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(Some Guy)   New ultra-compact PC is smaller than a DVD case, runs Linux, comes with lots of ports and connectivity, and your choice of a "standard" case or a ribbed-for-her-pleasure "pro" case   (blog.linuxmint.com) divider line 54
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2012-11-27 07:25:26 AM  
*Crysis joke*
 
2012-11-27 07:25:47 AM  
Kind of like Africans.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-27 07:31:46 AM  
Sounds cool. I'm sure lots of Linux enthusiasts will buy them for their girlfriends...
 
2012-11-27 07:35:03 AM  
I cant hear you over the lack of sound by my USB thumbdrive size Android computer
 
2012-11-27 07:36:18 AM  
Whilst interesting and it looks pretty good, there are a lot of ARM based systems either out already or hitting mass production soon that are equally... if not more tempting in terms of price.

For all the issues around it's weirdy beardy USB system (which a lot of people will never encounter) the Raspberry Pi costs £30ish; I've one sat here running XBMC and doing 720p (the Pi can do 1080p but my TV can't) h264 playback happily.

So why would I drop 500 notes on this thing instead of 400 on a Dell laptop that'd have a screen or 30 odd on a Pi if I wanted a frontend to play media?
 
2012-11-27 07:40:09 AM  
Why?
 
2012-11-27 07:40:26 AM  
Pretty danged expensive for what it is......................

Would buy one at $99
 
2012-11-27 07:44:09 AM  
Subby must have some huge DVD cases.

For that kind of money, i'd just rather pick up a Mac mini or the PC alternatives.
 
2012-11-27 07:44:22 AM  
The size is impressive, but the price puts it over the line. A local PC shop sells an everything-but-the-OS box the size a mini-desktop with a dual core 64bit Atom processor for $200. I added an Intel nic and made a router out of it.
 
2012-11-27 08:08:07 AM  
2.5GHz Mac mini
2.5GHz dual-core Intel Core i5
4GB memory
500GB hard drive
Intel HD Graphics 4000
OS X Mountain Lion
$599.00

mintBox Pro

250GB HDD
APU G-T56N (1.65 GHz dual core + Radeon HD 6320 - 18W)
8GB RAM
Ribbed metal case
$549.00 + shipping, duty & VAT

And you can also run Windows or any flavor of Linux on the Mac Mini.

Both are overpriced.
 
2012-11-27 08:08:09 AM  
$500?

i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-27 08:08:46 AM  
$550? I can buy a laptop with a real OS for that.
 
2012-11-27 08:22:34 AM  
New? Car-puter enthusiasts have had equivalents for a pretty long time. Here are some good links for anyone interested: fit-pc, or AVAdirect, or MP3Car
 
2012-11-27 08:29:16 AM  
remember the Lindows PC that almost never? yeah, me too. saw commercials for dirt cheap google chrome gadget recently, need to read up on that.
 
2012-11-27 08:30:01 AM  

pkellmey: New? Car-puter enthusiasts have had equivalents for a pretty long time. Here are some good links for anyone interested: fit-pc,


Yeah, uh, the article is about FitPC. They got themselves a new model out.
 
2012-11-27 08:30:26 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: 2.5GHz Mac mini
2.5GHz dual-core Intel Core i5
4GB memory
500GB hard drive
Intel HD Graphics 4000
OS X Mountain Lion
$599.00

mintBox Pro
250GB HDD
APU G-T56N (1.65 GHz dual core + Radeon HD 6320 - 18W)
8GB RAM
Ribbed metal case
$549.00 + shipping, duty & VAT

And you can also run Windows or any flavor of Linux on the Mac Mini.

Both are overpriced.


The only saving grace is the size of the mintbox. But then its a desktop device so it wouldn't matter if it was three times the size.

Asus E45M1-M microATX board £110
250GB 2.5inch HDD £30
2 sticks of 4gb RAM £30
Case £40

so for just over £200 i can make the same as the mintBox.
 
