kit. Your numbers are off.


I was out shopping on Thanksgiving evening, the Wal-Mart sale. Saw several people picking up the $199 PS3 bundle. The crowd at the special sale display for the 360 was pretty big. You could hear crickets in the Wii section.
 
2012-11-28 09:18:23 AM

Imperious Rex!: I love my 360. That is all.

My Wii is collecting dust and has been after the first six months, and so far I see no incentive in purchasing the Wii U


I see a lot of this here. It is either hyperbole, people buying it despite not liking mario/zelda/kirby, or stupidity.

Mario galaxy 2 and skyward sword were both a blast.
 
2012-11-28 09:18:34 AM

EvilJRoss: Surool: Subby

750,000 x $199 = 149,250,000

400,000 x 399 = 159,600,000

Nintendo beat them with a console that cost twice as much with almost no library. Plus they sold out.

So, who had a bad week again?


The WiiU sales for $299 for the 8g kit and $349 for the 16g kit. Your numbers are off.


I was out shopping on Thanksgiving evening, the Wal-Mart sale. Saw several people picking up the $199 PS3 bundle. The crowd at the special sale display for the 360 was pretty big. You could hear crickets in the Wii section.


Better comparison:

Microsoft is currently selling one video game console: the Xbox 360. They sold 750,000 last week.

Nintendo is currently selling four video game consoles: the Wii U, the Wii, the 3DS, and the DS. Combined, Nintendo sold 1.2 million units last week.
 
2012-11-28 09:25:32 AM

Smackledorfer: Imperious Rex!: I love my 360. That is all.

My Wii is collecting dust and has been after the first six months, and so far I see no incentive in purchasing the Wii U

I see a lot of this here. It is either hyperbole, people buying it despite not liking mario/zelda/kirby, or stupidity.

Mario galaxy 2 and skyward sword were both a blast.


Were a blast. Yes. Not even the kids want to hyper bowl on it any more. For those people that use their Wii as a main console absolutely upgrade now. I'll going to pass for now. p.s. anyone want an original Wii at a good price?
 
2012-11-28 09:31:33 AM

Surool: Subby

750,000 x $199 = 149,250,000

400,000 x 399 = 159,600,000

Nintendo beat them with a console that cost twice as much with almost no library. Plus they sold out.

So, who had a bad week again?


The Deluxe version of the Wii U is $349 and the Basic is $299.

For the Xbox, there are 4 versions:

4 GB - $199
4 GB w/ Kinect - $299
250 GB - $299
250 GB w/ Kinect - $399

Granted, the Xbox had holiday bundles with games included, and there were a lot of Back Friday sales that brought the price down by $100 on the Xbox bundles, but I'm betting the average selling price was probably within $100 between the two once you figure that a good chunk of Wii U sales were on the basic version selling at $299 and a decent number of Xbox sold were probably 250 GB Kinect bundles discounted down to $299. That's really not twice the price if you do the math.
 
2012-11-28 09:39:41 AM

olapbill: Smackledorfer: Imperious Rex!: I love my 360. That is all.

My Wii is collecting dust and has been after the first six months, and so far I see no incentive in purchasing the Wii U

I see a lot of this here. It is either hyperbole, people buying it despite not liking mario/zelda/kirby, or stupidity.

Mario galaxy 2 and skyward sword were both a blast.

Were a blast. Yes. Not even the kids want to hyper bowl on it any more. For those people that use their Wii as a main console absolutely upgrade now. I'll going to pass for now. p.s. anyone want an original Wii at a good price?


Im not saying the system has a good library. It absolutely does not.

I'm saying it has a much better library than people who don't pick up at least an average of a game per year for it.

If one didn't like the games I mentioned and bought the Wii, they should theoretically be too stupid to post.
 
2012-11-28 09:42:35 AM

Doc Daneeka: Better comparison:

Microsoft is currently selling one video game console: the Xbox 360. They sold 750,000 last week.

Nintendo is currently selling four video game consoles: the Wii U, the Wii, the 3DS, and the DS. Combined, Nintendo sold 1.2 million units last week.


We WERE talking about consoles, but if you wanted to include every device sold by each company that can play games, then you also might want to include the Windows Phone and Windows PC sales in that number. Microsoft doesn't get a cut of sales on the PC side of things unless someone buys a Microsoft game or gets one via the Win 8 or Win Phone stores, but they are technically gaming capable devices that Microsoft makes money off of one way or the other.
 
