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(Think Progress)   Set your faces to stunned: Florida Republicans admit voter suppression was the goal of new election laws   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 200
    More: Obvious, Florida Republicans, florida, voter suppression, election law, Florida GOP, Jim Greer, University of New Zealand, Floridians  
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2012-11-26 02:49:42 PM
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2012-11-26 03:23:29 PM
:O ---My stunned face.
 
2012-11-26 03:59:08 PM
How is this not illegal?
 
2012-11-26 04:36:43 PM

MrBallou: How is this not illegal?


How can a law be illegal? Unconstitutional, sure, but not illegal.
 
2012-11-26 04:43:26 PM
My only surprise is that they'd admit it
 
2012-11-26 04:46:25 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: My only surprise is that they'd admit it


Same here. They're getting more brazen.
 
2012-11-26 04:50:20 PM
It's time to cut our losses. 

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2012-11-26 04:51:58 PM
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2012-11-26 04:54:38 PM
Well, at least they found the voter fraud they were looking for.

So, despite all these efforts they still yielded this? Time and money well spent.
 
2012-11-26 05:06:48 PM
We got the same shiatty voter ID law passed here in PA, but at least the PA GOP admitted it was to steal the vote when they passed it.
 
2012-11-26 05:20:35 PM

MrBallou: How is this not illegal?

Ambivalence: How can a law be illegal? Unconstitutional, sure, but not illegal.


Dunno. It might make for an interesting circus to indict all the Florida legislators who voted for those laws, alleging that they were engaged in a conspiracy to oppress the free exercise of the franchise per 18 USC § 241. I don't think it would survive trial, much less the resulting appeals, but it would make for spectacular political theater.
 
2012-11-26 05:34:52 PM
As much as I like to make fun of Florida this was a nationwide GOP disenfranchisement effort.
 
2012-11-26 05:35:50 PM
fewer voters allowed to vote and they still couldn't finish counting on time. You suck, Florida!

/and Florida GOP
 
2012-11-26 05:36:23 PM
Well, duh.
 
2012-11-26 05:37:32 PM
honesty is a good first step in reaching out to the people in an attempt to broaden your base but being honest about how evil your party is, maybe not so much.
 
2012-11-26 05:38:30 PM

skullkrusher: fewer voters allowed to vote and they still couldn't finish counting on time. You suck, Florida!

/and Florida GOP


There's only one abacus in the whole state, what did you expect?

Excepting Cape Canaveral, but they weren't going to loan out their slide rules.
 
2012-11-26 05:39:54 PM
Isn't this basically evidence that could be used in a lawsuit to throw out those laws?.....
 
2012-11-26 05:40:12 PM
But....but... buses of illegals! And I don't personally know why people might not have ID!
 
2012-11-26 05:41:35 PM

Ambivalence: :O ---My stunned face.


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2012-11-26 05:41:41 PM
Would chortle again, well done subby.

Cheers
 
2012-11-26 05:42:14 PM
Want to know how incredibly unpopular the Republican party is... They cheated and they still couldn't win.

I don't expect them to learn the right lesson here... I suspect they will choose "cheat more" over "earn the trust of the voters".
 
2012-11-26 05:42:20 PM

SilentStrider: MaudlinMutantMollusk: My only surprise is that they'd admit it

Same here. They're getting more brazen.


They had to show their benefactors that they tried.
 
2012-11-26 05:42:26 PM

LazarusLong42: skullkrusher: fewer voters allowed to vote and they still couldn't finish counting on time. You suck, Florida!

/and Florida GOP

There's only one abacus in the whole state, what did you expect?

Excepting Cape Canaveral, but they weren't going to loan out their slide rules.


but those old farkers know when you've taken more than 2 Werther's from the candy dish. I think they're lying to us. They know how to count.
 
2012-11-26 05:42:46 PM
Has anyone totaled up how much it costs states to verify the eligibility of all those who had to cast provisional ballots due to these bullshiat laws?
 
2012-11-26 05:43:16 PM
They farked that up to by STILL losing FL.

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2012-11-26 05:43:17 PM
Since the individuals who admitted this are no longer public officials
(1) Was anyone identifiable denied the opportunity to vote?
(2) If so could these individuals named or the organization they putatively represent be held civilly liable?

Nice class action lawsuit effectively bankrupting the GOP in Florida, anyone?
 
2012-11-26 05:44:17 PM

anwserman: Isn't this basically evidence that could be used in a lawsuit to throw out those laws?.....


Depends on the judge...
 
2012-11-26 05:44:18 PM
Before any of the shills start whining about this being "Stink Progress" or some bullshiat, it was originally reported by the Palm Beach Post.
 
2012-11-26 05:44:38 PM
At least they admitted it?
 
2012-11-26 05:44:50 PM
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2012-11-26 05:45:05 PM

UNC_Samurai: Before any of the shills start whining about this being "Stink Progress" or some bullshiat, it was originally reported by the Palm Beach Post.


I prefer to put the "Think" in quotes but "Stink Progress" is pretty good
 
2012-11-26 05:46:03 PM

JohnnyC: Want to know how incredibly unpopular the Republican party is... They cheated and they still couldn't win.

