Do you have adblock enabled?
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Think Progress)   Set your faces to stunned: Florida Republicans admit voter suppression was the goal of new election laws   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 200
    More: Obvious, Florida Republicans, florida, voter suppression, election law, Florida GOP, Jim Greer, University of New Zealand, Floridians  
•       •       •

7310 clicks; posted to Politics » on 26 Nov 2012 at 5:32 PM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



200 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | » | Last | Show all
 
2012-11-26 09:01:21 PM  

badhatharry: rynthetyn: meyerkev: Question:

How big WERE these precincts with 8-9 hour lines? How many machines? Why did they have an 8-hour line to begin with?

/Just for comparison, the precinct I worked had ~750 day-of voters across 1 sign-in, 10 voting booths for a 1 page, double-sided ballot, and 1 tabulator. We had an hour line when we opened, worked that out by 11:00, and then never had a line after that.

Miami-Dade, where the longest lines were, had an 8 page ballot. The county where I worked as a poll watcher had a four page ballot and it took people about 20-30 minutes to vote the whole thing--it was about a 2 hour wait all day with a half dozen people handling check-in and, after they brought in more booths to try to speed things up, 40 booths. If you're talking an 8 page ballot and a place that doesn't have room for more than a couple dozen booths, it's going to take a long time.

I recommend a Lawyerese-to-EnglishSpanish translation on the ballots to speed things up.

 
2012-11-26 09:02:16 PM  

Alphakronik: Ambivalence: MrBallou: How is this not illegal?

How can a law be illegal? Unconstitutional, sure, but not illegal.

If the law is set to defraud someone of their right to vote, isn't that considered voter fraud?

If a law is designed to deny a specific group of people to the right to vote, isn't that discrimination?


Yes, but proving intent is the trick. Some hearsay from some GOP operatives might not do it. You'd have to prove that those who drafted the bill had that intent.
 
2012-11-26 09:02:42 PM  

badhatharry: I don't see it as corruption. Early voting is a new thing. Democrats want to expand it to be "fair". Republicans want to restrict it to be "fair". They both lie about their motivations. They both just want the most votes That's politics.


Both Sides Are Bad. Assuming you can't distinguish between letting everyone vote and making it intentionally difficult to vote.
 
2012-11-26 09:06:48 PM  
ts3.mm.bing.net 

Also unavailable for comment.
 
2012-11-26 09:09:25 PM  

badhatharry: rynthetyn: meyerkev: Question:

How big WERE these precincts with 8-9 hour lines? How many machines? Why did they have an 8-hour line to begin with?

/Just for comparison, the precinct I worked had ~750 day-of voters across 1 sign-in, 10 voting booths for a 1 page, double-sided ballot, and 1 tabulator. We had an hour line when we opened, worked that out by 11:00, and then never had a line after that.

Miami-Dade, where the longest lines were, had an 8 page ballot. The county where I worked as a poll watcher had a four page ballot and it took people about 20-30 minutes to vote the whole thing--it was about a 2 hour wait all day with a half dozen people handling check-in and, after they brought in more booths to try to speed things up, 40 booths. If you're talking an 8 page ballot and a place that doesn't have room for more than a couple dozen booths, it's going to take a long time.

I recommend a Lawyerese-to-English translation on the ballots to speed things up.


Ah, so they stuck the proposal language on the ballot. We stuck it out in the hall, said "Read This BEFORE Entering", stuck a 2-sentence English translation on the ballot, and didn't have a problem (Probably took 2-3 minutes for the entire voting process from application to tabulation). If that hadn't been the case, it would have been a huge deal, and taken way longer.

/We also had a help desk, so if there was a problem, we could take people out of line and keep it moving.
//We were also a half poor young black/half poor to middle class white with some scattered Indians precinct in a lightly Republican district.
 
2012-11-26 09:11:10 PM  

coeyagi: Alphakronik: Ambivalence: MrBallou: How is this not illegal?

How can a law be illegal? Unconstitutional, sure, but not illegal.

If the law is set to defraud someone of their right to vote, isn't that considered voter fraud?

If a law is designed to deny a specific group of people to the right to vote, isn't that discrimination?

Yes, but proving intent is the trick. Some hearsay from some GOP operatives might not do it. You'd have to prove that those who drafted the bill had that intent.


Even then, I don't think you can arrest legislators for legislating.
 
