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(Ars Technica)   The Internet's most hated lawyer finally gets served in free speech lawsuit. How about some nice oatmeal, Charles?   (arstechnica.com) divider line 37
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2012-11-27 04:54:21 PM  
Carreon is one of those people who wouldn't do well in post apocalyptic society.
 
2012-11-27 05:05:08 PM  
*Yawn*

Asshole successfully does something asshole-y. BFD.
 
2012-11-27 06:41:10 PM  
So the big story is he gets fined $300 for avoiding the server?

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2012-11-27 07:08:55 PM  
Can someone speak to me like a 3 year old and explain what the fark I'm reading please?
 
2012-11-27 07:11:35 PM  

styckx: Can someone speak to me like a 3 year old and explain what the fark I'm reading please?


Lawsuit troll gets sued.
 
2012-11-27 07:13:32 PM  
www.the-games-blog.com

I was hating internet lawyers before it was cool.
 
2012-11-27 07:14:12 PM  
This guy makes me want to gag his wife to death with my cock in front of him. Also, take the Ramones shirt off douche. You are NOT worthy.

cdn.arstechnica.net
 
2012-11-27 07:19:37 PM  
Do they not have substitutional service in the US/Arizona?

Up here (Alberta), I've (or know someone that has) served people through facebook, a notice in a community centre, and an ad in the local newspaper.

Someone being a tool about service? *Boom* ex parte application for substitutional service, or to have service declared effective--which apparently happened, but far too late. Some of the delay seems like a failing of counsel.
 
2012-11-27 07:27:43 PM  

The Angry Hand of God: This guy makes me want to gag his wife to death with my cock in front of him. Also, take the Ramones shirt off douche. You are NOT worthy.


And his flag is backwards.
 
2012-11-27 07:32:41 PM  

styckx: Can someone speak to me like a 3 year old and explain what the fark I'm reading please?


Yeah...

I came here to say that.
 
2012-11-27 07:47:06 PM  
After reading the headline, I was expecting Jack Thompson or even Orly Taitz. I've never heard of this guy.

Anyone want to do a tl;dr version of who this guy is?
 
2012-11-27 07:48:04 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: [www.the-games-blog.com image 468x610]

I was hating internet lawyers before it was cool.


Yeah, really. I thought the article was going to be JT for sure.
 
2012-11-27 08:05:01 PM  
Jack Thompson, old school internet lawyer hate? Please.

I got one of the original Cantor and Siegal green card spam emails. I've been hating internet lawyers since before half of you were born.
 
2012-11-27 08:13:06 PM  

BlackPete: After reading the headline, I was expecting Jack Thompson or even Orly Taitz. I've never heard of this guy.

Anyone want to do a tl;dr version of who this guy is?


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2012-11-27 08:38:01 PM  
orly taitz?

*checks*

meh
 
2012-11-27 08:44:12 PM  
Nothing sadder than a balding middle-aged guy trying to look cool in sunglasses and a Ramones....sorry....a Joey Ramone....shirt.
 
2012-11-27 09:49:56 PM  
Tim RObbins is a lawyer?
 
2012-11-27 10:07:52 PM  

BlackPete: After reading the headline, I was expecting Jack Thompson or even Orly Taitz. I've never heard of this guy.

Anyone want to do a tl;dr version of who this guy is?


This guy got his ass handed to him by The Oatmeal. Repeatedly. He tried to pull the usual shyster intimidation shiat, got called out for it, and so he kept escalating it, each time getting his ass handed to him until he finally withdrew his spurious lawsuits and walked away. The trouble is, of course, that thanks to the persistence of the Internet, his name is essentially mud and he's become fodder for satirists.

Why this guy hasn't been disbarred is beyond me.
 
2012-11-27 10:08:15 PM  

zimmerman: styckx: Can someone speak to me like a 3 year old and explain what the fark I'm reading please?

Yeah...

I came here to say that.


