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(ESPN)   The rankings are topped by the 2 worst 10-1 teams of all time, the Broncos are higher than the Packers, and the Colts, Bucs, and Bengals are all higher than the Steelers. Who would've guessed that 13 weeks ago? It's your week 13 NFL Power Rankings   (espn.go.com) divider line 331
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2012-11-27 12:46:53 PM
Wow. From 10 wins last week to.....well.....read at your own risk!


@ CVG -8.5 Oakland 50.5
With Ben out and CIN theoreitically alive for the last WC spot (trailing INDY and PITTS' 6 wins with 5), CVG needs to rack wins where available. Gonna pick them outright.

1-0, CVG by 24.



PIT -1.5 @ CLE 34.5
Safe play is cover, going with that.

2-0. Wow. Didn't expect that.


@ INDY -3 BUF 50.5
Neither team is an offensive juggernaut, but the defenses are subpar (INDY i think 22nd at points per, but BUF 30th (of 32, of course) at 29.9 per. Gonna pick IND outright and take the over.

3-0, colts by 7. WRong on the over though (33).


DEN -10.5 @ MCI 43
Big number this late in the season but DEN is a solid home team. As for MCI, Brady Quinn hasn't won an NFL game in ONE THOUSAND AND SEVENTY TWO DAYS (12/20/09) when he led the Browns to a win over....oh boy, this is awkward.....MCI. DEN outright but for the record, I don't feel very confident about this one.

3-1. Knew it. too big of a number. Donks by 8. And Brady's winless streak lives another 7 days. Assuming they don't go back to Cassel. Who knows.



BNA -3.5 @ JAX 44.5
Yeccch. a combined 5-15 record here. the 28th worst scorind defense (TENN) vs the 31st. As for JAX, their next home win in 2012 will be their first. Not today, JAX, BNA outright.

3-2. Jax by 5.


@ MDW -6.5 MSP 38
7-3 MDW, 6-4 MSP but MSP has better current divisional record. I don't think MDW should get this many points, so I'll say MSP cover (and note, I've said all season I don't believe in MSP; I don't, but I think the line is just too high. I can see MDW winning but in single digits.

3-3. Bears by 18.


ATL -1.5 @ TPA 52
Both are on 4-1 streaks, but ATL lost two weeks ago and had a dreadful game vs ARIZ last week, whereas TPA has won 4 straight (ok, they needed OT vers CARO last week, but still). And what's more, these two meet again in Week 17. Very interesting dynamic for the South. Welp. I'm gonna say TPA outright. ATL seems to be in a bit of the doldrums and TPA rounding into form.

3-4, Falcons by 1. I guess we have to say ATL, warts and all, is legit. May have sealed teh South right there. I think a 4 game divisional lead?



SEA -3 @ MIA 37.5
The longest road trip in pro sports; Seattle to Miami. SEA is quietly only one back of SFO and this is a "should win" game. I think the line should probably be a bit higher. 4, maybe 4.5. SEA outright.

dammit. 3-5, MIA by 3.


BWI -1 @ SAN 47
strange number. 1? an 8-2 (and 5-0 OTR) BWI versus a 4-6 (2-2 home) San Dog? Huh? this means something is known to "those people" that the public isn't privy to. DANGER, WILL ROBINSON! SD outright.


Jeez louise! 3-6, BWI by 3.


SFO -1.5 @ MSY 50
Gonna pick MSY. This is Kaepernick's first road start right? MSY probably can't dig themselves out of that, what, 0-5 hole they dug but they'll win today. 7-8 points, 32-24, 29-20, that area.

3-7. SFO by 10. GAAAAHHH.


PHX -1.5 STL 36.5
gonna pick Lindley to win. If past holds to form, the young, brash rookie wins his first start at home (Max Hall, i think, and Skelton too if I'm not mistaken).


3-8. Good lord. worst week of the year! But he played ok. Had some zip on his passes, made a couple of dumb throws but hey, his first start and second game. These things will happen.


@ LGA -3 GRB 51
Gonna pick GRB jus to make the North interesting.

3-9. Jiminy christmas.


CLT -3 @ PHL 40.5
Gonna say.....ermmm.......CLT outright.
PHI to cover. my first instinct has been wrong as shiat this week so I'm going Operation Codename: George Costanza and doing the opposite.


THREE AND TEN! jeez. so much for feeling good about last week.
 
2012-11-27 12:51:48 PM
Stilluhrs turn the ball over eight times against Cleveland, remain in the Top-15.
 
2012-11-27 12:55:47 PM
If the Eagles played the Jaguars or Chiefs I'd take the Jags -- who can pass and the Eagles can't stop the pass -- or the Chiefs -- who can run and the Eagles can't stop the run -- without a moment's hesitation.

/Eagles season ticket holder.
//Didn't get home until 3:30AM
 
2012-11-27 12:59:23 PM
There's finally a little movement near the bottom of the list. Although now we're behind Cleveland. I guess that's fair since they beat the not-as-messed-up-Pennsylvania-team.
 
2012-11-27 01:00:26 PM
Thrilled and confused and not quite sure what to do with myself because it's almost December and we have yet to be eliminated outright from the playoff conversation.

