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(Washington Post)   Auburn football coach fired, will be paid nearly $50k per week for next 3 years to NOT coach. In other news, college football players still not allowed to get a free meal   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 65
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2012-11-26 02:45:35 PM  
 
2012-11-26 03:13:19 PM  
Or 156 $50,000 scholarships.
 
2012-11-26 03:15:06 PM  
blog.infochimps.com

The fans are complaining about the coach on the sideline. I want to hire a new staff.
 
2012-11-26 03:16:19 PM  
That's weird. I thought college football players on scholarship got all their meals free.
 
2012-11-26 03:17:29 PM  
Which of Chizik's assistants got the same payout as he did?
 
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2012-11-26 03:31:23 PM  

kwame: That's weird. I thought college football players on scholarship got all their meals free.


three squares a day like prison.
 
2012-11-26 03:40:07 PM  
I don't see what the big deal is. He was being paid and not coaching for the last 4 years.
 
2012-11-26 03:49:36 PM  
www.baseballhotcorner.com

Approves
 
2012-11-26 04:00:46 PM  
Headline is true...as long as NCAA investigators don't find a major violation they can retroactively fire him with cause for.
 
2012-11-26 04:01:51 PM  
Big deal. Over here in Knoxville we're going to be paying Dooley more than that (5 million) to not coach.
 
2012-11-26 04:03:37 PM  

JoeJitsu: I don't see what the big deal is. He was being paid and not coaching for the last 46 years.


Don't forget his amazing tenure at Iowa State, where he went 5-19, went 2-14 in the Big 12, and somehow got a better job at Auburn. For as much as people like to shiat on Lane Kiffin for getting great jobs despite a mediocre resume, Chizik's been far less deserving of the opportunities that have been handed to him on. Wonder what school will drink the kool-aid and be dumb enough to hire him next as an HC.
 
2012-11-26 04:11:49 PM  

velvet_fog: Wonder what school will drink the kool-aid and be dumb enough to hire him next as an HC.


Since he bumbled his way into a National Championship, there's no telling.
 
2012-11-26 04:11:51 PM  

velvet_fog: JoeJitsu: I don't see what the big deal is. He was being paid and not coaching for the last 46 years.

Don't forget his amazing tenure at Iowa State, where he went 5-19, went 2-14 in the Big 12, and somehow got a better job at Auburn. For as much as people like to shiat on Lane Kiffin for getting great jobs despite a mediocre resume, Chizik's been far less deserving of the opportunities that have been handed to him on. Wonder what school will drink the kool-aid and be dumb enough to hire him next as an HC.


Whichever school wants a guy who will happily bury his head in the sand while the boosters buy him a roster.
 
2012-11-26 04:12:50 PM  

kwame: That's weird. I thought college football players on scholarship got all their meals free.


NCAA athletes aren't even allowed to hold a part time job, which is farking ridiculous. The intent is to prevent superstar players from getting million dollar endorsements from the local used car magnate, but the consequence is that the girl going to school on a lacross scholarship and who upon graduation will spend her days slaving in her cube like the rest of us can't even come up with enough money to go to a movie, and if someone takes her out on a date she loses her scholarship.

It's a farking dumb system. They should simply allow those that are going on to become professional athletes to major in "Athletic Performance" (with classes like "managing the media, 321" and "how to invest million dollar signing bonuses") and be done with it.

Nancy the swim team captain can get that part time job at The Gap, and Andy Katzenmoyer doesn't have to pretend like he's actually studying for an academic degree.
 
2012-11-26 04:34:17 PM  
FTA: Gene Chizik epitomizes what's wrong with college football - or at least one thing that's wrong with college football. It's a little like shooting fish in a barrel, picking on college football, but let's take aim today at awarding hefty guaranteed contracts to average coaches.

The CEO's of America are outraged by this injustice.
 
2012-11-26 04:42:20 PM  

Rent Party: kwame: That's weird. I thought college football players on scholarship got all their meals free.

