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(Huffington Post)   The number of underage sex allegations against the Elmo puppeteer are rising, may soon need The Count to keep track of them   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 177
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2012-11-27 01:56:48 PM

syberpud: They smell blood in the water. Elmo is a cash cow (toys, books, he's King of all Children's Media) so here's a chance to get some sweet settlement to keep moms and dads buying Elmo products for their kids.

They (the accusers) know PBS/Sesame Workshop would rather settle a (potentially) false lawsuit than have a public fight about it.


Huh?
PBS/CTVW/Sesame Street are NOT involved in this in any way, shape or form.

On the other hand - nice to see that someone presented as a gay role model turns out to be just as sleazy/skeezy as any normal person. Yeah, I said 'normal'; gays are 3% of the population and gay pedophiles an even smaller percentage so neither qualifies as 'normal'.
 
2012-11-27 01:57:09 PM

Eats Kittens: LonMead: "Mr. Looper used to warn me about adults who played with kids all day."
 
Looper?


Let me adjust the onion on my belt and tell you about Mr. Cooper, the old guy who ran the store on Sesame Street. Big Bird always called him 'Mr. Looper' for some reason. When the actor who played him passed away in real life, they dealt with his death on the show (very well, I remember). I have to wonder if they'll try to work this issue into the show as a "teaching moment, and have Elmo try to explain pedophilia to Big Bird.
 
2012-11-27 01:57:54 PM
'Tickle me Elmo' was not a request, sir
 
2012-11-27 01:58:02 PM

Flakeloaf: vermicious k'nid: Joe Blowme: Let's see, 16..... not mature enought to drive past midnight, cant drink, can only have so many in the car when they drive, cant go to R rated movie.... but some of you think they have capacity to "consent" to sex and its ok because they were/maybe legal age of consent? Wow, i wonder if you would feel the need to defend him if he was banging 16 year old chicks or is it because he is gay and this might look bad on that whole protected class thing?

/know how i know defenders have no kids?


[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x349]

Please note the dark blue areas where they also think that a 16 yr old can consent to sex.

Then shove your head back up your arse so you don't have to think about yucky ghey sex anymore. 
/know how I know you're a redneck jackass?

In that big blue area up top, a sixteen year old cannot consent to sex with a 35 year old man.


Does that only apply to Canada or are there similar stipulations in the US?
/will rescind if so
 
2012-11-27 02:01:19 PM
"My Gosh, it just feels all oogy now that Kevin Clash makes well over a million dollars a year. I already had a piece, but I need another."

/Won't someone think of the poor, disadvantaged gay teens of ten years ago who trolled for gay sex on gay chat boards.
 
2012-11-27 02:01:24 PM

fluffy2097: Mitt Romney says he wants to destroy sesame street.

Suddenly gay sex allegations start flooding in where there were none for decades...

hmmmm.......


Farking allah, you're a moron.
Romney said NO such thing, only that the company that owns Sesame Street was getting millions in unneeded funding from the government.

Buddah on bicycle, people like you are shiate.
 
2012-11-27 02:02:35 PM

vermicious k'nid: Joe Blowme: Let's see, 16..... not mature enought to drive past midnight, cant drink, can only have so many in the car when they drive, cant go to R rated movie.... but some of you think they have capacity to "consent" to sex and its ok because they were/maybe legal age of consent? Wow, i wonder if you would feel the need to defend him if he was banging 16 year old chicks or is it because he is gay and this might look bad on that whole protected class thing?

/know how i know defenders have no kids?


[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x349]

Please note the dark blue areas where they also think that a 16 yr old can consent to sex.

Then shove your head back up your arse so you don't have to think about yucky ghey sex anymore. 
/know how I know you're a redneck jackass?



HAHAHAh what a maroon!! No R rated movies but yes to sex? Sorry if you have gayophobia and think sex is yucky but to each his own.
/know how i know you are only 13?
 
2012-11-27 02:07:41 PM
dl.dropbox.com
 
2012-11-27 02:09:48 PM

vermicious k'nid: Flakeloaf: vermicious k'nid: Joe Blowme: Let's see, 16..... not mature enought to drive past midnight, cant drink, can only have so many in the car when they drive, cant go to R rated movie.... but some of you think they have capacity to "consent" to sex and its ok because they were/maybe legal age of consent? Wow, i wonder if you would feel the need to defend him if he was banging 16 year old chicks or is it because he is gay and this might look bad on that whole protected class thing?

/know how i know defenders have no kids?


[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x349]

Please note the dark blue areas where they also think that a 16 yr old can consent to sex.

