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(ESPN)   Major League Baseball team gives out $100 million contract. No, not that team. Not that one either. Not that one, or that one. No, no, no, c'mon, keep going down the list ... yeah, that one there   (espn.go.com) divider line 37
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2012-11-26 09:12:20 PM  
No relation.

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2012-11-26 09:21:38 PM  
Lots of smaller-market teams are locking up their core guys despite the money. See Votto, Braun, Tulowitzki. Plus the TV revenues are blowing up so you might as well spend.

Longoria's current contract is ludicrously team-friendly anyway.
 
2012-11-26 10:40:31 PM  
marlins?
 
2012-11-26 10:42:48 PM  
My fantasy team will keep hm for free until he stops producing, so I'm getting a kick out of this article.
 
2012-11-26 10:49:17 PM  

thisiszombocom: marlins?


No, those contracts will come next summer to artificially inflate the value of the team just before Loria sells it.
 
2012-11-26 10:57:10 PM  

thisiszombocom: marlins?


Speaking of which, I say we have a Fark Party down at the Florami Marlins spring training grounds to try out for the team.

I bet at least one of us makes it.
 
2012-11-26 10:58:47 PM  
 
2012-11-26 11:12:45 PM  
Seems like a lot of money until you realize Nick Swisher is on the cusp of making just as much. I won't quite call it a total steal because of the injury history and number of years, but Longoria could easily wind up being worth $20-25m per year.
 
2012-11-26 11:17:38 PM  

Super Chronic: Seems like a lot of money until you realize Nick Swisher is on the cusp of making just as much. I won't quite call it a total steal because of the injury history and number of years, but Longoria could easily wind up being worth $20-25m per year.


Yeah, when the news first broke I was surprised that they'd pick up all the options so early without getting an obvious discount.

But the more I thought, the more I realized that this is a discount now....and considering I've seen some speculation that FA prices will skyrocket in the next few years thanks to all these TV deals, it may be even more so come 2016.

Still, feels a bit like the Howard extension. 'Cept not nearly as bad.
 
2012-11-26 11:26:37 PM  

Super Chronic: Seems like a lot of money until you realize Nick Swisher is on the cusp of making just as much.


Anybody with an inside track to who's gonna give it to him? It ain't the Yankees.
They just gave Kuroda $15m/1yr, are waiting on commitments from Mariano and Pettitte and are negotiating with Ichiro and Russell Martin
 
2012-11-26 11:31:57 PM  

The Bestest: Anybody with an inside track to who's gonna give it to him?


I'd guess Red Sox, actually, probably on a short but high money contract. Though Heyman claimed that the "Rangers, Mariners, Orioles, Phillies, Giants, Braves, and Nationals" were all interested as well.
 
2012-11-26 11:43:14 PM  

Super Chronic: Seems like a lot of money until you realize Nick Swisher is on the cusp of making just as much. I won't quite call it a total steal because of the injury history and number of years, but Longoria could easily wind up being worth $20-25m per year.


Crazy, huh? 100 million just isn't that much in baseball money.

I'll be curious to see were Swisher ends up. I've heard the Mariners are in the hunt, but I'm not holding out much hope.
 
2012-11-26 11:46:51 PM  

DeWayne Mann: I'd guess Red Sox, actually, probably on a short but high money contract. Though Heyman claimed that the "Rangers, Mariners, Orioles, Phillies, Giants, Braves, and Nationals" were all interested as well.


I could see the Phillies making a run at him to shore up their outfield, and add some insurance in case Ryan Howard goes down with an injury again.
 
2012-11-26 11:57:35 PM  

SilentStrider: I could see the Phillies making a run at him to shore up their outfield, and add some insurance in case Ryan Howard goes down with an injury again.


Maybe. My guess is that the Phillies are targeting Upton first, and if that falls through, they'll take a closer look at Swish. But even then, I'd expect them to only go for it if either the money or the years is more reasonable.

Then again, Amaro is unpredictable at best, so who knows what they're actually thinking.
 
2012-11-27 12:04:26 AM  
David Wright is going to get paid.
 
2012-11-27 12:05:06 AM  
At least if he starts to blow around 34-35 he can slide over to first or DH and still be viable, unlike that terrible Howard deal.

Actually, with the new TV money pouring into the game even the Howard deal might be looked at historically as acceptable.
 
2012-11-27 12:09:07 AM  

Flappyhead: thisiszombocom: marlins?

No, those contracts will come next summer to artificially inflate the value of the team just before Loria sells it.


