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2012-11-27 09:11:05 AM

TacoBeelzebub: The whole thing was just so ridiculous. Fluke was not asking for FREE/TAX-PAYER SUBSIDIZED birth control. She was asking that birth control be COVERED BY THE INSURANCE COMPANIES like boner pills are. Women would still have to pay a co-payment on the BC pills just like regular perscriptions and that's fine, they have no problem doing that.

Why does the GOP have this need to control women's sexuality? Are they scared of it?


The GOP aren't really scared,they just think women need to be punished for being sexually active.
 
2012-11-27 09:14:56 AM

incendi: Fluke, of course, is the condom rights advocate turned Georgetown Law School martyr who testified before Congress about the hardships encountered by young female law school students who couldn't afford to pay for their own birth control pills. Rush Limbaugh ripped her, prompting faux outcry from the left, all the way up to President Obama, who seized on the incident as proof that the right was waging some sort of war on women, as opposed to a battle against pathetic dependency on government. Obama called her personally, then used her as a campaign surrogate.


Uhh, I guess just refer to the initial comment in this thread.


Yeah I don't really get how they're still clinging to the idea that it's all about condoms (well I suppose Rush is to blame for that)... but seriously, the ignorance of the right wing when it comes to many other necessary uses of the BC pill, uses that matter regardless of sexual activity, is astounding.
 
2012-11-27 09:18:35 AM

shastacola: TacoBeelzebub: The whole thing was just so ridiculous. Fluke was not asking for FREE/TAX-PAYER SUBSIDIZED birth control. She was asking that birth control be COVERED BY THE INSURANCE COMPANIES like boner pills are. Women would still have to pay a co-payment on the BC pills just like regular perscriptions and that's fine, they have no problem doing that.

Why does the GOP have this need to control women's sexuality? Are they scared of it?

The GOP aren't really scared,they just think women need to be punished for being sexually active.


I never understood a supposed group of straight people taking that position.
Then again, as a friend said, if 10-year old boys could get pregnant, those priests that were making all the fuss over this would be handing out BC pills with every communion.
 
2012-11-27 09:24:52 AM
The Right Wing Noise Machine® took an unremarkable government functionary (Elizabeth Warren) and turned her into a United States Senator.

By all means, Deadmoran, let's keep talking about how horrible this young, bright, charismatic attorney is.

\ and how Romney lost because he wasn't conservative enough
\\ oh yeah, and don't throw me into the briar patch!
 
2012-11-27 09:25:58 AM
 
2012-11-27 09:27:48 AM

TacoBeelzebub: Why does the GOP have this need to control women's sexuality? Are they scared of it?


Many Republicans cling to a 2000-year-old moral code that tells them sex is naughty and should only be done in ways that aren't any fun, and that produce children inside a heterosexual marriage. They simply can't stand the fact that other folks are out there enjoying themselves, using sex non-procreatively. As a result, they try to stamp out anything that might encourage or be related to such behavior: birth control, porn, abortions, gay marriage, etc. It's a classic case of "I've decided that I can't have what you have therefore I'll prevent you from having it." It's a foolish, childish notion, like basically all of the GOP platform.
 
2012-11-27 09:34:35 AM
I like promiscuous women.
 
2012-11-27 09:34:50 AM

Antimatter: stoli n coke: Skarekrough: ManRay: The whole Fluke thing is the greatest troll ever pulled on the Republicans, and it is still paying off.

That there is an investment that is going to be giving a solid return for decades.

The Democrats just couldn't line up the Fundamentalists in just the right way to make it look like they were trying to deny rights to half of the voting populace. They tried with the anti-abortion movement but even then at its most radical they managed to screw it up; it didn't directly affect potential voters on a day-to-day basis like birth control does.

But Sandra Fluke.....that was the football the GOP willingly carried into their own end zone, and by Rush Limbaugh no less. Their brief victory dance was just delicious to watch. I realized even way back then that this was a story that had legs and as everyone was emitting a gasp I had a smile you couldn't get off my face. It was the beginning of the Great GOP Detonation of 2012.

