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2012-11-27 10:16:29 AM
Christie is one of the most popular Republicans.

My anec-data is that liberals I know from New Jersey tend to like Christie more than they like most Republicans, but conservatives from New Jersey tend to like Cory Booker more than they like most Democrats. I do hope Booker runs against Christie and I really hope neither of them gets more partisan about stuff than they have in the past. It would actually be a fun race to watch.
 
2012-11-27 10:27:40 AM
He just dropped the partisan grandstanding in order to show himself as a leader in the face of a natural disaster.....his PR actions have been scripted to project this because he wants a shot in 2016. If he doesn't fark up the rebuilding and can keep fraud/wasted money in check he will be one hell of a strong contender.
 
2012-11-27 10:30:26 AM

Citrate1007: He just dropped the partisan grandstanding in order to show himself as a leader in the face of a natural disaster.....his PR actions have been scripted to project this because he wants a shot in 2016. If he doesn't fark up the rebuilding and can keep fraud/wasted money in check he will be one hell of a strong contender.


And he got thrown down by his own party because he didn't push Obama when they were together. I'm hoping that makes him go 'Fark you guys' and he focuses less on doing GOP goals.
 
2012-11-27 10:30:32 AM
A big part of me feels as if Christie has seen the writing on the wall and decided to be one of the first to abandon the partisan nonsense in favor of working with a majority Senate and popular President.

His constituents love him for it, but that won't win him a Nominee spot in 2016. Especially if the GOP continues its Derp Civil War.
 
2012-11-27 10:32:50 AM

Citrate1007: .....his PR actions have been scripted


www.nypost.com
 
2012-11-27 10:33:11 AM

NeverDrunk23: Citrate1007: He just dropped the partisan grandstanding in order to show himself as a leader in the face of a natural disaster.....his PR actions have been scripted to project this because he wants a shot in 2016. If he doesn't fark up the rebuilding and can keep fraud/wasted money in check he will be one hell of a strong contender.

And he got thrown down by his own party because he didn't push Obama when they were together. I'm hoping that makes him go 'Fark you guys' and he focuses less on doing GOP goals.


If you haven't noticed, Republicans have very, very short memories.
 
2012-11-27 10:35:27 AM

NeverDrunk23: And he got thrown down by his own party


Thats what, a handful of bloggers or something?
 
2012-11-27 10:36:38 AM

Giltric: Citrate1007: .....his PR actions have been scripted

[www.nypost.com image 500x380]


Well no shiat Sherlock, the POTUS has a legion of puppetiers... that's nothing new. Christy was willing to use that for the iconic ice cream cone photos to his advantage because unlike most GOP candidates he isn't reactionary but is playing for the long game. It is one of the main reasons he didn't run this last election, he knew the GOP candidate would have an uphill battle.
 
2012-11-27 10:38:07 AM

mahuika: Christie is one of the most popular Republicans.

My anec-data is that liberals I know from New Jersey tend to like Christie more than they like most Republicans, but conservatives from New Jersey tend to like Cory Booker more than they like most Democrats. I do hope Booker runs against Christie and I really hope neither of them gets more partisan about stuff than they have in the past. It would actually be a fun race to watch.


Plus when Christie literally eats Cory Booker during the first debate, that will be cool to see
 
2012-11-27 10:48:47 AM

mahuika: Christie is one of the most popular Republicans.

My anec-data is that liberals I know from New Jersey tend to like Christie more than they like most Republicans, but conservatives from New Jersey tend to like Cory Booker more than they like most Democrats. I do hope Booker runs against Christie and I really hope neither of them gets more partisan about stuff than they have in the past. It would actually be a fun race to watch.


Booker is going places. It's absurd, but I want him running the country in 2016.
 
2012-11-27 10:53:26 AM
Booker has been pretty adamant that he wants to remain mayor, though. I wouldn't mind seeing him governor, but on the other paw, he's done a lot of good to Newark.
 
2012-11-27 10:54:07 AM
Well sure. When shiat hit the fan, when his state was in some serious farking trouble, he did his farking job.

And yes, that may mean actually talking to that guy in the White House. Something that most conservatives fail to comprehend.