He just wants attendance to tank so he can move the team to Cleveland

/stolen from another farker
 
2012-11-27 12:15:17 AM  
other random baseball news (since we rarely get threads this time of year), Torre announced his Team USA WBC staff today

bench- Larry Bowa
hitting- Gerald Perry
pitching- Greg Maddux
bullpen- Marcel Lachemann
1st- Dale Murphy
3rd- Willie Randolph
 
2012-11-27 12:17:46 AM  

Gunny Highway: David Wright is going to get paid.


Yes he is, and I'm hoping those checks come from the Mets.
 
2012-11-27 12:51:08 AM  

Super Chronic: Seems like a lot of money until you realize Nick Swisher is on the cusp of making just as much. I won't quite call it a total steal because of the injury history and number of years, but Longoria could easily wind up being worth $20-25m per year.


well there's that and the fact that this deal doesn't start until something like 2016 or 2017 (team options through then are now guaranteed), and given the money coming in from regional sports networks and general salary inflation, paying 100mil over 6 years to longoria in 2017 through 2022 isn't a bad deal since by then the rafael furcals and hunter pences of the world will be making 20mil a year.
 
2012-11-27 02:02:49 AM  

The Bestest: Super Chronic: Seems like a lot of money until you realize Nick Swisher is on the cusp of making just as much.

Anybody with an inside track to who's gonna give it to him? It ain't the Yankees.
They just gave Kuroda $15m/1yr, are waiting on commitments from Mariano and Pettitte and are negotiating with Ichiro and Russell Martin


Kuroda took less money to stay with the yankees, considering his age and what he accomplished - he was easily worth 18m. Old school Japanese players really don't care for money, it will show when Suzuki takes less or even money to resign as well. However Swisher... is in for a serious shock, with Gardner, Granderson and Suzuki, Swisher doesn't have many cards to play in dealing with a block buster deal. His best bet is to play full time while sitting a few times out for suzuki who because of age, won't play full time.

Best advice for him is to shop around and realize nobody is gona pay him the salary he wants.
 
2012-11-27 02:19:12 AM  

Misconduc: However Swisher... is in for a serious shock, with Gardner, Granderson and Suzuki, Swisher doesn't have many cards to play in dealing with a block buster deal. His best bet is to play full time while sitting a few times out for suzuki who because of age, won't play full time.

Best advice for him is to shop around and realize nobody is gona pay him the salary he wants.


I'm not entirely sure you realize Swisher is a free agent.

Or maybe you think only the Yankees give out big contracts? I just don't see what Gardner/Grandy/Suzuki have to do with Swisher's contract.
 
2012-11-27 02:42:36 AM  
Kuroda, Swisher and Rafael Soriano were all offered the draft-pick-protecting minimum 13.3. All three, as expected, turned it down, but as shown, the Yankees had every intention of dealing with Kuroda, it was just a matter of him not asking something crazy.

The Yankees had every intention of letting Swisher and Soriano walk.
 
2012-11-27 07:56:44 AM  
There's a Japanese paper saying Ichiro signed with the Yanks. 1 yr, $5mil + incentives.
 
2012-11-27 08:43:29 AM  

NetOwl: My fantasy team will keep hm for free until he stops producing, so I'm getting a kick out of this article.


Nobody cares about your fantasy team.
 
2012-11-27 08:46:58 AM  

Misconduc: The Bestest: Super Chronic: Seems like a lot of money until you realize Nick Swisher is on the cusp of making just as much.

Anybody with an inside track to who's gonna give it to him? It ain't the Yankees.
They just gave Kuroda $15m/1yr, are waiting on commitments from Mariano and Pettitte and are negotiating with Ichiro and Russell Martin

Kuroda took less money to stay with the yankees, considering his age and what he accomplished - he was easily worth 18m. Old school Japanese players really don't care for money, it will show when Suzuki takes less or even money to resign as well. However Swisher... is in for a serious shock, with Gardner, Granderson and Suzuki, Swisher doesn't have many cards to play in dealing with a block buster deal. His best bet is to play full time while sitting a few times out for suzuki who because of age, won't play full time.

Best advice for him is to shop around and realize nobody is gona pay him the salary he wants.


The Yankees probably won't sign Swisher, but it has nothing to do with Ichiro. It's because they are trying to get under the luxury tax threshold next season, and there is almost no way that they can do that if they keep Swisher, Granderson, and Cano.
 
2012-11-27 08:47:47 AM  
Yeah, they just gave him the money, he didnt earn that contract or anything
 
2012-11-27 09:17:54 AM  

DeWayne Mann: There's a Japanese paper saying Ichiro signed with the Yanks. 1 yr, $5mil + incentives.


No option for a second year? That is interesting. Good for him. I'll be getting tickets for his return to Seattle, which should be EPIC.
 