Be glad to:

a) The author of a comic called "The Oatmeal" posts letters from the derptard lawyer (that will be the subject of the thread) which are basically threatening to sue The Oatmeal's creator for asking another site (that the derptard lawyer) represents to plz take down stuff they did not have permission to copy. Much lulz are had at expense of derptard lawyer's attempts at essentially an extortion game.

b) Collossal derptard lawyer (who is a troll and a half) tries to sue The Oatmeal for making fun of him, fails.

c) A second cartoonist (who is a fan of The Oatmeal) starts making parody comics making fun of collossal derptard lawyer.

d) Collossal derptard lawyer tries to, in turn:
i) Sue the second cartoonist for trademark violation (the lawyer is such a collossal douchecanoe that he trademarked his own name) in yet ANOTHER extortion attempt
ii) Tries to get the guy fired from his job at a Walgreen's (claiming he was doing non-work stuff at work)
iii) In general, tries to make the second cartoonist's life a living hell.

e) Second cartoonist gets some help from lawyers from a number of well known free speech organisations, and (in layman's terms) basically asks the judge to rule that the second cartoonist did nothing wrong (because you can legally make fun of someone) and to throw the case out and to legally declare the derptard lawyer a Douchecanoe of the First Order. (Of funny note here--one of the lawyers who is helping out the second cartoonist also defended Larry Flynt's famous parody advert taking the piss of Jerry Falwell. Second Cartoonist Is In Good Hands.)

f) Lawyers for second cartoonist try to send notices to the derptard lawyer to the effect "Hey, we're suing your ass for damages because you're being a douchecanoe". Derptard lawyer goes to some extreme, and quite possibly not legal, and definitely non-lawyerlike means of avoiding getting the "we're suing you" papers in hopes he can make the case go away:
i) When they tried to mail him the "we're filing suit" papers via certified mail, he mailed them back in envelopes.
ii) When the lawyers for the second cartoonist hired someone to deliver the papers in person, the first time they were refused and the second and third times...well, the derptard lawyer made sure he wasn't at home.

g) Lawyers for the second cartoonist finally catch the derptard lawyer as he's leaving court (from another case) and give him the "we're suing you" papers--which means that the derptard lawyer will have to show up in court within 21 business days to let the judge know what he's going to do about it.

h) If the lawyers for the second cartoonist are smart, they'll talk to the judge about a few things that could well mean that the derptard lawyer doesn't get to be a lawyer anymore :D (Avoiding legal service when an attorney--that is, trying very, very hard to NOT receive those "we're suing you" papers--could be a factor in a future disbarment hearing, methinks.)
 
2012-11-27 10:10:41 PM  
Young whippersnappers. "Most hated lawyer on the Internet?" How soon they forget Helena Kobrin.
 
2012-11-27 10:12:09 PM  

FormlessOne: BlackPete: After reading the headline, I was expecting Jack Thompson or even Orly Taitz. I've never heard of this guy.

Anyone want to do a tl;dr version of who this guy is?

This guy got his ass handed to him by The Oatmeal. Repeatedly. He tried to pull the usual shyster intimidation shiat, got called out for it, and so he kept escalating it, each time getting his ass handed to him until he finally withdrew his spurious lawsuits and walked away. The trouble is, of course, that thanks to the persistence of the Internet, his name is essentially mud and he's become fodder for satirists.

Why this guy hasn't been disbarred is beyond me.


I think with that stunt with refusing service...if he hadn't walked himself into a disbarment hearing before, he may well have now; at least one of the lawyers for Recouvreur is in fact Larry Flynt's old attorney when Jerry Falwell was suing him over the infamous "Peroni Outhouse Sex Parody", and both of them are smart enough that I think they'd be talking with the judge re sanctions on Carreon.
 
2012-11-27 10:22:41 PM  

Tridentata: Young whippersnappers. "Most hated lawyer on the Internet?" How soon they forget Helena Kobrin.


Thanks man - I appreciate the translation from ??? to English. Have you considered a career at ars technica?
 
2012-11-27 10:25:54 PM  

Great Porn Dragon: zimmerman: styckx: Can someone speak to me like a 3 year old and explain what the fark I'm reading please?



Dammit, thanked the wrong guy. I'm sure you're pretty awesome too, Tridentata. 

\I did kind of imply via styckx that i have a 3 year old's intellect, so you can't hold it against me.
 
2012-11-27 11:08:21 PM  

Great Porn Dragon: FormlessOne: BlackPete: After reading the headline, I was expecting Jack Thompson or even Orly Taitz. I've never heard of this guy.

Anyone want to do a tl;dr version of who this guy is?