NCAA athletes aren't even allowed to hold a part time job, which is farking ridiculous. The intent is to prevent superstar players from getting million dollar endorsements from the local used car magnate, but the consequence is that the girl going to school on a lacross scholarship and who upon graduation will spend her days slaving in her cube like the rest of us can't even come up with enough money to go to a movie, and if someone takes her out on a date she loses her scholarship.

It's a farking dumb system. They should simply allow those that are going on to become professional athletes to major in "Athletic Performance" (with classes like "managing the media, 321" and "how to invest million dollar signing bonuses") and be done with it.

Nancy the swim team captain can get that part time job at The Gap, and Andy Katzenmoyer doesn't have to pretend like he's actually studying for an academic degree.


Actually, the solution is even simpler: just give them a stipend. I got a stipend every two weeks with my scholarship (academic), so it isn't even like this would be some new development. Just give them a couple hundred either biweekly or monthly, and be done with it - the athletes can go watch movies, or eat out, or buy some gas, or buy frelling MtG cards.
 
2012-11-26 04:52:19 PM  
I would be willing to not coach Auburn for 1/2 that price.
 
2012-11-26 04:56:10 PM  

ha-ha-guy: velvet_fog: JoeJitsu: I don't see what the big deal is. He was being paid and not coaching for the last 46 years.

Don't forget his amazing tenure at Iowa State, where he went 5-19, went 2-14 in the Big 12, and somehow got a better job at Auburn. For as much as people like to shiat on Lane Kiffin for getting great jobs despite a mediocre resume, Chizik's been far less deserving of the opportunities that have been handed to him on. Wonder what school will drink the kool-aid and be dumb enough to hire him next as an HC.

Whichever school wants a guy who will happily bury his head in the sand while the boosters buy him a roster.


So, Miami (FL)?
 
2012-11-26 04:57:26 PM  

kid_icarus: Big deal. Over here in Knoxville we're going to be paying Dooley more than that (5 million) to not coach.


5 million > 2.5 million x 3 yrs

/i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that there are multiple years of $5 million. Or maybe you just graduated from an sec school that doesn't start with the letter V
 
2012-11-26 05:07:23 PM  

animesucks: kid_icarus: Big deal. Over here in Knoxville we're going to be paying Dooley more than that (5 million) to not coach.

5 million > 2.5 million x 3 yrs

/i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that there are multiple years of $5 million. Or maybe you just graduated from an sec school that doesn't start with the letter V


whether his math for Dooley was off of not (it was) UT is going to have to have a lor of blood drives or see if they can eBay that mutt Smokey to pay for all of the ex-coach I.O.U.'s they've written:

* BUZZ PETERSON, men's basketball
Fired: March 2005; Owed: $1.39 million; Time allotted: 30 days

* ROD DELMONICO, baseball
Fired: June 2007; Owed: $430,000; Time allotted: One year

* PHILLIP FULMER, football
Fired: November 2008; Owed: $6 million; Time allotted: Four years

* BRUCE PEARL, men's basketball
Fired: March 2011; Owed: $948,728; Time allotted: 15 months

* TODD RALEIGH, baseball
Fired: Monday; Owed: $331,657.53; Time allotted: 13 months

and now Dooley. Good luck with that!
 
2012-11-26 05:24:37 PM  

velvet_fog: JoeJitsu: I don't see what the big deal is. He was being paid and not coaching for the last 46 years.

Don't forget his amazing tenure at Iowa State, where he went 5-19, went 2-14 in the Big 12, and somehow got a better job at Auburn. For as much as people like to shiat on Lane Kiffin for getting great jobs despite a mediocre resume, Chizik's been far less deserving of the opportunities that have been handed to him on. Wonder what school will drink the kool-aid and be dumb enough to hire him next as an HC.


I'm sure Texas wouldn't mind having him back at DC. Manny Diaz's defense gave up a combined 161 combined points to Oklahoma, WVU, and Baylor.
 
2012-11-26 05:25:03 PM  

velvet_fog: JoeJitsu: I don't see what the big deal is. He was being paid and not coaching for the last 46 years.

