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(Jezebel)   "The Casanova myth is so deeply ingrained that people are convinced that boys who claim to want relationships rather than casual sex are either incredibly rare or full of crap." or are trying to claw their way out of the "Friend Zone"   (jezebel.com) divider line 387
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2012-11-27 10:53:00 PM  

wedun: CygnusDarius: AverageAmericanGuy: What a dickish thing to do. You're willing to throw away a friendship because of your own selfishness?

It hurts, it reaaaaally hurts, did this only twice, but burning bridges -while sad and horrifying as it is- is the only way out. The last friendzone festered the friendship.

what? Hello no. Your an adult, not a petulant child. You don't throw a tantrum because you didn't get what you wanted.


How is walking away the same as throwing a tantrum?
 
2012-11-27 10:54:52 PM  

GoldSpider: Always enjoy this classic. Meet a girl, hit it off, take her out on a few dates (I pay for everything, of course), ask her thoughts on "where this is going"...

"I'm not looking to date anyone right now."

[nettimes.us image 220x185]


Better than being strung along and taken for 1/3 of your life savings!
 
2012-11-27 10:57:22 PM  

KiwDaWabbit: Better than being strung along and taken for 1/3 of your life savings!


That's why I ask. There's dignity in being up front with one's intentions, I think, and "playing it cool" as my friends call it just wastes time and money.
 
2012-11-27 10:59:34 PM  

Gunther: Telos: I think "naturally monogamous" is really, really rare. Like I said, if they are really monogamous why are they drooling over a magazine cover?

I don't think that's really a fair question. Preferring a monogamous relationship to a polyamorous relationship doesn't mean you completely lack sexual desire for anyone other than your partner.

Telos: How many people do you know that have only had one sexual partner in their entire lives?

Many people, possibly most people in fact, are serially monogamous - they go from one monogamous relationship to the next without having multiple partners at any one time. With both these questions you're redefining the term "monogamous" so narrowly that nobody fits it, then claiming that proves that nobody is monogamous..

One more time: Assuming that everyone is like you and only pretends not to think the same way as you is possibly the worst mistake you can make, not just about sex but about everything. You're looking at people in monogamous relationships and assuming that you know their own desires better than they do - that if they'd just be honest with themselves, they'd all be happy polyamorists like you. It's a really childish way of thinking.




Let's go back a bit, where you said "....doesn't mean you completely lack sexual desire for anyone other than your partner."

There you go. If someone has sexual desire for people other than their partner, they're not really monogamous. They are simply choosing to act in a monogamous fashion.

I can choose not to eat meat too, but that doesn't make me a herbivore. It's a choice I'm making, not my biology.

My point is that biologically, naturally we aren't monogamous. Most people in our society CHOOSE monogamy, and to a large extent I think that's the influence of our culture and of religion. There are perfectly valid reasons for monogamy, but for most people it's just the way it is. 3 years ago I'd probably have been on your side, as I couldn't even conceive of any other way of doing things.
 
2012-11-27 10:59:44 PM  

balisane: I promise that you'll live if they say no. Only you can make it awkward after that: they'll probably forget all about it in a couple of weeks. I've definitely had friendships survive it.


But I think i'm the type to want to date someone that has the balls to ask me out. Not only ask me out, but do it in a funny or unique way like start a political debate or argument with me and then ask me out for coffee as we're screaming at each other about how Romney's folders full of women may really be his other wives and how he secretly plans to turn our country into the "The United States of Mormon."

Oh dear god...

I should date a farker
 
2012-11-27 11:00:28 PM  

EsteeFlwrPot: Gawdzila: EsteeFlwrPot: Nah, a lot of them are just platonic friends.

For many guys this doesn't necessarily preclude sex.
I have had quite a few platonic friends that I'd have totally penis'd if I had been given the go-ahead.


EsteeFlwrPot: I really doubt they would ever just want to sleep with me, they definitely would have said something by now or made a move.

Eh, I kinda doubt it. If they aren't romantically interested they'd probably never ask just to keep things from getting "weird", but it doesn't mean that they haven't thought about it or would be a willing partner.

You know... i've been having a dry season, so to speak, and I have been thinking of who to have fun with until I find relationship material. I just never thought any of my guy friends would be interested in that

untaken_name: EsteeFlwrPot: Nah, a lot of them are just platonic friends. I really doubt they would ever just want to sleep with me, they definitely would have said something by now or made a move.