2012-11-26 09:12:26 PM  

JAYoung: I'd like to see the NAACP and AARP join in a civil RICO lawsuit charging the Republican party with a multi-state conspiracy to deny their members' right to vote. All those Republican state legislators who voted for these measures could be unindicted co-conspirators.
Putting some of these Republican operatives on the stand would be Must Watch TV.


I want to know when the criminal investigation begins.
 
2012-11-26 09:27:14 PM  

coeyagi: Yes, but proving intent is the trick. Some hearsay from some GOP operatives might not do it. You'd have to prove that those who drafted the bill had that intent.


"Voter ID, which is going to allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania - done." - Mike Turzai (R).
 
2012-11-26 09:29:08 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: coeyagi: Yes, but proving intent is the trick. Some hearsay from some GOP operatives might not do it. You'd have to prove that those who drafted the bill had that intent.

"Voter ID, which is going to allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania - done." - Mike Turzai (R).


I am no lawyer, but I know there are plenty of liberal ones in PA, I am sure that if they thought they had a case, they'd bring it. We'll see...
 
2012-11-26 09:39:44 PM  

SilentStrider: MaudlinMutantMollusk: My only surprise is that they'd admit it

Same here. They're getting more brazen.


Read like in-house fighting to me. Christi expanded hours, his successor reduced them- Christi admits to the reduction of hours as intended as a means of voter reduction.
 
2012-11-26 09:40:24 PM  

JohnnyC: Want to know how incredibly unpopular the Republican party is... They cheated and they still couldn't win.

I don't expect them to learn the right lesson here... I suspect they will choose "cheat more" over "earn the trust of the voters".


[bearsrepeating.jpg]
 
2012-11-26 09:41:49 PM  

coeyagi: Fluorescent Testicle: coeyagi: Yes, but proving intent is the trick. Some hearsay from some GOP operatives might not do it. You'd have to prove that those who drafted the bill had that intent.

"Voter ID, which is going to allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania - done." - Mike Turzai (R).

I am no lawyer, but I know there are plenty of liberal ones in PA, I am sure that if they thought they had a case, they'd bring it. We'll see...


Of all the things that happened during the election, this quote inspired me the most to wreck every candidate with an "R" next to their name.
 
2012-11-26 09:43:16 PM  

StopLurkListen: coeyagi: Fluorescent Testicle: coeyagi: Yes, but proving intent is the trick. Some hearsay from some GOP operatives might not do it. You'd have to prove that those who drafted the bill had that intent.

"Voter ID, which is going to allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania - done." - Mike Turzai (R).

I am no lawyer, but I know there are plenty of liberal ones in PA, I am sure that if they thought they had a case, they'd bring it. We'll see...

Of all the things that happened during the election, this quote inspired me the most to wreck every candidate with an "R" next to their name.


Then I hope you're a lawyer who can sodomize the "Rs" for their shenanigans. Sadly, I don't see it happening.
 
2012-11-26 09:46:59 PM  

coeyagi: badhatharry: And Democrats would like early voting to last 6 months.

[citation needed]


well can't have an October surprise for the media if everyone's done voting early now... but on the negative side they can run ads for half year... and debates would be less than useless... and what if a candidate knows they already won and just throws the lulz like a hs senior bombing the final because they'll pass even with a 0....
 
2012-11-26 09:51:34 PM  

abb3w: MrBallou: How is this not illegal?
Ambivalence: How can a law be illegal? Unconstitutional, sure, but not illegal.

Dunno. It might make for an interesting circus to indict all the Florida legislators who voted for those laws, alleging that they were engaged in a conspiracy to oppress the free exercise of the franchise per 18 USC § 241. I don't think it would survive trial, much less the resulting appeals, but it would make for spectacular political theater.


Alan Grayson ought to pick this football up and run with it.
 
2012-11-26 09:52:56 PM  

clowncar on fire: SilentStrider: MaudlinMutantMollusk: My only surprise is that they'd admit it

Same here. They're getting more brazen.

Read like in-house fighting to me. Christi expanded hours, his successor reduced them- Christi admits to the reduction of hours as intended as a means of voter reduction.


Crist, not Christi. As in Charlie Crist, who left the GOP because the tea party turned on him for accepting stimulus money.
 