Then shove your head back up your arse so you don't have to think about yucky ghey sex anymore. 
/know how I know you're a redneck jackass?

In that big blue area up top, a sixteen year old cannot consent to sex with a 35 year old man.

Does that only apply to Canada or are there similar stipulations in the US?
/will rescind if so


No idea. It was until recently the case here that a fourteen year old could consent to non-anal sex with anyone other than someone with whom they had a relationship based on trust, authority or discipline. That's since been adjusted to sixteen with a near-age exemption for teenagers that's somewhat complicated and mostly doesn't apply to adults, and I sincerely doubt the anal part would ever be upheld by even a superiour court judge.
 
2012-11-27 02:11:50 PM

keypusher:
You think the Catholic church scandals were all about 11 year old choir boys?


No, there were far more than 11 of 'em.
 
2012-11-27 02:12:50 PM

vermicious k'nid: Joe Blowme: Let's see, 16..... not mature enought to drive past midnight, cant drink, can only have so many in the car when they drive, cant go to R rated movie.... but some of you think they have capacity to "consent" to sex and its ok because they were/maybe legal age of consent? Wow, i wonder if you would feel the need to defend him if he was banging 16 year old chicks or is it because he is gay and this might look bad on that whole protected class thing?

/know how i know defenders have no kids?


[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x349]

Please note the dark blue areas where they also think that a 16 yr old can consent to sex.

Then shove your head back up your arse so you don't have to think about yucky ghey sex anymore. 
/know how I know you're a redneck jackass?


There was a time in my life -- and in the life of all girls -- when 16-year-old boys were predators.

/gender preference doesn't affect hormonal surge strength
 
2012-11-27 02:14:23 PM
Key question:

Did Sesame Workshop know about the abuse and suppress it, threatening to fire employees that witnessed said abuse?

/$125K payoff to recant tells me something
 
2012-11-27 02:19:18 PM

OniExpress: 16yo hooks up with a guy on a site for guys to hook up.... profit?

Sorry, don't get that one.


Your dad don't love you cuz yer gay so you seek out a surrogate. Also they want to fark you. I'm not a psychologist, I think I heard this in a bad movie, or possibly a good movie.

People in positions like this really should be more careful. Being gay is enough liability (in the eyes of some people). Having hookups is a liability for anyone. Having gay hookups when you're the frelling voice of Elmo is pretty unwise, regardless of the ages.

Hooray gay promiscuity culture!
 
2012-11-27 02:23:31 PM

AbsentFriends: DerpHerder: So now willfully engaging in and seeking out sexual encounters is "technical rape"... He also wasn't using his position to initiate these encounters (which is what most molestors do) he did although it would seem enage in sex with a few minors of the age of 16 who were willing partisipants. Unless there is evidence of some intent to find 16yr olds and or continued relations after having become aware of their age i dont see something worth a lawsuit. As for not going to the police its obvious they lack evidence, and or are looking only for a pay day.

I believe the phrase you are looking for is "statutory rape". As in "too young to legally give consent".


Hence why I used quotations when using my own vernacular. I'm sure a lot of people were confused though.
 
2012-11-27 02:24:16 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Key question:

Did Sesame Workshop know about the abuse and suppress it, threatening to fire employees that witnessed said abuse?

/$125K payoff to recant tells me something


You're assuming the payoff came from the muppets. Clash likely Jacksoned(*) it away.

(*)The act of responding to a false rape accusation by paying the accuser to go away. To make a false accusation intended to extract such a payment is called Chandlering.
 
2012-11-27 02:25:40 PM

Joe Blowme: Let's see, 16..... not mature enought to drive past midnight, cant drink, can only have so many in the car when they drive, cant go to R rated movie.... but some of you think they have capacity to "consent" to sex and its ok because they were/maybe legal age of consent? Wow, i wonder if you would feel the need to defend him if he was banging 16 year old chicks or is it because he is gay and this might look bad on that whole protected class thing?

/know how i know defenders have no kids?


I had none of those limits on driving when I was 16 and was watching Silence of the Lambs, Rocky Horror and the like pretty regularly at 13. Even at 16, without Internet, I had some easy access to hardcore porn. I wonder who I should sue.

Thanks for pointing out how bad we're babying teenagers nowadays.
 
2012-11-27 02:27:00 PM

vermicious k'nid: Flakeloaf: vermicious k'nid: Joe Blowme: Let's see, 16..... not mature enought to drive past midnight, cant drink, can only have so many in the car when they drive, cant go to R rated movie.... but some of you think they have capacity to "consent" to sex and its ok because they were/maybe legal age of consent? Wow, i wonder if you would feel the need to defend him if he was banging 16 year old chicks or is it because he is gay and this might look bad on that whole protected class thing?