Now, will those numbers 'stay' that high? Probably not, but for Christie... it means that early fund raising for his next race is going to be easy as all farking hell.
 
2012-11-27 10:55:12 AM

GAT_00: mahuika: Christie is one of the most popular Republicans.

My anec-data is that liberals I know from New Jersey tend to like Christie more than they like most Republicans, but conservatives from New Jersey tend to like Cory Booker more than they like most Democrats. I do hope Booker runs against Christie and I really hope neither of them gets more partisan about stuff than they have in the past. It would actually be a fun race to watch.

Booker is going places. It's absurd, but I want him running the country in 2016.


Agreed. It's not going to happen, though. Maybe in 2020.
 
2012-11-27 10:56:33 AM

mahuika: Christie is one of the most popular Republicans.

My anec-data is that liberals I know from New Jersey tend to like Christie more than they like most Republicans, but conservatives from New Jersey tend to like Cory Booker more than they like most Democrats. I do hope Booker runs against Christie and I really hope neither of them gets more partisan about stuff than they have in the past. It would actually be a fun race to watch.


Christie is just another in a long line of crazy governors. We haven't had a governor who was reasonably well-liked since probably Kean. Florio was hated by Republicans almost as much as Teabaggers hate Obama, and just as unfairly. His ideas weren't unreasonable but it was his "my way or the highway" attitude that killed him. Whitman was a clueless disaster. "OMG, black kids are having a contest to see how many welfare babies they can make!" "Oh, EZ-Pass will pay for itself through tickets from everyone who won't understand how it works!" "Hey, officer--I know you didn't find anything on that black kid but do you mind if I frisk him, too? And make sure you get my good side when you take the picture!" "Oh, my campaign promise of cutting income tax by 10% caused a huge budgetary shortfall? Whatever--let's repeal Florio's extra 1% sales tax while we're at it. Maybe that'll help." OMG, it was just mind-boggling.

DiFrancesco wasn't bad but he wasn't governor--he was just filling in after Christie (mercifully) left. Then we had a string of acting governors until McGreevey. There was a glimmer of hope there until all these corruption scandals about almost all of his appointees started cropping up. Then, after he was caught having an affair, we found out that he tried to have his gay lover, who couldn't get security clearance, appointed as head of DHS.

Corzine wasn't horrible, he just seemed bad at playing NJ politics and looked at everything from a businessman's perspective. That doesn't work here--too many moving parts and too many extremes. Also, he seemed unable to deflect bad press and GOP sound bites. When he won, he was accused of "buying votes" because he'd spent so much much money on his campaign (mind you, when Bloomberg did the same damn thing 2 years later, that was perfectly okay). And, he was a Democrat looking at a budget shortfall. NJ's technically a blue state but you wouldn't know that if you lived here. Corzine wanted to put in tax increases to balance the budget and the state went batshiat insane. And then he raised the tolls on the highways, wanted to privatize them, and I can't even remember what else, it got so lost in all the noise.

Christie takes care of his wealthy donors and big business buddies. He tried to break the NJEA and, even a week after Sandy, was still rattling his saber at them (they canceled their annual convention in AC and he wanted the teachers to get back to work during those days, threatening the union if they balked. But, since so many schools were still closed from the storm--damage, no power, displaced students--it was a pointless threat). HOWEVER, you'd be hard-pressed to find one person here who will criticize him over his handling of Sandy. I've seen interviews, he's done a live call-in show on local radio, he's been hands-on...the guy's been absolutely fantastic.

We're all just waiting to see what happens a year from now when most of the state has recovered from this and he's back to day-to-day administrating.
 
2012-11-27 10:58:23 AM

NeverDrunk23: Citrate1007: He just dropped the partisan grandstanding in order to show himself as a leader in the face of a natural disaster.....his PR actions have been scripted to project this because he wants a shot in 2016. If he doesn't fark up the rebuilding and can keep fraud/wasted money in check he will be one hell of a strong contender.

And he got thrown down by his own party because he didn't push Obama when they were together. I'm hoping that makes him go 'Fark you guys' and he focuses less on doing GOP goals.