2012-11-26 09:56:14 PM  

clowncar on fire: SilentStrider: MaudlinMutantMollusk: My only surprise is that they'd admit it

Same here. They're getting more brazen.

Read like in-house fighting to me. Christi expanded hours, his successor reduced them- Christi admits to the reduction of hours as intended as a means of voter reduction.


Oh, well, in that case, it's no big deal.

Right?
 
2012-11-26 10:04:38 PM  

badhatharry: coeyagi: badhatharry: HighOnCraic: badhatharry: CorporatePerson: badhatharry: Democrats like early voting because it gives them more time to coral all their retard voters that can't just show up and vote on election day. That's why Republicans don't like it.

For months I had been convincing all my friends and family to vote early, sending them articles about voter suppression laws passed by the GOP and telling them "There's probably gonna be a lot of shennanigans this election day. Might as well vote early and skip all the hassle." I got alot of people to vote early for the first time.

In the leadup to the next election I'm gonna send them articles about how people in Florida had to wait in line sometimes for 3-8 hours just to vote. Why deal with that? Vote as early as possible.

It's not right to have to wait 3-8 hours on election day. That is a problem that needs to be fixed.

If only there was something that could be done to allow people to vote earlier than election day. . .

I guess demanding that the government be more efficient is a silly idea. Maybe more stations or a simpler ballot. I can't wait for Obamacare.

Or even having early voting which increases voter turnout.

You still haven't given a plausible objection to early voting other than getting people not in your tribe to vote early.

As Ron Paul might say, "It's not in the Constitution."


Article I, Section 4:

Section. 4.

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

Article II, Section 1

The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

This means that each state can decided to have early voting if they so desire.
 
2012-11-26 10:09:28 PM  
More and more, Republicans are shiatting on everything even Republicans fought for during the cold war. Making a mockery of the voting process? Only Communist tyrannies did that.
 
2012-11-26 10:14:34 PM  

coeyagi: Then I hope you're a lawyer who can sodomize the "Rs" for their shenanigans. Sadly, I don't see it happening.


Actually, a good number of people on this tab are lawyers, or at least in law school. No clue what states they live in, though.
 
2012-11-26 10:20:33 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: coeyagi: Then I hope you're a lawyer who can sodomize the "Rs" for their shenanigans. Sadly, I don't see it happening.

Actually, a good number of people on this tab are lawyers, or at least in law school. No clue what states they live in, though.


As qorkfiend said though, can you really prosecute a legislator for legislating? Isn't the point of the legislative process to vote up the good ideas and vote down the bad ones, ESPECIALLY when the motive is clear?
 
2012-11-26 10:30:13 PM  

coeyagi: Fluorescent Testicle: coeyagi: Then I hope you're a lawyer who can sodomize the "Rs" for their shenanigans. Sadly, I don't see it happening.

Actually, a good number of people on this tab are lawyers, or at least in law school. No clue what states they live in, though.

As qorkfiend said though, can you really prosecute a legislator for legislating? Isn't the point of the legislative process to vote up the good ideas and vote down the bad ones, ESPECIALLY when the motive is clear?


As I understand it, and I'm not entirely sure I do, once a law is passed, the only way to make it "illegal" is via the courts. A law can't be "illegal" in the sense that it breaks another law--if someone were to pass a law making murder legal, for instance, then either that law or the prior law would be invalid. They couldn't both be valid laws.

With regards to the voter ID laws, they can be unconstitutional, but if they were passed by the legislature and voted on by the public (or whatever is necessary to put them on the books in a particular state--like in CA they have to be on the ballot as a referendum) then it is legal and valid unless or until someone takes it to court and a judge declares it in violation of another state statute, or the state constitution, or the US Constitution. But it wouldn't be "against the law" as in violating a penal code or something like that. Nobody broke a law and can get arrested for enforcing it, if that's what you mean.
 
2012-11-26 10:31:36 PM  

Gyrfalcon: coeyagi: Fluorescent Testicle: coeyagi: Then I hope you're a lawyer who can sodomize the "Rs" for their shenanigans. Sadly, I don't see it happening.

Actually, a good number of people on this tab are lawyers, or at least in law school. No clue what states they live in, though.

As qorkfiend said though, can you really prosecute a legislator for legislating? Isn't the point of the legislative process to vote up the good ideas and vote down the bad ones, ESPECIALLY when the motive is clear?