2012-11-27 09:45:20 AM  

MFAWG: DeWayne Mann: There's a Japanese paper saying Ichiro signed with the Yanks. 1 yr, $5mil + incentives.

No option for a second year? That is interesting. Good for him. I'll be getting tickets for his return to Seattle, which should be EPIC.



Why should it be EPIC? He has already played at Safeco for three games as a Yankee.
 
2012-11-27 10:25:54 AM  

Gunny Highway: David Wright is going to get paid.


Rosenthal said this morning that the Mets offered 6 years, $ 100 million. Wright is apparently looking for 7 years or more though
 
2012-11-27 10:41:49 AM  

LessO2: MFAWG: DeWayne Mann: There's a Japanese paper saying Ichiro signed with the Yanks. 1 yr, $5mil + incentives.

No option for a second year? That is interesting. Good for him. I'll be getting tickets for his return to Seattle, which should be EPIC.


Why should it be EPIC? He has already played at Safeco for three games as a Yankee.


He didn't really leave the first time.
 
2012-11-27 10:45:58 AM  

DeWayne Mann: There's a Japanese paper saying Ichiro signed with the Yanks. 1 yr, $5mil + incentives.


A couple Yankees beat writers (Erik Boland and Sweeny Murti) are denying this now

In other Yankee news, Buster Olney says that a Pettitte deal is very close and Joel Sherman expects a deal with Rivera to be done this week.
 
2012-11-27 11:13:13 AM  

MFAWG: Super Chronic: Seems like a lot of money until you realize Nick Swisher is on the cusp of making just as much. I won't quite call it a total steal because of the injury history and number of years, but Longoria could easily wind up being worth $20-25m per year.

Crazy, huh? 100 million just isn't that much in baseball money.

I'll be curious to see were Swisher ends up. I've heard the Mariners are in the hunt, but I'm not holding out much hope.


I think the M's would just have to make him an offer he can't refuse. Offer him 5 years when nobody else goes above 4, something like that. That might be unpleasant down the road, but a slight overpay might be worthwhile to signal to fans and other free agents that the team has gotten serious about contending. And Swisher does remain a valuable player, notwithstanding what all the callers on WFAN say.
 
2012-11-27 11:42:03 AM  

A Fark Handle: Super Chronic: Seems like a lot of money until you realize Nick Swisher is on the cusp of making just as much. I won't quite call it a total steal because of the injury history and number of years, but Longoria could easily wind up being worth $20-25m per year.

well there's that and the fact that this deal doesn't start until something like 2016 or 2017 (team options through then are now guaranteed), and given the money coming in from regional sports networks and general salary inflation, paying 100mil over 6 years to longoria in 2017 through 2022 isn't a bad deal since by then the rafael furcals and hunter pences of the world will be making 20mil a year.


I still think the Braun deal was fantastic

//Of course he will be almost 50 when it is done. I also wonder how that will work if he is ever traded. Would the new team pick up the deferments?
 
2012-11-27 11:51:31 AM  

The Bestest: other random baseball news (since we rarely get threads this time of year), Torre announced his Team USA WBC staff today

bench- Larry Bowa
hitting- Gerald Perry
pitching- Greg Maddux
bullpen- Marcel Lachemann
1st- Dale Murphy
3rd- Willie Randolph


Find this very intriguing. Maddux was the prime example of one not needing to throw 95+ in order to get batters out.
 
2012-11-27 01:47:33 PM  

DeWayne Mann: Super Chronic: Seems like a lot of money until you realize Nick Swisher is on the cusp of making just as much. I won't quite call it a total steal because of the injury history and number of years, but Longoria could easily wind up being worth $20-25m per year.

Yeah, when the news first broke I was surprised that they'd pick up all the options so early without getting an obvious discount.

But the more I thought, the more I realized that this is a discount now....and considering I've seen some speculation that FA prices will skyrocket in the next few years thanks to all these TV deals, it may be even more so come 2016.

Still, feels a bit like the Howard extension. 'Cept not nearly as bad.


This contract starts in 2017. The Rays current cable deal runs through 2016. It's easier to get more TV money with Longo signed and it's easier to pay Longo with more TV money. I'm not sure which of these facts precipitates the other, but I know it's not coincedence.
 
2012-11-27 01:57:17 PM  

scandalrag: This contract starts in 2017. The Rays current cable deal runs through 2016. It's easier to get more TV money with Longo signed and it's easier to pay Longo with more TV money. I'm not sure which of these facts precipitates the other, but I know it's not coincedence.


Longoria signed his current contract, which includes the team options through 2016, in 2008.

Fox Sports & the Rays signed their current TV deal, which runs through 2016, in 2009.

If you're convinced that's not a coincidence, well, good for you. But I'm skeptical.
 
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