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(CBC)   No link exists between full moon and mental problems. Technically speaking, lycanthropy isn't a mental problem as much as it's a grow-claws-and-attack-people problem   (cbc.ca) divider line 78
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2012-11-26 03:53:58 PM  
Technically speaking, lycanthropy isn't a mental problem as much as it's a grow-claws-and-attack-people an imaginary chest pain problem.

FTFY, going by the theory in the article.
 
2012-11-26 05:12:55 PM  
Ii.ytimg.com
That's absolutely fascinating.
 
2012-11-26 05:18:07 PM  
As long as you don't consider batsh*t crazy to be a 'problem'

/tended bar
//full moons were definitely weirder
 
2012-11-26 05:22:39 PM  
Ask any policeman or ambulance paramedic. I think they'd beg to differ.
 
2012-11-26 05:48:06 PM  

Galileo's Daughter: i.ytimg.com
That's absolutely fascinating.


Galileo's Daughter, you is talking about wahrwilf!
 
2012-11-26 05:52:16 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Ask any policeman or ambulance paramedic. I think they'd beg to differ.


Daniel Kahneman doesn't want you to do this.
 
2012-11-26 05:53:02 PM  
Anyone who believes this study needs to work a full moon night shift.

/yes, I know, the plural of anecdote is not data.
/you have to experience it to understand.
 
2012-11-26 05:57:33 PM  
Well, see you next this Wednesday.

/no really, full moon that night
 
2012-11-26 06:01:10 PM  

way south: Anyone who believes this study needs to work a full moon night shift.

/yes, I know, the plural of anecdote is not data.
/you have to experience it to understand.


MaudlinMutantMollusk: As long as you don't consider batsh*t crazy to be a 'problem'

/tended bar
//full moons were definitely weirder



There's just no way that could be something like selective memory. No sir.
 
2012-11-26 06:03:55 PM  

Relatively Obscure: way south: Anyone who believes this study needs to work a full moon night shift.

/yes, I know, the plural of anecdote is not data.
/you have to experience it to understand.

MaudlinMutantMollusk: As long as you don't consider batsh*t crazy to be a 'problem'

/tended bar
//full moons were definitely weirder


There's just no way that could be something like selective memory. No sir.


I call it anecdotal evidence

/YMMV
 
2012-11-26 06:06:30 PM  
Every Police precinct in the country doubles its hours/workforce on full moon nights. Same with hospital emergency rooms, fire and other first responder services. It's because a disproportionate number of abnormal things occur during full moons versus any other time of the month.

Setting aside supernatural claims, the moon has always had a gentle effect on life and its evolution on Earth and a full moon tends to proffer physical properties -- the most obvious being that it reflects the most sunlight hence inducing more night time activity than usual -- that are a better explanation for unusual occurrences than just chalking it up to mere coincidences.
 
2012-11-26 06:06:41 PM  
This is lunacy!
 
2012-11-26 06:06:50 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Galileo's Daughter: i.ytimg.com
That's absolutely fascinating.

Galileo's Daughter, you is talking about wahrwilf!


Wahrwilf? I don't know, I haven't seen him!
 
2012-11-26 06:09:02 PM  

Ishkur: Every Police precinct in the country doubles its hours/workforce on full moon nights. Same with hospital emergency rooms, fire and other first responder services. It's because a disproportionate number of abnormal things occur during full moons versus any other time of the month.


That's true, except for not being true.
 
2012-11-26 06:09:52 PM  

Galileo's Daughter: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Galileo's Daughter: i.ytimg.com
That's absolutely fascinating.

Galileo's Daughter, you is talking about wahrwilf!

Wahrwilf? I don't know, I haven't seen him!


There wilf

/There castile
 
2012-11-26 06:14:03 PM  
No link exists between full moon and genital problems.

...is how I red the headline.
 
2012-11-26 06:17:37 PM  
But what happens if you get caught between the moon and New York City?
 
2012-11-26 06:20:21 PM  

Galileo's Daughter: Wahrwilf? I don't know, I haven't seen him!


:-/

I'm gonna tell Mike.


MaudlinMutantMollusk: There wilf

/There castile


... A FROGDAMN WEREWOLF
 
2012-11-26 06:20:45 PM  
Try working in a Ls Vegas casino during a full moon.
 
2012-11-26 06:21:06 PM  
Ishkur: Every Police precinct in the country doubles its hours/workforce on full moon nights. Same with hospital emergency rooms, fire and other first responder services. It's because a disproportionate number of abnormal things occur during full moons versus any other time of the month.

Because a full moon == more ambient lighting at night == crazy people stay out longer.

They're not any crazier than normal, but on the night of a new moon it gets dark as fark and they go home and beat their wives and drink themselves into a stupor or something. Whereas on the night of a full moon, they stay out and cause trouble.
 
2012-11-26 06:26:02 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Galileo's Daughter: i.ytimg.com
That's absolutely fascinating.

Galileo's Daughter, you is talking about wahrwilf!


"You're a hustler!"
"No, I was in Hustler!"