/know how i know defenders have no kids?


[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x349]

Please note the dark blue areas where they also think that a 16 yr old can consent to sex.

Then shove your head back up your arse so you don't have to think about yucky ghey sex anymore. 
/know how I know you're a redneck jackass?

In that big blue area up top, a sixteen year old cannot consent to sex with a 35 year old man.

Does that only apply to Canada or are there similar stipulations in the US?
/will rescind if so


Actually the age of consent in Canada _is_ 16 unless there's a "position of trust or authority" situation (teacher, doctor, etc), a "relationship of dependency", or if the relationship is "exploitative". Then the age of consent is 18. Lots of US states have a similar thing if their general age of consent is under 18. And most places, including Canada, also have "close in age" exceptions, also known as "Romeo & Juliet" laws.
 
2012-11-27 02:30:22 PM

Ranger677: david_gaithersburg: Ranger677: OK, so if these actually happened, why are we only hearing about lawsuits? Why go directly to CTW? Shouldn't they be going to, you know, the police? There is no Statute of Limitations with this type of crime anymore, so it is not that it happened years ago.

Money grab. Plain and simple.

.
Hmm, is that your response to all of the charges against priests?

In those cases, there has at LEAST been a police investigation, if not charges and findings of guilt first. Here, it is straight to "give me some money".


Really? Every time? And you know this how?
 
2012-11-27 02:36:15 PM

Pants full of macaroni!!: Tomorrow's headline: Elmo's puppeteer commits suicide.


No, he is just going to curl up in a ball, everyone knows that Puppeteers are cowards.
 
2012-11-27 02:37:00 PM

dragyne: Rapmaster2000: Would you be offended if you knew the Elmo puppeteer when you were underage and he never put the moves on you?

Ironically I did know him I was an extra for sesame place a few times when I was young. Guess I was ugly.


I don't think that's a good example of irony.
 
2012-11-27 02:38:06 PM

LonMead: Mr. Looper used to warn me about adults who played with kids all day.


Eats Kittens: Looper?


LonMead: Let me adjust the onion on my belt and tell you about Mr. Cooper, the old guy who ran the store on Sesame Street. Big Bird always called him 'Mr. Looper' for some reason


Oh, for farks sake. Hooper. His name was Hooper

images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org
 
2012-11-27 02:39:49 PM

Disposable Rob: Joe Blowme: Let's see, 16..... not mature enought to drive past midnight, cant drink, can only have so many in the car when they drive, cant go to R rated movie.... but some of you think they have capacity to "consent" to sex and its ok because they were/maybe legal age of consent? Wow, i wonder if you would feel the need to defend him if he was banging 16 year old chicks or is it because he is gay and this might look bad on that whole protected class thing?

/know how i know defenders have no kids?

I had none of those limits on driving when I was 16 and was watching Silence of the Lambs, Rocky Horror and the like pretty regularly at 13. Even at 16, without Internet, I had some easy access to hardcore porn. I wonder who I should sue.

.


you want to sue someone because you broke rules?
Wut?
gimme, gimme, gimme.
 
2012-11-27 02:40:52 PM

grokca: Pants full of macaroni!!: Tomorrow's headline: Elmo's puppeteer commits suicide.

No, he is just going to curl up in a ball, everyone knows that Puppeteers are cowards.


You magnificent bastard.
 
2012-11-27 02:42:51 PM
There are enough people coming out that you have to investigate it.

Kinda like if 3 people call you a duck, you may want to check for feathers.
 
2012-11-27 02:43:27 PM

fluffy2097: Mitt Romney says he wants to destroy sesame street.

Suddenly gay sex allegations start flooding in where there were none for decades...

hmmmm.......


And then the groundfires start burning, multiple allegations are being made and need to be counted, and The Count ends up dead. This doesn't add up. This doesn't add up at all!
 
2012-11-27 02:44:04 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: So, anyone seen T.M.S. lately?
[img545.imageshack.us image 650x525]

/check the filename
//and lulz de lulz


The funny thing is that is actually Kevin's hand inside that muppet.
 
2012-11-27 02:44:31 PM

Ctrl-Alt-Del: Oh, for farks sake. Hooper. His name was Hooper


You are correct.

A thousand pardons.

