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(NPR)   Here's a thoughtful stocking stuffer for an older teen who could use a backup plan   (npr.org) divider line 128
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2012-11-27 10:05:39 AM
This must be for teens who regularly get their stocking stuffed, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
 
2012-11-27 11:14:44 AM
From: Dad
To: Daddy's Little Whore
 
2012-11-27 12:37:51 PM
I bought one of those to keep around in case of emergency. God knows I don't need a little Clark Jr. running around right now.
 
2012-11-27 12:40:04 PM
Or you could say; What's wrong with you people? Can't you stop farking for 5 minutes? Or at least find a more permanent solution then the morning after pill?
 
2012-11-27 12:40:08 PM
Teens have sex. Get over it.
 
2012-11-27 12:40:19 PM
i1151.photobucket.com
It beats the crap out of the wire coat-hanger my dad left in MY stocking back in the day!
Ah, who am I kidding? I haven't been fertile since the Reagan era!
 
2012-11-27 12:42:47 PM
Why just older teens? Why should ordinary teens (and pre-teens) miss out on all the fun?
 
2012-11-27 12:43:39 PM

Cythraul: From: Dad
To: Daddy's Little Whore


A joke, but there's tons of people who see providing their kids with healthy non-shady resources like this as tantamount to encouraging prostitution. Bums me out, let humans be themselves and be smart about it instead of plunging your ears and pretending your kids are special.

My gf in HS had a pill script and it was basically the best thing ever. I still wore a condom when I had one available though just because I was terrified of being a dad in HS like a few of my classmates became, wanted to live it up solo-style until at least age 28.
 
2012-11-27 12:44:36 PM
So, what you're saying is, make it a stocking stuffer before their stockings are stuffed?
 
2012-11-27 12:44:44 PM
why not just add the morning after pill to lite beer and wine coolers?
 
2012-11-27 12:45:53 PM

kbronsito: why not just add the morning after pill to lite beer and wine coolers?


Gay men have enough problems.
 
2012-11-27 12:46:04 PM
This thread should consist mostly of civil, well reasoned debate.
 
2012-11-27 12:46:18 PM

Cythraul: From: Dad
To: Daddy's Little Whore


And we're done
 
2012-11-27 12:46:21 PM

Grapple: Teens have sex. Get over it.


Recognizing that teens have sex, does not mean that we should be handing out abortion pills like a pedo hands out free candy.
 
2012-11-27 12:46:50 PM
You could also just shoot the first one that pokes around your daughter. Word will get around
 
2012-11-27 12:47:04 PM
I was seriously thinking a Crashplan or Backblaze gift subscription would be a nice gift for a child leaving for college.

I guess I'm not as perverse as I thought.
 
2012-11-27 12:47:31 PM

Electromax: My gf in HS had a pill script and it was basically the best thing ever.


I was in high school in the mid-90s and EVERYONE had a prescription for the pill. If you didn't, you were stupid or not having sex. I just went to my doctor when I was 16 - said "I need the Pill" and he said "Sure, here you go!"

WHY IS THIS SO HARD?
 
2012-11-27 12:49:50 PM
... Sometimes, I fear big pharma. Not because of any conspiracy, but because they just want to make a quick buck.

This is one of those times. I'm not against protecting oneself from making any mistakes, but I think in the end, it's all about personal responsibility.
 
2012-11-27 12:50:57 PM
From what I've heard, the morning after pill is its own birth-control enabler; the will to avoid violent nausea is a bit of a brake on the will to get off.
 
2012-11-27 12:51:33 PM
Sex should have consequences! ..that is why God sends STDs and babies! Without the consequences people would...*gasp*...have sex!...without God's intended consequences!

/nevermind the fact that people have sex with the consequences anyway, but still
 
2012-11-27 12:53:29 PM

asmodeus224: /nevermind the fact that people have sex with the consequences anyway, but still


You got the herp too, eh? Sucks, don't it?
 