Well, he *did* apply for re-election yesterday. It could just be a ploy so as not to tip his hand towards a 2016 run. Or it could mean he told the GOP leaders just that and decided he'd ride the wave of current goodwill from his constituents and be a big fish in a little pond (no pun intended)
 
2012-11-27 11:32:32 AM
Hold on, you people are missing the important part... what can you get at a Portuguese buffet?
 
2012-11-27 11:44:50 AM
Booker is probably on the fast track in the Democratic party as long as he doesn't do something crazy. The DNC will probably be looking at him for a Senate seat or Congressional seat unless Christie really looks vulnerable. I don't think they'd waste him in a potentially losing effort. We're several years away from seeing Booker on a national stage but it will happen.
 
2012-11-27 11:50:15 AM
Eh, don't give a flying fark about Christie, really...

But now I want some pork and littlenecks for lunch.

www.qualitybeefcompany.com


Or maybe a Portuguese steak plate.

farm4.static.flickr.com


Mmmmmmm... Double starch.
 
2012-11-27 11:52:41 AM

GAT_00: Booker is going places. It's absurd, but I want him running the country in 2016.



He seems like one of those sci fi authors who are well known and well liked within a small group of hardcore fans...his political achievments don't get covered but his rescuing of a group of kittens from a woodchipper that is on fire and being lowered into a vat of acid full of acid proof sharks with lasers on their heads does......

Plus he doesn't drink, hes a vegetarian, and there is the possibility that he is gay......any of those alone makes him strange or suspicious to both republicans and democrats nationally.
 
2012-11-27 12:04:38 PM

keylock71: Eh, don't give a flying fark about Christie, really...

But now I want some pork and littlenecks for lunch.

[www.qualitybeefcompany.com image 328x258]


Or maybe a Portuguese steak plate.

[farm4.static.flickr.com image 500x375]


Mmmmmmm... Double starch.


Heh, that's one thing I miss about living in New Jersey. Used to have meetings all the time at NJT's HQ in downtown Newark, would usually get breakfast or lunch at one of the Portuguese diners next to it.
 
2012-11-27 12:10:23 PM

Giltric: Plus he doesn't drink, hes a vegetarian, and there is the possibility that he is gay......any of those alone makes him strange or suspicious to both republicans and democrats nationally.


Do you know WHO ELSE didn't drink, was a vegetarian and possibly gay?
 
2012-11-27 12:42:35 PM

keylock71: Eh, don't give a flying fark about Christie, really...

But now I want some pork and littlenecks for lunch.

[www.qualitybeefcompany.com image 328x258]


Or maybe a Portuguese steak plate.

[farm4.static.flickr.com image 500x375]


Mmmmmmm... Double starch.


The words "Portuguese steak plate" are now burned forever into my memory. I shall eat this dish, sir. I shall eat it all up.
 
2012-11-27 12:45:09 PM
Anyone who knows anything about Cory Booker knows that he's not interested in Governor position anytime soon. He still has, self admittedly, a lot more to do in Newark.
 
2012-11-27 12:52:53 PM
Besides having a (D) vs. an (R) next to their name, is there any reason to think they're rivals? I would think they would work well together. I can easily imagine Christie running for President as Governor in 2016, and endorsing Booker to replace him during the general election.

I don't think anybody's beating Christie if he gets the nomination (and doesn't have a heart attack).
 
2012-11-27 01:13:03 PM

The Martian Manhandler: Hold on, you people are missing the important part... what can you get at a Portuguese buffet?


There used to be a great Portugese buffet in, well, in Portugal, along the banks of the Douro, called Tromba Rija---I don't know if other locations exist or if they're all out of business now.

When I first went to Portugal to see my future in-laws, we went to the buffet on the last day of the trip. They had just spent 2 weeks feeding me everything they could think of, and the Tromba Rija at the end was like a review session of the whole trip. Before we walked in, my father-in-law took me aside and said, "let me explain something to you: eating is work. This is going to be work." I swear I was the reason the plane took longer to fly back.

No "Portugese steak plates," though. They do have something called a Francesinha, which is a stack of steak, cheese, sausage, toast, ham, optional egg on top, surrounded by fries and covered in sauce:

www2.worldpub.net

Also fun to eat: blood rice, tripe, sow's ears, and camel's drool. That might not sound appetizing, but that's a trick the Portuguese use to keep all of their food to themselves.
 