/Skins fan
 
2012-11-27 01:01:02 PM
10 win teams
Atlanta
Houston

9 win teams
Baltimore

8 win teams
New England
Denver
Chicago
San Francisco

7 win teams
Green Bay
New York Giants
Indianapolis

6 win teams
Pittsburgh
Cincinnati
Minnesota
Tampa Bay
Seattle


5 win teams
Miami
Washington
Dallas
New Orleans

4 win teams
Arizona
St. Louis
Detroit
San Diego
Tennessee
Buffalo
New York Jets

3 win teams
Cleveland
Oakland
Philadelphia
Carolina

2 win team
Jacksonville

1 win team
Kansas City

17 teams with losing records
15 teams with winning records
 
2012-11-27 01:01:07 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: or the Chiefs -- who can run and the Eagles can't stop the run.


And, if by chance they figured out how, the Chiefs would find their passing game again.

Mr. Coffee Nerves: /Eagles season ticket holder.
//Didn't get home until 3:30AM


My condolences.
 
2012-11-27 01:01:23 PM
Ricky, have you always had such insane abbreviations for the teams, and I've just never noticed it? CLT? MDW? MCI?

/and to think I got mocked a few years ago in the college football threads for using abbreviations like OHST and FLST
//lots of interesting tiebreaker / playoff scenario discussion this week, it'll be up a bit later on
 
2012-11-27 01:01:29 PM

rickythepenguin: THREE AND TEN! jeez. so much for feeling good about last week


At least half of your team acronyms make no sense to me
 
2012-11-27 01:01:49 PM
Actually, I think everyone had Peyton Manning's Broncos ahead of Andrew Luck's Colts at the beginning of the season.
 
2012-11-27 01:02:20 PM

rickythepenguin: Wow. From 10 wins last week to.....well.....read at your own risk!


Dude, the airport names made that so much worse to read. haha
 
2012-11-27 01:03:00 PM
I'm guessing Ricky's using local airport abbreviations.
 
2012-11-27 01:03:39 PM

RminusQ: Ricky, have you always had such insane abbreviations for the teams, and I've just never noticed it? CLT? MDW? MCI?


He's using airport codes
 
2012-11-27 01:03:46 PM

xaks: 17 teams with losing records
15 teams with winning records


And it won't matter come playoff time. Who's really got their shiat together then?

//Wouldn't want to see the Giants in January.
 
2012-11-27 01:04:01 PM

RminusQ: Ricky, have you always had such insane abbreviations for the teams, and I've just never noticed it? CLT? MDW? MCI


He's using the airport codes for the cities. MDW is Chicago Midway (O'Hare is ORD), for example.
 
2012-11-27 01:04:37 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: If the Eagles played the Jaguars or Chiefs I'd take the Jags -- who can pass and the Eagles can't stop the pass -- or the Chiefs -- who can run and the Eagles can't stop the run -- without a moment's hesitation.

/Eagles season ticket holder.
//Didn't get home until 3:30AM


Stopped for a few stiff drinks on the way home? Good knows you need them.

/sob
 
2012-11-27 01:04:50 PM

hurdboy: Stilluhrs turn the ball over eight times against Cleveland, remain in the Top-15.


If Charlie Batch had thrown EVERY SINGLE BALL INTO THE GROUND, he'd have had a 39.6 QB rating, That with nothing but incompletions on every single pass attempt.

He ended the game against the vaunted Browns with a rating of 38.7.

Think about that a little bit.
 
2012-11-27 01:04:51 PM
Cleveland is just right.

For now.
 
2012-11-27 01:06:06 PM

xaks: hurdboy: Stilluhrs turn the ball over eight times against Cleveland, remain in the Top-15.

If Charlie Batch had thrown EVERY SINGLE BALL INTO THE GROUND, he'd have had a 39.6 QB rating, That with nothing but incompletions on every single pass attempt.

He ended the game against the vaunted Browns with a rating of 38.7.

Think about that a little bit.


And he was less responsible for the loss than their RB quartet.
 
2012-11-27 01:06:40 PM

degenerate-afro: Actually, I think everyone had Peyton Manning's Broncos ahead of Andrew Luck's Colts at the beginning of the season.


No doubt, but that's not contrary to what the headline says. The point is, how many would've ranked the Broncos ahead of the Packers, or the Colts ahead of the Steelers? Probably not many.
 
2012-11-27 01:07:06 PM
Question though, why LGA for the Giants? Closest airport to MetLife is EWR.
Even though they play in the same stadium, LGA -does- make sense for the Jets though.. in fact, the Jets are named the Jets -because- of LGA.
 
2012-11-27 01:07:07 PM
chicagosportposter.com

Bear down.
 
2012-11-27 01:07:16 PM
I knew the Pack was too damn high last week.
 
2012-11-27 01:09:11 PM
THE DOLPHINS ARE A TOP 20 TEAM
 
2012-11-27 01:12:36 PM

xaks: He ended the game against the vaunted Browns with a rating of 38.7.

Think about that a little bit.


That QBR is nonsense. See: RGIII hitting the perfect mark as a rookie. (And, no the four-letter's invented nonsense isn't any better, really.)