Yep. In the months following this, she got Republican leaders and actual lawmakers to publicly admit they don't know how birth control pills or even female anatomy works and even got candidates addressing the lighter side of rape, costing them 2 races.

Forgive the pun, but this was the Democrats' Trojan Horse to draw out fundies and expose their pig-ignorance to the rest of the electorate.

Nope, it was just a girl who the GOP turned into a cause because they hate women, and couldn't stop putting their foot in their mouth.

Obama then masterfully used a bit of rope a dope to control the narrative for the entire election, by just repeating what the GOP was saying. He hardly even had to campaign, they literately did all the work for him.


I kind of disagree.

When the story broke the GOP was in the process of realizing that they'd done very little but be obstructionist for four years, both for the sake of denying Obama a second term but also for slowing down the Tea Partiers as much as they could.

It was important of them to acknowledge what their party stood for. It wasn't so much anti-women at its onset as it was pro-free market for insurance, pro-over-reaching rights for religious orgs coupled with some anti-intellectualism in the form of a college student who could be easily vilified as being a freeloader in a 20k-plus a semester college crying poor about paying for medical necessities.

And the Tea Partiers they so solidly tried to keep sequestered pounced at the chance to hold her up as the posterchild of what Entitled America looks like.

This all wouldn't have been a story had they not gone, time and time again, held her up and asked America "Isn't this what is wrong with America?" And America largely said "No."

In the long-term the Tea Party is going to be the gift that keeps on giving. The harder they whip up their supporters to make a spectacle of themselves the more the Democrats are going to look better to the majority of voters.
 
2012-11-27 09:35:38 AM
Good. We should encourage all women to sleep with so many men only the u.s. government could afford that much birth control.

Paradise here we come.
 
2012-11-27 09:37:35 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: TacoBeelzebub: Why does the GOP have this need to control women's sexuality? Are they scared of it?

Many Republicans cling to a 2000-year-old moral code that tells them sex is naughty and should only be done in ways that aren't any fun, and that produce children inside a heterosexual marriage. They simply can't stand the fact that other folks are out there enjoying themselves, using sex non-procreatively. As a result, they try to stamp out anything that might encourage or be related to such behavior: birth control, porn, abortions, gay marriage, etc. It's a classic case of "I've decided that I can't have what you have therefore I'll prevent you from having it." It's a foolish, childish notion, like basically all of the GOP platform.


Well, to borrow one of the GOP's favorite phrases "I got mine, so Fark You."
 
2012-11-27 09:37:53 AM

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Here is example of a real woman fighting real oppression. Not the Fluke roadshow.

You may have forgotten, Neda Soltani killed in Iran revolution

Link


So she was attacked by conservative hardliners too, eh?
 
2012-11-27 09:39:04 AM

Smackledorfer: Good. We should encourage all women to sleep with so many men only the u.s. government could afford that much birth control.

Paradise here we come.


Nope. Even under those ideal conditions, you still wouldn't get any.
 
2012-11-27 09:40:33 AM

HotWingConspiracy: So she was attacked by conservative hardliners too, eh?


C'mon, there's a difference. She was scapegoated by followers of a backward, misogynist ideology that demands submission from women, and the other one...wait, which one's the other one again?
 
2012-11-27 09:40:58 AM
While her actions, by testifying before congress, did have an impact on the United States, it hasn't had much of a world impact. While I like what she did, and the impact she had - exposing many more prominent Republican pundits and politicians as anti-woman - I feel the same way about her being on the list as I do Paul Ryan on there, whom I do not like. The influence is local, and ultimately very minor, particularly in comparison to several others on there. The person who got my vote is Malala, the young girl who desired an education and got shot in the head by the Taliban for it, because the impact her actions did and will continue to have reverberate around the entire f*cking planet.

Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if the people who work at Breitbart, American Thinker, WorldNetDaily, etc. are outraged that SHE is on the list of finalists as well, because thanks to Fluke we know now that their stance on women is about equal to their stance on Muslims.
 
2012-11-27 09:41:41 AM
Viagra is covered though, right? Right, Rush?
 
