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(Boulder Daily Camera)   60-year-old man visiting Colorado buys a pot brownie and eats it BEFORE driving to the mountains. With predictable results. "When they asked him to turn off his car, he instead tried pushing buttons on his dashboard"   (dailycamera.com) divider line 77
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2012-11-27 09:44:00 AM

Taylor Mental: Jorn the Younger: It's not "because it's less dangerous than alcohol" it's because it's less dangerous than alcohol which is legal. Or are you seeing people argue that pot should be legal and booze not?

I'm saying both should be legal and that argument is the worst of all because a) It's unpersuasive insofar as it's totally subjective. Everyone reacts to different substances in different ways. Not everyone who drinks becomes an alcoholic and dangerous to society. And not everyone who smokes weed becomes docile and sleepy and; b) there are far better arguments that don't alienate those with no dog in the fight and who can reasonably discuss the issue.


There is a lot to be said for refraining from alienating non-users who support legalization. I am going through some uncertainty now.I recently sent one of my children on a faith based weekend retreat. The kids chose to discuss the topic of marijuana. They overwhelmingly favor legalization. Okay, I'm fine with that. However, a few of the teens made it a point to go on and on about how much "fun" getting stoned is and how much everyone who doesn't smoke it is missing out. With that I was not okay. I'm not sure if I need to bring this up as a concern or take some action? I don't know.

I have the same feelings towards my in-laws who don't want to take a no about drinking alcohol. They try to serve alcohol to children as young as eight. I hardly dare to go to the bathroom to pee while I'm there for fear of what they will try to foist on my kids. They literally use arguments like "You have to have a drink. We're all drinking. We're celebrating/toasting." I have had in-laws state that I was rude because I would not drink.

My view is keep alcohol legal. Legalize pot. Let those who would use these substances use them responsibly and let them shut the hell up and leave the rest of us alone. And, if you can't leave me alone, at least, leave my kids alone.
 
2012-11-27 09:49:00 AM
Jesus, how did I miss this thread? This guy was just doing what anyone would do, except he didn't leave himself an out.
It's the brownie challenge. You eat the brownie, get in the car and go. You try to make it all the way to your destination before it hits you (seemed to be 30-60 minutes or so, depending on the batch). But you have to leave yourself an out so nothing stupid happens. It used to be pretty common to get a knock on the door from a friend saying, "I didn't make it."
And you play videogames and they crash on your couch and you skip work the next day.
/but I all growed up now
 
2012-11-27 09:50:20 AM
Let's not overlook the effect of altitude on farking you up as well, especially if this guy had just arrived.
 
2012-11-27 09:53:33 AM

Lunaville: The original prohibitionists were inspired by their work with domestic violence victims. They heard so often "He's like two people.When he's not drinking, he's good and kind." They thought outlawing alcohol would drastically reduce domestic violence and poverty. And, if you think about it, even now women are inclined to describe their abusive partners as victims of a personality altering substance/addiction. How often do you hear a victim of abuse state "Yeah, he's just as a$$hole."


What they thought is that he was possessed by an evil spirit. They even called booze "spirits." The irony is they ignored their own scripture in Matthew 12:45 when they removed it and thereby let in seven other more wicked spirits. Prohibition as a cure was far worse than the disease.

The fact is a violent alcoholic is an asshole. His problem existed long before he ever took a drink because he's the actual problem. Drinking is simply his way of dealing with it. But the enabler/co-dependent can never see this because they too are sick. That's why s/he is attracted to the drunk in the first place and won't leave the sonofabiatch even though everyone is telling her he's going to kill her one day.
 
2012-11-27 10:08:40 AM
Skirl Hutsenreiter


Neondistraction: Lunaville: So, if my sisters wanted to lower their risk of emphysema, they would increase their risk of inebriation.

Well ideally they would be prepared for the increased effect and would then consume a smaller amount. It sounds like the jackass in the article ate way too much of some medical grade stuff and got knocked on his ass.

They could also try using a vaporizer. If used properly there is no smoke, and I can say from personal experience it is MUCH easier on the lungs.

I'm sure he got way too greedy. They usually sell brownies in multi-dose sizes, yet the cops found him with just crumbs AND a joint.

But if he really went to a dispensary he should've known better. As an out of stater, though, he can't get a card (64 isn't in effect yet), so he probably bought it off a resident with one.


I've always heard, "eat half, wait a half hour and if you don't 'feel it' eat the rest."
 