Don't forget his amazing tenure at Iowa State, where he went 5-19, went 2-14 in the Big 12, and somehow got a better job at Auburn. For as much as people like to shiat on Lane Kiffin for getting great jobs despite a mediocre resume, Chizik's been far less deserving of the opportunities that have been handed to him on. Wonder what school will drink the kool-aid and be dumb enough to hire him next as an HC.


Remember Turner Gill had one decent season at Buffalo and was the next 'great coach'. Auburn passed on him and hired Chizik and Charles Barkley was pissed and call the Auburn admin racists and all sorts of shiat. So Turner comes to KU and in 2 seasons goes 5-19.
 
2012-11-26 05:26:07 PM  
1: Yes, players are getting scammed by a system that pays them with a series of rolling one-year scholarships in exchange for being the principal labor behind a billion-dollar industry. There is a gap between what they receive and what their labor brings in, it's a matter of figuring out how to rectify that. My personal preference would be to see college athletes unionize and be allowed to sign endorsement deals.

2: For people complaining about university budgets and scholarships, every single dime of that buyout is coming from money raised by the athletic department through either boosters or revenue. It's sad that some business man will donate $5 million to the football team and maybe $5 thousand to the school that has to cut faculty and grad assistant positions; but it's his right to do that.

3: How many coaches get their full buyout? If the AD and the university are worth a damn, the coach forfeits whatever the rest if he takes a new job the next year. A buyout just means "we'll pay you a part of your salary to finish out your contract but not actually do your job." If he goes and gets another coaching gig, he's voluntarily forfeiting the remainder of the contract.

Of course, there are ways to weasel around that, like being hired by an NFL team as a "consultant" (looking at you, biatch Davis).
 
2012-11-26 05:28:16 PM  

kid_icarus: Big deal. Over here in Knoxville we're going to be paying Dooley more than that (5 million) to not coach.


Why not? We paid him the prior three years to not coach.

/ugh i feel bad now sorry coach

Rent Party: NCAA athletes aren't even allowed to hold a part time job, which is farking ridiculous.


What's also ridiculous is that you don't know that NCAA athletes actually can have part-time jobs.
 
2012-11-26 05:29:35 PM  

swankywanky: Good luck with that!


The solution's already been worked out. Three years of suspending academic provisions, and it's covered.
 
2012-11-26 05:33:52 PM  
y'all see what kirk ferentz will get to not coach if iowa ever was to get rid of him...iirc it's like $250K per month until something like 2020. it's a sweet deal for kirk.
 
2012-11-26 05:50:40 PM  
 
2012-11-26 06:25:27 PM  
This is what happens when you don't want somebody that works for you, but also don't want him to work for anybody else in the field.
 
2012-11-26 06:27:14 PM  

animesucks: kid_icarus: Big deal. Over here in Knoxville we're going to be paying Dooley more than that (5 million) to not coach.

5 million > 2.5 million x 3 yrs

/i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that there are multiple years of $5 million. Or maybe you just graduated from an sec school that doesn't start with the letter V


Ah, my bad for only skimming the article. The actual payout will (as I understand it) be 5.7 million when taking his coaching staff into account (that's assuming they do get canned and don't find other gainful employment right away). As someone above pointed out, though, we're still paying out on enough previous coaches that we could hire the Greek gods of Olympus.
 
2012-11-26 06:32:53 PM  

swankywanky: animesucks: kid_icarus: Big deal. Over here in Knoxville we're going to be paying Dooley more than that (5 million) to not coach.