As I understand it, and I'm not entirely sure I do, once a law is passed, the only way to make it "illegal" is via the courts. A law can't be "illegal" in the sense that it breaks another law--if someone were to pass a law making murder legal, for instance, then either that law or the prior law would be invalid. They couldn't both be valid laws.

With regards to the voter ID laws, they can be unconstitutional, but if they were passed by the legislature and voted on by the public (or whatever is necessary to put them on the books in a particular state--like in CA they have to be on the ballot as a referendum) then it is legal and valid unless or until someone takes it to court and a judge declares it in violation of another state statute, or the state constitution, or the US Constitution. But it wouldn't be "against the law" as in violating a penal code or something like that. Nobody broke a law and can get arrested for enforcing it, if that's what you mean.


Yes, that's what I mean. It would make them hellacious dickheads, not criminals.
 
2012-11-26 10:44:04 PM  

47 is the new 42: badhatharry: coeyagi: badhatharry: HighOnCraic: badhatharry: CorporatePerson: badhatharry: Democrats like early voting because it gives them more time to coral all their retard voters that can't just show up and vote on election day. That's why Republicans don't like it.

For months I had been convincing all my friends and family to vote early, sending them articles about voter suppression laws passed by the GOP and telling them "There's probably gonna be a lot of shennanigans this election day. Might as well vote early and skip all the hassle." I got alot of people to vote early for the first time.

In the leadup to the next election I'm gonna send them articles about how people in Florida had to wait in line sometimes for 3-8 hours just to vote. Why deal with that? Vote as early as possible.

It's not right to have to wait 3-8 hours on election day. That is a problem that needs to be fixed.

If only there was something that could be done to allow people to vote earlier than election day. . .

I guess demanding that the government be more efficient is a silly idea. Maybe more stations or a simpler ballot. I can't wait for Obamacare.

Or even having early voting which increases voter turnout.

You still haven't given a plausible objection to early voting other than getting people not in your tribe to vote early.

As Ron Paul might say, "It's not in the Constitution."

Article I, Section 4:

Section. 4.

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

Article II, Section 1

The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislat ...


You left out the end..

The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

That means the election is to be held on the same Day thoughout the US.
 
2012-11-26 10:50:03 PM  
Okay, single model of voting machine. Electronic, AND a paper ballot that the voter sees before the ballot is cast. Anything amiss and that ballot, both paper and electronic, are invalidated. Expand the FEC and grant them the power to set up secure networks in all fifty states and territories. They also develop the software for the machine under the supervision of the DOJ and the FBI. Any laws about voter ID shall not be enforced until Federal courts have ruled on it. Oh, and any attempt at voter suppresion or vote rigging shall be construed as Sedition. Comments?
 
2012-11-26 10:51:49 PM  

badhatharry: 47 is the new 42: badhatharry: coeyagi: badhatharry: HighOnCraic: badhatharry: CorporatePerson: badhatharry: Democrats like early voting because it gives them more time to coral all their retard voters that can't just show up and vote on election day. That's why Republicans don't like it.

For months I had been convincing all my friends and family to vote early, sending them articles about voter suppression laws passed by the GOP and telling them "There's probably gonna be a lot of shennanigans this election day. Might as well vote early and skip all the hassle." I got alot of people to vote early for the first time.

In the leadup to the next election I'm gonna send them articles about how people in Florida had to wait in line sometimes for 3-8 hours just to vote. Why deal with that? Vote as early as possible.

It's not right to have to wait 3-8 hours on election day. That is a problem that needs to be fixed.

If only there was something that could be done to allow people to vote earlier than election day. . .

I guess demanding that the government be more efficient is a silly idea. Maybe more stations or a simpler ballot. I can't wait for Obamacare.

Or even having early voting which increases voter turnout.

You still haven't given a plausible objection to early voting other than getting people not in your tribe to vote early.

As Ron Paul might say, "It's not in the Constitution."

Article I, Section 4:

Section. 4.

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

Article II, Section 1

The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:

Each State shall appoint, in such Mann ...


You'd think some real life law-talking guy would've already tried to use that idea in a lawsuit to block early voting. And would this apply to absentee ballots as well?
 
2012-11-26 10:55:45 PM  

HighOnCraic: badhatharry: 47 is the new 42: badhatharry: coeyagi: badhatharry: HighOnCraic: badhatharry: CorporatePerson: badhatharry: Democrats like early voting because it gives them more time to coral all their retard voters that can't just show up and vote on election day. That's why Republicans don't like it.

