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2012-11-26 04:43:14 PM
That series had so much potential up until it jumped the shark with season 2... Steven Moffat can eat more bags of dicks for his abomination of a plot with Moriarty. Might as well have a cameo with Captain Jack Harkness and Torchwood FFS...
 
2012-11-26 04:56:14 PM

Elzar: That series had so much potential up until it jumped the shark with season 2... Steven Moffat can eat more bags of dicks for his abomination of a plot with Moriarty. Might as well have a cameo with Captain Jack Harkness and Torchwood FFS...


Fark that shiat. Both seasons were awesome. You nuked the fridge using the phrase "jump the shark."

Very little on American TV compares in quality to "Sherlock." Maybe that is because each episode is feature-length. And you can't blame Moffet that much as he is drawing stories from the original source material and tweaking them slightly to update for the modern era.

/Torchwood is Russell T Davies thing, not Moffet's
 
2012-11-26 05:04:02 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Fark that shiat. Both seasons were awesome. You nuked the fridge using the phrase "jump the shark."


ROFLCopterz - because an ipod geared janitor is able to steal the crown jewels and act all angsty and shiat while still getting the drop on Mr. Holmes

/ 9/10 for spelling Stephen's surname name with a 'e'
 
2012-11-26 05:31:19 PM
Love this series. Maybe it's delayed because of all the press Freeman will do/is doing for "The Hobbit".
 
2012-11-26 06:26:34 PM

Elzar: AdolfOliverPanties: Fark that shiat. Both seasons were awesome. You nuked the fridge using the phrase "jump the shark."

ROFLCopterz - because an ipod geared janitor is able to steal the crown jewels and act all angsty and shiat while still getting the drop on Mr. Holmes

/ 9/10 for spelling Stephen's surname name with a 'e'


What is an iPod geared janitor? I know what episode you are referring to, but I don't know what that phrase means.

Look, pretty much every TV show does something that bothers a viewer. I could count those that don't on one hand and probably still have five fingers left over.

But to let it ruin your enjoyment of one of the smartest, wittiest and brilliantly acted programs available amidst a vast wasteland of reality TV, weak comedy and shiatty melodrama?

That's really silly to me.
 
2012-11-26 06:45:04 PM

AdolfOliverPanties:
Look, pretty much every TV show does something that bothers a viewer. I could count those that don't on one hand and probably still have five fingers left over.

But to let it ruin your enjoyment of one of the smartest, wittiest and brilliantly acted programs available amidst a vast wasteland of reality TV, weak comedy and shiatty melodrama?

That's really silly to me.


Dear Sir, I wish to protest in the strongest possible terms. Yours sincerely, Brigadier N. F. Marwood-Git
 
2012-11-26 06:47:10 PM
Good thing we've got ELEMENTARY in the meantime.....

/It truly HURT to type that, even in jest.
 
2012-11-26 06:48:01 PM

Elzar: AdolfOliverPanties:
Look, pretty much every TV show does something that bothers a viewer. I could count those that don't on one hand and probably still have five fingers left over.

But to let it ruin your enjoyment of one of the smartest, wittiest and brilliantly acted programs available amidst a vast wasteland of reality TV, weak comedy and shiatty melodrama?

That's really silly to me.

Dear Sir, I wish to protest in the strongest possible terms. Yours sincerely, Brigadier N. F. Marwood-Git


It's no good bottling these things up, Brian.
 
2012-11-26 07:16:47 PM
I thought Angelina Jolie's ex was Sherlock Holmes, not Engelbert Humperdinck.
 
2012-11-26 07:47:10 PM
Is anyone watching Elementary? I gave up after 2 episodes when I realized I'd rather rewatch Sherlock or the Jeremy Brett series' for my fill of Holmes.
 
2012-11-26 07:50:00 PM
Martin Freeman is a breakout star?
 
2012-11-26 07:54:00 PM

DjangoStonereaver: Good thing we've got ELEMENTARY in the meantime.....