Come on to them. Tell them you've always wanted to sleep with them, but never had the courage to say anything. See how many "aren't interested". Those are the gay ones.

But what if they say no? Then it'll be embarrassing for me


Why would it be embarrassing to find out some of your friends are gay? :P
 
2012-11-27 11:01:30 PM  

EsteeFlwrPot: I should date a farker


chan.catiewayne.com
 
2012-11-27 11:02:12 PM  

GoldSpider: Always enjoy this classic. Meet a girl, hit it off, take her out on a few dates (I pay for everything, of course), ask her thoughts on "where this is going"...

"I'm not looking to date anyone right now."


When what she means is, "I don't want to date you right now"
 
2012-11-27 11:02:57 PM  

findthefish: The friend zone sucks. Don't ever be that guy in the friend zone. As the good man recommended above. Walk away.


I feel so bad. I always had a large number of male friends during my young adulthood (late 1990's, early 2000's)...before the term "friendzone" existed. Around 2004, my boyfriend informed me that practically no straight guy is ever "just friends"; they're just hanging around hoping that the girl (read: me) will finally sleep with them.
 
2012-11-27 11:03:29 PM  

Gijick: Isn't it possible for really good friends to fall in love? Or do all romances start with a guy saying "I'll never be your friend, but I'll fark you like a champ, hottie?"


No. You could be both. Just don't say you want one when you really want the other.
 
2012-11-27 11:05:27 PM  

EsteeFlwrPot: balisane: I promise that you'll live if they say no. Only you can make it awkward after that: they'll probably forget all about it in a couple of weeks. I've definitely had friendships survive it.

But I think i'm the type to want to date someone that has the balls to ask me out. Not only ask me out, but do it in a funny or unique way like start a political debate or argument with me and then ask me out for coffee as we're screaming at each other about how Romney's folders full of women may really be his other wives and how he secretly plans to turn our country into the "The United States of Mormon."

Oh dear god...

I should date a farker


Look, all your male friends (and probably a couple of your female friends) want to sleep with you. So how about this: Let's get together for a few drinks, and I'll be the first! ;)
 
2012-11-27 11:06:05 PM  

whatshisname: When what she means is, "I don't want to date you right now"


And that's fine, so be a grown-up and be truthful.
 
2012-11-27 11:08:31 PM  

untaken_name: EsteeFlwrPot: I should date a farker

[chan.catiewayne.com image 467x337]


No I totally would! I just have to find someone thats for me, thats all. But more relevant to the article and to this situation in general- I really dont think most guys are friends with girls they secretly have feelings for. After a few weeks of hanging out eventually you're bound to say something and thats not enough time to really be friendzoned in the first place.
 
2012-11-27 11:08:54 PM  

spaten: Telos: spaten: Meh...

I have an open relationship...

As long as you have ground rules and open communication; it can work.

/On the road for work, too much.
//Problems of 20 year olds or the myth that humans are monogamous.
///Go to strip clubs with my woman.

Sigh.

I've pretty much concluded I'm polyamorous, but only after getting into a monogamous relationship with a woman I still love.

Not much hope of her coming to that conclusion. She won't even let me go to a strip club. :(

Bring it up subtlety, ask her what her fantasies are, watch or read pron together...Make it an intimate thing that doesn't make her jealous. Put the seed in her mind and let her come around.

You can't change the way she thinks, but if you really love her, minimize her insecurities and reassure her that she is the one you will come home to.

If that doesn't work, cut your losses and move on.


That ship has sailed. Long, complicated story but the short version is we know our time together is limited and we're just trying to enjoy it a little longer.

Thing is, as adamant as she is about not being polyamorous sometimes she does or says something that makes me wonder. For instance she's absolutely in love with Don Draper, who ironically enough is the character that convinced me I could be happy in a polyamorous lifestyle. Or whenver someone cheats in a move her only reaction is how that was obviously the only thing that could have happened. Although I tend to read into things, so I try not to think about it.
 
2012-11-27 11:09:59 PM  

GoldSpider: Always enjoy this classic. Meet a girl, hit it off, take her out on a few dates (I pay for everything, of course), ask her thoughts on "where this is going"...

"I'm not looking to date anyone right now."