/she's using all her intelligence to climb those stairs
 
2012-11-26 06:35:54 PM  

Mugato: "You're a hustler!"
"No, I was in Hustler!"

/she's using all her intelligence to climb those stairs


Easily among the best eye candy in a featured MST3K movie.

"Okay, stop! Everyone go up a shirt size!"
 
2012-11-26 06:37:03 PM  

Galileo's Daughter: I
That's absolutely fascinating.


You misspelled uhrbsulutely fuhscinateng.
 
2012-11-26 06:41:08 PM  

Son of Thunder: You misspelled uhrbsulutely fuhscinateng.


You and Galileo's Daughter is in it for fame and fortune?
 
2012-11-26 06:44:24 PM  
lordargent Because a full moon == more ambient lighting at night == crazy people stay out longer.

They're not any crazier than normal, but on the night of a new moon it gets dark as fark and they go home and beat their wives and drink themselves into a stupor or something. Whereas on the night of a full moon, they stay out and cause trouble.


There may be more to it than just the moon's brightness. With the level of light pollution in metro or suburban areas, where the ambient light is brighter than a full moon, wouldn't the crazy be a constant level? Especially since more electric light would enable people to be out longer, and at all hours? 

Friend did an internship at a mental hospital, one with long-term occupants. She saw markedly different behavior in the resident nutsos around the full moon, compared to other times.
 
2012-11-26 06:47:02 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Galileo's Daughter: i.ytimg.com
That's absolutely fascinating.

Galileo's Daughter, you is talking about wahrwilf!


Thar Wilf!

images.wikia.com
 
2012-11-26 06:48:25 PM  

lordargent: Because a full moon == more ambient lighting at night == crazy people stay out longer.


Where the hell do you live? In the boonies? In my neck of the woods, we have these things called "streetlights" that illuminate things quite nicely. Hell, the light pollution from Chicago is enough to see by at all hours of the night.
 
2012-11-26 06:58:20 PM  
I can't sleep around full moons. I can't stay awake around new moons. Wasn't always thus.

Studies like this are silly.

There's no link between one specific problem in a small sample size in one area and the moon phase, except a 32% drop when it's waning towards the new moon. (ie the farthest from the new moon)

Thanks guys. Now you're all fired. Get out! All of you. We're billing you for the cost of the study, too.
 
2012-11-26 07:09:56 PM  

nharrisphoto: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Galileo's Daughter: i.ytimg.com
That's absolutely fascinating.

Galileo's Daughter, you is talking about wahrwilf!

Thar Wilf!

[images.wikia.com image 700x400]


*snert*
 
2012-11-26 07:20:11 PM  
There's no doubt that the Apollo astronauts would have died if they had tried to make direct contact with the moon without their spacesuits. We know the moon is dangerous. The only question is, how dangerous is it?
 
2012-11-26 07:36:26 PM  
While I have no anecdotal evidence about crazy, I do have about people with operations that involved inserting stuff into their bones, they all claim the pain increases always around the full moon.
 
2012-11-26 07:45:32 PM  

Relatively Obscure: There's just no way that could be something like selective memory. No sir.


Memories selected due to the level of weirdness that was inflicted upon your psyche, maybe.
I'm just saying there are nights when everything seems to be going strange for no good reason. All the wives are getting beat, all the drunks are wrecking their cars, and all the crazies are out in force committing random acts of ...randomness.

Then you look up, and it all makes sense.

/I don't volunteer for rescue often, and I almost never chase naked mental patients through the bush at 2am, but when I do, its probably a full moon.
/Why he was trying to have sex with the ambulance door is still a topic of much debate.
 
2012-11-26 07:48:15 PM  

way south: Relatively Obscure: There's just no way that could be something like selective memory. No sir.

Memories selected due to the level of weirdness that was inflicted upon your psyche, maybe.
I'm just saying there are nights when everything seems to be going strange for no good reason. All the wives are getting beat, all the drunks are wrecking their cars, and all the crazies are out in force committing random acts of ...randomness.

Then you look up, and it all makes sense.

/I don't volunteer for rescue often, and I almost never chase naked mental patients through the bush at 2am, but when I do, its probably a full moon.
/Why he was trying to have sex with the ambulance door is still a topic of much debate.


Did you see how that slut of a door was painted!?

Totally askin' for it. Why else would the hospital logo be a dick height?
 
2012-11-26 07:58:28 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Ask any policeman or ambulance paramedic. I think they'd beg to differ.


Or nurses, etc.

It is most assuredly very real.
 
2012-11-26 07:59:54 PM  

kevinfra: But what happens if you get caught between the moon and New York City?


Oh you son of a b*tch....
 
2012-11-26 08:07:02 PM  

way south: Relatively Obscure: There's just no way that could be something like selective memory. No sir.

Memories selected due to the level of weirdness that was inflicted upon your psyche, maybe.
I'm just saying there are nights when everything seems to be going strange for no good reason. All the wives are getting beat, all the drunks are wrecking their cars, and all the crazies are out in force committing random acts of ...randomness.

Then you look up, and it all makes sense.

