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(Jezebel)   "The Casanova myth is so deeply ingrained that people are convinced that boys who claim to want relationships rather than casual sex are either incredibly rare or full of crap." or are trying to claw their way out of the "Friend Zone"   (jezebel.com) divider line 62
    More: Interesting, Giacomo Casanova, friend zones, interpersonal relationship, cultural landscape, sexual excitement, Challenging Casanova, A Natural History of Rape, Petraeus  
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2012-11-27 08:01:41 PM  
11 votes:
img2.owned.com
2012-11-27 06:13:32 PM  
11 votes:
Just a few thoughts.

Smiler cites the findings of the International Sexuality Description Project which found that when asked about what they'd like to have happen in the next month, 25% of young men wanted to have two or more sexual partners in that time frame...75% of young men, despite the cultural pressures towards heterosexual male promiscuity, wanted only one (or zero) partners in the upcoming month.

No, 25 percent of young men wanted to have 2 or more sexual partners AT THE SAME TIME during that time frame. They just misunderstood the question. The other 75 percent did not entertain such aspirations because they knew it was as likely as winning Powerball. You learn to appreciate what's realistic or you die unhappy.

something that only 5% of young women admitted to wanting.

WHORES.

In Challenging Casanova, Smiler notes that heterosexual young men tend to fall into three categories: a small percentage of "players" with a high number of sexual partners;

aka, studs

an equally small percentage of young (almost always devoutly religious) dudes who are determined to remain abstinent until marriage,

aka, Jesus freaks and closeted homosexuals

and a much larger third group whom he argues want to follow "a reasonably traditional, romantic approach to dating." Even when they're "hooking up" (a practice that is neither as novel nor as ubiquitous as wistful and censorious aging pundits imagine) these guys are engaging in the gateway behavior into what they hope will be a relationship.

No, these are the guys who are saying the things they believe they need to say to get a woman into bed.

These findings contradict most of our received wisdom about what young men really want.

No they don't.

"I'm constantly told that the 'boys are lying' to me about what they really want," Smiler says in a phone interview. "The Casanova myth is so deeply ingrained that people are convinced that boys who claim to want relationships rather than casual sex are either incredibly rare or full of crap." The small number of genuinely promiscuous boys is explained away by absence of opportunity rather than absence of desire; the myth that most young men would be Casanovas if they could is as tenacious as it is unfounded. There seem to be few other aspects of human sexual behavior where the disconnect between reality and perception is so vast.

So..."I don't believe A is true, but everybody else does. Therefore, A is a deeply ingrained myth that is not true."

Yet Millenial guys are genuinely different in their attitudes towards sex than their Gen X and Boomer elders.

No, they've just grown up with a generation of women who are much more willing to engage in casual sex.

A substantial part of that evolution can be explained by a much-more widespread acceptance of cross-sex friendship. "Today, most boys have at least one friend who happens to be female -- a 'girl friend' but not a 'girlfriend,'"

And what percentage of these are fark buddies?

Perhaps the biggest take-away from Smiler's work is that men's sexual choices are just that, choices. Physiology and evolution may influence desires, but they don't override any man's capacity to reflect before acting. The myth of male weakness and the Casanova Complex suggest that men are ultimately powerless in the face of their sexual impulses, and that it is the responsibility of those who are less horny -- women - to cover their bodies, set healthy boundaries, and generally prevent civilization from collapsing into orgiastic chaos.

Yes. Yes, this is why things General Petraeus is still head of the CIA.

Biology hasn't changed, but boys have, and for the better. May they teach their parents well.

Bullshiat. 

Other than that, great article.
2012-11-27 09:29:02 PM  
9 votes:
everythingfunny.org
2012-11-27 07:29:54 PM  
5 votes:
Hug Me To Completion is my Teddy Ruxpin tribute band.
2012-11-27 11:13:43 PM  
4 votes:

dopekitty74: Let me tell you a story about two guys, Dan and Stu

Dan is 32, short, a biatchubby, with glasses and a bad leg that makes him limp a bit. Wears alot of tie-dyed shirts and generally has very little fashion sense.