2012-11-27 08:40:32 AM  

cman: I cant hear you over the lack of sound by my USB thumbdrive size Android computer


I nearly bought one earlier this year because the price was really great, however I just couldn't justify the purchase yet. Hopefully, some more interesting computer issues will come up for me this year where I'll have a good reason to get one.
 
2012-11-27 08:42:43 AM  
Although the metal makes the mintBox heavier . . . , it cools down its components without needing any fans. Other than the noise coming from its internal 250GB hard-drive, the mintBox is completely silent.
 
2012-11-27 09:04:02 AM  
Wanted to shiat on this.. but damn cool and good specs... just wondering if kubuntu will work fine on it:)
 
2012-11-27 09:13:06 AM  

Cheese eating surrender monkey: *Crysis joke*


Came here for this.
 
2012-11-27 09:15:45 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org
Raspberry Pi laughs at these shenanigans.
 
2012-11-27 09:39:26 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Both are overpriced.


Lots of people buy the Mac mini, so I'd say the "free market" doesn't consider it overpriced.
I'd love to be able to make the same point about this mintBox thing in a few months.
 
2012-11-27 09:39:26 AM  
No SSD? No interest.
 
2012-11-27 10:00:49 AM  
Wow. I clicked, expecting this to be a competitor to the Raspberry Pi.

Over $500 for that? How about no. I built my gaming rig, minus 2 24" monitors, for less than that.
 
2012-11-27 10:02:04 AM  
But...it's Linux...
 
2012-11-27 10:02:50 AM  
So it's a tablet without a screen. Cool.
 
2012-11-27 10:23:35 AM  
Just bought a computer for my wife's work. Quad core 2.2 CPU, 500GB HD, 8GB RAM, Win 7, and it's pretty small. $350. Think I'll pass.
 
2012-11-27 11:58:48 AM  
This thing came out last year IIRC, hell the article is from June
 
2012-11-27 12:16:27 PM  

moralpanic: Subby must have some huge DVD cases.

For that kind of money, i'd just rather pick up a Mac mini or the PC alternatives.


This. Article says "smaller than a DVD case, as you can clearly see when we put it next to a remote control and a quarter." Did they run out of DVD cases?
 
2012-11-27 12:32:31 PM  
"Smaller than a DVD case"

How many Libraries of Congress is that?
 
2012-11-27 12:41:58 PM  
Who in the hell is their target market for this? Linux nerds that don't already build their own rigs? Do those guys even exist?
 
2012-11-27 12:42:18 PM  

urger: [upload.wikimedia.org image 300x200]
Raspberry Pi laughs at these shenanigans.


Agree. $35. Got one sitting right over there connected to the TV

Just got to figure out what to do with it. Media player probably.
 
2012-11-27 12:49:22 PM  

urger: [upload.wikimedia.org image 300x200]
Raspberry Pi laughs at these shenanigans.


Although you have to agree some of the decisions the 'foundation' have made are little odd. Upping the RAM from 256 to 512 but keeping the same model number being one and yanking the polyfuses on the USB ports; it's made hotplugging on the Pi a bit iffy and technically means those aren't USB ports.

lordargent: This thing came out last year IIRC, hell the article is from June


Even last year I'd be wondering why the hell I'd bother spending 500 notes on it.
 
2012-11-27 12:50:31 PM  

Night Night Cream Puff: Who in the hell is their target market for this? Linux nerds that don't already build their own rigs? Do those guys even exist?


A lot of media center enthusiasts would like something that can be hid away behind a TV monitor or hidden in a cabinet that would allow Smart TV capabilities or full internet browsing capabilities. A completely niche market, which explains the high price.
 
2012-11-27 12:52:36 PM  

Vaneshi: lordargent: This thing came out last year IIRC, hell the article is from June

Even last year I'd be wondering why the hell I'd bother spending 500 notes on it.


You should look at what car computer enthusiasts pay for these setups. Sometimes more than three times the price of a DIY build with similar components.
 