2012-11-27 10:23:42 AM

Lunaville: There is a lot to be said for refraining from alienating non-users who support legalization. I am going through some uncertainty now.I recently sent one of my children on a faith based weekend retreat. The kids chose to discuss the topic of marijuana. They overwhelmingly favor legalization. Okay, I'm fine with that. However, a few of the teens made it a point to go on and on about how much "fun" getting stoned is and how much everyone who doesn't smoke it is missing out. With that I was not okay. I'm not sure if I need to bring this up as a concern or take some action? I don't know.

I have the same feelings towards my in-laws who don't want to take a no about drinking alcohol. They try to serve alcohol to children as young as eight. I hardly dare to go to the bathroom to pee while I'm there for fear of what they will try to foist on my kids. They literally use arguments like "You have to have a drink. We're all drinking. We're celebrating/toasting." I have had in-laws state that I was rude because I would not drink.

My view is keep alcohol legal. Legalize pot. Let those who would use these substances use them responsibly and let them shut the hell up and leave the rest of us alone. And, if you can't leave me alone, at least, leave my kids alone.


The kids will experiment with it, there's nothing you can do to stop them. It's better they discuss it openly and feel comfortable expressing themselves because that promotes learning and a healthy acceptance of reality. But, kids should never ingest any substances simply because their brains have not fully developed and there is substantial evidence they can be emotionally stunted for life. If someone gave my kid booze or anything else against my wishes I'd consider reporting them to the cops. Even if they are a relative. I have a duty to protect my kids and that's totally different than not being a crusading zealot.
 
2012-11-27 10:27:54 AM
I like this bit best of all:
... once at the hospital, Nelson said he had come to Colorado from Florida in order to obtain medical marijuana for his bad back

It's okay man, it's legal now. You don't have to lie. You're just there for the drug tourism, and you wanted to get high.

Always amused when people who didn't need to impress me tried to lie about how they felt they we going to get cataracts or some other self-diagnosed medical excuse.
 
2012-11-27 10:28:43 AM
Link

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2012-11-27 10:31:39 AM

Taylor Mental: Lunaville: There is a lot to be said for refraining from alienating non-users who support legalization. I am going through some uncertainty now.I recently sent one of my children on a faith based weekend retreat. The kids chose to discuss the topic of marijuana. They overwhelmingly favor legalization. Okay, I'm fine with that. However, a few of the teens made it a point to go on and on about how much "fun" getting stoned is and how much everyone who doesn't smoke it is missing out. With that I was not okay. I'm not sure if I need to bring this up as a concern or take some action? I don't know.

I have the same feelings towards my in-laws who don't want to take a no about drinking alcohol. They try to serve alcohol to children as young as eight. I hardly dare to go to the bathroom to pee while I'm there for fear of what they will try to foist on my kids. They literally use arguments like "You have to have a drink. We're all drinking. We're celebrating/toasting." I have had in-laws state that I was rude because I would not drink.

My view is keep alcohol legal. Legalize pot. Let those who would use these substances use them responsibly and let them shut the hell up and leave the rest of us alone. And, if you can't leave me alone, at least, leave my kids alone.

The kids will experiment with it, there's nothing you can do to stop them. It's better they discuss it openly and feel comfortable expressing themselves because that promotes learning and a healthy acceptance of reality. But, kids should never ingest any substances simply because their brains have not fully developed and there is substantial evidence they can be emotionally stunted for life. If someone gave my kid booze or anything else against my wishes I'd consider reporting them to the cops. Even if they are a relative. I have a duty to protect my kids and that's totally different than not being a crusading zealot.


I'd prefer that they wait until they are 21 if they are going to experiment with pot or alcohol. I would prefer that they refrain from experimenting with pot at all as long as the laws surrounding its' use are so draconian. It is most important to me, however, that any such experimentation is their own decision. Ideally, the teens we are acquainted with should not have undue influence on their decision making process. My mother-in-law has no right to make such a decision for them.
 
2012-11-27 10:36:20 AM
Lunaville, yes you can buy pills with thc in them. They're called marinol.

Maybe I should pick up weed. My stomach is farked up all the time lately.
 
2012-11-27 10:43:29 AM

Lunaville: Can pot really mess up a driver this bad? Or was this driver drunk? Or senile? Two of my four siblings use pot to control chronic stomach pain and neither of them has ever mentioned any debilitation like the article describes, but then maybe they wouldn't tell me if they thought I would worry.


The very few times I've used pot it's knocked me right out after 1-2 hits. Got some weed butter on a plate of pasta once and passed out for four hours. But that's just me.

This guy sounds like a chronic user who doesn't understand altitude's effects.
 