2012-11-27 12:53:32 PM
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2012-11-27 12:46:18 PM


Cythraul: From: Dad
To: Daddy's Little Whore

And we're done




Yes, every single woman who has sex is, in fact, a whore.
Like your wife and mother.
 
2012-11-27 12:54:16 PM

CygnusDarius: ... Sometimes, I fear big pharma. Not because of any conspiracy, but because they just want to make a quick buck.

This is one of those times. I'm not against protecting oneself from making any mistakes, but I think in the end, it's all about personal responsibility.


How is it not personal responsibility to take this pill? It seems eminently responsible to me.
 
2012-11-27 12:56:16 PM
Abstinence is also a form of extremely early abortion.
 
2012-11-27 12:58:05 PM

Civchic: Electromax: My gf in HS had a pill script and it was basically the best thing ever.

I was in high school in the mid-90s and EVERYONE had a prescription for the pill. If you didn't, you were stupid or not having sex. I just went to my doctor when I was 16 - said "I need the Pill" and he said "Sure, here you go!"

WHY IS THIS SO HARD?


Because I'm thinking about you, babe.
 
2012-11-27 01:01:35 PM

BigBooper: Grapple: Teens have sex. Get over it.

Recognizing that teens have sex, does not mean that we should be handing out abortion pills like a pedo hands out free candy.


Every egg is sacred! Menstruation is murder!
 
2012-11-27 01:01:59 PM

BigBooper: Grapple: Teens have sex. Get over it.

Recognizing that teens have sex, does not mean that we should be handing out abortion pills like a pedo hands out free candy.


Would you rather they sneak around being unsafe and unprotected and creating more problems? Should making something like a morning after pill *available* (note: it's not a forced medication like blood pressure medication for instance) rouse such an outrage?
 
2012-11-27 01:03:31 PM

doubled99: Yes, every single woman who has sex is, in fact, a whore.
Like your wife and mother.


You've met my Mother? and I'd pay good money for my wife to act like a whore.
 
2012-11-27 01:04:30 PM
This is unnecessary. As we all know, teens would never dream of having sex.
 
2012-11-27 01:05:46 PM

BigBooper: Grapple: Teens have sex. Get over it.

Recognizing that teens have sex, does not mean that we should be handing out abortion pills like a pedo hands out free candy.


Morning after pill is NOT the abortion pill. You're thinking of RU486.

Morning after pill stops the egg from being fertilized It does not terminate a pregnancy (which is why you need to take it the "morning after" or at least within a couple of days because there is only a short window of time between sex and fertilization).

Once the egg has been fertilized, taking the pill won't do a damn thing.
 
2012-11-27 01:07:42 PM
I still haven't figured out how normal BC pills still require a prescription while Plan B is OTC (over 18 anyway). The former will probably be OTC soon enough. Rather than bothering with the Plan B prescription for your under-18 child, you might just buy a box ("for Mom") and leave it in a readily-accessible medicine cabinet with no questions asked.

Probably the best thing I've had for recognizing teen sex was in a church (well, Unitarian) Sunday school class. We (11-year-olds, I think) all were handed a $5 bill. We were instructed to go in pairs to the grocery or drugstore, buy condoms, and bring them to next week's class. Compared labels and prices, etc. But, mostly, get over the "OMG someone will see me buying condoms" bit at a young age.
 
2012-11-27 01:08:39 PM
A guy walks into a pharmacy and says "My 10 year old daughter needs condoms". The Pharmacist is shocks. "Your 10 year old daughter is sexually ative?!?!" The man replies, "Not really, just mostly just lays therelike her mom does."



Civchic: Electromax: My gf in HS had a pill script and it was basically the best thing ever.

I was in high school in the mid-90s and EVERYONE had a prescription for the pill. If you didn't, you were stupid or not having sex. I just went to my doctor when I was 16 - said "I need the Pill" and he said "Sure, here you go!"

WHY IS THIS SO HARD?


Some chicks have nasty side effects.