I don't expect them to learn the right lesson here... I suspect they will choose "cheat more" over "earn the trust of the voters".


Agree with both points, great way to put it.
 
2012-11-26 05:46:34 PM
Wayne Bertsch, who handles local and legislative races for Republicans, said he knew targeting Democrats was the goal. "In the races I was involved in in 2008, when we started seeing the increase of turnout and the turnout operations that the Democrats were doing in early voting, it certainly sent a chill down our spines.

What? People in an opposing Party getting to express their Constitutionally protected right to vote? Jesus, what a slimy piece of shiat. I currently despise the GOP, but people getting to legitimately vote for GOP candidates doesn't "scare" me.
 
2012-11-26 05:47:21 PM

abb3w: MrBallou: How is this not illegal?
Ambivalence: How can a law be illegal? Unconstitutional, sure, but not illegal.

Dunno. It might make for an interesting circus to indict all the Florida legislators who voted for those laws, alleging that they were engaged in a conspiracy to oppress the free exercise of the franchise per 18 USC § 241. I don't think it would survive trial, much less the resulting appeals, but it would make for spectacular political theater.


That's what I'm thinking. The press barely even raises an eyebrow at this stuff anymore. It would be good to drag these guys out in the open for everybody to ridicule, even if it won't stick.
 
2012-11-26 05:48:57 PM
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"Sherlock Holmes, his bowels constipated."
 
2012-11-26 05:49:24 PM
Honestly, I'm just surprised anyone admits to being a Republican anymore.
 
2012-11-26 05:50:23 PM
They're just staying true to what the founding fathers wanted - for black people not to vote.
 
2012-11-26 05:52:24 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Honestly, I'm just surprised anyone admits to being a Republican anymore.


Because they never hear this kind of stuff. Know how much coverage this will get on Fox News and Limbaugh? Zero. Just like every other story you see here that exposes what the Republicans in charge really stand for.
 
2012-11-26 05:53:50 PM
Instead of setting my face to stunned, can I shoot them in the face with a stun-gun?
 
2012-11-26 05:54:17 PM
I wonder how many of these "anti-fraud" voter obstruction laws might have hurt the GOP based on the law of averages. How many Republican voters saw the long lines and decided to just go home since according to unskewed polls, a Romney win was certain?
 
2012-11-26 05:55:25 PM
My shocked face: ಠ_ಠ
 
2012-11-26 05:56:30 PM
Florida's 2010 Voting Law went through an automatic suit under the Voting Rights Act. This suit only examined if the impact, in covered counties, would be disproportionate to blacks or Hispanics. The suit was not completed, if memory serves. I believe they settled that the previous law would apply in the covered counties only. What I am saying is that there is no need for anyone to sue, I don't think, because there is already action on this.
 
2012-11-26 05:56:41 PM

heavymetal: I wonder how many of these "anti-fraud" voter obstruction laws might have hurt the GOP based on the law of averages. How many Republican voters saw the long lines and decided to just go home since according to unskewed polls, a Romney win was certain?


According to Nate Silver these kinds of laws give a 1-2% advantage to Republicans.
 
2012-11-26 05:57:03 PM
A GOP consultant who asked to remain anonymous out of fear of retribution said black voters were a concern. "I know that the cutting out of the Sunday before Election Day was one of their targets only because that's a big day when the black churches organize themselves," he said.

But don't you dare call them racists!
 
2012-11-26 05:59:28 PM
Everyone involved with voter ID or restricting voters in any way should be lined against the wall and shot.

I'm sorry your sh*tty, childish policies are not popular. Deal with it.

If you want to stand for something, stand for universal voting machines with a paper record for every single precinct in the country. If we can spend $10,000,000,000 on a f*cking aircraft carrier, we can damn well do the same for universal voting machines that work properly. Put the contract out for bid, make sure they have no ties to any party and go from there. Sure, it'll be hard to find a neutral company to make them, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try.

Just doing that would go much further to ensuring free and fair elections than any of your crackpot ideas to keep people you don't like away from the polls.
 
2012-11-26 06:00:23 PM

Headso: As much as I like to make fun of Florida this was a nationwide GOP disenfranchisement effort.


Yeah it was.

Even though here in PA the law was struck down by a judge shortly before the elections, they nice old ladies were still asking for IDs at the poll. When I asked them why they were checking IDs even though the law was struck down they said they were "practicing for next time".

It's a concerted effort and it's not over yet. Republicans have no desire to actually change with the demographics of the country, they will try every dirty trick in the book before treating non-white males like human beings.
 
2012-11-26 06:00:37 PM
Not for nothing, but Democratic organizations also tried to get Democrats elected by registering as many people as possible and encouraging them to vote. So see? They're both bad.
 
2012-11-26 06:00:49 PM

tnpir: It's time to cut our losses. 


Give me 3 days to get my family and belongings and get out!
 
2012-11-26 06:01:04 PM
And they STILL lost.

Nice job, retards.
 
2012-11-26 06:01:09 PM
Hey how about a petition to have the feds look into the voter irregularities of this past election?
 
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