/It truly HURT to type that, even in jest.


I hate you for even JOKING about this. The TRUE beauty of Sherlock is that they managed to take an 19th century character, and pour MUCH of the detail from the original stories into a 21st century environment. It shows what a freaking visionary genius Doyle was. (I had to go back and re-read my classic 1912 volumes because Sherlock made me love the original stories again!) It's a farking brilliant adaptation and just as with Being Human and the monstrosity that is Torchwood, the moron executives on this side of the pond need to keep their damn hands OFF of it. We do not need anything AMERICAN based on this. It's a British character damnit, I do not know why you would think that you can turn it into farking CSI, not YOURS Hollywood, hands off.
 
2012-11-26 07:56:52 PM

BATMANATEE: Is anyone watching Elementary? I gave up after 2 episodes when I realized I'd rather rewatch Sherlock or the Jeremy Brett series' for my fill of Holmes.


I am. It's...okay...but I do have to say that it got better after the 2nd or 3rd episode. I'm not sure why. I think I just came to grips with the fact that it's a very different character than Cumberbatch's Sherlock. It could even be set well after Sherlock. Sherlock Holmes hits bottom, cokes out, rehab, resettles in NY (for some reason) and is a darker but more emotionally complicated character. It's as if House was a slightly more literal interpretation of Sherlock Holmes.

Well, it fills the gap between BBC series. I can only re-watch those so many times. Well, maybe one more won't hurt...
 
2012-11-26 08:05:33 PM

Elzar: Steven Moffat can eat more bags of dicks for his abomination of a plot with Moriarty


Manic frantic screamy twitchy Moriarty is as much as a dissapointment as manic frantic screamy twitchy The Master was in new Doctor Who.
 
2012-11-26 08:09:00 PM
I

Invincible: BATMANATEE: Is anyone watching Elementary? I gave up after 2 episodes when I realized I'd rather rewatch Sherlock or the Jeremy Brett series' for my fill of Holmes.

I am. It's...okay...but I do have to say that it got better after the 2nd or 3rd episode. I'm not sure why. I think I just came to grips with the fact that it's a very different character than Cumberbatch's Sherlock. It could even be set well after Sherlock. Sherlock Holmes hits bottom, cokes out, rehab, resettles in NY (for some reason) and is a darker but more emotionally complicated character. It's as if House was a slightly more literal interpretation of Sherlock Holmes.

Well, it fills the gap between BBC series. I can only re-watch those so many times. Well, maybe one more won't hurt...


I might have to give it a couple more episodes. Rewatching mysteries i already know the ending to isn't as fun, even if they are exceptionally well made.
 
2012-11-26 08:14:32 PM
Maybe by the time it's comes out, I'll have a newer model Roku...one that supports subtitles. Between the accents, the overlapping dialog, and the effects of 40+ years of power tool usage, I miss the odd bit.
 
2012-11-26 08:16:14 PM
Look, I love the BBC Sherlock as much as the next guy, but can we all agree that Hound was farking terrible and honestly, the source material there wasn't exactly anything good to begin with, and it really shouldn't be one of Doyle's more famous stories, no matter how great the Rathbone adaptation is thought to be?
 
2012-11-26 08:18:10 PM
2014?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I'm watching the finale of Season 1 as I type this.

:(

PS Benedict is BEAUTIFUL *sigh*
 
2012-11-26 08:21:05 PM
Maybe the writers were working on it and one just stopped mid-pitch, looked around the room, took off his glasses and asked, "Guys, is this show too gay?"
Then as everyone was realizing just how literally gay they show was, he said "...or not gay enough?'
So they had to go back and cram even more Ho yay into the scripts.
 
2012-11-26 08:21:16 PM

Gough: Maybe by the time it's comes out, I'll have a newer model Roku...one that supports subtitles. Between the accents, the overlapping dialog, and the effects of 40+ years of power tool usage, I miss the odd bit.