[nettimes.us image 220x185]


See now, that's farked up. The girl who did that was a biatch. If you both pay, she has no reason to think its a date unless you've said so, but if you pay, it's a date.

/female

Now, this puts me in a tricky position that I've yet to completely figure out on the first few dates (I've just winged it so far). I have a job. I don't need the guy to pay for everything, and I don't want to make him think I'm going to use up all his money. Yet, at the same time, I don't want him interpreting my offering to split the bill as a sign I'm not interested. What to do.
 
2012-11-27 11:12:04 PM  
Let me tell you a story about two guys, Dan and Stu

Dan is 32, short, a biatchubby, with glasses and a bad leg that makes him limp a bit. Wears alot of tie-dyed shirts and generally has very little fashion sense.

Stu is 34, tall, lean and while slightly balding, not unattractive and has a bigger dick than Dan.

Dan has had flings and relationships and now a marriage with a like-minded woman.

Stu has never had a serious relationship in his life, doesn't have a clue how to talk to women and when they do show any interest at all, clings to them like they were the last floating timber of a sinking ship.

By the way, both of them are huge nerds, into video games and other various nerdy endeavours

it all comes down to some guys have social skills to deal with women, and some don't

/Dan's wife
 
2012-11-27 11:13:43 PM  

dopekitty74: Let me tell you a story about two guys, Dan and Stu

Dan is 32, short, a biatchubby, with glasses and a bad leg that makes him limp a bit. Wears alot of tie-dyed shirts and generally has very little fashion sense.

Stu is 34, tall, lean and while slightly balding, not unattractive and has a bigger dick than Dan.

Dan has had flings and relationships and now a marriage with a like-minded woman.

Stu has never had a serious relationship in his life, doesn't have a clue how to talk to women and when they do show any interest at all, clings to them like they were the last floating timber of a sinking ship.

By the way, both of them are huge nerds, into video games and other various nerdy endeavours

it all comes down to some guys have social skills to deal with women, and some don't

/Dan's wife


And you know the size of Stu's dick?..
 
2012-11-27 11:13:45 PM  

EsteeFlwrPot: But what if they say no? Then it'll be embarrassing for me


Eh, you don't have to present it like a yes or no question. If you just find an occasion to have a nonchalant conversation with one of em about how you're having trouble getting laid, toss some subtle hints and flirtations, and see what happens. And if nothing comes of it, don't worry about it. balisane is right -- if you don't make it weird, they probably won't either.
 
2012-11-27 11:14:48 PM  

EsteeFlwrPot: untaken_name: EsteeFlwrPot: I should date a farker

[chan.catiewayne.com image 467x337]

No I totally would! I just have to find someone thats for me, thats all. But more relevant to the article and to this situation in general- I really dont think most guys are friends with girls they secretly have feelings for. After a few weeks of hanging out eventually you're bound to say something and thats not enough time to really be friendzoned in the first place.


I made a longer post earlier about it, but one of the problems is the kind of guy who becomes friends with a girl he likes usually ISN'T the kind of guy who is comfortable or good at asking women out. There's also a difference between liking someone and just finding them attractive. Many of your male friends want to sleep with you. Most won't bring it up for various reasons, like thinking they would need to be in a relationship with you and not wanting that part.
 
2012-11-27 11:15:30 PM  
Many men i know give in to promiscuity as a last resort to find any partner willing to take them, i do despise the author, but he's still largely right, the balls in the woman's court (lucifer our lord innuendo).

On the same hand, i've known too many women looking to fark as many guys as possible, so my perspective is skewed, i blame it on growing up in humorously liberal territory.

I'm not transposing, this is my reality. Maybe i need to finally move red state, who knows. But i like it when people get along..
 
2012-11-27 11:15:31 PM  
Heh the friendzone doesn't bother me at all. That just means that she isn't the one for me and I can hang out and hit on her friends. Or she can be my wingwoman at a bar. If a chick isn't into you just accept it. Life is too short to worry about stuff like that.

\it also can be funny when they get jealous of other girls hanging out with me.
 
2012-11-27 11:15:33 PM  

GoldSpider: That's why I ask. There's dignity in being up front with one's intentions, I think, and "playing it cool" as my friends call it just wastes time and money.


Oh, I asked all the time throughout the relationship I mentioned earlier, because one thing was being said (or not said, but it was more or less demanded that I assumed it) and, to me, her actions weren't consistent with someone who was supposedly in love. If I ever questioned it, I was met with resistance, anger, and guilt tripping.