2012-11-27 12:59:42 PM  
Vaneshi : Even last year I'd be wondering why the hell I'd bother spending 500 notes on it.

Funny, I remember buying a dell netbook for $200 back in the days. Anyone that remembers the netbook days shouldn't be impressed by this thing.
 
2012-11-27 01:19:34 PM  

pkellmey: Night Night Cream Puff: Who in the hell is their target market for this? Linux nerds that don't already build their own rigs? Do those guys even exist?

A lot of media center enthusiasts would like something that can be hid away behind a TV monitor or hidden in a cabinet that would allow Smart TV capabilities or full internet browsing capabilities. A completely niche market, which explains the high price.


Would you like a slice of Pi? Besides that the MiniITX places often carry car cases for those machines; the people paying 500 notes for something like this aren't enthusiasts... they're mugs.

lordargent: Vaneshi : Even last year I'd be wondering why the hell I'd bother spending 500 notes on it.

Funny, I remember buying a dell netbook for $200 back in the days. Anyone that remembers the netbook days shouldn't be impressed by this thing.


I miss those days, the idea of a netbook; a cheap disposable secondary machine was brilliant. Now the sodding things cost as much as a full fat laptop if not more.
 
2012-11-27 02:58:18 PM  
Yeah, it's a damned shame about the death of Netbooks. I need to replace my Dell Mini 10 from 2009 (dropped and broke the hinge... still works but I feel for not much longer) and there's nothing out there to replace it with. I really don't want a 13" laptop, and I really don't need an Ultrabook.

Netbooks sold like ass, so they replaced them with Ultrabooks. Thing is, now Ultrabooks sell like ass instead.
 
2012-11-27 03:04:52 PM  
 
2012-11-27 03:05:05 PM  

Msol: Yeah, it's a damned shame about the death of Netbooks. I need to replace my Dell Mini 10 from 2009 (dropped and broke the hinge... still works but I feel for not much longer) and there's nothing out there to replace it with. I really don't want a 13" laptop, and I really don't need an Ultrabook.

Netbooks sold like ass, so they replaced them with Ultrabooks. Thing is, now Ultrabooks sell like ass instead.


Ultrabooks are the only thing my office buys nowadays. Most of my friends at the big consulting companies are getting them now too
 
2012-11-27 03:23:20 PM  

Msol:
Netbooks sold like ass, so they replaced them with Ultrabooks. Thing is, now Ultrabooks sell like ass instead.


They sold pretty well; when they were £200 machines like the EEE 701 or MSI Wind U100. They offered a really nice bang for buck but when you start charging £300+ for a ikkle machine like that; I'm going to go get a Dell. It became £330 for a Core 2 Duo crappy Dell or £400 for an Atom powered 'netbook'...

And really Ultrabooks... if I wanted an ultra-thin, ultra-light machine that cost just shy of a grand. I'd buy a MacBook Air and be done with it (might install Windows as well obviously). All these machines cost the same, have pretty much the same features... might as well get the super shiny one.

Ultrabooks.... as pointless as the thing in TFA is.
 
2012-11-27 03:45:02 PM  

Vaneshi: Msol:
Netbooks sold like ass, so they replaced them with Ultrabooks. Thing is, now Ultrabooks sell like ass instead.

They sold pretty well; when they were £200 machines like the EEE 701 or MSI Wind U100. They offered a really nice bang for buck but when you start charging £300+ for a ikkle machine like that; I'm going to go get a Dell. It became £330 for a Core 2 Duo crappy Dell or £400 for an Atom powered 'netbook'...

And really Ultrabooks... if I wanted an ultra-thin, ultra-light machine that cost just shy of a grand. I'd buy a MacBook Air and be done with it (might install Windows as well obviously). All these machines cost the same, have pretty much the same features... might as well get the super shiny one.

Ultrabooks.... as pointless as the thing in TFA is.