Batch is a serviceable QB. Stilluhrs are bitten by the injury bug, bad coaching. But, bigger thatn that? The gimmick-y teams are failing. Blitz-heavy defense, spread it out, and Fark-it-I'm-goin'-deep offenses.

The Colts, Bills, and Dolphins aren't good teams; any of 'em could beat Pittsburgh, Houston, or Atlanta.
 
2012-11-27 01:13:31 PM
stupid auto-play videos...

I did get something, one guy is reporting from his kitchen, and the other from his basement... *facedesk*
 
2012-11-27 01:14:16 PM

SkylineRecords: [chicagosportposter.com image 300x300]

Bear down.


Yeah. The team that gets abducted by the spacecraft that landed on top of Soldier Field isn't going to have a fun day in January.
 
2012-11-27 01:17:18 PM

hurdboy: SkylineRecords: [chicagosportposter.com image 300x300]

Bear down.

Yeah. The team that gets abducted by the spacecraft that landed on top of Soldier Field isn't going to have a fun day in January.


We abducted Brandon Marshall, and he's takin' it to ALL of your leaders.
 
2012-11-27 01:17:36 PM

xaks: 10 win teams
Atlanta
Houston

9 win teams
Baltimore

8 win teams
New England
Denver
Chicago
San Francisco

7 win teams
Green Bay
New York Giants
Indianapolis

6 win teams
Pittsburgh
Cincinnati
Minnesota
Tampa Bay
Seattle


5 win teams
Miami
Washington
Dallas
New Orleans

4 win teams
Arizona
St. Louis
Detroit
San Diego
Tennessee
Buffalo
New York Jets

3 win teams
Cleveland
Oakland
Philadelphia
Carolina

2 win team
Jacksonville

1 win team
Kansas City

17 teams with losing records
15 teams with winning records


Shouldn't the 49ers and Rams be 8.5 and 4.5 win teams?
 
2012-11-27 01:17:49 PM
Ok, everybody- it's time for Romeo's Shakespeare. I was initially going to make a one-off post of Crennel's greatest third grade teacher-esque quotes, but I got so much material from this past week alone that it might be a recurring bit. All of these are actual quotations from various Chiefs press conferences.

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"This is a result-driven business we're in, and when you get results, you feel good about it. When you don't get results, you don't feel good about it."

"I took the points on the board because I thought points on the board were important. The more points you have, the better chance you have to win the game."

"If we keep playing and give ourselves a chance, then we will make some plays to put some points on the board."

"We need to be perfect - because that's the only way that we have a chance, so that's what we are going to work on to try to get it done... Nobody is ever perfect..."

/Barkley 2012
 
2012-11-27 01:18:35 PM
13-3 biatches, read 'em and weep! That brings me up to 116-58 on the season now, which can actually be read as "Harv is freaking awesome!" No, but seriously, I'd like to thank Mountain Dew for giving me the energy to plow through all those late nights, my cat for plopping down right in front of the keyboard each and every week as I attempt to type these, the Academy for recognizing me, and of course to all of you, because without the fans none of this would be possible nor even worth doing! Now it's over to the Australian and Hawaiian Internationals, and then me and Mick are gonna wing on over to London and jam with the Stones!

I'm really not very good at gloating. Here's the review, and here are the original picks:

Houston Texans at Detroit Lions:
Remember two weeks ago, when the Texans boasted a stifling defense? In the time since then they've pulled a reverse teen movie transformation and gone from prom queen to spectacled, overall-wearing ugly duckling. The wins have kept rolling in courtesy of the offense, but surrendering 37 to the Jaguars and following that up by allowing Matthew Stafford to rack up 441 yards & 2 TDs through the air will certainly cast some doubts on their Super Bowl aspirations. 1-0

Washington Redskins at Dallas Cowboys:
Dallas held Robert Griffin III to just 29 yards rushing on 6 attempts, which would be much more impressive were it not for two things: giving up 311 yards & 4 TDs through the air to Griffin, and totaling just 35 yards on the ground themselves. Tony Romo once again proved that no quarterback in the NFL is better at engineering near-comebacks against two-deep zone coverage, but at some point the team needs to focus on how they keep falling behind by multiple scores in the first place. 2-0

New England Patriots at New York Jets:
On the bright side, New York scored 13 more points than I predicted for them. But in the pitch-black netherworld which is their existence, they also gave up 14 more than even I thought possible, losing a squeaker by 30 measly points. When even Fireman Ed gives up on you, it's well and truly over. 3-0

Minnesota Vikings at Chicago Bears:
In a game and a half with Jason Campbell under center, the Bears scored 7 points and lost both outings. In Jay Cutler's first game back Chicago put 28 on the board and cruised to an easy victory, making the team 8-1 in games he's finished at quarterback. While his stats may not warrant it on their own, that record should inject Cutler into the MVP discussion. Flame away. 4-0

Oakland Raiders at Cincinnati Bengals:
11 games into the season and Oakland's only wins have come against Kansas City, Jacksonville, and a team that just lost to the Browns (sorry, Becks!). Meanwhile, for anyone who wasn't yet positive that the Raiders got wholly fleeced in the Carson Palmer deal, Palmer goes 19/34 for 146, 1 TD, and 2 turnovers in his homecoming. Andy Dalton posted 16/30, 210, and 3 TDs in the game. 5-0