2012-11-27 01:27:41 PM

Xcott: The Martian Manhandler: Hold on, you people are missing the important part... what can you get at a Portuguese buffet?

There used to be a great Portugese buffet in, well, in Portugal, along the banks of the Douro, called Tromba Rija---I don't know if other locations exist or if they're all out of business now.

When I first went to Portugal to see my future in-laws, we went to the buffet on the last day of the trip. They had just spent 2 weeks feeding me everything they could think of, and the Tromba Rija at the end was like a review session of the whole trip. Before we walked in, my father-in-law took me aside and said, "let me explain something to you: eating is work. This is going to be work." I swear I was the reason the plane took longer to fly back.

No "Portugese steak plates," though. They do have something called a Francesinha, which is a stack of steak, cheese, sausage, toast, ham, optional egg on top, surrounded by fries and covered in sauce:

[www2.worldpub.net image 400x266]

Also fun to eat: blood rice, tripe, sow's ears, and camel's drool. That might not sound appetizing, but that's a trick the Portuguese use to keep all of their food to themselves.


Thanks. That sandwich looks pretty tasty, but I'm not sure that I'm going to go all the way to Portugal for one.
 
2012-11-27 01:32:50 PM
I'd like him more if it weren't for his anti-gay crap.
 
2012-11-27 01:33:03 PM

The Martian Manhandler: Hold on, you people are missing the important part... what can you get at a Portuguese buffet?


Ignore what the other amatures are saying.

What you want to do is go and find yourself a good Rodizio restraunt.
Those other Porteugese dishes listed are slave food fit for people who couldn't sail and leave Europe.

media-cdn.tripadvisor.com
 
2012-11-27 01:58:23 PM
I think Christie did the math and realized that his long-term prospects are at the state level and acted accordingly. There's not going to be another President with an "R" next to their name for several decades if ever. It will still be a viable party at the District level for a while, but may end up breaking up in the out years.
 
2012-11-27 02:09:25 PM
newspaper.li
Miss me yet?
 
2012-11-27 02:15:43 PM

mahuika: Christie is one of the most popular Republicans.

My anec-data is that liberals I know from New Jersey tend to like Christie more than they like most Republicans, but conservatives from New Jersey tend to like Cory Booker more than they like most Democrats. I do hope Booker runs against Christie and I really hope neither of them gets more partisan about stuff than they have in the past. It would actually be a fun race to watch.


This.
 
2012-11-27 02:32:37 PM

67 Beetle: I think Christie did the math and realized that his long-term prospects are at the state level and acted accordingly. There's not going to be another President with an "R" next to their name for several decades if ever. It will still be a viable party at the District level for a while, but may end up breaking up in the out years.


It depends on the platform. There are a lot of "conservative" ideas that are palatable to the masses. A Republican could easily win presidency next election.

That's a prediction said before the farkery of the House for the next four years, mind you. Don't hold it against me.
 
2012-11-27 02:35:55 PM

The Martian Manhandler: Thanks. That sandwich looks pretty tasty, but I'm not sure that I'm going to go all the way to Portugal for one.


You can make it yourself, but the hard part is the sauce.
 
2012-11-27 02:40:11 PM

Rich Cream: [newspaper.li image 263x302]
Miss me yet?


Nope, your butt should be in jail
 
2012-11-27 02:43:36 PM

Giltric: Ignore what the other amatures are saying.

What you want to do is go and find yourself a good Rodizio restraunt.
Those other Porteugese dishes listed are slave food fit for people who couldn't sail and leave Europe.


That looks good, but we're talking about Portuguese food. "Rodizio" sounds Portuguese, but that's only because Brazilian sounds like Portuguese.

/...as spoken by Mush Mouth from Fat Albert
 
2012-11-27 02:53:34 PM

Lollipop165: mahuika: Christie is one of the most popular Republicans.

My anec-data is that liberals I know from New Jersey tend to like Christie more than they like most Republicans, but conservatives from New Jersey tend to like Cory Booker more than they like most Democrats. I do hope Booker runs against Christie and I really hope neither of them gets more partisan about stuff than they have in the past. It would actually be a fun race to watch.

This.