Stu is 34, tall, lean and while slightly balding, not unattractive and has a bigger dick than Dan.

Dan has had flings and relationships and now a marriage with a like-minded woman.

Stu has never had a serious relationship in his life, doesn't have a clue how to talk to women and when they do show any interest at all, clings to them like they were the last floating timber of a sinking ship.

By the way, both of them are huge nerds, into video games and other various nerdy endeavours

it all comes down to some guys have social skills to deal with women, and some don't

/Dan's wife


And you know the size of Stu's dick?..
2012-11-27 09:00:36 PM  
4 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: Women are liars. They say they want a nice guy, but they don't. They want assholes who treat them like shiat. Then they come running to me over and over 'why is he so mean to me?' 'why can't I find a guy who treats me nice like you do?' Then the very next day they're back with the asshole.

You gonna tell me that they are the ones who are getting duped by Casanovas?


Women are so stupid, they actually think their "guy friends" are just friends, instead of creepy losers waiting for them to fall asleep drunk on the couch one night after putt-putt so they can fingerbang them and take photos while doing it. "Josh is so nice, he's always there when I need him, he even let slept on the couch and let me sleep in his bed when I was too drunk to drive home last Tuesday. I don't remember putting my underwear on inside out, though, it must have happened during the night when I went to the bathroom."
2012-11-27 10:12:29 PM  
3 votes:

untaken_name: Butthurted: You have a point, but what if you really like the oranges the first store has? I mean what if the first store has huge, juicy, ripe oranges and the other stores have shriveled, desiccated oranges with nasty seeds and. gasp, bugs? Sometimes, when you find the right oranges, you really don't want another store's oranges. I mean even if you decided to go to store two and purchase their inferior, pulpy, moldy oranges, you would never really enjoy them because you would be thinking about store one's oranges the whole time. Than a few weeks later, as you are walking down the street with the nasty, sour, unripe orange bits still stuck between your teeth, you will see another guy, a real scum bag guy that you knew from that time you went to a party with your cousin in that town 20 minutes from your town, and he will be walking out of store one with YOUR ORANGES!!!! Sometimes you have to be patient in order to get the oranges that you want.

Dude, there is no such thing as a special orange. That's just chemicals in your brain tricking you. There are better oranges and worse oranges, but anything you can get from one orange, you can get from a different orange somewhere else. Oranges just aren't special. Don't put oranges on a pedestal.


Perhaps you are right. Besides that orange has been juiced by all my friends. I should just get past this orange and find another nice orange. There are plenty more in the orchard. You know what they say about tangelos? Got to get me some of that. Now where can a heartsick guy get over the heartbreak of citrus betrayal.....

OMG a PIMP:
i1277.photobucket.com
2012-11-27 10:02:11 PM  
3 votes:

untaken_name: Which would you rather be? Your choice.


I usually just go on the internet and whack off to pictures of oranges.

So to speak.
2012-11-27 09:44:06 PM  
3 votes:

Shedim: Butthurted: bleeding_heart_fascist: [www.manipudating.com image 580x307]
Link

This is by far the most import work ever published on the internet. Just because it is funny does not make it any less true.

I tried to read it - got as far as the pie charts and gave up at the badly-disguised misogyny claiming to be based on actual research instead of the writer's persecution complex.

/it's not that funny either.


Wow, rough day there pal? Well, relax, sit back. You know, it's not all peer reviews and serious bid'ness here. You didn't like the link? That's fine, just have a nice calming cup of tea and wait a few minutes. I am sure something will come along and appeal to your higher standards. In the mean time, try to remember, the next time you don't find something as funny as someone else, feel free to close the link and shut the fark up. If you still feel the need to proclaim your profound sense of disappointment, by all means do so, in fact I will give you a few minutes right now while I go look for the Fark I give about your opinion.

/Nope, it's not here
2012-11-27 09:31:02 PM  
3 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: I wouldn't last long in a relationship if the sex wasn't casual.