Pittsburgh Steelers at Cleveland Browns:
Eight turnovers. Eight. Let's put this into perspective: Jake Delhomme's crowning achievement consisted of six giveaways. Coming in to Sunday's action, nine teams had lost fewer fumbles than the Steelers coughed up in this one game (ironically including the Cleveland Browns). The Steelers themselves had only managed 12 turnovers over their first 10 games, yet here we are. Perhaps most telling of all, Pittsburgh somehow managed to avoid allowing the Browns to execute their customary fourth-quarter collapse. For one week at least, there will be joy in the Factory of Sadness. 5-1


Buffalo Bills at Indianapolis Colts:
So yeah, yeah, Andrew Luck is good & all and Ty Hilton had a helluva game, but let's talk about the only reason to pay any attention to a Bills game this season: C.J. Spiller picked up another 107 yards on just 14 carries. 12 weeks into the season, he is still averaging nearly 7 yards/carry and closing in rapidly on the 1,000-yard mark. He accounted for more than a third of Buffalo's total net yardage in this game, despite touching the ball only 15 times. This guy is a beast. 6-1


Tennessee Titans at Jacksonville Jaguars:
I said that I really wanted to pick the Jags, didn't I? I compared Tennessee to an animated character in a Harry Hamlin flick, didn't I (and incidentally, I was pretty proud of that line. Shame on you all for not showering me with gifts and praise for it)? Jacksonville is now 2-3 against their fellow AFC South teams this season, 0-6 against the rest of the league. 6-2


Denver Broncos at Kansas City Chiefs:
Okay, so it wasn't nearly as easy as I, nor the rest of the world (likely including the Chiefs themselves), thought it would be. But Manning & Co. did hit the magic number by scoring 17 points; Kansas City has not scored that many in a game since September 30th. Actually, Kansas City hasn't scored that many total since November 13th. 7-2

Seattle Seahawks at Miami Dolphins:
The Dolphins are by no means a good team, but I think they're just stupid enough to believe they really do still have a shot at postseason play, thus leading to a win on a late field goal.
Wizard! Solid enough game for Russell Wilson and the Seattle offense, but the defense really let them down in this one. Give credit for the Dolphins for thinking outside the box by trying to flood the field in order to gain an even bigger homefield advantage. Because Dolphins swim. 8-2

Atlanta Falcons at Tampa Bay Buccaneers:
Did I say Atlanta would force enough turnovers to win? I meant to say that they'd give up enough, but win anyway. Yeah, that's the ticket. But Tampa has nothing to be ashamed of in losing by a single point against the 10-1 Falcons; now that the dust has settled on this season and the contenders are being separated from the pretenders (looking at you, NFC West), the Bucs have to be considered one of the most surprising entries into the former category. 9-2

Baltimore Ravens at San Diego Chargers:
In what has to go down as one of the most exciting 16-13 games in NFL history, and one that likely led to numerous heart attacks in the Baltimore area and ulcers in and around San Diego, the 2012 destinies of both teams may indeed come down to that one 4th & 29. For the Ravens, the incredible individual effort of Ray Rice to pick up those necessary yards could be exactly what a team without an identity needed as a foundation toward a Super Bowl drive. For the Chargers, the shock and humiliation of giving up 30 yards on what could have been the game-sealing play, and to a screen pass of all things, might just be all that's needed to give up on the season. 10-2


St. Louis Rams at Arizona Cardinals:
Congratulations to the Saint Louis Rams and their fans. You are now officially the third-best team in the NFC West. 10-3


San Francisco 49ers at New Orleans Saints:
it's still the defense which truly drives San Fran, and expect to see them remain in the pilot's seat with a game-deciding pick-6 today.
Or, you know...two pick-sixes. For the fourth time this season, an opponent rung up 30 or more points against the Saints. They are 0-4 in those games. 11-3

Green Bay Packers at New York Giants:
Apparently, the Giants decided to get it done by utterly dominating Green Bay from the opening kickoff until the final whistle; in hindsight that game plan should have been obvious. At some point the Packers need to discover a running game, or at least coat Aaron Rodgers in safety foam. 12-3

Carolina Panthers at Philadelphia Eagles:
Cam Newton remains his mother's favorite player, at least for one more week, while Michael Vick continues to somehow gain job security. Even the lone bit of silver lining for the Eagles had a touch of Philly grey: rookie Bryce Brown broke out to the tune of 178 rushing yards & 2 TDs, but also managed to lose two fumbles. Thankfully we won't have to suffer through another crapfest like this one in prime time until...oh, fark. Eagles at Cowboys, next Sunday night. 13-3
 
2012-11-27 01:19:04 PM
I had to do a double take when seeing the Colts' record.

7-3? Really? How did this happen? I haven't paid much attention to them, I know they got a big win for their coach early this year, and they got blown out by the Pats. Other than that they haven't been on my radar.
 