And sure, I was a moron for trying to keep going. I know that. I'm not perfect. I also knew (know) that I'm one of those who isn't terribly desirable to begin with, so I started weighing the lack of options versus what I had and that is how you wind up with an unhealthy and unfulfilling relationship.

So, uhh, yeah. TMI.

We're talking about two completely different stages, thought, and up front, I agree. It's much easier to dissolve things when you don't have all that much invested in it.
 
2012-11-27 11:16:06 PM  

dopekitty74: Let me tell you a story about two guys, Dan and Stu

Dan is 32, short, a biatchubby, with glasses and a bad leg that makes him limp a bit. Wears alot of tie-dyed shirts and generally has very little fashion sense.

Stu is 34, tall, lean and while slightly balding, not unattractive and has a bigger dick than Dan.

Dan has had flings and relationships and now a marriage with a like-minded woman.

Stu has never had a serious relationship in his life, doesn't have a clue how to talk to women and when they do show any interest at all, clings to them like they were the last floating timber of a sinking ship.

By the way, both of them are huge nerds, into video games and other various nerdy endeavours

it all comes down to some guys have social skills to deal with women, and some don't

/Dan's wife


Dammit.. Filter .. My hubby is NOT a biatchubby, he's chubby, but just a bit.. :)
 
2012-11-27 11:16:22 PM  

balisane: And the girls who actually want that sweet, awkward boyfriend? Not hot, so nobody wants them.

Dudes aren't the only people who get friendzoned, alas.


What you are saying is true. I have had a few of my female friends (that I had no interest in being in a relationship or even sleeping with) awkardly asking me out or tell me when they are really drunk how long they have had a crush on me.

I normally would just try ignore that they have said anything, because I really value our friendship, and they are always there for me when I get screwed over by some chick who I thought was awesome, but turned out to be an absolute biatch.

For some reason I only ever seem to end up dating biatches
 
2012-11-27 11:17:12 PM  

KiwDaWabbit: spaten: Bring it up subtlety, ask her what her fantasies are, watch or read pron together...Make it an intimate thing that doesn't make her jealous. Put the seed in her mind and let her come around.

You can't change the way she thinks, but if you really love her, minimize her insecurities and reassure her that she is the one you will come home to.

If that doesn't work, cut your losses and move on.

I really think that's sound advice in general.

However, anecdotally, as one could imagine with my prior post in this thread, I completely failed and botched stuff like that with the ex.

As it turned out, a self-admitted sex addict ultimately became like the Sahara around me. If that doesn't fark with your head, not much will.


It is a minefield... Both for guys and gals... That is why I think communication is key.
 
2012-11-27 11:17:17 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: dopekitty74: Let me tell you a story about two guys, Dan and Stu

Dan is 32, short, a biatchubby, with glasses and a bad leg that makes him limp a bit. Wears alot of tie-dyed shirts and generally has very little fashion sense.

Stu is 34, tall, lean and while slightly balding, not unattractive and has a bigger dick than Dan.

Dan has had flings and relationships and now a marriage with a like-minded woman.

Stu has never had a serious relationship in his life, doesn't have a clue how to talk to women and when they do show any interest at all, clings to them like they were the last floating timber of a sinking ship.

By the way, both of them are huge nerds, into video games and other various nerdy endeavours

it all comes down to some guys have social skills to deal with women, and some don't

/Dan's wife

And you know the size of Stu's dick?..


They're best friends. Dan has seen it at some point and told me.
 
2012-11-27 11:18:29 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: dopekitty74: Let me tell you a story about two guys, Dan and Stu

Dan is 32, short, a biatchubby, with glasses and a bad leg that makes him limp a bit. Wears alot of tie-dyed shirts and generally has very little fashion sense.

Stu is 34, tall, lean and while slightly balding, not unattractive and has a bigger dick than Dan.

Dan has had flings and relationships and now a marriage with a like-minded woman.

Stu has never had a serious relationship in his life, doesn't have a clue how to talk to women and when they do show any interest at all, clings to them like they were the last floating timber of a sinking ship.

By the way, both of them are huge nerds, into video games and other various nerdy endeavours

it all comes down to some guys have social skills to deal with women, and some don't

/Dan's wife

And you know the size of Stu's dick?..