Is it still "casual sex" if I'm wearing a Chippendale's collar, or would that be "formal sex?"
2012-11-27 09:02:59 PM  
3 votes:
img5.joyreactor.com
2012-11-27 08:58:06 PM  
3 votes:
s7.postimage.org
2012-11-27 08:50:10 PM  
3 votes:

It's a Trap!: Woohoo! Friend zone thread! I was looking for something to do tonight. Come on trainwreck!


i.imgur.com

I think this girl at work wants me bad. Do I buy her TotalFark?
2012-11-28 12:14:15 AM  
2 votes:
I friend zoned my bestest guy friend from high school. I really didn't want to ruin our friendship and told him so. We ended up getting married a few years later. Six years after that he tried to throw me off a fourth floor balcony.

Moral of the story, men you friend zone never forgive and will try to kill you one day. :-\
2012-11-27 11:44:55 PM  
2 votes:
www.troll.me
2012-11-27 11:35:44 PM  
2 votes:

GoldSpider: GoldSpider: 'round here, I think the standard mating call is "BIE".

untaken_name: EIP. Applications accepted.

AverageAmericanGuy: You have to use the Fark mating call.

'WHY DON'T YOU HAVE EIP?'

We're quite a sad bunch in this thread, aren't we?


Not me. I have hope. One day the girl of my dreams will stop dating that asshole and she'll realize that I'm the one she's been sharing her hopes and fears and dreams with and then she'll fall in love with me.
2012-11-27 11:01:30 PM  
2 votes:

EsteeFlwrPot: I should date a farker


chan.catiewayne.com
2012-11-27 10:45:45 PM  
2 votes:
jimhalterman.com

"You know what a platonic friend is to a woman? It's like a dick in a glass case. In case of emergency, break open glass!"
2012-11-27 10:27:31 PM  
2 votes:
1.bp.blogspot.com
2012-11-27 10:08:39 PM  
2 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: Sorry to hear that you have such a low opinion of women.


AverageAmericanGuy: Women are liars. They say they want a nice guy, but they don't. They want assholes who treat them like shiat.


Lol.
hellogiggles.com
2012-11-27 09:47:34 PM  
2 votes:
I've never been Friend Zoned, but I have been Roomate Zoned. It's easy to get through the Roomate Zone, it just takes alcohol. You do need to be good at finding a new place to live though...
2012-11-27 09:43:11 PM  
2 votes:
My problem with the dreaded Friendzone was this: In school , I was terribly shy. I had no illusions that my female friends wanted anything more than friendship, so I never made a move. It wasn't until I started hearing things like this:

blog.mh.co.za

that I even CONSIDERED asking them out. I had no concept of the Friendzone. I thought they actually liked me. So I'd work up the courage to ask them out, and get shot down. Meanwhile, they go off and get with a guy who treats them like crap.

Now, I can be friends with women without trying to break through the barrier. I was friends with a gorgeous woman I worked with, and never made a move because I was married and she was way out of my league. She later thanked me for being one of the only guys she knew that didn't try to get into her pants.
2012-11-27 09:15:31 PM  
2 votes:

GreenSun: I prefer having one beautiful, sexy, and emotionally stable girlfriend than infinite beautiful and sexy women who lack mental stability. Better alive than dead.


Every man dies. Not every man really lives.
2012-11-27 09:07:14 PM  
2 votes:

Skarekrough: Friend zone? Dude, I spent so much time there in my early 20's I might as well bought property and built a house.


Please, I have a fortress of solitude there... The lonely road out of it is full of sharp rocks, tho.
2012-11-27 09:01:25 PM  
2 votes:
i.qkme.me

/Reddit strikes again!
2012-11-27 08:48:29 PM  
2 votes:
I read that as Castlevania. I can't be the only one.
2012-11-27 06:48:17 PM  
2 votes:
Woohoo! Friend zone thread! I was looking for something to do tonight. Come on trainwreck!