2012-11-27 01:20:08 PM
As a 9ers fan, it pleases me that they are one win away from finishing better than the 9-6 season that so many people predicted at the start of the season. They should realistically finish 11-4-1 with three wins and two loses to close out the season. I think it is feasible that they beat the Rams, Dolphins and Cards and lose to the Pats and Seachickens. Even with this modest finish to the season they should be able to hold on to the #2 seed in the NFC. We'll have to see, but I'm excited for another post-season run.
 
2012-11-27 01:20:13 PM
"the Colts, Bucs, and Bengals are all higher than the Steelers. Who would've guessed that 13 weeks ago?"
Charlie Batch is washed up, so is Byron Leftwich. It's 2012, not 2006.
Roethlisberger tends to get hurt, time to back him up with something better than leftovers...
 
2012-11-27 01:21:07 PM
I'd put the Jags ahead of the Raiders and Eagles at this point. It's power rankings, not the standings. They are playing better football these past couple weeks than both those teams.
 
2012-11-27 01:22:59 PM

ChuckNorrisSays: Shouldn't the 49ers and Rams be 8.5 and 4.5 win teams?


No, they shouldn't. You either got a win, or you didn't.

It may not count as a loss, but it ain't part of a win.
 
2012-11-27 01:23:11 PM
Giving Batch the Jake is like booing kids at the Special Olympics. You knew he was going to suck like the blind kid trying the high jump. Yes they both end up rolling on the ground completely confused and disoriented with an overbearing father figure screaming "YOU AREN'T THE ONE I WANTED!!!!"

Give poor Charlie and orange slice and a cookie. Pat his little head, give him a hug, and tell him he did his little differently-abled best.
 
2012-11-27 01:23:22 PM

4NSpy: I'd put the Jags ahead of the Raiders and Eagles at this point. It's power rankings, not the standings. They are playing better football these past couple weeks than both those teams.


Agreed.
 
2012-11-27 01:23:29 PM

chopit: I knew the Pack was too damn high last week.


:(
The Pack is my other team.
 
2012-11-27 01:24:08 PM

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Giving Batch the Jake is like booing kids at the Special Olympics. You knew he was going to suck like the blind kid trying the high jump. Yes they both end up rolling on the ground completely confused and disoriented with an overbearing father figure screaming "YOU AREN'T THE ONE I WANTED!!!!"

Give poor Charlie and orange slice and a cookie. Pat his little head, give him a hug, and tell him he did his little differently-abled best.


Lindley won it this week.
 
2012-11-27 01:24:28 PM
WHAR JAKE WHAR

WHAR GRAFS WHAR (OK, here's one):
www.helloonline.com

WHAR OTHER GRAFS WHAR
 
2012-11-27 01:24:37 PM
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Welcome back, one and all, to the trivia game where the host is huffing gold spraypaint, the questions are so obscure it hurts when I pee, and the players either don't care or think I'm a jackass! The only thing that keeps this going is three shots of Jack Daniels and two shots of Espresso so if you're thinking of getting me a present for the holidays I'd happily take a little of both. This week's questions are getting back to the original intent of the game - to highlight interesting statistical anomalies of three of the most important positions for people who don't know anything about football. QBs, RBs, and WRs are our categories this week, and they're sneaky, so watch out! Also there are some hints. Sort of.

Name That QB:

1. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are considered the elite of the elite of the NFL. One leads the NFL in 1st half touchdowns, the other leads the NFL in 2nd half touchdowns. But which one leads which category?

2. This player has the highest percentage of his passes intercepted, marking a low point for a player already at a pretty low point.

3. This player leads the NFL in pass completions for the season, which shouldn't surprise fans of the team he plays for or anyone who is familiar with certain types of organizational charts.


Name That RB

1. This RB led all backs in rushing yardage for week 12 with a commanding 39 yard lead over the next highest rusher. It should also be noted that he led all backs in a different, less positive stat for the week.

2. This player currently gets the most 1st downs per carry for the season. Please note the term "player" and that he just crushes a lot.

3. This RB has attempted, but not yet failed to score a touchdown on a run inside the 3 yard line. DOUBLE NEGATIVE ALL THE WAY! WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!


Name That WR

1. This player leads the NFL in 4th Quarter Touchdown receptions. If he keeps this up, he'll go down in historrrreeeeeeee.

2. You can't make the catch if your QB never looks your way... but this WR gets a LOT of looks. He leads the NFL in receiving targets, with a 20 target advantage over the 2nd position.

3. Two players stand atop the "Receiving Touchdown" leaderboards, but only one is actually a WR. Who is that player? Also, who is Keyser Söze? 


PENCILS DOWN! Seriously, put that pencil down. This is an internet post. You don't need a pencil. Feel free to let us know your best guesses. Answers will go up at 3pm Central Time.  Now call your mother and tell her you love her, and that I said hi.
 
2012-11-27 01:24:40 PM
Me, when the Vikings were 4-1: "I still can't look at the schedule and see better than 8-8. Hope for it, but certainly would be stupid to bet on it."

When they were 5-2: "I'm expecting no more than 4 more wins this season. Bucs and Lions at home, 1 of the 4 Bears/Packers games, and 1 of the 3 Seahawks, Rams, Texans away games."