This guy got his ass handed to him by The Oatmeal. Repeatedly. He tried to pull the usual shyster intimidation shiat, got called out for it, and so he kept escalating it, each time getting his ass handed to him until he finally withdrew his spurious lawsuits and walked away. The trouble is, of course, that thanks to the persistence of the Internet, his name is essentially mud and he's become fodder for satirists.

Why this guy hasn't been disbarred is beyond me.

I think with that stunt with refusing service...if he hadn't walked himself into a disbarment hearing before, he may well have now; at least one of the lawyers for Recouvreur is in fact Larry Flynt's old attorney when Jerry Falwell was suing him over the infamous "Peroni Outhouse Sex Parody", and both of them are smart enough that I think they'd be talking with the judge re sanctions on Carreon.


I'm not so sure. How much havoc did Thompson have to cause to lose his license?

In July 2008, Thompson was permanently disbarred by the Florida Supreme Court for inappropriate conduct, including making false statements to tribunals and disparaging and humiliating litigants.[8][9]


Yeah, he had to reach pretty ridiculous levels of asinine behavior before being disbarred. Heck, he even challenged the Florida Bar directly.
 
2012-11-27 11:23:03 PM  

Tridentata: Young whippersnappers. "Most hated lawyer on the Internet?" How soon they forget Helena Kobrin Laurence Canter and Martha Siegel.

 
2012-11-27 11:29:25 PM  

Great Porn Dragon: Be glad to:.......


thank you, i have heard of this case before, but have had no luck finding out just what the well was going on (to be fair, i wasnt trying *that* hard)
 
2012-11-28 12:47:27 AM  
I hadn't heard of this guy, thanks for the explanations.

I figured it was about the dart league douchebag.
 
2012-11-28 01:04:21 AM  
I just feel so much stupider after reading that whole article expecting something I could care about. You people need jobs if this fascinates you.
 
2012-11-28 01:14:08 AM  

inglixthemad: Great Porn Dragon: FormlessOne: BlackPete: After reading the headline, I was expecting Jack Thompson or even Orly Taitz. I've never heard of this guy.

Anyone want to do a tl;dr version of who this guy is?

This guy got his ass handed to him by The Oatmeal. Repeatedly. He tried to pull the usual shyster intimidation shiat, got called out for it, and so he kept escalating it, each time getting his ass handed to him until he finally withdrew his spurious lawsuits and walked away. The trouble is, of course, that thanks to the persistence of the Internet, his name is essentially mud and he's become fodder for satirists.

Why this guy hasn't been disbarred is beyond me.

I think with that stunt with refusing service...if he hadn't walked himself into a disbarment hearing before, he may well have now; at least one of the lawyers for Recouvreur is in fact Larry Flynt's old attorney when Jerry Falwell was suing him over the infamous "Peroni Outhouse Sex Parody", and both of them are smart enough that I think they'd be talking with the judge re sanctions on Carreon.

I'm not so sure. How much havoc did Thompson have to cause to lose his license?

In July 2008, Thompson was permanently disbarred by the Florida Supreme Court for inappropriate conduct, including making false statements to tribunals and disparaging and humiliating litigants.[8][9]


Yeah, he had to reach pretty ridiculous levels of asinine behavior before being disbarred. Heck, he even challenged the Florida Bar directly.


Yeah, but... this is Florida we're talking about here. It has its own Fark tag. Now granted, Arizona sorta does as well, but they're known more for being gun-toting racist assholes. This guy being a complete and utter whiny pussy in their state I can't see ending very well for him.
 
2012-11-28 03:08:43 AM  

Scrotastic Method: The Angry Hand of God: This guy makes me want to gag his wife to death with my cock in front of him. Also, take the Ramones shirt off douche. You are NOT worthy.

And his flag is backwards.


He's in duress.
 
2012-11-28 03:57:16 AM  

Glockenspiel Hero: I got one of the original Cantor and Siegal green card spam emails. I've been hating internet lawyers since before half of you were born.


You know how I know you don't? .....Canter & Siegel never emailed anyone. They spammed newsgroups with the green card lottery.
 
2012-11-28 04:04:11 AM  

quiotu: inglixthemad: Great Porn Dragon: FormlessOne: BlackPete: After reading the headline, I was expecting Jack Thompson or even Orly Taitz. I've never heard of this guy.

