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2012-11-27 01:08:04 PM
2 votes:

Celerian: jack21221: I'm having a hard time imagining myself getting "apps" for my computer. Is this somehow different than a normal computer program? Or is it a new name for the same thing?

Basically new name for the same thing.

The entire concept is to make a Operating System that would make it easy to sync Desktop/Laptop/Tablet/Phone together, so you have a Microsoft account that if you download a News App on your desktop, when you pick up your phone, that App is there too, ready to go with your settings. Normally the Apps are small, quick, and do one task. They install easily from the store. Many are free, some are a small cost. But you can still install programs normally, as well.


A Microsoft account? Who's ever heard of such shiat. A news "app"? It's called a web browser. You click on firefox (which is probably already open anyway) and click on the bookmark for your favorite news site. Surely that's at least as fast and easy as going to the desktop and opening an app.

The only reason I have some apps on my iPhone is because mobile safari is a horrible browser and it doesn't display some websites properly. If you have a full computer, this is not an issue.

People were talking about a pandora app. What possible use is this? It's trivial to just go to the website. I have a bookmark right on my browser. I click on the button and it takes me to pandora. I don't need to minimize the browser and click on a separate program. Why would this be preferable?

This thread is making me feel like a Luddite.
2012-11-27 06:00:29 PM
1 votes:

bossjock77: Celerian: How do you feel about Windows Vista?

Worst. OS. EVAR!!


Windows ME was by far the most rage inducing OS I've ever had.
2012-11-27 03:33:54 PM
1 votes:

Celerian: Yes, Win8 is different. Win8 has a learning curve. Win8 is blending and blurring the lines and making us think differently about the desktop environment. It may or may not work, but unless you've tried it, and given it a good solid chance, don't hate on it. Its not that bad.


Thing is, none of what you've described sounds remotely interesting to me. I do not have nor do I ever plan to have a windows phone. When you say "opening your browser," that seems to imply that I ever close mine. My browser stays open at all times. So, if I want to hear some music, I go up to the button on my bookmark bar that says "pandora," and click the scroll wheel so it opens up in a new tab. Incredibly simple, I just did it.

And what's all this talk about having one app open on one side of the screen, and another app open on another side of the screen. I can do that now. It's trivial to drag a window off to the side. I just did it with Pandora. I disconnected the tab, dragged it to the side of the screen, and then adjusted the size of the browser window. It took me less than 15 seconds, and now I have Pandora off to the side and Fark taking up the rest of the screen. I then seamlessly took that window and brought it back into the main browser window.

I'm not hating on it because as you point out, I haven't tried it. I simply don't understand it. It makes no sense to me whatsoever. It sounds like change for the sake of change, and not actually for improving anything.
2012-11-27 11:03:08 AM
1 votes:
What are the freakin odds that all three windows 8 users are also active farkers? Man you guys should play the lotto or something. Unreal.

/skipping 8, meh, 7 does what I want and I don't have to deal with the UI that shall not be named.
2012-11-27 10:35:28 AM
1 votes:

randroid: The only way to deploy a metro app outside of the app store permanently is if you're on a domain. Seems like the kind of thing they could easily patch out. If they'll actually do it remains to be seen.


God I hope not, that would be a security nightmare.
2012-11-27 10:05:03 AM
1 votes:

WhippingBoy: abhorrent1: Unfortunately, my wife is not all that tech-savvy so I kind of have mixed feelings about getting a new W8 pc. I want too, but I don't want to listen to the biatching either.

My wife complains about everything (seriously, we need to put together a small "Earthquake kit" for the kid's school which required us to buy a few small items that we didn't already have; she went on and on about how this was going to ruin her entire week. I stopped off the store and had it done in under 10 minutes). But I digress... in any case, I recently upgraded to Windows 8 on our family PC. Sure enough, literally two seconds after trying it, it was the "stupidest thing ever". The surprising thing is that her biatching ceased after using it for about 15 minutes (which is a record). I haven't heard her complain about it since.


Thus far I've tried the bundled music application from Microsoft. It isn't bad, but it lacks some things that Pandora has. I was hoping there was a Pandora app, but it appears that there are only two 3rd party ones. I like the ability to be able to create a station, add songs, artists, albums and have that information shape what gets played on that station. Are there any apps I should try that might get me pretty close? if not, I think the Microsoft one will work for me, but I'd figure I'd ask around and test out some of the apps.

Oh, another thing I don't care for is that some of the Windows 8 apps, that are free, have paid advertisements. The Music app has commercials. The News and Game apps have a paid advertisement thrown in. Some games will even play a unskippable advertisement video before you can play. I understand that this is just how they keep streaming content free and shiat, but it does make me long for the days where if I play a game of solitaire or minesweeper, I don't have to watch a commercial about farking Audi's or tampons before hand.
2012-11-27 09:50:25 AM
1 votes:

Linux_Yes: good. let them dismantle that patched up mess.


Hey look! It's that guy that comes into every Windows thread and vainly attempts to convince everyone that they suck compared to him! Hi there!
2012-11-27 09:50:24 AM
1 votes:

abhorrent1: Icetech3: Umm... subby is on crack... i have owned a computer store for 24 years now... so far my customers are loving 8

I've really heard nothing but good things about it from people I know that have it. These are tech-savvy people too, not my mom. Unfortunately, my wife is not all that tech-savvy so I kind of have mixed feelings about getting a new W8 pc. I want too, but I don't want to listen to the biatching either.


I'm a software engineer by trade. Windows 8 does have a steep learning curve because they don't ease you into a completely new interface. They drop you into it and their intro video basically show you that if you put your mouse into either the left or right top corner, it will open a menu. They don't tell you about the shortcuts, Win+C to open the "Charms" bar on the right for instance, or how to find a lot of the settings. You'll have to do some exploring. Much like the transition from XP to Vista, is you give it a week or two, you'll find it isn't so bad. I'm only 3 days in and enjoying myself, though I still don't have everything fully customized and I am completely overwhelmed by the number of Apps available. You just have to train yourself to think differently. I will say that I am glad we're not changing to Windows 8 at work, because trying to teach people a completely new interface would be a total pain in the ass. Besides, most of our software vendors are barely willing to say if their software will work on Windows 7 machines.
2012-11-27 09:22:22 AM
1 votes:

WhippingBoy: Subby, there's a risk that you take when you try to be "cool and edgy" by slamming something you think everyone will hate. It makes you look like a collosal ignoramus.


I, for one, enjoyed the headline. Good day to you sir.
2012-11-27 08:56:08 AM
1 votes:
Umm... subby is on crack... i have owned a computer store for 24 years now... so far my customers are loving 8... i wanted to hate it but i can't.. only hate the default interface which is easy to never use.. my normal machine we build boots in 7 seconds and win8 is VERY fast..

Another indicator on how people feel about it is that i have not had 1 single machine come in to have 8 removed and 7 put on.. (which makes me sad cause i was expecting that alot).. when 7 came out i still had people wanting xp put back on new machines..
2012-11-27 08:52:19 AM
1 votes:
I bought an HP with Windows 8 at a black Friday sale. I actually like it so far. sorry to burst your bubble subby.
 
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