/I don't volunteer for rescue often, and I almost never chase naked mental patients through the bush at 2am, but when I do, its probably a full moon.
/Why he was trying to have sex with the ambulance door is still a topic of much debate.



I'm just saying that there are nights when everything seems to be going strange for no good reason. Then you look up, see nothing to attribute it to, and promptly forget it. Then on another night, everything seems normal. You happen to notice that the moon is full, and at best it seems curious before you promptly forget about it again.

Your brain's farkin' with ya.
 
2012-11-26 08:14:51 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Ask any policeman or ambulance paramedic. I think they'd beg to differ.


Abso-freaking-lutely.

I don't care what any study claims. Full Moons bring out the lunatics.
 
2012-11-26 08:15:55 PM  

way south: /you have to experience it to understand.


Yeah...and this. Also, what you said about the plural of anecdote is not data.

But I defy you to find an ER nurse, physician or cop/EMT/medic who will agree with that.
 
2012-11-26 08:21:36 PM  

dramboxf: I don't care what any study claims.


That certainly couldn't be part of the problem.
 
2012-11-26 08:26:13 PM  

dramboxf: way south: /you have to experience it to understand.

Yeah...and this. Also, what you said about the plural of anecdote is not data.

But I defy you to find an ER nurse, physician or cop/EMT/medic who will agree with that.


I worked in the ED for 3 years back in college. Every full moon night that I worked, the nurses would say that it was going to be a crazy night, but I don't remember them being any different than any other night I worked.
 
2012-11-26 08:45:53 PM  
My father was an NYC cop in the 80s and he told me that there were always more crimes during a full moon. He also told me that the way it was explained to him by whoever trained him was that the full moon increases its gravitational pull on water. Since people are mostly made up of water it heightens our levels of something or other and makes us all weird.
 
2012-11-26 08:47:35 PM  

Relatively Obscure: dramboxf: I don't care what any study claims.

That certainly couldn't be part of the problem.


You're defending a study that claims it found something contrary to what it found.

Even in this weird case, 32% in anxiety at near the time of the new moon. That's a pretty farkin' big find that points to correlation.

But no, they claim no correlation.


Lies
Damn Lies
Statistics
 
2012-11-26 08:49:40 PM  

EsteeFlwrPot: My father was an NYC cop in the 80s and he told me that there were always more crimes during a full moon. He also told me that the way it was explained to him by whoever trained him was that the full moon increases its gravitational pull on water. Since people are mostly made up of water it heightens our levels of something or other and makes us all weird.


My mom works in a hospital and said the same thing about the crazies coming out during a full moon and her hospital had the numbers to prove it. When I was a kid I came up with the same theory about gravity. It sounds crazy but something has to explain it.
 
2012-11-26 08:52:02 PM  

Nem Wan: There's no doubt that the Apollo astronauts would have died if they had tried to make direct contact with the moon without their spacesuits. We know the moon is dangerous. The only question is, how dangerous is it?


very dangerous. i wouldn't want to bump into the moon on a dark night, that's for sure.
 
2012-11-26 08:53:45 PM  
fast1.onesite.com
 
2012-11-26 08:55:13 PM  
It's not that there's more crazies on a full moon, you can just see them better.
 
2012-11-26 08:56:26 PM  

Devo37: Nem Wan: There's no doubt that the Apollo astronauts would have died if they had tried to make direct contact with the moon without their spacesuits. We know the moon is dangerous. The only question is, how dangerous is it?

very dangerous. i wouldn't want to bump into the moon on a dark night, that's for sure.


Its sure a good thing they went when it was a full moon. It would have been really hard to find otherwise.
 
2012-11-26 08:57:42 PM  

doglover: Relatively Obscure: dramboxf: I don't care what any study claims.

That certainly couldn't be part of the problem.

You're defending a study that claims it found something contrary to what it found.

Even in this weird case, 32% in anxiety at near the time of the new moon. That's a pretty farkin' big find that points to correlation.

But no, they claim no correlation.


Lies
Damn Lies
Statistics


I found this interesting, too: Link

"And in an analysis that ought to put to rest any lingering doubts, Ivan Kelly, a psychologist at the University of Saskatchewan, found in a review of over 100 studies of lunar cycles and behavior -- including emergency room admissions and suicide attempts -- nothing to suggest that humans are affected by Earth's [moon]."
 
2012-11-26 08:59:59 PM  

Mugato: It sounds crazy but something has to explain it.


"It's not true" explains it.
 
2012-11-26 09:06:57 PM  

doglover: Relatively Obscure: dramboxf: I don't care what any study claims.

That certainly couldn't be part of the problem.

You're defending a study that claims it found something contrary to what it found.

Even in this weird case, 32% in anxiety at near the time of the new moon. That's a pretty farkin' big find that points to correlation.

But no, they claim no correlation.


Lies
Damn Lies
Statistics


Actually, they claim that there's no full moon or new moon effect that they can find, which matches up with every other time people look into this kind of thing.

The waning quarter moon bit is interesting, I guess, but doesn't show anything about full moons. First quarter wasn't similarly low, nor was the new moon. So, meh, look into it if you wanna, I suppose.
 
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