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(Talking Points Memo)   Fox News says interviewee apologized for calling Fox a "wing of the Republican party." Interviewee: Nope   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 269
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2012-11-27 10:33:36 AM  
Clemente told THR via email. "He apologized in our offices afterward but doesn't have the strength of character to do that publicly."


Libel lawsuit, anyone?
 
2012-11-27 10:34:56 AM  
Can we have more of this, please?
 
2012-11-27 10:35:23 AM  

markie_farkie: Clemente told THR via email. "He apologized in our offices afterward but doesn't have the strength of character to do that publicly."


Libel lawsuit, anyone?


That's what I was wondering.
 
2012-11-27 10:44:10 AM  

Cythraul: markie_farkie: Clemente told THR via email. "He apologized in our offices afterward but doesn't have the strength of character to do that publicly."


Libel lawsuit, anyone?

That's what I was wondering.


I'm not sure. If he said sorry at all while he was in the studio, that probably will fall flat. Fox's lawyers will twist everything so that any use of the word means they didn't flat out make up quotes.
 
2012-11-27 10:45:20 AM  

Cythraul: markie_farkie: Clemente told THR via email. "He apologized in our offices afterward but doesn't have the strength of character to do that publicly."


Libel lawsuit, anyone?

That's what I was wondering.


The tort of liable requires proof of both an intentionally false statement and damage to reputation. Fox did this guy a favor.
 
2012-11-27 10:46:49 AM  

GAT_00: I'm not sure. If he said sorry at all while he was in the studio, that probably will fall flat. Fox's lawyers will twist everything so that any use of the word means they didn't flat out make up quotes.


I was focusing more on the "but doesn't have the strength of character to do that publicly." bit.

Stating that as fact, rather than just questioning his character opens the doors for a libel lawsuit.
 
2012-11-27 11:00:24 AM  
Would they have been more offended if he call them "The Liberal Media?"
 
2012-11-27 11:00:38 AM  

"Please ask Mr. Clemente what the words of my supposed apology were. I'd be interested to know," Ricks said. "Frankly, I don't remember any such apology."


Ah, the Reagan defense.

Also not the same as "I did not make an apology".
 
2012-11-27 11:00:49 AM  
Another scandal has hit the second tower!
 
2012-11-27 11:01:05 AM  
Clemente accused Ricks of using the interview to generate publicity for his new book, The Generals

But your network talked the book up to give this guy cred when you thought he was going to deliver a narrative you prefer.
 
2012-11-27 11:01:20 AM  
FOX cannot have their audience exposed to too much reality. It hurts the ratings.
 
2012-11-27 11:01:40 AM  

BritneysSpeculum: Cythraul: markie_farkie: Clemente told THR via email. "He apologized in our offices afterward but doesn't have the strength of character to do that publicly."


Libel lawsuit, anyone?

That's what I was wondering.

The tort of liable requires proof of both an intentionally false statement and damage to reputation. Fox did this guy a favor.


While I'm sure they'd argue it was in court, being accused of apologizing to Fox News is anything but a favor.
 
2012-11-27 11:02:03 AM  

markie_farkie: Clemente told THR via email. "He apologized in our offices afterward but doesn't have the strength of character to do that publicly."


Libel lawsuit, anyone?


No, he apologied to their offices. You know, that they felt they they were hurt by his statement.
 
2012-11-27 11:02:37 AM  

GAT_00: Cythraul: markie_farkie: Clemente told THR via email. "He apologized in our offices afterward but doesn't have the strength of character to do that publicly."


Libel lawsuit, anyone?

That's what I was wondering.

I'm not sure. If he said sorry at all while he was in the studio, that probably will fall flat. Fox's lawyers will twist everything so that any use of the word means they didn't flat out make up quotes.


That's interesting though -- theoretically Fox could use that for every single commentator that goes to their studio and doesn't toe the party line. Maybe they could have an intern bump into them and spill coffee on themselves or something so they say "sorry".
 
2012-11-27 11:02:44 AM  
Until democrats and anyone who doesn't agree with fox news starts to boycott it they will be able to continue to appear like a legitimate news agency.
 