Now they need to steal 2 games from:
Packers
Packers
Bears
Rams
Texans

My guess is they win at the Rams and home against the Packers, maybe the Bears.

/Come on 8-8!
 
2012-11-27 01:24:54 PM

Earpj: The Pack is my other team.


30.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-27 01:26:03 PM
Week 13 picks. Straight winner/loser, no spread or over / under


NO @ ATL
This is gonna be a barn-burner. Brees and Co. are unhappy campers after losing to the Niners at home, and are a lot tougher to handle than a 5-6 record would indicate. They've won 3 of their last 4 and 4 of the last 6, and they were in it to the end against one of the better, more complete teams in football in SF. The two pick-6s were killers when you consider the 10 point margin of victory. Brees is 31TD/11INTs, over 3300 yard, and a 98.5 rating for 2012. The real question isn't him, it's the defense stopping all the Falcons points!
Plus, 10-1 is 10-1. And playing at home? Atlanta is a plus 78 in net points this year, but their one loss came to these same N'awlins folks just a couple weeks back. Hmm, plus 3 turnover ratio. And the running game just isn't putting up big numbers this year either.
Early line outta Vegas is the home Falcons by about 4. I'll go with that for now.

SEA @ CHI
Seattle doesn't play very well on the road, comparatively speaking. That was a surprisingly competitive effort they put up in Miami. Plus both corners have looming suspensions for PEDs. Blech, not a good outlook for the last part of the season. That said, though, Russ Wilson has made a believer out of everyone on that roster, and he just keeps making plays. I wouldn't count him out of any contest.
However, Chicago at home in December. That defense is one of the better squads in football. Depending on how many of this weeks injured can play, I think Cutler's strong arm and ability to move in the pocket will make a big difference. Still, the Bears oline is ass, and these Seahawks LOVE to get fast pressure on the QB. Hmm.
Vegas has the Bears as faves by about 4, and I'll go with that, pending injury reports and suspensions.

HOU @ TEN
I don't get to see much of Tennessee. I see a stat line of 4-7, minus 97 in points, 19th-24th in scoring, yards, pass yards, and rush yards. I see a young QB with 59% completions and a team with a -4 turnover ratio. CJ0k still hasn't even hit 1000 yards yet, but at least his per-carry average is starting to come up a bit now (4.9). I see a decent enough special teams unit and a so-so defense.
Houston, on the other hand, is a hard one to gauge. I see their 10-1 record, but I see how badly they were abused by Green Bay, and I saw how hard a time they had against Detroit on Thanksgiving. Can't take anything away from that offense though, Shaloob just puts up points like nobody's business, Johnson is a stud, and Foster just runs HARD.
I'm gonna agree with the early Vegas line (5) and go with Houston.

NE @ MIA
Miami has only beaten New England about 5 times in the last decade. As division foes, they know each other well, and even in Sun Life Pro Robbe Landshark Stadium, I don't think the 'Phins have the necessary horsepower to knock off the Patties right now. That said, Philbin is damn fine offensive mind, and Tannehill is playing as well as anyone could have expected. Plus, that defense is stouter than most give them credit for. If they can get some receivers, the future looks bright. (As an aside, you tools that I've heard busting up on Jake Long this year? EABOD)
The Pats are...the Pats. They actually have a defense now. Oh and I'm sorry, but I can't help it:
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I'll prolly have a bunch of company picking New England here.

JAX @ BUF
4-7 versus 2-9. *yawn*
But anyways, let's see what Henne can do. They beat Tennessee last weekend, and you've heard me say I don't think Henne was the problem during his time with Miami....I'd pin most of THAT debacle on Tony Soprano. Or whatever the hell Mr. Sunglasses at night's name is (with apologies to Corey Hart). How's that offensive genius doing at his new job in New Jerk? Yea, that's what I thought.
People are coming back from injuries, and I have more faith in Buffalo's hopes at home than I do Chad Henne. Sure, Fitzpatrick and that offense only have a combined 28 touchdowns for a minus 76 point differential, but that's still head and shoulders above the Jags (19 tds, minus 120 points). Plus, this is outside in December in upstate New York.
I feel pretty good about a Buffalo pick here.

IND @ DET
I can't bloody wait for this game. Detroit's weakness is the back-end of its defense, and that is what Luck will go for. I'm still not quite sure how Indy is at 7-4 with a minus 43 point differential, but they are. Surprisingly enough, the Indy offense is roughly #6 or so in the league in passing! Even with a 56% completion rate! However, their rushing game is pretty weak and outside of Reggie Wayne, there's nobody that really jumps off the page at you.
Detroit is ... so...special. They've got the players to move the ball up and down the field, and that's a good thing for that defense. I think their Dline is good but overrated, personally. Calvin Johnson is still Calvin Johnson, and if Pettigrew would learn to actually catch the balls that hit him on the hands for a change...
Vegas early line is the home team Lions by 4.5. I'll take that as a pick to win.