3.bp.blogspot.com
2012-11-27 05:33:40 PM  
2 votes:
I ain't much on Casanova.
Me and Romeo ain't never been friends.
2012-11-28 10:42:02 PM  
1 votes:

zarberg: If we're going along that line of thinking, cannibalism is sometimes an effective means of combating starvation.


There are some Peruvian soccer players who might agree. I don't think I could do cannibalism. My moral compass wouldn't let me eat someone unless I'd already finished off the ketchup, and the fast-foodie in me would never eat anyone without ketchup.
2012-11-28 07:50:41 PM  
1 votes:

from my blood: thesloppy: Exactly how much action am I going to get if I leave my copy of "A Natural History of Rape" out on the table?

Put 20 locks on the front door. Lock some, leave others open.
Put bars on the windows.
Hide anything that could be used as a weapon.

Watch her freak out trying to get out.
Trying to figure out which way to turn the locks.
"Awww, Did you want me to unlock the door for you?"

Then you find out she has a black belt.
And she has a penis.


Feminist love poems are weird.

Roses are red,
violets are blue,
I feel disempowered by my own rape fantasies,
So I blame it on YOU, YOU FILTHY RAPIST!
2012-11-28 07:15:48 PM  
1 votes:

wedun: CygnusDarius: AverageAmericanGuy: What a dickish thing to do. You're willing to throw away a friendship because of your own selfishness?

It hurts, it reaaaaally hurts, did this only twice, but burning bridges -while sad and horrifying as it is- is the only way out. The last friendzone festered the friendship.

what? Hello no. Your an adult, not a petulant child. You don't throw a tantrum because you didn't get what you wanted.


You're right, that's for women to do.
2012-11-28 12:00:30 PM  
1 votes:

kbotc: ///The least happy people I know are the ones who try and find their self worth in the sack.
////Especially if they keep count.


ONE failed sexual encounter... TWO failed sexual encounters THREE failed sexual encounters! AH AH AH!
2012-11-28 03:15:06 AM  
1 votes:

kbotc: untaken_name: kbotc: I'm her third. Not like I'm a rube.

So she told you there was one other then? With men, divide the number of partners they claim by 3 to find the real number. Multiply by 3 for women. Obviously, this is just a rule of thumb, etc.

So, have you stopped beating your wife for being a whore yet?

/Leading questions are leading.


Of course not. Why would I stop when she's still being a whore? Stupid question, man.
2012-11-28 03:10:43 AM  
1 votes:

Occam's Disposable Razor: testosterone drops severely after age 25


".....testosterone drops severely after age 25" - not if you're a bodybuilder bro! My levels, when routinely checked, are nearly five times the amounts shown on your charts. You sure those aren't for castrated eunuchs?
2012-11-28 01:50:41 AM  
1 votes:
Ah, a Jezebel link mentioning men.
No good can come of this.

i.imgur.com
2012-11-27 11:16:22 PM  
1 votes:

balisane: And the girls who actually want that sweet, awkward boyfriend? Not hot, so nobody wants them.

Dudes aren't the only people who get friendzoned, alas.


What you are saying is true. I have had a few of my female friends (that I had no interest in being in a relationship or even sleeping with) awkardly asking me out or tell me when they are really drunk how long they have had a crush on me.

I normally would just try ignore that they have said anything, because I really value our friendship, and they are always there for me when I get screwed over by some chick who I thought was awesome, but turned out to be an absolute biatch.

For some reason I only ever seem to end up dating biatches
2012-11-27 10:59:44 PM  
1 votes:

balisane: I promise that you'll live if they say no. Only you can make it awkward after that: they'll probably forget all about it in a couple of weeks. I've definitely had friendships survive it.


But I think i'm the type to want to date someone that has the balls to ask me out. Not only ask me out, but do it in a funny or unique way like start a political debate or argument with me and then ask me out for coffee as we're screaming at each other about how Romney's folders full of women may really be his other wives and how he secretly plans to turn our country into the "The United States of Mormon."

