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(WTKR)   New surveillance video shows F-18 passing mere feet from the camera before crashing into an apartment complex in April. Amazingly no one died   (wtkr.com) divider line 120
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2012-11-27 07:55:58 AM
Needs a password? Fail.
 
2012-11-27 07:55:58 AM
Timex. It takes a lickin' and keeps in tickin'.
 
2012-11-27 07:57:53 AM
did pilots eject?
 
2012-11-27 07:58:20 AM
Well, that's the problem then. Why was the guy trying to get so close to the camera? Probably hot-dogging trying to make a new viral video called "F-18 buzzes apartment building OMG!"
 
2012-11-27 07:58:38 AM

Richard_The_Clown: Needs a password? Fail.


Oh, NOW it loads up! This was in my area. I had talked to a guy who lived there. Said he heard a loud boom and looked out his window and saw nothing but flames.
 
2012-11-27 08:01:22 AM
They call that carnage? It went through the space between two buildings, that does not equal carnage.
 
2012-11-27 08:03:03 AM
Um, it's now November.
 
2012-11-27 08:09:41 AM

Deep Contact: Um, it's now November.


img.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-27 08:16:12 AM

Deep Contact: Um, it's now November.


/check calendar
I missed Halloween again. :-(
 
2012-11-27 08:18:58 AM

Marshall Willenholly: Well, that's the problem then. Why was the guy trying to get so close to the camera?


farm6.staticflickr.com
 
2012-11-27 08:20:03 AM
As heavily populated as the area is, there have been very few incidents at Oceana that were a threat to residents.
 
2012-11-27 08:20:05 AM
FTFV:

"...driver didn't know how close he was to being part of this Good Friday Miracle..."


Well, when you put it that way, it sounds like a swell time!
 
2012-11-27 08:20:58 AM
SHOOM
 
2012-11-27 08:21:00 AM
Negative, Ghostrider, the apartment is full.
 
ows
2012-11-27 08:22:07 AM

BalugaJoe: did pilots eject?


prematurely yes, which in this case is good.
 
2012-11-27 08:23:36 AM
Was the pilot trying to moon the camera?
 
2012-11-27 08:24:48 AM

Unobtanium: Negative, Ghostrider, the apartment is full.


Damn that guy

/made me spill my coffee again!
 
2012-11-27 08:29:23 AM
You were in a 4g inverted dive?
Yes, ma'am.
At what range?
Um, about two meters. It was actually about one and a half I think. It was one and a half. I've got a great picture of it, and he's right there, must be one and a half.
Eh, lieutenant, what were you doing there?
Showing my RIO my new TV I got for my birthday, you can see it through the window
 
2012-11-27 08:31:53 AM

Shakespeare's Monkey: Marshall Willenholly: Well, that's the problem then. Why was the guy trying to get so close to the camera?


Thats an F-14
 
2012-11-27 08:35:32 AM

Mazzic518: Shakespeare's Monkey: Marshall Willenholly: Well, that's the problem then. Why was the guy trying to get so close to the camera?

Thats an F-14


BS. That's a F-15. But a brontosaurus is flying.
 
2012-11-27 08:37:10 AM

ows: prematurely yes, which in this case is good.


prematurely? No. That is what one would call, "the last possible moment before I die a fiery death."
 
2012-11-27 08:37:41 AM

fappomatic: As heavily populated as the area is, there have been very few incidents at Oceana that were a threat to residents.


I thought we were at war with Oceana....or is it Eastasia?
 
2012-11-27 08:38:07 AM
The official accident report on this crash (which I couldn't find again online) makes for an interesting read if you are into aviation. The pilots lost an engine while on their takeoff roll, and reasonably thought it was due to a tire failure (rubber ingestion by the engine isn't unheard of if the nose gear fails). They followed protocol and took off, then almost immediately lost most (but not all) thrust on the second engine for reasons unknown. Had they put the gear up and ditched their external tanks at that instant, they MIGHT have been able to limp it out to sea before ejecting. But their training said that with a tire failure you don't put the gear up, and you don't dump your fuel tanks over a populated area. So they flew the jet for about 90 seconds, ran out of airspeed, and ejected 50 feet above the ground (when they finally stalled and their jet stopped responding to control inputs and began to roll).