2012-11-27 09:42:17 AM
There once was a term for people who took responsibility for their own birth control, and could buy it by their very own selves.
What was it?
Oh yeah...
Being an adult.

Life was better when there was a stigma attached to being a twenty-something child.
 
2012-11-27 09:44:03 AM

theknuckler_33: Rush Limbaugh ripped her

Don't have enough conviction to write exactly what Rush said, eh?

Conservative "principles", ladies and gentlemen!


I don't know if it's lack of conviction, or simply embarrassment at the fact that Limbaugh's comments displayed a shocking lack of knowledge of basic female physiology. That, and the fact that he used a bizarrely 18th century insult like "round-heeled." WhoTF says that?
 
2012-11-27 09:44:09 AM

Polly Ester: There once was a term for people who took responsibility for their own birth control, and could buy it by their very own selves.
What was it?
Oh yeah...
Being an adult.

Life was better when there was a stigma attached to being a twenty-something child.


So you don't carry any health insurance and pay for all your procedures and prescriptions yourself right?
 
2012-11-27 09:46:17 AM

Polly Ester: There once was a term for people who took responsibility for their own birth control, and could buy it by their very own selves.
What was it?
Oh yeah...
Being an adult.

Life was better when there was a stigma attached to being a twenty-something child.


Didn't there used to be a stigma to being a sore loser?
 
2012-11-27 09:46:46 AM

Polly Ester: There once was a term for people who took responsibility for their own birth control, and could buy it by their very own selves.
What was it?
Oh yeah...
Being an adult.

Life was better when there was a stigma attached to being a twenty-something child.


Ramping it up for 2016 this early?

Hush now....you'll burn yourself out before you hand us the mid-terms.
 
2012-11-27 09:49:08 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: In case you forgot...

[ivn.us image 850x442]


that's the first time I've noticed they had the GOP's chosen rabbi there, never mind that most forms of Judaism allow for some form of abortion. Even the most strict say with in the first 40 days and at any time should the mothers life be in danger the life of the living mother is more important then the possible life of the fetus. I hope getting to play golf at their country clubs was worth it
 
2012-11-27 09:50:07 AM

Polly Ester: There once was a term for people who took responsibility for their own birth control, and could buy it by their very own selves.
What was it?
Oh yeah...
Being an adult.

Life was better when there was a stigma attached to being a twenty-something child.


Then you'll be glad to know that she was paying her own insurance premiums and drug co-pays.
 
2012-11-27 09:51:20 AM

Sgt Otter: Polly Ester: There once was a term for people who took responsibility for their own birth control, and could buy it by their very own selves.
What was it?
Oh yeah...
Being an adult.

Life was better when there was a stigma attached to being a twenty-something child.

Then you'll be glad to know that she was paying her own insurance premiums and drug co-pays.


Stop using facts to disprove what the man on my car's magic talking box told me.
 
2012-11-27 09:53:01 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: So you don't carry any health insurance and pay for all your procedures and prescriptions yourself right?


I don't have to force a catholic charity to buy condoms for me.
 
2012-11-27 09:53:48 AM

Skarekrough: But Sandra Fluke.....that was the football the GOP willingly carried into their own end zone, and by Rush Limbaugh no less. Their brief victory dance was just delicious to watch.


Seriously.

She was testifying in front of a bunch of Democrats rounded up look all official, not Congress. It was basically a press conference. The goal was to get her info into the news cycle and that was it. But the fundy wing of the Republican party bit on it hard and so far has not let go. It is amazing to watch.
 
2012-11-27 09:55:18 AM

Polly Ester: There once was a term for people who took responsibility for their own birth control, and could buy it by their very own selves.
What was it?
Oh yeah...
Being an adult.


I know I always feel tremendously immature when I look at the amount that is taken out of my paycheck for health insurance. It always makes me want to go out and screw around indiscriminately. I envy your maturity, being able to pay for your health care 100% out of pocket so that neither your employer nor the federal government bears any part of the cost. It must feel good to be that self-sufficient. I for one am relieved that my insurance premiums and tax dollars will not be put into any pool to pay for your eventual cancer treatments.
 