Lame. I watched it on Netflix with subtitles myself. Tinnitus from doing concert photos for a good number of years, plus the SO trying to explain things to me as they happen because he's so damn geeked I'm finally watching. That said, yeah, it's damn good. Watching one episode with the roommate just hearing the sound = she got jack shiat done on her project because she got sucked into the next episode for an hour and a half. :)
 
2012-11-26 08:22:49 PM

t3knomanser: Look, I love the BBC Sherlock as much as the next guy, but can we all agree that Hound was farking terrible and honestly, the source material there wasn't exactly anything good to begin with, and it really shouldn't be one of Doyle's more famous stories, no matter how great the Rathbone adaptation is thought to be?


Yeah. My least favorite the episodes, and they gave it the good old college try.
 
2012-11-26 08:24:38 PM
Isn't Benedict Cumberbatch also in The Hobbit? Doing voice work as Smaug, probably for the second film, though I don't know when that is scheduled or if it has already been done.
 
2012-11-26 08:35:19 PM
I'm reading all the comments in this thread with a very British accent, indeed.
 
2012-11-26 08:36:06 PM
At least Cumberbatch is still scheduled to record the 4th season of Cabin Pressure in December and January:

i.imgur.comlink 

Awesome.
 
2012-11-26 08:40:37 PM

DjangoStonereaver: Good thing we've got ELEMENTARY in the meantime.....

/It truly HURT to type that, even in jest.


Please. Elementary is fun and unlike Sherlock, isn't afraid to go twisted and dark. (The last episode's case was creepy as hell.) The only dark part of in the Sherlock run so far was Moriarty eating his gun. (Unless he faked it.) You know Sherlock faked his death. On Elementary, I swear, it's serial killer central. Dexter would be a kid in a candy store there. Sherlock is practically pure camp. ESPECIALLY Moriarty. If he had mustache, he would be twirling it the whole time.
 
2012-11-26 08:40:40 PM

The Voice of Doom: At least Cumberbatch is still scheduled to record the 4th season of Cabin Pressure in December and January:

[i.imgur.com image 256x179]link 

Awesome.


So, I've been dying to know, do they release the eps right after they record them? or will we have to wait a while to hear them?

sort of related, have you listened to Finnemore's "before they were famous" and "John Finnemore's souvenir program"? They are both outstanding.
 
2012-11-26 08:41:19 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Elzar: AdolfOliverPanties: Fark that shiat. Both seasons were awesome. You nuked the fridge using the phrase "jump the shark."

ROFLCopterz - because an ipod geared janitor is able to steal the crown jewels and act all angsty and shiat while still getting the drop on Mr. Holmes

/ 9/10 for spelling Stephen's surname name with a 'e'

What is an iPod geared janitor? I know what episode you are referring to, but I don't know what that phrase means.

Look, pretty much every TV show does something that bothers a viewer. I could count those that don't on one hand and probably still have five fingers left over.

But to let it ruin your enjoyment of one of the smartest, wittiest and brilliantly acted programs available amidst a vast wasteland of reality TV, weak comedy and shiatty melodrama?

That's really silly to me.


Complaining about the logistics of minor plot points on Sherlock is akin to complaining that the cup holders in your new Ferrari are too small to hold a venti latte.

/when it hits on all cylinders it's the best TV show in a very, very long time
 
2012-11-26 08:41:28 PM
Also, shouldn't Martin's hat have more gold on it?
 
2012-11-26 08:48:39 PM
I've watched 2 episodes of Elementary and was annoyed because the pacing is exactly what any other American mystery drama hour would have been. At +40 they'd caught the "bad guy" and I looked up at the time and went, nope, not him, too early. So formulaic. It can be fun, but it REALLY diminishes the awesomeness of Sherlock Holmes.