For months I had been convincing all my friends and family to vote early, sending them articles about voter suppression laws passed by the GOP and telling them "There's probably gonna be a lot of shennanigans this election day. Might as well vote early and skip all the hassle." I got alot of people to vote early for the first time.

In the leadup to the next election I'm gonna send them articles about how people in Florida had to wait in line sometimes for 3-8 hours just to vote. Why deal with that? Vote as early as possible.

It's not right to have to wait 3-8 hours on election day. That is a problem that needs to be fixed.

If only there was something that could be done to allow people to vote earlier than election day. . .

I guess demanding that the government be more efficient is a silly idea. Maybe more stations or a simpler ballot. I can't wait for Obamacare.

Or even having early voting which increases voter turnout.

You still haven't given a plausible objection to early voting other than getting people not in your tribe to vote early.

As Ron Paul might say, "It's not in the Constitution."

Article I, Section 4:

Section. 4.

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

Article II, Section 1

The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:

Each State shall appoint, ...


WHOA partner! Getting rid of absentee ballots would hurt the right-leaning military!

//still waiting for someone to explain how the left isn't advocating that despite the right advocating getting rid of early voting
//"both sides are bad.... except in this case (and many others) when one side isn't trying to f*ck people out of rights"
 
2012-11-26 11:13:54 PM  

coeyagi: //still waiting for someone to explain how the left isn't advocating that despite the right advocating getting rid of early voting
//"both sides are bad.... except in this case (and many others) when one side isn't trying to f*ck people out of rights"


I can't speak for anyone else, but I know I had a few conversations with the Obama campaign lawyer who was working voter protection in my area about how messed up it is that people would actually try to make it harder for anyone to vote. Obviously, you hope that the people who are turning out are voting for your guy, but the only focus I saw in all of my months of recruiting people to do voter protection in Florida was on making sure that the process worked and that everybody who was eligible to vote and wanted to do so could.

For one side, the idea of keeping people from voting was unthinkable, for the other side it was the standard operating procedure.
 
2012-11-26 11:23:03 PM  
So they are a bunch of scumbags, that's OK because they are the party of Jesus and God.

Thy were just following the will of God and emulating Jesus. From this lessons I have learned the following:

1) Conservatives think God loves lying scumbags.
2) Conservatives think Jesus was a lying scumbag.

Otherwise, why would have they done such a thing?
 
2012-11-26 11:29:11 PM  
Though the state ultimately went to President Obama, the Republican effort to suppress votes was largely successful.

That is funny, that it is considered "successful".... which means if all of that crap wasn't in place, Obama would have probably won Florida by 4-5%.
 
2012-11-26 11:30:25 PM  

coeyagi: Retard voters? Ok, time to post this again:

2008 Educational Rankings:

Blue States Average: 20.5
Red States Average: 32.4


What was the educational ranking of? Creationism taught in schools?

Here's a real ranking by level of education achieved:

thumbnails.visually.netdna-cdn.com
 
2012-11-26 11:35:15 PM  

Zasteva: coeyagi: Retard voters? Ok, time to post this again:

2008 Educational Rankings:

Blue States Average: 20.5
Red States Average: 32.4

What was the educational ranking of? Creationism taught in schools?

Here's a real ranking by level of education achieved:

[thumbnails.visually.netdna-cdn.com image 850x923]


I wonder how Kansas does though if you throw out going to Liberty or Oral Roberts.
 
2012-11-26 11:35:47 PM  

badhatharry: The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

That means the election is to be held on the same Day thoughout the US.


Yes, the Day on which they [the Electors] shall give their Votes must be the same throughout the United States. It is: Dec 17th.
 
2012-11-26 11:37:50 PM  

coeyagi: badhatharry: HighOnCraic: badhatharry: And Democrats would like early voting to last 6 months.

As long as everyone was allowed to vote, why would extending early voting be a bad thing for either party?

/Or were you just trying to find some way to spin this as "Dems bad!!!!111!!!"?

Democrats like early voting because it gives them more time to coral all their retard voters that can't just show up and vote on election day. That's why Republicans don't like it.

Retard voters? Ok, time to post this again:

2008 Educational Rankings:

Blue States Average: 20.5
Red States Average: 32.4


Could the statistic be because the retarded high schools in red states are easy to pass?