What makes the crash report interesting is that the lower level investigators put some blame on the pilots at first, saying that it was technically possible for the pilots to avoid the crash had they ditched the tanks and raised the gear. But then the SENIOR officials who had to sign off on the report said that was hogwash, and that the pilots had followed existing protocol to the letter. They said that naval aviation education about dual engine failure on takeoff was deficient, and that training needed to be changed and that the pilots did absolutely the best they could based on what they'd been taught. I was very impressed that in a high visibility accident like this, the senior brass did not throw the pilots under the bus but instead blamed the system (and the jet for failing).

/CSB (or at least I thought it was).
 
2012-11-27 08:39:38 AM

Marshall Willenholly: Mazzic518: Shakespeare's Monkey: Marshall Willenholly: Well, that's the problem then. Why was the guy trying to get so close to the camera?

Thats an F-14

BS. That's a F-15. But a brontosaurus is flying.


It is a cartoon jet, with aspects of both:
Parallel intakes (F-15) (F-14 are canted)
Tails directly on the engine pod (F-14) (F-15 tails are outboard of the engines)

/this discussion has been here before
 
2012-11-27 08:41:00 AM

Marshall Willenholly: Mazzic518: Shakespeare's Monkey: Marshall Willenholly: Well, that's the problem then. Why was the guy trying to get so close to the camera?

Thats an F-14

BS. That's a F-15. But a brontosaurus is flying.



It's looks like it has features of both, but it's supposed to be an F-14. The F-14 has the vertical stabilizers on the engine nacelles like in the picture (F-15 is offset). Also, the square "tip" between the tails/engines is an F-14 feature, not 15.
 
2012-11-27 08:41:44 AM

YouPeopleAreCrazy: Marshall Willenholly: Mazzic518: Shakespeare's Monkey: Marshall Willenholly: Well, that's the problem then. Why was the guy trying to get so close to the camera?

Thats an F-14

BS. That's a F-15. But a brontosaurus is flying.

It is a cartoon jet, with aspects of both:
Parallel intakes (F-15) (F-14 are canted)
Tails directly on the engine pod (F-14) (F-15 tails are outboard of the engines)

/this discussion has been here before




Damn you and well done, etc.
 
2012-11-27 08:42:11 AM

Marshall Willenholly: Mazzic518: Shakespeare's Monkey: Marshall Willenholly: Well, that's the problem then. Why was the guy trying to get so close to the camera?

Thats an F-14

BS. That's a F-15. But a brontosaurus is flying.


It's an SU-27 and a Velociraptor
 
2012-11-27 08:46:21 AM

YouPeopleAreCrazy: ows: prematurely yes, which in this case is good.

prematurely? No. That is what one would call, "the last possible moment before I die a fiery death."


And people say that romance is dead.
 
2012-11-27 08:46:47 AM

Embden.Meyerhof: FTFV:

"...driver didn't know how close he was to being part of this Good Friday Miracle..."


Well, when you put it that way, it sounds like a swell time!


My apartment and everything I own has been smashed and burned to slag. It's a miracle!
 
2012-11-27 08:49:46 AM
"Then families certifiable morons with small children ..."

FTFT
 
2012-11-27 08:51:01 AM

YouPeopleAreCrazy: Marshall Willenholly: Mazzic518: Shakespeare's Monkey: Marshall Willenholly: Well, that's the problem then. Why was the guy trying to get so close to the camera?

Thats an F-14

BS. That's a F-15. But a brontosaurus is flying.

It is a cartoon jet, with aspects of both:
Parallel intakes (F-15) (F-14 are canted)
Tails directly on the engine pod (F-14) (F-15 tails are outboard of the engines)

/this discussion has been here before


And it's obviously an allosaurus. But it is a cartoon
 
2012-11-27 08:51:13 AM

Embden.Meyerhof: YouPeopleAreCrazy: Marshall Willenholly: Mazzic518: Shakespeare's Monkey: Marshall Willenholly: Well, that's the problem then. Why was the guy trying to get so close to the camera?

Thats an F-14

BS. That's a F-15. But a brontosaurus is flying.

It is a cartoon jet, with aspects of both:
Parallel intakes (F-15) (F-14 are canted)
Tails directly on the engine pod (F-14) (F-15 tails are outboard of the engines)

/this discussion has been here before



Damn you and well done, etc.


It's an F-145.
 
2012-11-27 08:52:47 AM
I love the dude in the car who drives into the intersection, pauses as if to say to himself "Hmmm. Jet just crashed into that building. Oh well, I'd better get to work or my boss is going to be pissed," and then just drives away.

Here's to you, Mr. Not-impressed-by-a-plane-crash-guy. Your stoicism is amazing.
 
2012-11-27 08:53:13 AM
wyblog.us

Pffffft! Amateurs!
 