CAR @ KC
I'm really, really trying to NOT bag all over the Chiefs here. SO: good running game (4th in yards per game avg @ 145.6), stout defense (held the Denver Peytons to 17 last week), and an opening at QB to overpay someone for next year. Brady Quinn courageously has 0 touchdown passes and 4 interceptions right now, though, and they as a team are at MINUS 21 in turnovers. I know bakeries that can't claim that. Ye gods. 13 total touchdowns scored. As a *team*.
Carolina.
Then again, I watched Carolina roll over The Iggles on Monday Night. Well, most of it. Sometime during the fourth quarter, my wife intervened and, quoting the 8th Amendment, insisted I come to bed. I did in fact comply, and had to be 'surprised' to see the Panthers ink a W in my absence. Grats to them? They're still horrible, just not AS horrible. Now, they get to flop against arguably the OTHER worst team in football. Who'd have seen this equation coming in the offseason? The three worst teams all playing back to back? Its like a perfect storm of courageous suck this week!
In other news, I flipped a coin and it said to pick Carolina, and I can't really argue because Brady Quinn.

MIN @ GB
Ahhh, December, outside, and NFC north opponents! All you need is beer and brats and you've pretty much defined the "old Black n' Blue" division to a 'T'. After getting flat-out roofied by the Giants in New York, I can promise you that Green Bay's offense is going to be playing pissed off. This is a bad time to come to Lambeau, regardless, and if they already don't like you very much....you're gonna have a bad day. The question remains: How many starters miss the game due to injury THIS week? *sigh*
Minnesota: Adrian Peterson and 52 other guys. Over 147 yards per game average. 5.8+ per carry average. He's...just wow. I love watching him run. He *attacks* people that have the gall to try and tackle him. And so long as you have Jared Allen, you have a pass rush. He's a lot like Justin Smith in that way. Hard to imagine he's been doing this for a decade now! 6'6". 270. And his motor *never* stops. I hate having him on a division opponent, cause he's damn good.
Vegas says 9 or 10 already, and I think the Pack is a safe bet. Still, remember, this division plays each other hard, and to the wire. I'd hate to worry about a spread.

SF @ STL
Amazingly, they still haven't figured out who won the last time these two teams met a couple weeks back. Even in Candlestick, division football is tough games. Playing in the Edward James Olmos Dome is tough duty as a visitor. But I don't see a repeat of the last time these guys butted heads with Kaopectate running that potent Niner offense. They score more with him under center than Smiff ever did, and Harbaugh is right to go with the hot hand.
That said, the Rams aren't without weapons. A weak offensive line looks better now with the return of Wells at center. Plus, Steven Jackson and Richardson 2.0 are a beastly 1-2 punch of the backfield, and the defense is nasty. They give up big plays but make you pay for them in hits, and are a surprising +2 in turnovers. If they could get a couple receivers to actually go out and be a target for Bradford, MAYBE you'd put more points up. But since the TEs and backs have to help block so much, Danny Ammendola missed how many weeks with the collarbone thing, and is STILL their leading receiver with...576 yards? Really?
Division football in December. I'll pick SF to win, but I ain't playing points here. It would be bad.

ARI @ NYJ
Ahhh, Arizona. 18 total touchdowns with a minus 47 point differential and a 7 game losing streak. That's double tough. The upside is you still have a stout defense with a positive turnover ratio and one of the best receivers in football. The bad news, you don't have anyone to throw him the ball and the o-line makes Chicago's look good. Well, you got Beanie Wells back, that's something!
Now, as much as I want to just jump all over the J E S T, I'm gonna try and be nice here. The running game is OK (15th @ 109.5 yards avg). And...umm...Nick Folk is 3 for 3 at 50+ yard FG attempts! Woo!
4-7 versus 4-7. Vegas says it's a coinflip. Ill pick the J E S T even though I'm gonna feel really icky about doing it.

TB @ DEN
They've given up 16 sacks, and are minus 3 in turnovers. But, they're plus 97 in points scored.
The other team also has given up 16 sacks, and are plus 11 in turnovers, and a respectable +56 in points, plus a bonus in having a 1000 yard rusher.
Care to guess which is which? (Hint: Denver first, then Tampa)
Both offenses are averaging about 6.1 yards per offensive play. Big edge is sacks: Denver has 38, Tampa has 18.
Peyton is Peyton. I'll comfortably put my pick on 18s shoulders any day of the week. Don't be too surprised that the Bucs keep it close though.

PIT @ BAL
Didn't we just do this?
They're in Baltimore this time, and there's as many injuries as ever. Baltimore, while also wounded, is just a better team on the gridiron right now, with a better o-line, better running back, and a better defense. Don't go to sleep on Pittsburgh ever, but I see a fairly solid thumping by the Ravens here. Charlie Batch at 51 years old reminds us here that, if every pass you attempted clanged to the turf incomplete, you'd still have a QB rating of 39.6. So, really, his 38.7 for the afternoon is really quite an accomplishment. No, I'm not making that one up. EIGHT gorram turnovers? In ONE game? You're kidding me, right? No WONDER you lost to the Browns! (insert 'Itoldyaso' here)

CIN @ SD
The Bolts hung surprisingly tough against the Ravens last week, taking it all the way to the wire to lose by a field goal. But, at the end of the day, you are what your record says you are....and your record says 4-7. Their running game isn't getting it done, they're minus 3 in turnovers, and let's face it, losing Vincent Jackson has been HUGE. You're in the middle of points-scored (16th) and pass yards per game (18th). Otherwise you're bad (25th in rushing, 25th in total yards). I'm calling them Philadelphia West for the remainder of this season.
Cinci 6-5, and above average in most stat books (10th in points, 14th in yards, 12th in passing, 14th in rushing), a positive turnover margin, a 2-1 TD/int QB in Andy Dalton, and AJ Green already over 1000 yards receiving. But they're giving up 4.4 yards per rush on average, and in the AFC north that ain't good enough. I'm pretty sure the Bengals will end up on the winning side of this game (and Vegas agrees, they're at +1), but I wonder about the post-season.