5 million > 2.5 million x 3 yrs

/i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that there are multiple years of $5 million. Or maybe you just graduated from an sec school that doesn't start with the letter V

whether his math for Dooley was off of not (it was) UT is going to have to have a lor of blood drives or see if they can eBay that mutt Smokey to pay for all of the ex-coach I.O.U.'s they've written:

* BUZZ PETERSON, men's basketball
Fired: March 2005; Owed: $1.39 million; Time allotted: 30 days

* ROD DELMONICO, baseball
Fired: June 2007; Owed: $430,000; Time allotted: One year

* PHILLIP FULMER, football
Fired: November 2008; Owed: $6 million; Time allotted: Four years

* BRUCE PEARL, men's basketball
Fired: March 2011; Owed: $948,728; Time allotted: 15 months

* TODD RALEIGH, baseball
Fired: Monday; Owed: $331,657.53; Time allotted: 13 months

and now Dooley. Good luck with that!


Pearl has a 3 year show cause penalty with the NCAA, why is he on that list?
 
2012-11-26 06:41:43 PM  

PluckYew: Pearl has a 3 year show cause penalty with the NCAA, why is he on that list?


i think that means if he ever did get hired by another school either he or Tenn. (or both) would be fined by the NCAA. the firing was a separate issue and his severance was unrelated.

either way, as a UGA fan, the East just got a bit more breathing room unless they get really creative with the accounting for a new coach
 
2012-11-26 07:01:30 PM  
Gene "Cheeseball" Chizik?
 
- ISU fan. 
 
Ames; we're not just a four-letter crossword puzzle solution anymore!
 
2012-11-26 07:14:49 PM  

swankywanky: PluckYew: Pearl has a 3 year show cause penalty with the NCAA, why is he on that list?

i think that means if he ever did get hired by another school either he or Tenn. (or both) would be fined by the NCAA. the firing was a separate issue and his severance was unrelated.

either way, as a UGA fan, the East just got a bit more breathing room unless they get really creative with the accounting for a new coach


I would think that if he violated rules to the point that he was banned by the NCAA for the next 3 years, Tennessee could weasel out of paying the buyout for firing him.
 
2012-11-26 07:20:47 PM  
Subby is unaware of the Occasional Meal Policy?
 
2012-11-26 07:26:18 PM  

phalamir: Rent Party: kwame: That's weird. I thought college football players on scholarship got all their meals free.

NCAA athletes aren't even allowed to hold a part time job, which is farking ridiculous. The intent is to prevent superstar players from getting million dollar endorsements from the local used car magnate, but the consequence is that the girl going to school on a lacross scholarship and who upon graduation will spend her days slaving in her cube like the rest of us can't even come up with enough money to go to a movie, and if someone takes her out on a date she loses her scholarship.

It's a farking dumb system. They should simply allow those that are going on to become professional athletes to major in "Athletic Performance" (with classes like "managing the media, 321" and "how to invest million dollar signing bonuses") and be done with it.

Nancy the swim team captain can get that part time job at The Gap, and Andy Katzenmoyer doesn't have to pretend like he's actually studying for an academic degree.

Actually, the solution is even simpler: just give them a stipend. I got a stipend every two weeks with my scholarship (academic), so it isn't even like this would be some new development. Just give them a couple hundred either biweekly or monthly, and be done with it - the athletes can go watch movies, or eat out, or buy some gas, or buy frelling MtG cards.


They get between $1,000 and $1,500 a month tax free to spend on whatever they want if they choose to live off campus, in addition to tuition, medical insurance if their parents don't have it for them, monthly meals with boosters (if there is booster who wants to buy them dinner), free clothes, shoes, etc., and week long vacations including gift bags if their team makes a bowl game.
 
2012-11-26 08:41:42 PM  

A Fark Handle: y'all see what kirk ferentz will get to not coach if iowa ever was to get rid of him...iirc it's like $250K per month until something like 2020. it's a sweet deal for kirk.


Yep. I think it's 75% of his base salary through January 2020, which happens to work out to approximately a quarter of a million per month.

It seems like he's been rumored to be in the running for the "next head coaching job" for just about every AFC North team, so Iowa, in their infinite wisdom, kept restructuring and extending his contract.

As an Iowa fan, I'm disappointed in this year, and I feel like I had pretty low expectations this year (are there any other kind for Iowa fans). However, I do think he is actually a really good head coach who needs to find another offensive coordinator.
 