I cant stop laughing
 
2012-11-27 11:19:21 PM  

spaten: It is a minefield... Both for guys and gals... That is why I think communication is key.


That's very true. Of course, I tried that all the time as well. I gather that it works a hell of a lot better when you're compatible to begin with.
 
2012-11-27 11:20:44 PM  

Tellingthem: Heh the friendzone doesn't bother me at all. That just means that she isn't the one for me and I can hang out and hit on her friends. Or she can be my wingwoman at a bar. If a chick isn't into you just accept it. Life is too short to worry about stuff like that.

\it also can be funny when they get jealous of other girls hanging out with me.



The wingwoman bit actually works well, in my experience. Women tend to trust guys who show up at a bar with female friends.
 
2012-11-27 11:21:42 PM  

brap: Hug Me To Completion is my Teddy Ruxpin tribute band.


Hug Me To Completion... hmmm... there's something... vaguely familiar about that name...
 
2012-11-27 11:22:16 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: And you know the size of Stu's dick?..


www.djtykeone.ch

"So, so groovy"
 
2012-11-27 11:23:08 PM  

KiwDaWabbit: spaten: It is a minefield... Both for guys and gals... That is why I think communication is key.

That's very true. Of course, I tried that all the time as well. I gather that it works a hell of a lot better when you're compatible to begin with.


Exactly.
 
2012-11-27 11:25:15 PM  

spaten: KiwDaWabbit: spaten: It is a minefield... Both for guys and gals... That is why I think communication is key.

That's very true. Of course, I tried that all the time as well. I gather that it works a hell of a lot better when you're compatible to begin with.


Exactly, but you can be compatible with more then one person...
 
2012-11-27 11:25:52 PM  

EsteeFlwrPot: untaken_name: EsteeFlwrPot: I should date a farker

[chan.catiewayne.com image 467x337]

No I totally would! I just have to find someone thats for me, thats all. But more relevant to the article and to this situation in general- I really dont think most guys are friends with girls they secretly have feelings for. After a few weeks of hanging out eventually you're bound to say something and thats not enough time to really be friendzoned in the first place.


Ok, I'm confused. Were we talking about friends who want to be in a committed relationship with you or friends that want to have sex with you? Because I was talking about friends who want to have sex with you and I'm not sure where "feelings" come into that. Unless horny counts as a feeling. You can either listen to all the males in here who are clearly telling you that if you are attractive, your straight male friends want to bone you, or you can believe that they don't because you don't think they do. But I guarantee you that guys know more about what other guys want, at least in general, than you do. We've experienced it ourselves. I have female friends. The only ones I would not bone are the unattractive ones and the ones I've boned already. I'm not saying I represent all males, but I know I speak for most of them.
 
2012-11-27 11:27:35 PM  

dopekitty74: it all comes down to some guys have social skills to deal with women, and some don't


Great story.
 
2012-11-27 11:28:10 PM  

EsteeFlwrPot: Oh dear god...

I should date a farker


Tease ;)
 
2012-11-27 11:28:25 PM  

untaken_name: I'm not saying I represent all males, but I know I speak for most of them.


Nailed it.

/or maybe not, depending on your angle in this thread.
 
2012-11-27 11:29:20 PM  

untaken_name: EsteeFlwrPot: untaken_name: EsteeFlwrPot: I should date a farker

[chan.catiewayne.com image 467x337]

No I totally would! I just have to find someone thats for me, thats all. But more relevant to the article and to this situation in general- I really dont think most guys are friends with girls they secretly have feelings for. After a few weeks of hanging out eventually you're bound to say something and thats not enough time to really be friendzoned in the first place.

Ok, I'm confused. Were we talking about friends who want to be in a committed relationship with you or friends that want to have sex with you? Because I was talking about friends who want to have sex with you and I'm not sure where "feelings" come into that. Unless horny counts as a feeling. You can either listen to all the males in here who are clearly telling you that if you are attractive, your straight male friends want to bone you, or you can believe that they don't because you don't think they do. But I guarantee you that guys know more about what other guys want, at least in general, than you do. We've experienced it ourselves. I have female friends. The only ones I would not bone are the unattractive ones and the ones I've boned already. I'm not saying I represent all males, but I know I speak for most of them.