CLE @ OAK
So, Holmgren has left the building! At this point, they're playing out the string, and it is fairly obvious that the new owner is gonna come in with a giant fire hose and blow out pretty much every one and every thing, and start over. I'll leave it to the Browns fans to decide if this is good or bad. Yea, they're 3-8, and there are coaches younger than their rookie QB, but they have SOME play-makers on that defense, and as Pittsburgh showed last week, anyone can beat anyone some times, in this league.
Plus, we have them lining up against Oakland. The Raiduhs are just a bad, bad football team right now. Minus 138 in points, 29th in rushing, minus 7 in turnovers, and a soft defense that scares no one. They really only have SeaBass, and I'm still betting that monster leg of his has a 70-yarder in it.
Regardless of that, I'll go with Cleveland here.

PHI @ DAL
What I don't like here is reminiscent of last week's late Turkey Day game....I have to root for *one* of them. Blech.
I love a good train wreck as much as the next guy, and I still have a special place in my heart for "4th and 26!". Nick Foles? That's your backup plan? REALLY?
I hate to do it, but I'll have to go with the Cowboys here. *spits*
That being said, I cannot fathom how bad the Eagles are right now. Monday night's performance hearkened back to the 1976 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, which spawned the fantastic quote of "Execution of the offense? I'm in favor of it" by John McKay. They couldn't do a whole lot of anything correctly, and adding insult to injury, DeSean Jackson left the game early with a 'sternum injury'. They'll be pulling people out of the stands to play soon. I actually wished to be watching a High School game at one point last night, as that would have been more competitive. Oh, sure, a couple of defensive players woke up briefly in the second half and made a couple of individual effort plays, yes. But that doesn't excuse the absolute egg than Andy Reid laid out for us on national TV. I'm beginning to wonder if Jeff Laurie won't just fire-hose out the entire operation center and cede the last couple of games, starting over before the end of the season at this rate.

NYG @ WAS
This is gonna be a fun game to watch. Fresh off the absolute domination and embarrassment of Green Bay last week, the G-Men are in their accustomed late-season rally mode. The defense is fast, and gets crazy pressure on opposing QBs. Eli, for all his faults and really bad facial expressions, is a good damned QB and they run the ball well to boot. They're just a flat-out complete, well-coached football team.
Don't write off the Redskins by any means. They're heavy-hitting run team with a kid back there under center who is a good player. 4-1 TD to INT ratio and a 104 rating. That ain't too shabby! Plus a +12 turnover margin. They will make New York work for it. The G-Men are 2.5 point faves as visitors in Vegas. Think about that a minute. If they weren't so banged up on defense....
 
2012-11-27 01:26:28 PM
First off
WHAR Jake WHAR?
WHAR Graffs WHAR?
WHAR Trivia WHAR?
WHAR Colley Rankings WHAR?
WHAR RMinusQ play-oof charts WHAR?
WHAR that Red/Green Gambling guy picks summary WHAR?

Damn thee threads have a lot of gold in them anymore.

No, I'm going to complain that the Redskins are too damned low at #17. They should at least be above the Saints, who have the same record, and who the Redskins did in fact beat. I just say that because I wanted to be happy that the Redskins were considered a top half team as December approaches. I just hope the rematch with the Giants goes better than the first encounter did.
 
2012-11-27 01:26:50 PM
Eagles fans deserve it.
 
2012-11-27 01:28:15 PM

Stimied in a Rut: As a 9ers fan, it pleases me that they are one win away from finishing better than the 9-6 season that so many people predicted at the start of the season. They should realistically finish 11-4-1 with three wins and two loses to close out the season. I think it is feasible that they beat the Rams, Dolphins and Cards and lose to the Pats and Seachickens. Even with this modest finish to the season they should be able to hold on to the #2 seed in the NFC. We'll have to see, but I'm excited for another post-season run.


I think they win one out of two between the Patriots and Seahawks games. There's still an outside chance at the #1 seed.
 
2012-11-27 01:29:32 PM

SkylineRecords: We abducted Brandon Marshall, and he's takin' it to ALL of your leaders.


Hopefully not the way Jay Catler talks to his O-line.

4NSpy: 7-3? Really? How did this happen?


Same way the Texans appear to be running away with things.

*checks Colts' sked*

Yeah, they've played one team with a winning record coming into that week. They lost. They play the Texans weeks 15 and 17.
 
2012-11-27 01:29:51 PM
So, who won the Butt Fumble award this week?
 
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