2012-11-26 08:41:55 PM  

meanmutton:

They get between $1,000 and $1,500 a month tax free to spend on whatever they want if they choose to live off campus, in addition to tuition, medical insurance if their parents don't have it for them, monthly meals with boosters (if there is booster who wants to buy them dinner), free clothes, shoes, etc., and week long vacations including gift bags if their team makes a bowl game.


$1000 a month? That'll cover rent AND ramen. And who can put a price on that tuition for comm majors at a state school. That degree is easily worth 1/10 of its cost at graduation. And monthly meals. A meal, ONCE A MONTH!

You forgot the final lucky break. Free weekly travel to places like Pulllman, Starkville, and College Station. They would be blown away by those sights if they ever left the Marriott Courtyard.

And just think of how little the universities get out of this. They're really doing those kids a huge favor.
 
2012-11-26 08:44:47 PM  

Rapmaster2000: meanmutton:

They get between $1,000 and $1,500 a month tax free to spend on whatever they want if they choose to live off campus, in addition to tuition, medical insurance if their parents don't have it for them, monthly meals with boosters (if there is booster who wants to buy them dinner), free clothes, shoes, etc., and week long vacations including gift bags if their team makes a bowl game.

$1000 a month? That'll cover rent AND ramen. And who can put a price on that tuition for comm majors at a state school. That degree is easily worth 1/10 of its cost at graduation. And monthly meals. A meal, ONCE A MONTH!

You forgot the final lucky break. Free weekly travel to places like Pulllman, Starkville, and College Station. They would be blown away by those sights if they ever left the Marriott Courtyard.

And just think of how little the universities get out of this. They're really doing those kids a huge favor.


I really do love you so much. $1k a month wouldn't cover my rent.
 
2012-11-26 09:01:58 PM  

Ponzholio: Remember Turner Gill had one decent season at Buffalo and was the next 'great coach'. Auburn passed on him and hired Chizik and Charles Barkley was pissed and call the Auburn admin racists and all sorts of shiat. So Turner comes to KU and in 2 seasons goes 5-19.


Of course, this is completely speculative on my part, but I think that Turner was a much better fit at Buffalo because I think the act, if you will, likely played a lot better there. It sounds like, from most accounts, he's a humble and religious guy. I think you can get kids to buy into that in a program where, in some ways, I think they're just "happy to be there".

At a BCS school like Kansas, even if they're bottom feeders in their conference, it's still a BCS school. I would imagine that the football players there would be a lot more "sure of themselves", so to speak. As a coach, I don't think he adjusted from the smaller stage and probably lost his players in the process. Coaching is important, but every great coach has to get buy-in from his top players.

And cheat. If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'.
 
2012-11-26 09:09:26 PM  
Shameful. Yet another reason the NFL > college football
 
2012-11-26 09:15:19 PM  

LeafyGreens: Rapmaster2000: meanmutton:

They get between $1,000 and $1,500 a month tax free to spend on whatever they want if they choose to live off campus, in addition to tuition, medical insurance if their parents don't have it for them, monthly meals with boosters (if there is booster who wants to buy them dinner), free clothes, shoes, etc., and week long vacations including gift bags if their team makes a bowl game.

$1000 a month? That'll cover rent AND ramen. And who can put a price on that tuition for comm majors at a state school. That degree is easily worth 1/10 of its cost at graduation. And monthly meals. A meal, ONCE A MONTH!

You forgot the final lucky break. Free weekly travel to places like Pulllman, Starkville, and College Station. They would be blown away by those sights if they ever left the Marriott Courtyard.

And just think of how little the universities get out of this. They're really doing those kids a huge favor.

I really do love you so much. $1k a month wouldn't cover my rent.


And you live in Atlanta? You're either renting something much nicer than most Atlanta college students or you're getting ripped off.
 
2012-11-26 09:27:13 PM  

Rapmaster2000: meanmutton:

They get between $1,000 and $1,500 a month tax free to spend on whatever they want if they choose to live off campus, in addition to tuition, medical insurance if their parents don't have it for them, monthly meals with boosters (if there is booster who wants to buy them dinner), free clothes, shoes, etc., and week long vacations including gift bags if their team makes a bowl game.