Ultrabooks and MacBook Airs compete directly against each other. Most ultrabooks start at well under where the Macbook Airs start though. You also get into the software compatibility when it comes to larger businesses. For example, I opted for the thinkpad ultrabook instead of the macbook air because there are no OS X versions of Project and Visio. I don't really like Omnigraffle and stuff like Openproj doesn't work real well with MS project, which my clients use. GoToMeeting also didn't have recording ability on Macs until its last release, so that was also a drawback.

Don't get me wrong, I like the macbook airs but they are a bit more expensive for the initial offering and some some limitations which may or may not be game changers.
 
2012-11-27 05:40:53 PM  
What could a C-60/E-450 ever do with 4/8GB of RAM? I like that they used the code names, though, so that people don't compare them with a $200 netbook that includes a copy of Windows.

Want Linux? As you're constantly smashed over the head with it, Linux is free. Better to have the choice to run either than forced onto one.

Also, why did they skimp so on the hard drive? Could have at least chucked a TB in there as a selling point along with the $5/GB of RAM, I mean large RAM amount (that the CPU could never actually take advantage of). At least AMD has found somewhere to dump a stack of Brazos chips before it releases its new set of ULV APUs.
 
2012-11-27 06:11:33 PM  

Msol: Yeah, it's a damned shame about the death of Netbooks. I need to replace my Dell Mini 10 from 2009 (dropped and broke the hinge... still works but I feel for not much longer) and there's nothing out there to replace it with. I really don't want a 13" laptop, and I really don't need an Ultrabook.

Netbooks sold like ass, so they replaced them with Ultrabooks. Thing is, now Ultrabooks sell like ass instead.


My wife & I both have Aspire One netbooks. It's a handy little machine, for sure. Wal-Mart also carries 'em for $228.
 
2012-11-27 08:10:17 PM  
I'm really wanting to revamp my carputer to have everything in the dash instead of having to run wires out to my console, but in order to do that, I need something smaller than mini-ITX, and I haven't found any Linux frontends worth a damn.

The price is definitely a turn-off, but as far as I have seen, this is really the only thing out there that will run Windows that's smaller than mini-ITX, so it's definitely filling a real niche, even if you're not too happy with the result of it.
 
2012-11-27 08:45:22 PM  

Msol: Yeah, it's a damned shame about the death of Netbooks. I need to replace my Dell Mini 10 from 2009 (dropped and broke the hinge... still works but I feel for not much longer) and there's nothing out there to replace it with. I really don't want a 13" laptop, and I really don't need an Ultrabook.

Netbooks sold like ass, so they replaced them with Ultrabooks. Thing is, now Ultrabooks sell like ass instead.

Wait a second, maybe they are coming back...


Yeah, my eldest has worn out a HP/Compaq Mini 110 after a couple years... a quick glance at Amazon and I see Asus, Acer and Samsung equivalents for a couple hundred bucks or a couple hundred quid. They're still around, just not from Dell.
 
2012-11-27 09:08:52 PM  
If 500 clams shocks check the Australian distributor off the FitPC site, they want 1600 bucks and to be bankrupt by Christmas, makes stocktake easy, no sales
 
2012-11-27 09:29:48 PM  

phlatulence: If 500 clams shocks check the Australian distributor off the FitPC site, they want 1600 bucks and to be bankrupt by Christmas, makes stocktake easy, no sales


I understood all of the words you used, but I'm still not entirely sure you were speaking English.
 
2012-11-28 02:00:16 AM  
Short version, OS is free, 1000% markup on hardware. Bon appetite
 
2012-11-28 04:34:12 AM  

redmid17: For example, I opted for the thinkpad ultrabook instead of the macbook air because there are no OS X versions of Project and Visio.


I never said the Air would be running OS X. Like any Intel Mac you can blitz the HDD/SSD and install Win7 or 8 on it without the need to Boot Camp it. I'm really only going on the reviews of various Ultrabooks I've seen, towards the high end and midrange you end up going head to head with the Air and not quite being able to pull it off it seems..

/Win8's touch interface... a Mac laptop's loverly scratchpad... sounds like a match made in heaven.
 
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