2012-11-27 11:08:04 AM

Dirtybird971: Skirl Hutsenreiter


Neondistraction: Lunaville: So, if my sisters wanted to lower their risk of emphysema, they would increase their risk of inebriation.

Well ideally they would be prepared for the increased effect and would then consume a smaller amount. It sounds like the jackass in the article ate way too much of some medical grade stuff and got knocked on his ass.

They could also try using a vaporizer. If used properly there is no smoke, and I can say from personal experience it is MUCH easier on the lungs.

I'm sure he got way too greedy. They usually sell brownies in multi-dose sizes, yet the cops found him with just crumbs AND a joint.

But if he really went to a dispensary he should've known better. As an out of stater, though, he can't get a card (64 isn't in effect yet), so he probably bought it off a resident with one.

I've always heard, "eat half, wait a half hour and if you don't 'feel it' eat the rest."


Huh. I've been told to wait an hour. (It takes about 45 minutes before I start to notice anything, but I'm a lightweight.)
 
2012-11-27 11:08:12 AM
The problem with pot brownies (I have MS, so please pre-emptively shut up if you're about to make a burnout stoner comment), is that you get more hungry as you eat them, then you get fat.
 
2012-11-27 11:17:49 AM
CSB/ a friend of mine had some cookies made with hash butter in his kitchen in a plastic bag....he was out skiing and his girlfriend came home, and consumed a couple of these, having no clue they were loaded with WEEEEEEEd..she is not a smoker.
My buddy comes home to EMS and a local sheriff in his apartment just finishing an evaluation, as she thought she was having heart issues....My buddy fesses up, and a good laugh was had by all, including the sheriff, who even let the bag of green and pipe on the coffee table go without mention.

/Colorado, 2 years ago...mountain towns seem to usually have reasonable police.
// Also helped that Buddy is a well known all around great guy that does a lot in community
 
2012-11-27 11:26:01 AM

Dafatone: Let's not overlook the effect of altitude on farking you up as well, especially if this guy had just arrived.


Same thing happened to Obama.
 
2012-11-27 11:31:40 AM

firefly212: The problem with pot brownies (I have MS, so please pre-emptively shut up if you're about to make a burnout stoner comment), is that you get more hungry as you eat them, then you get fat.


You come in here bragging about having a Monkey Scrotum and then tell us to shut up? The nerves of some people.
 
2012-11-27 11:52:48 AM
I've never understood how people can accidentally eat pot brownies. My roommate makes and buys them at the dispensaries and they always REEK of weed smell.
 
2012-11-27 11:56:55 AM

Abox: babysealclubber: This isn't Reddit, you can't go back and edit posts.
Or almost any other message board on the internet.


That wouldn't make any sense around here, where so many people are responding to someone else. I can see fixing a typo or something, but most of the threads would turn into nonsense if we could edit, since people would go back and remove things they got owned on, or change their argument. I don't know how other forums handle it, but I don't see how that works very well.

Also, I welcome my new neighbors, Washington and Colorado. Welcome. You were always there but I never appreciated you before.

Lunaville: The original prohibitionists were inspired by their work with domestic violence victims. They heard so often "He's like two people.When he's not drinking, he's good and kind."


People with personality disorders are often described the same way. "Like Jekyll and Hyde." Yes, they're the same people who like to beat on their spouses. I think the booze just lets it out.
 
2012-11-27 12:16:19 PM

cryinoutloud: People with personality disorders are often described the same way. "Like Jekyll and Hyde." Yes, they're the same people who like to beat on their spouses. I think the booze just lets it out.


It's almost like Robert Louis Stevenson wrote it as an allegory to drinking and alcoholism...
 
2012-11-27 12:18:31 PM
quizilla.teennick.com
 
2012-11-27 12:41:19 PM

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: firefly212: The problem with pot brownies (I have MS, so please pre-emptively shut up if you're about to make a burnout stoner comment), is that you get more hungry as you eat them, then you get fat.

You come in here bragging about having a Monkey Scrotum and then tell us to shut up? The nerves of some people.


I'll beat on him, then my boy will. It'll be a good old fashioned father/son beat off!
 
2012-11-27 12:47:46 PM

ComicBookGuy: SDRR: T.M.S.: Lunaville: Can pot really mess up a driver this bad? Or was this driver drunk? Or senile? Two of my four siblings use pot to control chronic stomach pain and neither of them has ever mentioned any debilitation like the article describes, but then maybe they wouldn't tell me if they thought I would worry.