Typical high exit exam in a red state: How many angels dance on the head of a pin? (secret answer: potato)
 
2012-11-26 11:40:07 PM  

badhatharry: I guess demanding that the government be more efficient is a silly idea.


Since in this case the government in question was run by a Republican governor and a Republican supermajority in the legislature, yes it probably would have been a silly idea.
 
2012-11-26 11:44:05 PM  

Zasteva: badhatharry: The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

That means the election is to be held on the same Day thoughout the US.

Yes, the Day on which they [the Electors] shall give their Votes must be the same throughout the United States. It is: Dec 17th.


Wow...why didn't any of us pick up on that earlier.
 
2012-11-27 12:00:53 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Zasteva: badhatharry: The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

That means the election is to be held on the same Day thoughout the US.

Yes, the Day on which they [the Electors] shall give their Votes must be the same throughout the United States. It is: Dec 17th.

Wow...why didn't any of us pick up on that earlier.


Something something feeding trolls.
 
2012-11-27 12:01:29 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Zasteva: badhatharry: The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

That means the election is to be held on the same Day thoughout the US.

Yes, the Day on which they [the Electors] shall give their Votes must be the same throughout the United States. It is: Dec 17th.

Wow...why didn't any of us pick up on that earlier.


Probably because the Constitution isn't written in modern english :-/
 
2012-11-27 12:04:45 AM  

rosebud_the_sled: coeyagi: badhatharry: HighOnCraic: badhatharry: And Democrats would like early voting to last 6 months.

As long as everyone was allowed to vote, why would extending early voting be a bad thing for either party?

/Or were you just trying to find some way to spin this as "Dems bad!!!!111!!!"?

Democrats like early voting because it gives them more time to coral all their retard voters that can't just show up and vote on election day. That's why Republicans don't like it.

Retard voters? Ok, time to post this again:

2008 Educational Rankings:

Blue States Average: 20.5
Red States Average: 32.4

Could the statistic be because the retarded high schools in red states are easy to pass?

Typical high exit exam in a red state: How many angels dance on the head of a pin? (secret answer: potato)


I wonder if we are misunderstanding this. As a ranking, perhaps the lower numbers would be the highest ranked states? So if the average of the blue states is lower, closer to one, then that means they are collectively ranked above the red states. Very confusing. I like the chart I posted above better.
 
2012-11-27 12:55:11 AM  
images.inquisitr.com

harfobama.files.wordpress.com

i.ytimg.com
 
2012-11-27 01:37:24 AM  

Zasteva: rosebud_the_sled: coeyagi: badhatharry: HighOnCraic: badhatharry: And Democrats would like early voting to last 6 months.

As long as everyone was allowed to vote, why would extending early voting be a bad thing for either party?

/Or were you just trying to find some way to spin this as "Dems bad!!!!111!!!"?

Democrats like early voting because it gives them more time to coral all their retard voters that can't just show up and vote on election day. That's why Republicans don't like it.

Retard voters? Ok, time to post this again:

2008 Educational Rankings:

Blue States Average: 20.5
Red States Average: 32.4

Could the statistic be because the retarded high schools in red states are easy to pass?

Typical high exit exam in a red state: How many angels dance on the head of a pin? (secret answer: potato)

I wonder if we are misunderstanding this. As a ranking, perhaps the lower numbers would be the highest ranked states? So if the average of the blue states is lower, closer to one, then that means they are collectively ranked above the red states. Very confusing. I like the chart I posted above better.


Yes, the concept of rankings being lower meaning they're better is a very difficult one.

We're #47! We're #47! -Some Red State

//you're doing it wrong, fly over state
 
2012-11-27 03:15:46 AM  

CorporatePerson: badhatharry: And Democrats would like early voting to last 6 months.

Since the election all my ditto head friends have been parrotting this "early voting = voter fraud" talking point.


Actually it's 'Democrat winng = voter fraud'. Funny thing is that they ignore the REAL voter fraud when their own people do it.

EVERY time.
 
2012-11-27 05:04:08 AM  

CorporatePerson: badhatharry: Democrats like early voting because it gives them more time to coral all their retard voters that can't just show up and vote on election day. That's why Republicans don't like it.

For months I had been convincing all my friends and family to vote early, sending them articles about voter suppression laws passed by the GOP and telling them "There's probably gonna be a lot of shennanigans this election day. Might as well vote early and skip all the hassle." I got alot of people to vote early for the first time.