2012-11-27 09:55:40 AM

Polly Ester: Philip Francis Queeg: So you don't carry any health insurance and pay for all your procedures and prescriptions yourself right?

I don't have to force a catholic charity to buy condoms for me.


What an interesting digression, but let's return to the topic at hand..

Are you the type of irresponsible child who expects insurance to cover procedures and prescription drugs for you rather than being an adult and paying for them yourself?
 
2012-11-27 09:55:43 AM

Polly Ester: There once was a term for people who took responsibility for their own birth control, and could buy it by their very own selves.
What was it?
Oh yeah...
Being an adult.

Life was better when there was a stigma attached to being a twenty-something child.


Keep clinging to your dittohead mythology.
 
2012-11-27 09:55:46 AM

Antimatter: stoli n coke: Skarekrough: ManRay: The whole Fluke thing is the greatest troll ever pulled on the Republicans, and it is still paying off.

That there is an investment that is going to be giving a solid return for decades.

The Democrats just couldn't line up the Fundamentalists in just the right way to make it look like they were trying to deny rights to half of the voting populace. They tried with the anti-abortion movement but even then at its most radical they managed to screw it up; it didn't directly affect potential voters on a day-to-day basis like birth control does.

But Sandra Fluke.....that was the football the GOP willingly carried into their own end zone, and by Rush Limbaugh no less. Their brief victory dance was just delicious to watch. I realized even way back then that this was a story that had legs and as everyone was emitting a gasp I had a smile you couldn't get off my face. It was the beginning of the Great GOP Detonation of 2012.

Yep. In the months following this, she got Republican leaders and actual lawmakers to publicly admit they don't know how birth control pills or even female anatomy works and even got candidates addressing the lighter side of rape, costing them 2 races.

Forgive the pun, but this was the Democrats' Trojan Horse to draw out fundies and expose their pig-ignorance to the rest of the electorate.

Nope, it was just a girl who the GOP turned into a cause because they hate women, and couldn't stop putting their foot in their mouth.

Obama then masterfully used a bit of rope a dope to control the narrative for the entire election, by just repeating what the GOP was saying. He hardly even had to campaign, they literately did all the work for him.


The GOP does seem to prefer that someone lie there while they do all the work.
 
2012-11-27 09:57:32 AM
The birth control pill needs to be made available over the counter, put them right on the rack with condoms.

The entire world should be interested in making birth control widely and freely available, sterilization procedures should be free and easily accessible as well.
 
2012-11-27 09:58:11 AM

Polly Ester: Philip Francis Queeg: So you don't carry any health insurance and pay for all your procedures and prescriptions yourself right?

I don't have to force a catholic charity to buy condoms for me.


Nobody has to force the Catholic Church to go into the health care business, either. If they decided to sell cars, they'd have to put in seat belts just like all the other auto makers. Deal with it.
 
2012-11-27 09:59:12 AM

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Here is example of a real woman fighting real oppression. Not the Fluke roadshow.

You may have forgotten, Neda Soltani killed in Iran revolution

Link


Account created: 2012-09-20 07:24:58

You seem to know alot.
 
2012-11-27 09:59:29 AM
As has been pointed out, the fact that Breitbart is no longer actively poisoning political discourse in this country is satisfying, however a glance at that site, the commenters on it, and the thousands just like it that are thriving as strongly as ever ought to give even the most vindictive Progressive pause for thought.
 
2012-11-27 09:59:41 AM
Is Viagra covered by insurance? Just curious.
 
2012-11-27 10:00:02 AM

verbaltoxin: The GOP does seem to prefer that someone lie there while they do all the work.


That's weird, the GOP has done far more lying than working.
 
2012-11-27 10:04:22 AM
Eat Fun Dip out of my ass.
 
2012-11-27 10:08:19 AM
pictat.com
 
2012-11-27 10:09:41 AM

zedster: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: In case you forgot...