2012-11-28 09:49:59 AM

Mad_Radhu: Doc Daneeka: Better comparison:

Microsoft is currently selling one video game console: the Xbox 360. They sold 750,000 last week.

Nintendo is currently selling four video game consoles: the Wii U, the Wii, the 3DS, and the DS. Combined, Nintendo sold 1.2 million units last week.

We WERE talking about consoles, but if you wanted to include every device sold by each company that can play games, then you also might want to include the Windows Phone and Windows PC sales in that number. Microsoft doesn't get a cut of sales on the PC side of things unless someone buys a Microsoft game or gets one via the Win 8 or Win Phone stores, but they are technically gaming capable devices that Microsoft makes money off of one way or the other.


That seems a stretch.

Dedicated gamimg devices, even including pcs for gaming, seems like a better category than one including cellphones.
 
2012-11-28 09:50:08 AM

Mad_Radhu: Doc Daneeka: Better comparison:

Microsoft is currently selling one video game console: the Xbox 360. They sold 750,000 last week.

Nintendo is currently selling four video game consoles: the Wii U, the Wii, the 3DS, and the DS. Combined, Nintendo sold 1.2 million units last week.

We WERE talking about consoles, but if you wanted to include every device sold by each company that can play games, then you also might want to include the Windows Phone and Windows PC sales in that number. Microsoft doesn't get a cut of sales on the PC side of things unless someone buys a Microsoft game or gets one via the Win 8 or Win Phone stores, but they are technically gaming capable devices that Microsoft makes money off of one way or the other.


Well, that's kind of an apples and oranges comparison. A handheld console like a 3DS or a Vita is a dedicated gaming machine like a home console, and so belongs in the same category. A smartphone or a PC is not solely or even primarily a game machine.

But even if you're only talking about home consoles and excluding handhelds and other devices, Nintendo moved 700,000 last week (400,000 Wii U + 300,000 Wii), which is practically the same number of Xboxes that Microsoft sold.
 
2012-11-28 09:56:15 AM

Smackledorfer: olapbill: Smackledorfer: Imperious Rex!: I love my 360. That is all.

My Wii is collecting dust and has been after the first six months, and so far I see no incentive in purchasing the Wii U

I see a lot of this here. It is either hyperbole, people buying it despite not liking mario/zelda/kirby, or stupidity.

Mario galaxy 2 and skyward sword were both a blast.

Were a blast. Yes. Not even the kids want to hyper bowl on it any more. For those people that use their Wii as a main console absolutely upgrade now. I'll going to pass for now. p.s. anyone want an original Wii at a good price?

Im not saying the system has a good library. It absolutely does not.

I'm saying it has a much better library than people who don't pick up at least an average of a game per year for it.

If one didn't like the games I mentioned and bought the Wii, they should theoretically be too stupid to post.


I'll drink to that. But only coffee with Baileys. Its not even 10 am here.
 
2012-11-28 09:56:45 AM
The only reason the Wii isn't the most useless piece of electronics I have ever purchased is the fact that I own a Toshiba HD-DVD player. The damn thing collects more dust than my PS3 which is so disused that I'm not even sure where the controllers are. Seriously the last game I played on the PS3 is Drakes Fortune 3 which was dissapointing, and the last game I played on the Wii was the the new SMB (the first one).
 
2012-11-28 09:57:28 AM

Smackledorfer: That seems a stretch.


also, we are talking about whether company A is a failure we should all pile on or not. Nobody is making that claim about microsoft, but if they were I'd have no problem pointing to other revenue streams.

I don't think anyone, not even the most rabid nintendo fanboy, is claiming nintendo is the superior gaming company.

Also a prediction: the 'gimmick' of the wii-u will be poorly executed, but done just well enough that both microsoft and sony get in on the game for their next gen :)
 
2012-11-28 10:00:35 AM

SickAsAParrot:
Ha!, no, that didn't appear in any of the 'top 25' lists i was looking at!, I was thinking more like Metal Gear Solid or Final Fantasy.

I already collected a fair few original XBOX games as the 360 will play them, so it will be nice to see some PS exclusives. And i'd love to get hold of a copy of the original PS Destruction Derby 2, I used to love that on the PC.


Fair enough. My kids like fighting games and Pokemon type games. Disgaea was a BIG hit with them.
I would like to build my kids a Yoshi Box. I'm only missing, oh...a lot of consoles.
 
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