In the leadup to the next election I'm gonna send them articles about how people in Florida had to wait in line sometimes for 3-8 hours just to vote. Why deal with that? Vote as early as possible.


This.

I always vote early. It started out as an "avoid the lines" thing, but now I also volunteer to work on election day. 24-7 businesses like hotels, hospitals, police officers, etc just can't close down to let their entire staff stand in line for 8 hours. Breaking that up and allowing folks to vote on different days is necessary for those businesses that are always open, especially in precincts with all-day lines.

I think the previous "six months" comment is a little ridiculous, but I am definitely in favour of officially turning "voting day" into "voting week".
 
2012-11-27 07:38:58 AM  

coeyagi: Zasteva: rosebud_the_sled: coeyagi: badhatharry: HighOnCraic: badhatharry: And Democrats would like early voting to last 6 months.

As long as everyone was allowed to vote, why would extending early voting be a bad thing for either party?

/Or were you just trying to find some way to spin this as "Dems bad!!!!111!!!"?

Democrats like early voting because it gives them more time to coral all their retard voters that can't just show up and vote on election day. That's why Republicans don't like it.

Retard voters? Ok, time to post this again:

2008 Educational Rankings:

Blue States Average: 20.5
Red States Average: 32.4

Could the statistic be because the retarded high schools in red states are easy to pass?

Typical high exit exam in a red state: How many angels dance on the head of a pin? (secret answer: potato)

I wonder if we are misunderstanding this. As a ranking, perhaps the lower numbers would be the highest ranked states? So if the average of the blue states is lower, closer to one, then that means they are collectively ranked above the red states. Very confusing. I like the chart I posted above better.

Yes, the concept of rankings being lower meaning they're better is a very difficult one.

We're #47! We're #47! -Some Red State

//you're doing it wrong, fly over state


It's the averaging that makes it confusing. We're #32.4 !! :-)
 
2012-11-27 08:22:54 AM  
From the tea party perspective, if their efforts could have excluded 40% of the black vote they would be returning to the original 3/5ths intent in the constitution.
 
2012-11-27 10:39:21 AM  

badhatharry: You left out the end..

The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.



You seem to be having a difficult time with the concept of the Electoral Collage.

As a free clue, please not the parts of the Constitution you are quoting refers to their actions, not to the methods of selecting the Electors. That is done by the State as the see fit (with some minor restritions)


Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.


"in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct". If the state legislature wants to have a protracted election process to pick their Electors, with early voting and everything, then fark you, the Constitution allows it. 

Geesh, isn't there a Scholastic Rock episode or something you can watch that explains this, if plain reading can't do it for you?
 
2012-11-27 11:03:48 AM  

Mikey1969: CorporatePerson: badhatharry: And Democrats would like early voting to last 6 months.

Since the election all my ditto head friends have been parrotting this "early voting = voter fraud" talking point.

Actually it's 'Democrat winning = voter fraud'. Funny thing is that they ignore the REAL voter fraud when their own people do it.

EVERY time.


And the best part..... ..... ..... forever!
 
2012-11-27 11:06:05 AM  

Mikey1969: CorporatePerson: badhatharry: And Democrats would like early voting to last 6 months.

Since the election all my ditto head friends have been parrotting this "early voting = voter fraud" talking point.

Actually it's 'Democrat winng = voter fraud'. Funny thing is that they ignore the REAL voter fraud when their own people do it.

EVERY time.


The facebook friend who keeps posting stuff accusing the Democrats of voter fraud actually committed it himself in 2000. For realsies.
 
2012-11-27 11:45:53 PM  
Nuh-uh!
Yuh-huh!
Nuh-uh!
Yuh-huh!
Nuh-uh!
Yuh-huh!
Nuh-uh!
Yuh-huh!
Nuh-uh!
Yuh-huh!
Nuh-uh!
Yuh-huh!
Nuh-uh!
Yuh-huh!
Nuh-uh!
Yuh-huh!
Nuh-uh!


Yuh-huh times infinity!
 
2012-11-28 12:51:46 AM  
You are gonna have to shoot me dead before you keep me from exercising my gods given right to vote.

FARK YOU.
 
Displayed 50 of 200 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »
Advertisement
On Twitter





In Other Media


  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report