Oh dear god...

I should date a farker
2012-11-27 10:45:27 PM  
1 votes:

EsteeFlwrPot: You know... i've been having a dry season, so to speak, and I have been thinking of who to have fun with until I find relationship material. I just never thought any of my guy friends would be interested in that.


Nonchalantly mention how you need to get laid.
2012-11-27 10:33:49 PM  
1 votes:

EsteeFlwrPot: Nah, a lot of them are just platonic friends. I really doubt they would ever just want to sleep with me, they definitely would have said something by now or made a move.


Come on to them. Tell them you've always wanted to sleep with them, but never had the courage to say anything. See how many "aren't interested". Those are the gay ones.
2012-11-27 10:29:57 PM  
1 votes:
Isn't it possible for really good friends to fall in love? Or do all romances start with a guy saying "I'll never be your friend, but I'll fark you like a champ, hottie?"
2012-11-27 10:15:59 PM  
1 votes:

Butthurted: untaken_name: Butthurted: You have a point, but what if you really like the oranges the first store has? I mean what if the first store has huge, juicy, ripe oranges and the other stores have shriveled, desiccated oranges with nasty seeds and. gasp, bugs? Sometimes, when you find the right oranges, you really don't want another store's oranges. I mean even if you decided to go to store two and purchase their inferior, pulpy, moldy oranges, you would never really enjoy them because you would be thinking about store one's oranges the whole time. Than a few weeks later, as you are walking down the street with the nasty, sour, unripe orange bits still stuck between your teeth, you will see another guy, a real scum bag guy that you knew from that time you went to a party with your cousin in that town 20 minutes from your town, and he will be walking out of store one with YOUR ORANGES!!!! Sometimes you have to be patient in order to get the oranges that you want.

Dude, there is no such thing as a special orange. That's just chemicals in your brain tricking you. There are better oranges and worse oranges, but anything you can get from one orange, you can get from a different orange somewhere else. Oranges just aren't special. Don't put oranges on a pedestal.

Perhaps you are right. Besides that orange has been juiced by all my friends. I should just get past this orange and find another nice orange. There are plenty more in the orchard. You know what they say about tangelos? Got to get me some of that. Now where can a heartsick guy get over the heartbreak of citrus betrayal.....

OMG a PIMP:
[i1277.photobucket.com image 600x449]


Ack where was the NSFW warning? Look at all those oranges!
2012-11-27 10:15:53 PM  
1 votes:
Threads like this make me feel so weird.

I want to relate to the nerdy guys here because I am basically a big nerd. I run an IT division at a big bank, former software engineer, avid gamer and collector of comic books - you name it.

However, there is absolutely NO similarity in my life to the nerd social behavior and attitudes. I've always been popular, friendly, outgoing and well spoken. I never pined after an unavailable chick and I've never been bullied or harassed in my life. I'm actually really good at flirting and my wife constantly elbows me because I tend to do it unconciously to cute baristas at coffee shops.

cum hoc ergo propter hoc?

(shiat, I even make stupid quotes in latin?)

Anyway, I guess I am just annoyed at the continuing implication that low social skills and a love of science, role playing and comic books go hand in hand.

It reminds of that article about that guy who was the world champion MtG player and basically got nerd-shamed by some stupid Gawker writer because he didn't treat the fact that this hobbies made him some sort of pariah as important enough to put into his online dating profile. What a bunch of crap!
2012-11-27 10:03:27 PM  
1 votes:

Butthurted: You have a point, but what if you really like the oranges the first store has? I mean what if the first store has huge, juicy, ripe oranges and the other stores have shriveled, desiccated oranges with nasty seeds and. gasp, bugs? Sometimes, when you find the right oranges, you really don't want another store's oranges. I mean even if you decided to go to store two and purchase their inferior, pulpy, moldy oranges, you would never really enjoy them because you would be thinking about store one's oranges the whole time. Than a few weeks later, as you are walking down the street with the nasty, sour, unripe orange bits still stuck between your teeth, you will see another guy, a real scum bag guy that you knew from that time you went to a party with your cousin in that town 20 minutes from your town, and he will be walking out of store one with YOUR ORANGES!!!! Sometimes you have to be patient in order to get the oranges that you want.