Booker will not run against Christie, they are actually friends, Booker will probably run in the next cycle and probably will win.

If Christ Christie gets the nomination in 2016, he will be able to challenge the Democrats in the North East, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Connecticuit, New Hampshire, and even possibly New York, could be in play. With the Electoral votes from these states, Florida and Ohio would become irrelevent, like they should be.New Jersey does not have a large statewide news station, so he gets most of his facetime on New York and Philadelphia news channels. If Christie runs in 2016, 2016 electoral map could get interesting....
 
2012-11-27 02:54:25 PM

Xcott: Giltric: Ignore what the other amatures are saying.

What you want to do is go and find yourself a good Rodizio restraunt.
Those other Porteugese dishes listed are slave food fit for people who couldn't sail and leave Europe.


That looks good, but we're talking about Portuguese food. "Rodizio" sounds Portuguese, but that's only because Brazilian sounds like Portuguese.

/...as spoken by Mush Mouth from Fat Albert


Exactly... Calling a Portuguese person Brazilian or visa versa is grounds for a fist fight in my neck of the woods (Fall River, MA - 47% of residents are of Portuguese ancestry or Portuguese immigrants)

I also wouldn't be taking advice from some babaca who can't even spell "Portuguese" correctly.
 
2012-11-27 08:03:16 PM

keylock71: Xcott: Giltric: Ignore what the other amatures are saying.

What you want to do is go and find yourself a good Rodizio restraunt.
Those other Porteugese dishes listed are slave food fit for people who couldn't sail and leave Europe.


That looks good, but we're talking about Portuguese food. "Rodizio" sounds Portuguese, but that's only because Brazilian sounds like Portuguese.

/...as spoken by Mush Mouth from Fat Albert

Exactly... Calling a Portuguese person Brazilian or visa versa is grounds for a fist fight in my neck of the woods (Fall River, MA - 47% of residents are of Portuguese ancestry or Portuguese immigrants)

I also wouldn't be taking advice from some babaca who can't even spell "Portuguese" correctly.


So falls river gets to claim portugese ancestry but the blahzillians dont?


I wonder why......
 
2012-11-27 10:13:42 PM

Giltric: So falls river gets to claim portugese ancestry but the blahzillians dont?

I wonder why......


Anyone can claim Portuguese ancestry, but that doesn't mean you're "Portuguese." If you can vote in an election in Portugal, you're Portuguese.

If you have Portugese "ancestry," big whoop: the Portuguese were freakin' everywhere. They introduced the ukelele to Hawaii, introduced tempura to Japan, and coined the Korean word for bread. That doesn't mean that your country's food is "Portuguese food."

That's like people in Fall River calling themselves British subjects because they speak "English."
 
2012-11-28 03:31:40 AM
So Christie cashed in on a disaster to make him appear more human.

*shrugs*

F*rk him.
 
2012-11-28 07:32:50 AM

Giltric: So falls river gets to claim portugese ancestry but the blahzillians dont?


I wonder why......


You should learn more about Fall River, and you won't have to be ignorant on the subject anymore.


Xcott: Anyone can claim Portuguese ancestry, but that doesn't mean you're "Portuguese." If you can vote in an election in Portugal, you're Portuguese.

If you have Portugese "ancestry," big whoop: the Portuguese were freakin' everywhere. They introduced the ukelele to Hawaii, introduced tempura to Japan, and coined the Korean word for bread. That doesn't mean that your country's food is "Portuguese food."

That's like people in Fall River calling themselves British subjects because they speak "English."


We have one of the largest Portuguese Immigrant communities in the country... There was a huge wave of Portuguese immigrants into the city during the 50s and 60s, so it's stands to reason almost half of the city is populated with folks of Portuguese roots. Most of the folks here in Fall River are Azorean. Fall River and New Bedford have had large Portuguese communities going back to the 19th century due to the Whaling and Textile industries that were.

They're still immigrating here, too because of family ties to Portugal. The best part is all the great Portuguese restaurants around here. We're right on the coast, too, so Portuguese immigrants and fresh seafood (New Bedford still has one of the largest commercial fishing fleets in the country) all in the same place means amazing food.

Not much else going on here, to be sure, but there's that. : )
 
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