Eating pot is an entirely different thing than smoking it. Whenever you see a real freak out in an Amsterdam coffee house it's always a tourist that overdid the space cake.

I have never seen a freak out in an Amsterdam coffee house, but it sounds entertaining as hell. Got any video? LOL.

Having lived in Amsterdam four months, I can tell you TMS doesn't know what he's talking about.


The most surprising thing about my two weeks there was that: The potheads were all remarkably normal, compared to stoner culture potheads in the US; and the drunk English chavs were the ones making all the noise and problems. I went into some seedy areas and was approached more than a few times about buying coke, but never felt menaced like in inner cities here.
 
2012-11-27 01:00:01 PM

Lunaville: I'd prefer that they wait until they are 21 if they are going to experiment with pot or alcohol. I would prefer that they refrain from experimenting with pot at all as long as the laws surrounding its' use are so draconian. It is most important to me, however, that any such experimentation is their own decision. Ideally, the teens we are acquainted with should not have undue influence on their decision making process. My mother-in-law has no right to make such a decision for them.


The world is full of influence, and your children have never and will never be free of it. All you can do is raise them to recognize and shrug it off, no matter how corny they might think about your lessons.

Also, it's been proven that allowing small amounts of alcohol consumption young eliminates most of the mystique and rebellion around it. In Italy, it's perfectly normal for young kids to have a glass of wine with some dinners and teens to have 2-3, although not every night. With all of the other things affecting their brains, and the remarkable resiliency of the brain in general, enough alcohol to get a mild buzz occasionally isn't going to screw them up (though getting wasted and sick regularly might).
 
2012-11-27 02:42:16 PM

Lunaville: Can pot really mess up a driver this bad? Or was this driver drunk? Or senile? Two of my four siblings use pot to control chronic stomach pain and neither of them has ever mentioned any debilitation like the article describes, but then maybe they wouldn't tell me if they thought I would worry.


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Apparently proximity to a badge has something to do with it.
 
2012-11-27 03:20:47 PM

foxyshadis: ComicBookGuy: SDRR: T.M.S.: Lunaville: Can pot really mess up a driver this bad? Or was this driver drunk? Or senile? Two of my four siblings use pot to control chronic stomach pain and neither of them has ever mentioned any debilitation like the article describes, but then maybe they wouldn't tell me if they thought I would worry.

Eating pot is an entirely different thing than smoking it. Whenever you see a real freak out in an Amsterdam coffee house it's always a tourist that overdid the space cake.

I have never seen a freak out in an Amsterdam coffee house, but it sounds entertaining as hell. Got any video? LOL.

Having lived in Amsterdam four months, I can tell you TMS doesn't know what he's talking about.

The most surprising thing about my two weeks there was that: The potheads were all remarkably normal, compared to stoner culture potheads in the US; and the drunk English chavs were the ones making all the noise and problems. I went into some seedy areas and was approached more than a few times about buying coke, but never felt menaced like in inner cities here.


People that live here have a fairly healthy outlook on vice. But like any tourist destination the place fills up with yahoos quickly. And yes, the drunks are the worst on the street. But the people who are clueless about eating weed cause the real problems inside the coffee houses and fark it up for all the locals.
 
2012-11-28 12:03:28 AM
Saw this stand-up routine on TV years (decades?) ago, been looking for the video clip for years:

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People who smoke marijuana are the kind of people that can eat cat litter and say, "It's real crunchy."

They're the kind of people that try to get their pets stoned. Don't get Fido stoned, he's low enough on the food chain as is. He barely learned to lick his own genitals. Leave him alone.

Then they get really hungry and they're like, "It's either I drive or I eat my own hand," so they get the crazy idea they're OK to drive. They get in their car and they think they're going Warp 10. They think Scotty's in the passenger seat going, "Jim, it can't take much more! It's a Chevrolet, Jim, it can't go any faster than that!"

Then they're driving down they road and they see flashy lights, red white blue, red white blue, oh **bleep** it's the cops! You pull over and you're rehearsing your lines: "What seems to be the problem officer, what SEEMS to be the problem officer?"

You roll down your window and a little cloud of smoke hits him in the face. The officer says, "I'm hungry and don't know why." You think the line one more time -- "What seems to be the problem, officer?" -- but you open your mouth and say, "Gaboodekagaba!" Then the officer hands you a ticket. You eat the ticket. Oh no -- you're going to jail.

But then you wake up, and you're still on the couch at home...

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2012-11-28 04:49:28 PM
Oh My God the cops found CRUMBS! Perhaps they should have checked his luggage for Oxy, it sounds much more likely...
 
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