Dude, there is no such thing as a special orange. That's just chemicals in your brain tricking you. There are better oranges and worse oranges, but anything you can get from one orange, you can get from a different orange somewhere else. Oranges just aren't special. Don't put oranges on a pedestal.
2012-11-27 10:00:19 PM  
1 votes:

untaken_name: wedun: what? Hello no. Your an adult, not a petulant child. You don't throw a tantrum because you didn't get what you wanted.

Look, if you go to the store to buy some oranges, and they don't have any oranges, do you leave or do you wait around hoping that someday they'll have oranges? If you're a man, you go to another store and get some oranges. If you're a wimp-ass pussy you wait around with a hangdog sheepish expression on your face hinting around that you want oranges for months until they get sick of it and kick you out. Which would you rather be? Your choice.


You have a point, but what if you really like the oranges the first store has? I mean what if the first store has huge, juicy, ripe oranges and the other stores have shriveled, desiccated oranges with nasty seeds and. gasp, bugs? Sometimes, when you find the right oranges, you really don't want another store's oranges. I mean even if you decided to go to store two and purchase their inferior, pulpy, moldy oranges, you would never really enjoy them because you would be thinking about store one's oranges the whole time. Than a few weeks later, as you are walking down the street with the nasty, sour, unripe orange bits still stuck between your teeth, you will see another guy, a real scum bag guy that you knew from that time you went to a party with your cousin in that town 20 minutes from your town, and he will be walking out of store one with YOUR ORANGES!!!! Sometimes you have to be patient in order to get the oranges that you want.
2012-11-27 09:53:53 PM  
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: I used to think Fark was a place where rational people came to joke around, but apparently it's been overrun by misogynists and assholes.


Those are the Fark Independents of the Politics Tab. Let us not summon them here, lest they show up.
2012-11-27 09:53:22 PM  
1 votes:

wedun: what? Hello no. Your an adult, not a petulant child. You don't throw a tantrum because you didn't get what you wanted.


Look, if you go to the store to buy some oranges, and they don't have any oranges, do you leave or do you wait around hoping that someday they'll have oranges? If you're a man, you go to another store and get some oranges. If you're a wimp-ass pussy you wait around with a hangdog sheepish expression on your face hinting around that you want oranges for months until they get sick of it and kick you out. Which would you rather be? Your choice.
2012-11-27 09:51:24 PM  
1 votes:

pxlboy: Kuroshin: Gunther: Am I the only one who thought it was an interesting article? You hit 25 or so, and one night stands suddenly seem like too much work.

This is Fark. How many one-night-stands do you think the average Farker has under their belt?

/I keed
//but only a little

We're not all basement-dwelling neckbeards lacking basic hygiene and the ability to communicate with the opposite (or same) sex.


THIS DOES NOT FIT THE NARRATIVE! ABORT! ABORT!

/besides, that's Reddit
2012-11-27 09:46:29 PM  
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: What a dickish thing to do. You're willing to throw away a friendship because of your own selfishness?


Aren't they also willing to do so? Selfishly keeping their sex to themselves instead of giving it up to save the friendship? If they don't care, why should I?
2012-11-27 09:42:52 PM  
1 votes:
Exactly how much action am I going to get if I leave my copy of "A Natural History of Rape" out on the table?
2012-11-27 09:40:01 PM  
1 votes:
Ok the 'guy friend desperately trying to get out of the friendzone' thing is total crap. I have tons of guy friends and none of them are interested in me romantically. Everything is just a big fat myth based on a few unique situations here and there.
2012-11-27 09:36:03 PM  
1 votes:

Need_MindBleach: If you grew balls and made your intentions known from the start, you wouldn't wind up in the "friendzone."


Some people never learn to flirt/make their intentions clear. They only know how to treat women like friends.