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2012-11-27 02:48:53 PM

keypusher: Ranger677: david_gaithersburg: Ranger677: OK, so if these actually happened, why are we only hearing about lawsuits? Why go directly to CTW? Shouldn't they be going to, you know, the police? There is no Statute of Limitations with this type of crime anymore, so it is not that it happened years ago.

Money grab. Plain and simple.

.
Hmm, is that your response to all of the charges against priests?

In those cases, there has at LEAST been a police investigation, if not charges and findings of guilt first. Here, it is straight to "give me some money".

Really? Every time? And you know this how?


I don't. And maybe not every time (although there should be). But getting back to this case, why are the cops not involved? They should at least be looking into it since it went public, but I have not seen ANY mention of them at all.
 
2012-11-27 02:49:09 PM

LonMead: Ctrl-Alt-Del: Oh, for farks sake. Hooper. His name was Hooper

You are correct.

A thousand pardons.


I see the face of Elmo in that wall of pardons.
 
2012-11-27 02:49:13 PM

LonMead: Ctrl-Alt-Del: Oh, for farks sake. Hooper. His name was Hooper

You are correct.

A thousand pardons.

Pardon ...


(1000! 1000 Pardons ah ah ahhhh!)
 
2012-11-27 02:49:31 PM

Ctrl-Alt-Del: LonMead: Mr. Looper used to warn me about adults who played with kids all day.

Eats Kittens: Looper?

LonMead: Let me adjust the onion on my belt and tell you about Mr. Cooper, the old guy who ran the store on Sesame Street. Big Bird always called him 'Mr. Looper' for some reason

Oh, for farks sake. Hooper. His name was Hooper

[images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org image 300x419]


Guys, I think we're arguing about the wrong Willy here.
 
2012-11-27 02:49:56 PM

Ranger677: I don't. And maybe not every time (although there should be). But getting back to this case, why are the cops not involved? They should at least be looking into it since it went public, but I have not seen ANY mention of them at all.


And, as we all know, if YOU don't see it, it doesn't exist.
 
2012-11-27 02:58:05 PM
I often stop to wonder in this crazy time that we live in what impact the number of people who absolutely despise Elmo (you know, before these allegations even) have on this sort of situation. Seriously. I do. With everything else up in the air, I really don't see any more crucial question to be asked in this PR miasma we sometimes accurately dub "the court of public opinion".


What I do know is that- true or not- this man no longer has a career.

Not because it's fair, or because it makes a lick of rational sense, but because the concept that childrens' performers can and very often do have sex lives outside of their careers is something the American public copes with about as good as any herd of prepubescent teenagers discovering their dad's stash of Playboys for the very first time does.
 
2012-11-27 02:59:02 PM
Is this going to be like with Michael Jackson, where as the story got more and more attention more and more people "came out" accusing him of molesting their kids, only for them to admit later that they lied and only wanted money and attention?
 
2012-11-27 03:04:16 PM

Theaetetus:
Evidence of what? That they had sex?
The only dispute here is was the boy 17 or 16 when they had sex.


Yes, evidence that he was underage. Crikey.
If these guys were looking for anything more than a payout, they would have gone to the police with evidence first. It's a lot easier to win a civil case if you have a criminal conviction behind it.
 
2012-11-27 03:08:22 PM
It's interesting to me that the guys aren't reporting these low-level crimes to the police (in Maryland, where Clash is from, 16 is the age of consent, and 15 is a fine and/or up to 1 year in jail, don't know about other states). Instead, they're going to the media and filing high-dollar lawsuits.

Let this be a lesson: always check government-issued IDs before sleeping with a random hook-up with anybody who looks under 21.
 
2012-11-27 03:10:12 PM
They are only harassing this poor man because he's gay.


And also because he rapes teenage boys. (Statuatorially anyway.)
 
2012-11-27 03:20:47 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: So, anyone seen T.M.S. lately?
[img545.imageshack.us image 650x525]

/check the filename
//and lulz de lulz


Suddenly I'm hungry a bowl of colon blow
 
2012-11-27 03:21:22 PM

Hyatus: Theaetetus:
Evidence of what? That they had sex?
The only dispute here is was the boy 17 or 16 when they had sex.

Yes, evidence that he was underage. Crikey.
If these guys were looking for anything more than a payout, they would have gone to the police with evidence first. It's a lot easier to win a civil case if you have a criminal conviction behind it.


Yes, because the burden of proof in a criminal case is higher than the burden of proof in a civil case. If they have sufficient evidence that a jury is 90% sure that they were underage, that is way more than enough for a civil case, but not enough for a criminal case. That they can't get to a 99.999% sureness level doesn't suddenly mean they have no evidence, or that they're lying or just looking for a payout.
 