Anyone want to do a tl;dr version of who this guy is?

This guy got his ass handed to him by The Oatmeal. Repeatedly. He tried to pull the usual shyster intimidation shiat, got called out for it, and so he kept escalating it, each time getting his ass handed to him until he finally withdrew his spurious lawsuits and walked away. The trouble is, of course, that thanks to the persistence of the Internet, his name is essentially mud and he's become fodder for satirists.

Why this guy hasn't been disbarred is beyond me.

I think with that stunt with refusing service...if he hadn't walked himself into a disbarment hearing before, he may well have now; at least one of the lawyers for Recouvreur is in fact Larry Flynt's old attorney when Jerry Falwell was suing him over the infamous "Peroni Outhouse Sex Parody", and both of them are smart enough that I think they'd be talking with the judge re sanctions on Carreon.

I'm not so sure. How much havoc did Thompson have to cause to lose his license?

In July 2008, Thompson was permanently disbarred by the Florida Supreme Court for inappropriate conduct, including making false statements to tribunals and disparaging and humiliating litigants.[8][9]


Yeah, he had to reach pretty ridiculous levels of asinine behavior before being disbarred. Heck, he even challenged the Florida Bar directly.

Yeah, but... this is Florida we're talking about here. It has its own Fark tag. Now granted, Arizona sorta does as well, but they're known more for being gun-toting racist assholes. This guy being a complete and utter whiny pussy in their state I can't see ending very well for him.


Not only that, but (if memory serves me right) the Aforementioned Derptard Lawyer is actually licensed in California, which has a remarkably low tolerance level for legal sillybuggers by attorneys (Florida is actually one of the more lenient jurisdictions for scummy lawyers, to be honest).

Jack Thomson also pretty much only really stuck around because he had close friends among dominionists in the Florida legislature, which is not quite so true for Carreon (once upon a time he did have some cred in First Amendment lawsuit circles, but he's well and truly pissed away that goodwill at this point). The real impression I get with Carreon is that he's playing a legal version of Internet Tough Guy, whilst not realising that judges in a lot of jurisdictions frown upon this.

(Pretty much what made Carreon back down from his lawsuit against the author of The Oatmeal was that the EFF stepped in and made it very clear that if he tried anything they were going to file charges against him under California's anti-SLAPP law (which is very strict, and lawyers who file a SLAPP lawsuit can in fact be disbarred as a sanction under the law). I expect he settled in Arizona hoping to have a more profitable legal environment, but unfortunately for Carreon, Arizona also has an anti-SLAPP law that, much like California's, gives defendants the right to petition the court to not only dismiss the case but to explicitly sanction the attorney who filed the SLAPP. As it turns out, the lawsuit against Carreon was filed in San Francisco district court--meaning that California anti-SLAPP laws come into play.)

(The derptard lawyer also threatened to file suit "in Arizona, California, or Florida" or in the author's home state (which is apparently California, sucks to be Carreon)--and all three have SLAPP laws (Florida's by far being the weakest, pretty much restricted to government lobbying and prohibiting SLAPPs by HOA owners against their membership). California...pretty much has set the benchmark re anti-SLAPP regulation and action in the courts, and I think Carreon may well find his life becoming interesting in the Chinese sense if he carries on (pun intended).)
 
2012-11-28 04:44:28 AM  
Even worse than Dino M. Zaffina?
 
2012-11-28 09:06:09 AM  

The Angry Hand of God: This guy makes me want to gag his wife to death with my cock in front of him. Also, take the Ramones shirt off douche. You are NOT worthy.

[cdn.arstechnica.net image 640x618]


Also, hang the flag correctly. D!ck!
 
2012-11-28 09:32:56 AM  
I thought this was going to be related to either:

A) those guys from texas that protests the funerals of dead soldiers
B) related to Monster Cables

darn...
 
2012-11-28 10:34:21 AM  
I thought it was THIS Douchenozzle
 
2012-11-28 03:32:53 PM  

Summoner101: Scrotastic Method: The Angry Hand of God: This guy makes me want to gag his wife to death with my cock in front of him. Also, take the Ramones shirt off douche. You are NOT worthy.

And his flag is backwards.

He's in duress.


probably has 'gold fringe' on it...
 
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