And Sherlock is especially awesome.... though I did fall asleep during Hound... I blamed it on starting it too late, but feeling a little better now that it's being panned on Fark. *phew*
 
2012-11-26 08:56:22 PM
Uchiha_Cycliste
So, I've been dying to know, do they release the eps right after they record them? or will we have to wait a while to hear them?


The blog post I linked says that they will air the new episodes starting on January the 9th.
Given that the last of the announced recording dates is January the 6th, I would say that's pretty soon. :)


sort of related, have you listened to Finnemore's "before they were famous" and "John Finnemore's souvenir program"? They are both outstanding.


No, but I might check them out.
The only other show I know which (I know) he had a hand in is Safety Catch.
 
2012-11-26 08:56:58 PM

mekki: Please. Elementary is fun and unlike Sherlock, isn't afraid to go twisted and dark.


Except in Elementary, isn't Sherlock in rehab? In the novels he's an unabashed coke fiend.
 
2012-11-26 08:59:03 PM

The Voice of Doom: Uchiha_Cycliste
So, I've been dying to know, do they release the eps right after they record them? or will we have to wait a while to hear them?

The blog post I linked says that they will air the new episodes starting on January the 9th.
Given that the last of the announced recording dates is January the 6th, I would say that's pretty soon. :)


sort of related, have you listened to Finnemore's "before they were famous" and "John Finnemore's souvenir program"? They are both outstanding.

No, but I might check them out.
The only other show I know which (I know) he had a hand in is Safety Catch.


Thanks for the info.
Before they were famous is a little hit and miss and sort of requires a working knowledge of english literature.
His Souvenir program is outstanding, it's even more fun to listen to than cabin pressure and easier to listen to repeatedly. Finnemore is one twisted, brilliant comedian.
 
2012-11-26 08:59:43 PM
Elementary really has nothing to do with Sherlock Holmes. It's just another police procedural but the lead detective has a British accent. If you like police procedurals that's fine. If you're tuning in because you're jonesing for more Sherlock it is worthless.
 
2012-11-26 09:02:36 PM
My favorite Holmes/Watson...

i88.photobucket.com

/obscure?
 
2012-11-26 09:03:34 PM
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2012-11-26 09:05:59 PM
Marty-Mart and the Cumberbunch.
 
2012-11-26 09:06:23 PM

Mugato: mekki: Please. Elementary is fun and unlike Sherlock, isn't afraid to go twisted and dark.

Except in Elementary, isn't Sherlock in rehab? In the novels he's an unabashed coke fiend.


That's what flashbacks are for. I am hoping we get to see some serious Trainspotting Jonny Lee Miller action.
 
2012-11-26 09:12:38 PM

Tax Boy: Elzar: Steven Moffat can eat more bags of dicks for his abomination of a plot with Moriarty

Manic frantic screamy twitchy Moriarty is as much as a dissapointment as manic frantic screamy twitchy The Master was in new Doctor Who.


I wish all the characters were like that.
 
2012-11-26 09:18:12 PM
Uchiha_Cycliste
Also, shouldn't Martin's hat have more gold on it?


But it has:

3.bp.blogspot.com

Before they were famous is a little hit and miss and sort of requires a working knowledge of english literature.

That could be a problem..
The other one seems good. Just listening to the first episode on youtube:
"Before you lie two doors. Both lead to the sapphire city, but one is a prettier route. There's no tiger
with a gun." - "Hang on!"
 
2012-11-26 09:21:40 PM

mekki: Mugato: mekki: Please. Elementary is fun and unlike Sherlock, isn't afraid to go twisted and dark.

Except in Elementary, isn't Sherlock in rehab? In the novels he's an unabashed coke fiend.

That's what flashbacks are for. I am hoping we get to see some serious Trainspotting Jonny Lee Miller action.


I don't disagree, but while "unabashed coke fiend" is definitely part of the character, focusing in it misses the point entirely. It's not THAT he's an addict that's important, it's WHY he's an addict. Hell, the whole rehab thing gets the point exactly backward: Holmes was a drug addict because it altered his brain and occupied his mind while he didn't have something interesting to think about. He didn't need it if he had a proper case. In Elementary, Sherlock uses the cases and the puzzles as a transfer addiction, a substitute for the drugs. It COULD have been done well, but it really wasn't, and showing how bad-off he got as a user would only make that problem worse.
 
