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(Philly Burbs)   You can't biatch that you were fired from your job while you were off helping with Hurricane Sandy as a Volunteer Firefighter when your boss doesn't know you're a Volunteer Firefighter and instead of telling him you just go AWOL   (phillyburbs.com) divider line 56
    More: Dumbass, AWOL, volunteer firefighters, Robert Campolongo, Ocean County, Burlington County, boilers, firefighters, Cliff Cini  
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2012-11-26 09:43:49 PM

fluffy2097: PluckYew: Um what? Maybe you meant fired for cause?

Fired usually means it was something you did. As opposed to being laid off or downsized.


True enough but unless you're actively stealing from your employer, you are likely to still be eligible to collect unemployment.

I was fired once, when I found out the owner was stealing from the employees (ERISA issues). Had he disputed it, I had/have pages of documentation of his theft. As it happened, he didn't dispute it. I collected unemployment.
 
2012-11-26 10:01:45 PM

PluckYew: fluffy2097: PluckYew: Um what? Maybe you meant fired for cause?

Fired usually means it was something you did. As opposed to being laid off or downsized.

True enough but unless you're actively stealing from your employer, you are likely to still be eligible to collect unemployment.

I was fired once, when I found out the owner was stealing from the employees (ERISA issues). Had he disputed it, I had/have pages of documentation of his theft. As it happened, he didn't dispute it. I collected unemployment.


One of the important things to make note of is the exact phrasing used by your employer. When I got booted from a certain shiatty university secretary job, I was told I 'was being let go'; when my unemployment was denied at first, I responded with that quote and also that despite telling them about my ADHD and trying to do the work despite it (it's covered under ADA protections), yet there was no effort on the boss' part to try and work with me. On the contrary, I felt like things got worse after I told the boss about that.

About two weeks later, UI was approved with no further questions. So always remember exactly what they say to you, and document anything skeezy that your employers do...

(Another note - my employee review that had my rebuttals to their issues with me was outright MISSING from my HR file when I stopped by on my way out on my last day. Gotta love it.)
 
2012-11-26 11:39:38 PM

JohnCarter: Wants to be a real fireman, but obviously cannot, so he is a volunteer, which is fine, operative word being "volunteer".

Also FTFA "I'm one of the engineers that can drive it,"...so is this a boat or a train we are talking about? I have never heard of someone driving a boat called an engineer; Pilot or Captain, I thought the engineer handled..well the engines.


Uh, dude. Please don't insult Volunteer Firemen. They go through the same training that Professional, Paid Firefighters do. They just don't get paid to do so.

70% of the United States Fire Service is volunteer.

/came from an ISO4 Volunteer Department.
 
2012-11-27 09:58:15 AM

JohnCarter: Also FTFA "I'm one of the engineers that can drive it,"...so is this a boat or a train we are talking about? I have never heard of someone driving a boat called an engineer; Pilot or Captain, I thought the engineer handled..well the engines


Well, it is likely he'll be promoted to Sanitation Engineer somewhere. It might be a step down, but the title opens up his possibilities.
 
2012-11-27 10:44:03 AM
What, exactly, do people do when they get fired and cannot collect unemployment?

In this piece of crap economy, it takes at least a few months, if not longer, to find a job. Getting canned and not receiving unemployment seems like a death sentence.
 
2012-11-27 06:27:59 PM
Death sentence? You're acting like the government has ruled that this guy should be shot in the head.

Finding a good job can take some time. Finding *a* job isn't so hard. Nobody should be able to intentionally get fired and expect to just have the government hand them money forever. This guy had a job, but he didn't want it.

He started a new job, and within a month he didn't show up to work, didn't call in to work, didn't answer the phone when his boss called, didn't respond to texts.

Then when they finally *do* talk, he comes across with an attitude.

This is a quote from his boss. "You have no idea how busy we are. With major problems. And you were nowhere to be found or let alone heard from. So let me calm down as my phone keeps ringing. And call me in 30 minutes, if you choose to keep working for L&C. I tend to forgive very easily. If I don't hear from you, I wish you luck, Rob"

The boss gave him a chance, right there. He point blank says "I forgive easily, call me, we can work it out".

And the guy still won't work.

When someone outright refuses to work, the rest of us don't owe them a free paycheck. And claims that "If he doesn't get a free paycheck it's a death sentence" are just plain stupid.
 
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