FTFA:
Currently, you need a doctor's prescription to purchase emergency contraception, such as Plan B, if you are under 17.

So I can buy one without a scrip and keep it around just in case?

/I don't plan to ignore the fact that it is likely my daughter will be sexually active when she is a teen
 
2012-11-27 01:09:28 PM

CygnusDarius: ... Sometimes, I fear big pharma. Not because of any conspiracy, but because they just want to make a quick buck.

This is one of those times. I'm not against protecting oneself from making any mistakes, but I think in the end, it's all about personal responsibility.


How is it encouraging personal responsibility to take away a responsible option?
 
2012-11-27 01:14:23 PM
In before the right wingnuts and bible thumpers throw massive unwarranted tantrums while foaming at the mouth.
 
2012-11-27 01:15:18 PM

jst3p: So I can buy one without a scrip and keep it around just in case?


If you are over 18, then yes, you could.

Lawnchair: I still haven't figured out how normal BC pills still require a prescription while Plan B is OTC (over 18 anyway).


I've read that they're considering making birth control OTC. It would increase access (no doctor's appointment needed and likely also end it as a political football in insurance discussions (most insurance companies won't pay for OTC meds... you can get a prescription for them sometimes, but even then they're often so inexpensive they are under the copay... BC is something like nine bucks).

The hiccup is that some women can indeed have negative reactions to birth control pills. But then, as with any OTC med, if you have a problem, see your doctor.
 
2012-11-27 01:21:48 PM

H31N0US: This thread should consist mostly of civil, well reasoned debate.


This is becoming the new Boobies.
 
2012-11-27 01:32:46 PM

jst3p: /I don't plan to ignore the fact that it is likely my daughter will be sexually active when she is a teen


Agreed. I'd rather she didn't have, but the last thing I want her to do is run around in secret without protection and ruin her life. Need a Morning-After pill? Here you go. Going out on a date? You better believe she'll have a condom somewhere in her purse.
 
2012-11-27 01:32:55 PM

iheartscotch: Or you could say; What's wrong with you people? Can't you stop farking for 5 minutes? Or at least find a more permanent solution then the morning after pill?


The local PP writes a prescription for the morning after pill with every BC prescription. That way if something happens and you want to really make sure you're not going to get pregnant, you don't have to make an appointment.

\Not that I can imagine a lot of non-rape scenarios where someone on BC already would think it's necessary, but I still see why they do it.
 
2012-11-27 01:33:05 PM
We should really keep this to a mature discussion. For instance, I could say:

"To all of you saying that teens have sex 'get over it'. That's not really a valid argument. I want names! And phone numbers. A recent photo would be helpful too."

But I would never lower myself to say such a thing.
 
2012-11-27 01:33:06 PM

akula: jst3p: So I can buy one without a scrip and keep it around just in case?

If you are over 18, then yes, you could.

Lawnchair: I still haven't figured out how normal BC pills still require a prescription while Plan B is OTC (over 18 anyway).

I've read that they're considering making birth control OTC. It would increase access (no doctor's appointment needed and likely also end it as a political football in insurance discussions (most insurance companies won't pay for OTC meds... you can get a prescription for them sometimes, but even then they're often so inexpensive they are under the copay... BC is something like nine bucks).

The hiccup is that some women can indeed have negative reactions to birth control pills. But then, as with any OTC med, if you have a problem, see your doctor.


The age was lowered to 17 in 2009.

I don't think this should be taught as a valid birth control option...

If you are not going to parent your child, give them birth control pills and teach them about condoms...

\\I really needed another reason to ignore the AAP...
 
2012-11-27 01:35:44 PM
So, like buying a plunger before you need a plunger.
 
2012-11-27 01:35:58 PM
I have mixed feelings about this. As a Christian, it makes me sad that society has come to this. As a honest and realistic Christian, I understand the temptation to get the schmickity schmackity. I'm engaged, and we have had pre-marital sex. I'm not proud of that, but at least I don't pretend I'm someone or something I'm not.