2012-11-27 11:03:38 AM  
This is all just a big distraction from the real issue. Benghazi.

Its a scandal of Whitewater proportions with a Vince Foster Lewinski thrown in.
 
2012-11-27 11:03:57 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: FOX cannot have their audience exposed to too much reality. It hurts the ratings.


Facts are the devil.
 
2012-11-27 11:04:41 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: FOX cannot have their audience exposed to too much reality. It hurts the ratings.


Sadly (for society), this is true.
 
2012-11-27 11:04:50 AM  
What a bunch of spineless pussies. This guest they invited just called their entire network out and they let him walk away without so much as a rebuttle or parting shot? Ha! Then to make matters worse they go and try to blast him behind his back instead of confronting him directly. Which he then AGAIN crushes them with a quick comment. Amazing.

Fox News = teenage girl
 
2012-11-27 11:05:47 AM  

Headso: Until democrats and anyone who doesn't agree with fox news starts to boycott it they will be able to continue to appear like a legitimate news agency.


I never watch Fox News, so I'm good.
 
2012-11-27 11:05:49 AM  

Arkanaut: That's interesting though -- theoretically Fox could use that for every single commentator that goes to their studio and doesn't toe the party line. Maybe they could have an intern bump into them and spill coffee on themselves or something so they say "sorry".


That'ld only work on the Canadians tho..

/sorry
 
2012-11-27 11:06:53 AM  
I'm guessing it was along the lines of "Hey, sorry I called you out on national TV, but someone had to do it....."
 
2012-11-27 11:07:00 AM  

markie_farkie: Clemente told THR via email. "He apologized in our offices afterward but doesn't have the strength of character to do that publicly."


Libel lawsuit, anyone?


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/might not happen
//but just to make Ailes have to publicly apologize
///and (as always) for the lulz
 
2012-11-27 11:07:30 AM  

HellRaisingHoosier:
Fox News = teenage girl


Oh, don't THEY toss a tantrum when they get called on their BS,
 
2012-11-27 11:08:04 AM  

markie_farkie: Clemente told THR via email. "He apologized in our offices afterward but doesn't have the strength of character to do that publicly."


Libel lawsuit, anyone?


Libel pertains to people only, not corporate entities. Moreover, libel pertains to publishing false statements about people. In this case, Fox itself aired the statement, so they are the de facto publisher.
 
2012-11-27 11:08:10 AM  
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2012-11-27 11:08:10 AM  
As opposed to the MSM, the wing of the Democratic Party.

It really BUGS Farkistan that a dissident news agency exists....
 
2012-11-27 11:08:26 AM  
This is what happens when you wander into The Land of Make-shiat-Up.
 
2012-11-27 11:09:28 AM  

mark12A: As opposed to the MSM, the wing of the Democratic Party.

It really BUGS Farkistan that a dissident news agency exists....



Keep farking that 40 year old chicken.
 
2012-11-27 11:09:39 AM  

physt: Another scandal has hit the second tower!


For once, that symbolism works.
Fox wouldn't be Fox if it wasn't the "second tower"
 
2012-11-27 11:11:08 AM  
This simple shows his bias in thinking that anyone who doesn't agree with the NYTimes or WaPo is a 'wing of the Republican party', especially FNC.

Fox NEWS - not commentators - is certainly more balanced than any other MSM and the Leftists know it; that's why they complain about it so much.
 
2012-11-27 11:11:21 AM  

Cythraul: Headso: Until democrats and anyone who doesn't agree with fox news starts to boycott it they will be able to continue to appear like a legitimate news agency.

I never watch Fox News, so I'm good.


I should have said boycott going on fox news, watch it all you want...
 
2012-11-27 11:14:21 AM  

mark12A: As opposed to the MSM, the wing of the Democratic Party.

It really BUGS Farkistan that a dissident news agency exists....


You sound BUGGED.
 
2012-11-27 11:14:51 AM  

mark12A: As opposed to the MSM, the wing of the Democratic Party.