Or so I hear. Real tragedy, supposedly.
2012-11-27 09:30:32 PM  
1 votes:

Gawdzila: Sometimes we DO just want to slut around, and there's nothing wrong with that.


i.imgur.com
2012-11-27 09:30:23 PM  
1 votes:
I'd much rather have a meaningful relationship instead of casual sex.

That said, if casual sex comes around, I'm sure as hell not going to turn it down.
2012-11-27 09:15:29 PM  
1 votes:

RoyBatty: The guy tried to kill his girlfriend.
As a professor, the guy took a group of students on a weekend trip and slept with four of the girls.
As a professor, the guy regularly slept with his students.
He repeatedly had sex with a woman, and helped her deceive her husband into believing it was his when there was a very good chance it was Hugo's kid. He has tried to justify this continuing and ongoing deception by saying he wasn't ready to be a father.


What's his Fark handle?
2012-11-27 09:12:50 PM  
1 votes:
I'm asexual, so I have no choice. :-|
2012-11-27 09:12:22 PM  
1 votes:
Casanova would have never gotten laid if he had gone by the English version of his name, Jack Newhouse.

Chicks are suckers for that Dago shiat.

/Changed my name from Whitehouse to Casablanca...oh man...it really works.
2012-11-27 09:11:49 PM  
1 votes:

Ishkur:

And they must be lascivious, nasty, filthy little cum dumpsters willing to deepthroat a full load




farm2.staticflickr.com
2012-11-27 09:11:13 PM  
1 votes:

Ishkur: fta: The new research about young men and romance is hard to accept because the emerging trend of "caring, romantic boys" doesn't gibe with our experiences of an older generation of men. [link goes to stat about teen pregnancies being down]

There is no trend. Teen pregnancies are down because of the availability of contraception and accessibility of pornography, not because teen boys are caring and understanding. In fact, the reverse is true, and again, its because of pornography:

Online porn has effectively desensitized teenagers from understanding what true intimacy really is. It has made teenage girls more experimentative at a time when they probably shouldn't be and it has made boys a lot more misogynistic and demanding.

There has been a noted rise in teen girls seeking their first sexual gratification from their friends (the so-called lesbian phase) because all the boys in their schools are absolute monsters. Virgin teen girls are nervous and apprehensive and vulnerable when they become sexually active. They want their first experience to be with someone they trust, and teenage boys seem to be not that interested in intimacy or anything meaningful. They want to get off and move on, in the most demeaning way possible, just like the videos they watch every night.

By the time they get to college, girls are basically competing with Redtube and Bangbus. They must put out or the guys don't care. And they must be lascivious, nasty, filthy little cum dumpsters willing to deepthroat a full load or no guy will pay any attention to them. It's all very cruel and atavistic and probably would not be so extreme without such easy access to hardcore porn as part of one's sexual education.


Go on...
2012-11-27 09:07:40 PM  
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CygnusDarius: Guy: See, I really like you. Let's date, and see what happens

Girl: Sorry, but, I'd like us to remain friends


My advice in this situation?

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Just walk away...
2012-11-27 08:54:49 PM  
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: Women are liars. They say they want a nice guy, but they don't. They want assholes who treat them like shiat. Then they come running to me over and over 'why is he so mean to me?' 'why can't I find a guy who treats me nice like you do?' Then the very next day they're back with the asshole.

You gonna tell me that they are the ones who are getting duped by Casanovas?


This is when you put it in their pooper and run like hell the next day.
2012-11-27 08:53:38 PM  
1 votes:
Women are liars. They say they want a nice guy, but they don't. They want assholes who treat them like shiat. Then they come running to me over and over 'why is he so mean to me?' 'why can't I find a guy who treats me nice like you do?' Then the very next day they're back with the asshole.

You gonna tell me that they are the ones who are getting duped by Casanovas?
2012-11-27 06:09:33 PM  
1 votes:
I wouldn't last long in a relationship if the sex wasn't casual.
 
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