2012-11-27 08:55:15 AM

Warthog: The official accident report on this crash ...


Thanks. That is interesting.
 
2012-11-27 08:55:18 AM
THAT WAS A MISSILE SHEEPLE!1!1!

/Wharr is the debris WHARRRR??!?
 
2012-11-27 09:02:13 AM

RicosRoughnecks: THAT WAS A MISSILE SHEEPLE!1!1!

/Wharr is the debris WHARRRR??!?


torn off their hardpoints as it passed through apartment 12-J where that shirker Jo-Jo lives.
 
2012-11-27 09:03:36 AM

ows: BalugaJoe: did pilots eject?

prematurely yes, which in this case is good.


Not this shiat again. I was there for the original thread and had to deal with the same thing then.

The pilot rode that biatch damn near the whole way down. The photographic evidence supports it completely. The path of the ejection seat as it plowed through fences clearly shows a horizontal trajectory. The ONLY way that could happen in the pilot ejected at the last damn second after trying to salvage the situation as best as he could given the circumstances.
 
GBB
2012-11-27 09:05:57 AM
was this it?
t0.gstatic.com

//sorry, can't tell if report, most pics blocked at work.
///I know, I know. "GBTW!"
 
2012-11-27 09:07:47 AM

Warthog: The official accident report on this crash (which I couldn't find again online) makes for an interesting read if you are into aviation. The pilots lost an engine while on their takeoff roll, and reasonably thought it was due to a tire failure (rubber ingestion by the engine isn't unheard of if the nose gear fails). They followed protocol and took off, then almost immediately lost most (but not all) thrust on the second engine for reasons unknown. Had they put the gear up and ditched their external tanks at that instant, they MIGHT have been able to limp it out to sea before ejecting. But their training said that with a tire failure you don't put the gear up, and you don't dump your fuel tanks over a populated area. So they flew the jet for about 90 seconds, ran out of airspeed, and ejected 50 feet above the ground (when they finally stalled and their jet stopped responding to control inputs and began to roll).

What makes the crash report interesting is that the lower level investigators put some blame on the pilots at first, saying that it was technically possible for the pilots to avoid the crash had they ditched the tanks and raised the gear. But then the SENIOR officials who had to sign off on the report said that was hogwash, and that the pilots had followed existing protocol to the letter. They said that naval aviation education about dual engine failure on takeoff was deficient, and that training needed to be changed and that the pilots did absolutely the best they could based on what they'd been taught. I was very impressed that in a high visibility accident like this, the senior brass did not throw the pilots under the bus but instead blamed the system (and the jet for failing).

/CSB (or at least I thought it was).


There's a reason you can't find it online again, you know.
 
2012-11-27 09:10:48 AM
Technically any measurement can be defined as "mere feet"
 
2012-11-27 09:12:41 AM
"neighbors pore into the"

And that children, is how The Dumb begins. 


www.myfatpocket.com
 
2012-11-27 09:13:28 AM

BalugaJoe: did pilots eject?


Yes, both did, simultaneously, and prematurely I might add.
 
2012-11-27 09:21:27 AM
It's an F-14.5. And that's a T-Rex.
 
2012-11-27 09:25:02 AM
It's an C5-A. And that's a Trilobite.
 
2012-11-27 09:26:51 AM

GBB: was this it?
[t0.gstatic.com image 197x256]

//sorry, can't tell if report, most pics blocked at work.
///I know, I know. "GBTW!"


Excuse me, but WTF is that???
 
2012-11-27 09:27:47 AM
Marshall Willenholly

Mazzic518: Shakespeare's Monkey: Marshall Willenholly: Well, that's the problem then. Why was the guy trying to get so close to the camera?

Thats an F-14

BS. That's a F-15. But a brontosaurus is flying.

There's no such thing as a "Brontosaurus" 

-themoreyouknow.jpg-
 
2012-11-27 09:29:39 AM
So we have more video of this, than the jumbo who supposedly crashed into the pentagon with it's 50 or 70 surrounding cameras.
 
2012-11-27 09:29:57 AM

OnlyM3: There's no such thing as a "Brontosaurus" 

-themoreyouknow.jpg-


Riiighhhhtttt. Pull the other leg. Next thing you'll tell me is that there are only 8 planets...
 
2012-11-27 09:31:09 AM

bighairyguy: It's an C5-A. And that's a Trilobite.


WRONG WRONG WRONG.

It's obviously the Wright Flyer piloted by a housecat.
 
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