EatHam: There is no superior product, just what works best for what it is you want to do. I'd never argue that an iPhone is better than an Android phone, but I know which one my father can work.
Kazan: ParanoidAgnostic: I've also heard disturbing rumors that windows 9 will go completely walled-garden.won't happen. tell whoever told you that to get their head out of their ass and imagine all the lawsuits microsoft wants to avoid
Grand_Moff_Joseph: Once again, MS arrives a few years late and millions of dollars short, then wonders why no one will buy their stuff. Did the Windows Phone and the Zune teach them nothing?
demaL-demaL-yeH: zedster: IDK, I always open terminal and then emacs on the laptops at the store. It confuses themOf course they were. How did you download and install that without admin privileges and the password?/You do know that pico is the built-in editor, right?//Go vim yourself, poser.
ParanoidAgnostic: I've also heard disturbing rumors that windows 9 will go completely walled-garden.
Beta Tested: I feel like I am living in bizarro world. I installed Win8 with great trepidation but loved it almost immediately. I was used to the FEW new controls there are within an hour and every once in a while I have to Google something I can't figure out. I actually don't think I've had to Google where stuff is any more than I did when switching to Vista and 7.And once I was used to it and configured it the way I liked it, it is faster and smoother than 7. The start menu was completely useless past the few pinned items.
imgod2u: That being said, all programs developed for Windows 8 will be able to run on both RT and Pro
Kazan: Theaetetus: The latter, albeit to make a point about the widespread ubiquity of "walled gardens" and how that complaint shows a stunning naivete.there are different levels of walled gardens though. Apple's is "Fort Knox" (walled software, hardware, etc) whereas Windows Store is "US/Canada Border" (Metro App QA gate)
Theaetetus: Also, I'd like to upload an App to the Windows Store, but I don't want to register or pay money... you can help with that, right?
ThatGuyGreg: I will never, in my life, understand peoples' wild-eyed allegiance to corporations. Generational thing? Probably... I just don't get it.
Theaetetus: zedster: EatHam: There is no superior product, just what works best for what it is you want to do. I'd never argue that an iPhone is better than an Android phone, but I know which one my father can work.No, but there is a superior philosophy, if walled gardens win the consumers loseAgreed. Can you send me a copy of the source code for Windows 8, incidentally? Also, I'd like to upload an App to the Windows Store, but I don't want to register or pay money... you can help with that, right?
SweetSaws: Ok, i tried it out by installing it on a virtual machine (Hyper-V) with 4 GB of memory, 1 processor, and it seemed to lag quite a bit. Also, i couldn't figure out how to enable remote access. ALSO, NO GOD DAMN START BUTTON. So, I faced all of these fundamental problems in the first 5 minutes of using it. What's so good about it?
jayhawk88: styckx: L.D. Ablo: Windows 8 is Vista redux.Windows 8 is actually really good.. Microsoft just has done an absolutely shiatty job advertising it and any questions and critiques regarding it are responded by putting their fingers in their ears and saying "I CAN"T HEAR YOU I CAN"T HEAR YOU"..Metro has been blown so completely out of proportion it's ridiculous.You can get used to Metro, sure, but the thing is, from a desktop perspective it's change for the sake of change. There's no good reason to do that to the Start Menu. On a tablet or some kind of touch screen sure, makes sense and probably is a lot more efficient. But on a desktop, it's just something you have to adapt to.
GAT_00: I don't get the corporational allegiance of Apple people either. I use Windows 7 and have Android phone, but I wouldn't call myself loyal to Microsoft or Google. They just have the better products. If you aren't an iFanatic and you actually compare products, you realize you're paying a farkton more for a product that is questionable at best in superiority. Plus I'm not buying shiat that's locked down like iPhones are.
zedster: EatHam: There is no superior product, just what works best for what it is you want to do. I'd never argue that an iPhone is better than an Android phone, but I know which one my father can work.No, but there is a superior philosophy, if walled gardens win the consumers lose
BunkyBrewman: xynix: This is what I'm waiting for: The 8 hour Asus Taichi [cdn.slashgear.com image 580x386]As much as I love Asus products, I just don't get the two screen thing on that device.
L.D. Ablo: Windows 8 is Vista redux.
Diogenes: I've never been to an Apple store as I do not have any Apple products other than my Ipod. But I get the impression the quality of Apple geeks working there is much higher than at MS.
ThatGuyGreg: Meh, the Microsoft store near me is always jammed, a constant flow of people walking out with bags o' stuff. With the Christmas season in full gear, it's definitely more of an Xbox store than a Surface store, but whatever, I'll keep my cheerleading for various forms of sportsball.I will never, in my life, understand peoples' wild-eyed allegiance to corporations. Generational thing? Probably... I just don't get it.
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