What is the most popular cable news channel? How is that not "mainstream?" Just because they don't treat "facts" and "truth" and "reporting" with any professional standards in mind doesn't mean that they aren't mainstream. Hell, they're extremely popular with old, white people; how much more "establishment" can you get?
 
2012-11-27 11:14:57 AM  

mark12A: As opposed to the MSM, the wing of the Democratic Party.

It really BUGS Farkistan that a dissident news agency exists....


Ah yes, Fox News, the little underdog news station that could! And simultaneously, the most watched, most influential, most highly rated news station evar!
 
2012-11-27 11:15:10 AM  

mark12A: As opposed to the MSM, the wing of the Democratic Party.

It really BUGS Farkistan that a dissident news agency exists....


Does it really bug you that FNC is the top rated news channel thereby making it, by definition of the very word, mainstream?
 
2012-11-27 11:15:34 AM  
Wait a minute: So FOX News, the de facto media wing of the Republican Party, has a problem with the truth? I, for one, am shocked.
 
2012-11-27 11:16:29 AM  

mark12A: As opposed to the MSM, the wing of the Democratic Party.

It really BUGS Farkistan that a dissident news agency exists....


lol.
 
2012-11-27 11:17:47 AM  
Fox is only exceptional because ALL OTHER MEDIA is a wing of the Democrat party.

(Excepting the WSJ, most of the time.)
 
2012-11-27 11:20:18 AM  

JackieRabbit: markie_farkie: Clemente told THR via email. "He apologized in our offices afterward but doesn't have the strength of character to do that publicly."


Libel lawsuit, anyone?

Libel pertains to people only, not corporate entities. Moreover, libel pertains to publishing false statements about people. In this case, Fox itself aired the statement, so they are the de facto publisher.


Clemente might personally be on the hook for defamation, although it'd be hard and expensive to prove actual damages. This is more of a "trial by media" issue than actual trial, I think.
 
2012-11-27 11:20:40 AM  

sodomizer: Fox is only exceptional because ALL OTHER MEDIA is a wing of the Democrat party.

(Excepting the WSJ, most of the time.)



Translation: everything but Fox News is not biased enough toward the GOP for me
 
2012-11-27 11:20:53 AM  

sodomizer: Fox is only exceptional because ALL OTHER MEDIA is a wing of the Democrat party.

(Excepting the WSJ, most of the time.)


And the Romney landslide proved how accurate they are. suck it libs!
 
2012-11-27 11:21:58 AM  

freetomato: mark12A: As opposed to the MSM, the wing of the Democratic Party.

It really BUGS Farkistan that a dissident news agency exists....

Ah yes, Fox News, the little underdog news station that could! And simultaneously, the most watched, most influential, most highly rated news station evar!


That's so litterally 1984-style doublethink, it's scary.
 
2012-11-27 11:22:07 AM  

mark12A: As opposed to the MSM, the wing of the Democratic Party.

It really BUGS Farkistan that a dissident news agency exists....


What bugs me is that people think FOX is "news". It's not. The closest analogy on TV is pro wrestling, but without the tights or gay innuendo.
 
2012-11-27 11:22:59 AM  

douchebag/hater: Fox NEWS - not commentators - is certainly more balanced than any other MSM and the Leftists know it; that's why they complain about it so much.


Ricks' comment was not directed at the news division. But you knew that.
 
2012-11-27 11:23:15 AM  
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2012-11-27 11:23:49 AM  
"This is one sorry news organization."
"I'm beginning to feel sorry I agreed to this interview; appearing on such a sorry assed channel might hurt my credibility."

"THERE, he said sorry three times!"
 
2012-11-27 11:24:05 AM  

sodomizer: Fox is only exceptional because ALL OTHER MEDIA is a wing of the Democrat party.

(Excepting the WSJ, most of the time.)




You appear to be quite intelligent. I look forward to reading more of your posts in this thread, and in many others in the future.
 
2012-11-27 11:24:41 AM  
Fears News is the propaganda wing of the Republican party
 
2012-11-27 11:25:09 AM  
Clemente accused Ricks of using the interview to generate publicity for his new book, The Generals

Next you'll tell me that the only reason Charlize Theron goes on the Tonight Show is to promote her own movies.
 
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