I understand but why I just dont understand why they wouldn't have tried to bone me already. I mean I guess they dont want to ruin the friendship.. you know what, im going to test this out. im gonna hit on one of them and see what happens.

/sidenote, i do want to look into farkers for dating purposes.
//how would i do that?
 
2012-11-27 11:30:56 PM  

EsteeFlwrPot: /sidenote, i do want to look into farkers for dating purposes.
//how would i do that?


'round here, I think the standard mating call is "BIE".
 
2012-11-27 11:31:02 PM  

EsteeFlwrPot:

/sidenote, i do want to look into farkers for dating purposes.
//how would i do that?


EIP. Applications accepted.
 
2012-11-27 11:31:39 PM  

EsteeFlwrPot: /sidenote, i do want to look into farkers for dating purposes.
//how would i do that?


You have to use the Fark mating call.

'WHY DON'T YOU HAVE EIP?'
 
2012-11-27 11:34:01 PM  

GoldSpider: 'round here, I think the standard mating call is "BIE".


untaken_name: EIP. Applications accepted.


AverageAmericanGuy: You have to use the Fark mating call.

'WHY DON'T YOU HAVE EIP?'


We're quite a sad bunch in this thread, aren't we?
 
2012-11-27 11:34:59 PM  

GoldSpider: EsteeFlwrPot: /sidenote, i do want to look into farkers for dating purposes.
//how would i do that?

'round here, I think the standard mating call is "BIE".


Hell most of the time just saying that you're a female will have guys attention around here.

\still don't get the BIE thing
\\google image = boobs on demand (why beg when boobs are a click away?)
 
2012-11-27 11:35:09 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy:
What a dickish thing to do. You're willing to throw away a friendship because of your own selfishness?


The first thing you gotta understand is that being in the friendzone does not equal being friends with a girl. Both parties are being very selfish and deceptive. Misery and resentment are the usual result. Best to be up front and be prepared to deal with it.
 
2012-11-27 11:35:44 PM  

GoldSpider: GoldSpider: 'round here, I think the standard mating call is "BIE".

untaken_name: EIP. Applications accepted.

AverageAmericanGuy: You have to use the Fark mating call.

'WHY DON'T YOU HAVE EIP?'

We're quite a sad bunch in this thread, aren't we?


Not me. I have hope. One day the girl of my dreams will stop dating that asshole and she'll realize that I'm the one she's been sharing her hopes and fears and dreams with and then she'll fall in love with me.
 
2012-11-27 11:37:53 PM  

Tellingthem: GoldSpider: EsteeFlwrPot: /sidenote, i do want to look into farkers for dating purposes.
//how would i do that?

'round here, I think the standard mating call is "BIE".

Hell most of the time just saying that you're a female will have guys attention around here.

\still don't get the BIE thing
\\google image = boobs on demand (why beg when boobs are a click away?)


Cuz they're the boobs of girls you find intellectually engaging or funny or just cool, as opposed to girls you've never met and likely never will, not even on a site like fark?
 
2012-11-27 11:38:24 PM  

Telos: There you go. If someone has sexual desire for people other than their partner, they're not really monogamous.


And you're still defining the word so narrowly that it doesn't have any meaning.
 
2012-11-27 11:38:45 PM  

GoldSpider: We're quite a sad bunch in this thread, aren't we?


In this thread? No. In general, likely.
 
2012-11-27 11:38:51 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Not me. I have hope. One day the girl of my dreams will stop dating that asshole and she'll realize that I'm the one she's been sharing her hopes and fears and dreams with and then she'll fall in love with me.


Lulz.

I'm still enjoying the afterglow from my Overachiever of the Year award I won from a little firecracker of a ginger marathon runner months ago.

/realize she doesn't have a soul.
//everyone has a weakness
 
2012-11-27 11:40:05 PM  

Tellingthem: GoldSpider: EsteeFlwrPot: /sidenote, i do want to look into farkers for dating purposes.
//how would i do that?

'round here, I think the standard mating call is "BIE".

Hell most of the time just saying that you're a female will have guys attention around here.

\still don't get the BIE thing
\\google image = boobs on demand (why beg when boobs are a click away?)


It's like sandwiches. You can go to the store and get a sandwich. You can go to a homeless shelter and get a sandwich for free. Or you can get someone to make you a sandwich. Which are the best sandwiches? Depends on your preferences.
 
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