2012-11-26 09:30:52 PM

The Voice of Doom: Uchiha_Cycliste
Also, shouldn't Martin's hat have more gold on it?

But it has:

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 850x1139]

Before they were famous is a little hit and miss and sort of requires a working knowledge of english literature.

That could be a problem..
The other one seems good. Just listening to the first episode on youtube:
"Before you lie two doors. Both lead to the sapphire city, but one is a prettier route. There's no tiger
with a gun." - "Hang on!"


Yeah, but it doesn't scream Democratic Republic of Congo president =(
 
2012-11-26 09:33:28 PM
You know, I'll say this.

No matter how awesome something is, there will be some douche who comes along to try to explain how much it sucks.

This thread is a perfect demonstration of that.
 
2012-11-26 09:36:29 PM

albert71292: My favorite Holmes/Watson...

[i88.photobucket.com image 320x240]

/obscure?


Yes, to me. Looks familiar but I don't remember what it's from. I love vintage Cleese so I'll check my ego and ask what is it? I apparently rolled up and smoked the part of my brain that memory used to reside in.
 
2012-11-26 09:40:37 PM
I love this show but everything with moriotti(? Spelling? Never read the books) was really annoying. Every moffat show has to cram the word clever into it at least a dozen times and moriotti was the worst. Not to mention the ridiculous voice inflections. Anyways I do love that this show will skip on how Sherlock figured something out and let's the audience think about it like the safe combination s2e1
 
2012-11-26 09:41:38 PM
*cough* Moriarty *cough*
 
2012-11-26 09:44:06 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: *cough* Moriarty *cough*


Thank you. Too lazy on my mobile
 
2012-11-26 09:45:56 PM
no problem captain.
 
2012-11-26 09:49:21 PM

caddisfly: AdolfOliverPanties: Elzar: AdolfOliverPanties: Fark that shiat. Both seasons were awesome. You nuked the fridge using the phrase "jump the shark."

ROFLCopterz - because an ipod geared janitor is able to steal the crown jewels and act all angsty and shiat while still getting the drop on Mr. Holmes

/ 9/10 for spelling Stephen's surname name with a 'e'

What is an iPod geared janitor? I know what episode you are referring to, but I don't know what that phrase means.

Look, pretty much every TV show does something that bothers a viewer. I could count those that don't on one hand and probably still have five fingers left over.

But to let it ruin your enjoyment of one of the smartest, wittiest and brilliantly acted programs available amidst a vast wasteland of reality TV, weak comedy and shiatty melodrama?

That's really silly to me.

Complaining about the logistics of minor plot points on Sherlock is akin to complaining that the cup holders in your new Ferrari are too small to hold a venti latte.

/when it hits on all cylinders it's the best TV show in a very, very long time


Sherlock's nemesis is a bit more than just a coffee cup holder.

I love the show, but I have to agree that Moriarty just kind of ruined anything that he was in. I still can't figure out why the guy playing one of the most archetypal villains ever written decided to play him as a whiny angsty brat. Not to mention that he not only chewed the scenery, he swallowed, digested, and shiat it all back out.
 
2012-11-26 09:58:30 PM
 
2012-11-26 10:11:06 PM
I think you guys are thinking about Moriarty wrong. He was supposed to be the equal and opposite of Sherlock, and he *was*. when Sherlock wasn't on a case, he was also a whiny, emo little biatch. This representation of Morarty was the perfect foil to him, he was just as conniving, dedicated, evil and quite mad. It's like you were expecting an old timey Professor Moriarty, but that wouldn't be a good match to the young, adept, brilliant and moody Sherlock. when the very nature of one changed, the other had to as well.
 
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