$1000 a month? That'll cover rent AND ramen. And who can put a price on that tuition for comm majors at a state school. That degree is easily worth 1/10 of its cost at graduation. And monthly meals. A meal, ONCE A MONTH!

You forgot the final lucky break. Free weekly travel to places like Pulllman, Starkville, and College Station. They would be blown away by those sights if they ever left the Marriott Courtyard.

And just think of how little the universities get out of this. They're really doing those kids a huge favor.


You do know that the vast majority of universities operate their athletic departments at a loss, right? The amusing thing is that Auburn is one of these schools -- in 2010-2011 (the most recent year that the NCAA has data), Auburn lost over $800,000 having an athletic program. Ole Miss lost $1.6 million. (the rest of the SEC made money on athletics). About half the Big Ten lost money. Most of the Big 12 lost money. The only Pac-12 team to make money was Oregon. Every other university in all of collegiate sports spent more on athletics than they brought in.

There are a few college athletes who might make more money in a free, open system. These are the same ones who are going to make huge money in the NFL and the NBA in a few years. There might be a few players here or there who are incredibly valuable to their team and won't have a significant professional career (Denard Robinson comes to mind) but for every Denard Robinson who's getting "screwed", there are literally hundreds of college athletes getting compensated vastly disproportionate to what they're bringing into the university.
 
2012-11-26 09:29:34 PM  

meanmutton: in 2010-2011 (the most recent year that the NCAA has data), Auburn lost over $800,000 having an athletic program


Championships ain't cheap
 
2012-11-26 09:30:16 PM  

Doogled: LeafyGreens: Rapmaster2000: meanmutton:

They get between $1,000 and $1,500 a month tax free to spend on whatever they want if they choose to live off campus, in addition to tuition, medical insurance if their parents don't have it for them, monthly meals with boosters (if there is booster who wants to buy them dinner), free clothes, shoes, etc., and week long vacations including gift bags if their team makes a bowl game.

$1000 a month? That'll cover rent AND ramen. And who can put a price on that tuition for comm majors at a state school. That degree is easily worth 1/10 of its cost at graduation. And monthly meals. A meal, ONCE A MONTH!

You forgot the final lucky break. Free weekly travel to places like Pulllman, Starkville, and College Station. They would be blown away by those sights if they ever left the Marriott Courtyard.

And just think of how little the universities get out of this. They're really doing those kids a huge favor.

I really do love you so much. $1k a month wouldn't cover my rent.

And you live in Atlanta? You're either renting something much nicer than most Atlanta college students or you're getting ripped off.


I live in midtown and have a 1.5m commute to work. It's a nice place with a great view, and my check from work takes care of me.People I work with who live OTP boggle at my rent, but then I boggle at their gas bills. I fill up my tank once a month while they spend $300-400 on gas a month.
 
2012-11-26 09:43:04 PM  

meanmutton:

You do know that the vast majority of universities operate their athletic departments at a loss, right? The amusing thing is that Auburn is one of these schools -- in 2010-2011 (the most recent year that the NCAA has data), Auburn lost over $800,000 having an athletic program. Ole Miss lost $1.6 million. (the rest of the SEC made money on athletics). About half the Big Ten lost money. Most of the Big 12 lost money. The only Pac-12 team to make money was Oregon. Every other university in all of collegiate sports spent more on athletics than they brought in.

There are a few college athletes who might make more money in a free, open system. These are the same ones who are going to make huge money in the NFL and the NBA in a few years. There might be a few players here or there who are incredibly valuable to their team and won't have a significant professional career (Denard Robinson comes to mind) but for every Denard Robinson who's getting "screwed", there are literally hundreds of college athletes getting compensated vastly disproportionate to what they're bringing into the university.


That only makes sense if you make two assumptions.