2012-11-27 03:22:49 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: Is this going to be like with Michael Jackson, where as the story got more and more attention more and more people "came out" accusing him of molesting their kids, only for them to admit later that they lied and only wanted money and attention?


I hope that is true.
I really do.
If so I hope the accusers get jail time.
 
2012-11-27 03:24:56 PM
I am so sad about this.

THe documentary about him was so good.
 
2012-11-27 03:25:04 PM

T.M.S.: /check the filename

The funny thing is that is actually Kevin's hand inside that muppet.


Ah I get it now.
 
2012-11-27 03:26:42 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: Is this going to be like with Michael Jackson, where as the story got more and more attention more and more people "came out" accusing him of molesting their kids, only for them to admit later that they lied and only wanted money and attention?


Except Jackson paid out multi millions of dollars in hush money and nobody recanted. They had just signed confidentiality agreements. Michael Jackson was a child molester.
 
2012-11-27 03:33:10 PM
"Da Count? He stole my act! Bastard is not even Romanian!"

/obscure
 
2012-11-27 03:36:34 PM

jodaveki: OniExpress: 16yo hooks up with a guy on a site for guys to hook up.... profit?

Sorry, don't get that one.

People in positions like this really should be more careful. Being gay is enough liability (in the eyes of some people). Having hookups is a liability for anyone. Having gay hookups when you're the frelling voice of Elmo is pretty unwise, regardless of the ages.

Hoping this gets taken care of with a minimum of collateral damage.

Ah, but the actual damage is ok. And I'm confused as to how working on a kids show makes sex in your personal life off-limits. The only thing that's making this news is the accusers allege they were minors. The only way your caution makes sense is if you're equating homosexuals with pederasts.


Imma gonna assume you're trolling, but answer anyway:

First off, don't talk to me about "damage" with what little we know of the situation; 16yo boys going onto gay hookup sites and following through with the guys they meet are hardly "damaged" outside of going "oh, that was stupid" a few years down the line. If it's happened two years later the only difference would be that they would have perhaps been more embarrassed than money-hungry and have kept their mouth shut. If the allegations are true, that he committed a legal offense but that's it.

Next, adults having consensual sex together loses people their jobs all the farking time. You think Mr Rogers would have kept his job if a video of him and Mrs Rogers doing the Singapore Shuffle had leaked? Let alone outside of marriage/committed relationship. You don't have to be gay or working in a child-related field for a public sex scandal to lose you your job, and it sure as hell doesn't need to be a law broken.

My caution is that people in the public eye need to keep their crotches sealed up more often, not because I give a shiat about the situation, but because there's a heck of a lot of idiots out there who do.

Send a "hidden tape" of yourself into work anonymously. See how long you remain employed.
 
2012-11-27 03:43:47 PM
So these homos go trolling the gay chats to get laid, and find out a decade later the dude who porked them has cash, so now it's time to get all lawyer'd up?

How do we not call them prostitutes?
 
2012-11-27 03:46:38 PM

obamadidcoke: This could get confusing for the cops.

"Could you show me on this puppet where the puppet touched you?"


I giggled and now feel dirty.
 
2012-11-27 04:00:00 PM

jodaveki: And I'm confused as to how working on a kids show makes sex in your personal life off-limits.


Not sex - random casual sex, promiscuity. It gives some random person with whom you have no emotional relationship leverage against your status or money. The cheapness of this kind of "hook-up" is the downside. Someone brought up Savage's "campsite" rule where an older man should leave a younger man in a better place after their relationship, and not the opposite. This doesn't really work for a half hour fark.

/That documentary didn't do him any favors. He had a fairly anonymous yet lucrative job before.
//of course the twinks said they were 18. They probably said they were 21.
 
2012-11-27 04:00:15 PM

Baelz: So these homos go trolling the gay chats to get laid, and find out a decade later the dude who porked them has cash, so now it's time to get all lawyer'd up?

How do we not call them prostitutes?


well they want it to be a learning experiment for people of the future. to NOT use chatrooms to get laid.
 
2012-11-27 04:01:46 PM

Phoenix_M: Keizer_Ghidorah: Is this going to be like with Michael Jackson, where as the story got more and more attention more and more people "came out" accusing him of molesting their kids, only for them to admit later that they lied and only wanted money and attention?

Except Jackson paid out multi millions of dollars in hush money and nobody recanted. They had just signed confidentiality agreements. Michael Jackson was a child molester.


The original accusers admitted they lied after Michael died.
 
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