[ivn.us image 850x442]

that's the first time I've noticed they had the GOP's chosen rabbi there, never mind that most forms of Judaism allow for some form of abortion. Even the most strict say with in the first 40 days and at any time should the mothers life be in danger the life of the living mother is more important then the possible life of the fetus. I hope getting to play golf at their country clubs was worth it


From a traditional and scriptural standpoint, I thought the general thought was that life begins at first breath. I don't know of any mainstream Jewish sect that believes the "life begins at conception" angle.

Polly Ester: Philip Francis Queeg: So you don't carry any health insurance and pay for all your procedures and prescriptions yourself right?

I don't have to force a catholic charity to buy condoms for me.


It's not condoms and it's not them buying. It's comprehensive medical coverage required. And, lest you continue to push this "Why can't she just buy condoms?" bullshiat, the entire reason she testified was because of birth control medication used for actual reproductive health, to stem ovarian cysts and prevent her friend from becoming farking sterile. So unless you know what polycistic ovary syndrome is and how it's treated, you're a goddamn fool repeating debunked lies and showing absolutely no understanding of Fluke's testimony.
 
2012-11-27 10:11:07 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: In case you forgot...

[ivn.us image 850x442]


They must like Dr. Mitchell.
 
2012-11-27 10:12:24 AM
Wait a minute, promiscuous woman? I thought she was a frigid, man-hating lesbian:

mediamatters.org

mediamatters.org 

Oh wait, I'm being stupid: according to the far right, sluts and frigid, man-hating lesbians are the same thing.
 
2012-11-27 10:12:54 AM
I was going to say that this is a stupid nominee but looking at the list, Fluke isn't even close to the worst pick

Ryan Gosling? Really?
 
2012-11-27 10:13:26 AM

doctor wu: Is Viagra covered by insurance? Just curious.


I just asked that. I think it is.
 
2012-11-27 10:14:04 AM

Mrtraveler01: DoomPaul: [i47.tinypic.com image 720x960]

But it's fine and dandy for insurance companies to cover things like Viagra and Cialis right?


I think their reason is that those things treat a medical condition, although if you need a boner for anything except boning, I certainly don't know about it. Not to mention I'm pretty sure "pregnancy" is a medical condition.
 
2012-11-27 10:15:00 AM
All conservative outrage is directed at not buying into their talking points.
 
2012-11-27 10:15:31 AM

Bloody William: From a traditional and scriptural standpoint, I thought the general thought was that life begins at first breath. I don't know of any mainstream Jewish sect that believes the "life begins at conception" angle.


that's the most mainstream interpretation, I was commenting on the "strictest" orthodox who pulled the 40 day number out of their rear

I guess if 40 days is how long god had to kill all humanity (Noah) it's good enough for a pregnant woman
 
2012-11-27 10:17:51 AM

Mugato: doctor wu: Is Viagra covered by insurance? Just curious.

I just asked that. I think it is.


I think many plans do cover it. None do so by law, however.
 
2012-11-27 10:18:28 AM

skullkrusher: I was going to say that this is a stupid nominee but looking at the list, Fluke isn't even close to the worst pick

Ryan Gosling? Really?


Feminism is in this year.

cdn.thedailybeast.com
 
2012-11-27 10:20:20 AM

Antimatter: Obama then masterfully used a bit of rope a dope to control the narrative for the entire election, by just repeating what the GOP was saying. He hardly even had to campaign, they literately did all the work for him.


Huh---barely.
 
2012-11-27 10:20:22 AM

incendi: skullkrusher: I was going to say that this is a stupid nominee but looking at the list, Fluke isn't even close to the worst pick

Ryan Gosling? Really?

Feminism is in this year.

[cdn.thedailybeast.com image 850x566]


I take my criticism back. He's a very handsome man.
 
2012-11-27 10:20:42 AM

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Here is example of a real woman fighting real oppression. Not the Fluke roadshow.

You may have forgotten, Neda Soltani killed in Iran revolution

Link


Pretty sure she wasn't in the running for Time's Person of the Year this year.

And also pretty sure that "real" oppression comes in many flavors and lots of people can try to fix lots of things at different times. But you know that and are trying to muddy the waters. You twat.
 
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