1. You confuse value with cost. A degree which I don't want, which I will not use, and by its very nature I cannot transfer is worth very little no matter how much it costs.

2. While the athletic department loses money, it is well known that a primary driver of alumni donations is athletics. While there are challenges to the amount of value it brings (usually from the academic programs themsevles), the athletic department can make a loss while the university makes a net gain. A question to ask yourself is, if athletic programs are such money losers, why do universities have them? Why is a school like Georgia State (Georgia who? Exactly.) creating a D-1 football program out of whole cloth in 2008 if it's such a bad financial deal?

I'm not really complaining about the status quo. I understand that it's an entertainment package and the players are the stars. I'm just don't buy the "those lucky kids and their free education" yarns. If you're the NFL, then you love the status quo. You get a free farm system.
 
2012-11-26 10:35:51 PM  

John Buck 41: Shameful. Yet another reason the NFL > college football


You got that completely backwards and also left off about a dozen greater than signs
 
2012-11-26 10:36:00 PM  

meanmutton: The amusing thing is that Auburn is one of these schools -- in 2010-2011 (the most recent year that the NCAA has data), Auburn lost over $800,000 having an athletic program.


Oh really?

The 2010-2011 season was what put auburn sports back in the profitability column after losing money for a bit.

LeafyGreens: I live in midtown and have a 1.5m commute to work. It's a nice place with a great view, and my check from work takes care of me.People I work with who live OTP boggle at my rent, but then I boggle at their gas bills. I fill up my tank once a month while they spend $300-400 on gas a month.


Unless you drive a delivery truck for a living you do not spend $300 a month, hell our fleet trucks barely hit $250-$300 and they drive all around metro atlanta out west to carrolton and east to athens, so stop lying. You can get a decent place downtown for under a grand, especially with a room mate which all college kids have, mainly because you are rarely there so who cares?

Rapmaster2000: Why is a school like Georgia State (Georgia who? Exactly.) creating a D-1 football program out of whole cloth in 2008 if it's such a bad financial deal?


Because people see it as a frivolous expense, instead of paying attention to how large donations are when the school has a football program, schools that drop it usually add it back since they notice over a 50% drop in alumni donations the year after football is dropped.

Bottom line, its all about money.
 
2012-11-26 10:38:12 PM  

John Buck 41: Shameful. Yet another reason the NFL > college football


Pro sports lack the passion of college sports plus too many cold weather stadiums, fark that shiat, cold weather is for hockey.
 
2012-11-26 10:47:27 PM  

steamingpile: LeafyGreens: I live in midtown and have a 1.5m commute to work. It's a nice place with a great view, and my check from work takes care of me.People I work with who live OTP boggle at my rent, but then I boggle at their gas bills. I fill up my tank once a month while they spend $300-400 on gas a month.

Unless you drive a delivery truck for a living you do not spend $300 a month, hell our fleet trucks barely hit $250-$300 and they drive all around metro atlanta out west to carrolton and east to athens, so stop lying. You can get a decent place downtown for under a grand, especially with a room mate which all college kids have, mainly because you are rarely there so who cares?



Who said I was in college? 

Also, who wants to live downtown?
 
2012-11-26 10:54:24 PM  

LeafyGreens: steamingpile: LeafyGreens: I live in midtown and have a 1.5m commute to work. It's a nice place with a great view, and my check from work takes care of me.People I work with who live OTP boggle at my rent, but then I boggle at their gas bills. I fill up my tank once a month while they spend $300-400 on gas a month.

Unless you drive a delivery truck for a living you do not spend $300 a month, hell our fleet trucks barely hit $250-$300 and they drive all around metro atlanta out west to carrolton and east to athens, so stop lying. You can get a decent place downtown for under a grand, especially with a room mate which all college kids have, mainly because you are rarely there so who cares?

Who said I was in college? 

Also, who wants to live downtown?


Anything ITP is "downtown". SWATs, East Atlanta, Midtown, Decatur... it's all "downtown". I live in Toco Hills. An acquaintance from Stone Mountain calls it "downtown."
 
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