My fiancee has two great sons from her first marriage, 12 and 10 years old. I love them both to death, but I'm worried about what's going to happen with the youngest, as he reminds me of me at that age, but less willing to be disciplined, which he badly badly needs.

I honestly believe that abstinence is the best thing. Not because sex is evil, but because you need to build a serious relationship, a strong foundation to keep the relationship strong, and that can be near impossible to do if you become pregnant at an early age. The best relationships I've had were the ones where we agreed to wait. Unfortunately, because of the way society is today, it's getting harder and harder (no pun intended) to achieve that.

The future mrs stumpy and I want at least kid together, and we are both hoping it's a boy. I think, for whatever reason, life is just a little easier growing up for boys.

If we had a girl, would I want my little girl going on the pill? I honestly don't know. Am I condoning that behaviour I know is wrong, according to our beliefs, even though I have done the same thing? Or, am I just saying, ok, this is just an emergncy back up plan based on good intentions.

So difficult.

I don't know if I'm cut out for this parenting crap. I guess I know I'm a good person, I'm just really worried about screwing other people lives more than I already have.

I think it's time for a vasectomy, and to move in to some basement dwelling. My parents are dead, any farkers out there with parents looking for roomies?

I'm clean and keep to myself!
 
2012-11-27 01:38:35 PM

Electromax: let humans be themselves


But these "humans" are less than 18 years old -- and female at that. It's our duty to treat them as non-people until at least one of those conditions is resolved; anything less is un(?:patriotic|godly|moral).
 
2012-11-27 01:40:06 PM

Cythraul: From: Dad
To: Daddy's Little Whore


Coffee, keyboard, you know the drill...

/still laughing
 
2012-11-27 01:41:31 PM

UncleStumpy: I have mixed feelings about this...
I honestly believe that abstinence is the best thing. Not because sex is evil, but because you need to build a serious relationship, a strong foundation to keep the relationship strong, and that can be near impossible to do if you become pregnant at an early age.


But, since the morning after pill is one way to avoid "becom[ing] pregnant at an early age," why do you have any mixed feelings? If your goal was advocating for avoiding pregnancy, then you'd be all for this. Instead, it seems like you're actually advocating for avoiding sex.
 
2012-11-27 01:42:44 PM

Theaetetus: CygnusDarius: ... Sometimes, I fear big pharma. Not because of any conspiracy, but because they just want to make a quick buck.

This is one of those times. I'm not against protecting oneself from making any mistakes, but I think in the end, it's all about personal responsibility.

How is it encouraging personal responsibility to take away a responsible option?


I thought it was plain obvious that I don't like it. Sure, it'll help, but I like personal responsibility, it makes us grow up.
 
2012-11-27 01:43:05 PM

philotech: The age was lowered to 17 in 2009.

I don't think this should be taught as a valid birth control option...

If you are not going to parent your child, give them birth control pills and teach them about condoms...

\\I really needed another reason to ignore the AAP...


The point is to have a backup incase the planned method fails, kinda why they call it "Plan B".
 
2012-11-27 01:43:22 PM

UncleStumpy: I have mixed feelings about this. As a Christian,TLDR!


Kids need to be educated before they can do something about how to do something safely.
Otherwise, YOU are responsible for not warning them.
It's old tribal law.
White people have a different boogie man, because they aren't accountable for their crotch droppings.

If you worship a dead guy on a stick,
No wonder your kids are farking around behind your backs.
 
2012-11-27 01:44:17 PM

BigBooper: Grapple: Teens have sex. Get over it.

Recognizing that teens have sex, does not mean that we should be handing out abortion pills like a pedo hands out free candy.


You do know that it doesn't result in an abortion, but greatly lessens the chance of successful egg feteralization, right?

/not sure if serious
 
2012-11-27 01:45:00 PM

philotech: I don't think this should be taught as a valid birth control option


I don't think spare tires should be taught as a valid car repair option.
 
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