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2012-11-26 02:04:06 PM
3 votes:
Those are a little too minimalist.
2012-11-26 02:31:11 PM
2 votes:
img11.imageshack.us
2012-11-26 02:25:13 PM
2 votes:
Quick and dirty, but I think more obvious than most of the ones in that article. 

eldalin.com
2012-11-26 02:06:02 PM
2 votes:
subby has confused minimalist with shiatty
2012-11-26 01:59:45 PM
2 votes:
That's pretty lame. So he just took some easily recognized symbol from the games, and put it in a box with a hipster pastel look.
2012-11-26 06:10:35 PM
1 votes:

Ishkur: I love it when people tell other people they are ridiculously wrong but never explain how or why they are wrong.

That's really helpful.


Well we could start with the fact that the OP stated "I don't think you can trademark lambda." and the response indicated "A stylized Greek letter Lambda can be copyrighted, much like Honda's stylized Roman letter H." Since the words at issue are pretty clearly distinct I didn't think too much explanation as to why this is wrong was needed.

But if you want a quick refresher on the differences between the 4 great IP doctrines - no problem:

Patent: Constitutionally enabled IP, meant to cover functional items and processes. Trumps all other forms of IP, in that if something is functional, it cannot be either a trademark (trade dress - see Traffix Devices, Inc. v. Marketing Displays, Inc., 532 U.S. 23 (2001)) or covered by copyright (see 17 U.S.C. 102(b)). Now we can debate the flaws in the Patent system, but it is intended to cover what we normally would consider inventions. They exist to get inventors to disclose their inventions rather than hiding them. To get a patent an applicant must apply to the government and jump through a series of theoretically strict hoops, showing that the invention is novel, non-obvious, useful, and enabled - all of which are complex legal concepts with lengthy and tangled histories. You do not need to copy someone to violate patent law - you can invent something totally on your own and still infringe if that invention is presently patented. Lasts 20 years from the date of filing.

Copyright: Constitutionally enabled IP, meant to cover artistic works. They exist to encourage the production of art by allowing artists to monetize the positive externalizes their art creates. The main requirement of copyright is that the work in question must be fixed in a tangible medium of expression and must be more than a mere idea. This is in part because of the constitutional requirement that a given work be attributable to a specific author. Thus one cannot copyright a word or even most simple pictures or symbols, as there is simply not enough info to tie them to a given author.

There is no requirement to register with the government to gain rights in a copyright - any fixation of a work in a "permanent" medium is protected automatically. Copyright grants a series of rights, but in general all of them require that the junior user copies the rights holder. Thus, as the quote goes, "if by some magic a man who had never known it were to compose anew Keats's Ode on a Grecian Urn, he would be an 'author,' and, if he copyrighted it, others might not copy that poem" Sheldon v. Metro-Goldwyn Pictures Corp., 81 F.2d 49, 54 (2d Cir. 1936). Copyright, at present lasts for the life of the author +70 years or 95/120 years for corporations.

Trademark
: Not constitutionally enabled - thus there is both federal (through the commerce clause) and state law covering trademark. Trademarks exist to prevent consumer confusion - that is, they exist to offer a clear indication of source for a product. As such, trademarks must be described in terms of the products they are associated with. The same word mark can be associated with multiple products, as long as there is not much of a chance that consumers will get confused (see, e.g., delta airlines vs delta faucets). Additionally, trademarks extend only as far as consumers know of them - thus a mark that is valid in NY may not apply against a product being sold under the same mark in CA. Federal registration does not give a mark holder many more rights, but they do make the geographic reach of a mark cover the entire nation as a matter of law.

Because they exist to prevent confusion, anything can be a trademark as long as consumers see it as a symbol of who makes a product. Single letters, weird logos, even colors (in rare cases) can be trademarks - however a rule of thumb is that the simpler and more common a mark is, the less likely it will be a valid trademark. Trademark holders are required to sue if their mark is being infringed. If they do not, and sit on their hands, it is likely that their mark will be invalidated or - in the worst scenario - declared generic. This has happened to many old trademarks, such as heroin, the escalator, the thermos, etc. As long as the rights holder enforces their mark and consumers see it as a signifier of source, trademarks last forever.

Trade Secret: The red headed step child of IP, trade secret is not constitutionally enabled and is usually created by state law. To be covered by trade secret, the information must be generally not known to the public; this secrecy must grant some economic benefit to the holder and the holder must expend reasonable efforts to maintain its secrecy. The purpose of TS law is to prevent an arms race of corporate espionage. If a trade secret is discovered without wrong-doing (as an example, by reverse engineering the invention) then there can be no violation and usually the trade secret is extinguished. Trade Secret also lasts forever. Many things that are either very difficult to patent/copyright (culinary recipes are an example) or that can easily be kept secret are held as trade secrets.

TL;DR version:
Patents - inventions
Copyright - minimally complex art
Trademarks - symbols or words used to denote the source of a consumer good
Trade Secret - economically valuable confidential info

Notice how these are very different from each other
2012-11-26 05:50:57 PM
1 votes:

SavageWombat: That's not Gauntlet, that's clearly Adventure.


Someone get this freaking duck away from me!
2012-11-26 04:37:15 PM
1 votes:

GaidinCanuck: Those are a little too minimalist.


This. I couldn't guess a single one without the mouse-over, and with it, very few made sense.
2012-11-26 04:23:03 PM
1 votes:
he's described as incredibly talented. I wonder who paid the author to say that.
2012-11-26 04:22:18 PM
1 votes:

Fish in a Barrel: Why'd they use the Black Mesa symbol when the actual game icon is just as simple and far more recognizable?


Because they want to sell t-shirts without using trademarks.

The crowbar would've fit their dumb theme better.
2012-11-26 03:49:08 PM
1 votes:
That's not Gauntlet, that's clearly Adventure.
2012-11-26 03:07:40 PM
1 votes:
They missed the best one of all..

upload.wikimedia.org

/grue
2012-11-26 02:37:19 PM
1 votes:
img12.imageshack.us
2012-11-26 02:06:44 PM
1 votes:

GaidinCanuck: Those are a little too minimalist.


Yeah, it's not just about taking stuff away in the art, it's about taking stuff away and leaving as much meaning and recognition as possible.
2012-11-26 02:06:37 PM
1 votes:
A bit too minimalist. I personally like a bunch of the stuff at Fangamer...

Like this one.

cdn.shopify.com (Hotlinked)

Planning on grabbing it at some point.

/Also, its fun to see posters of the less-recognizable, but great games, like Earthbound.
// oh god does this make me a videogame hipster?
2012-11-26 02:03:15 PM
1 votes:
Those are lame.
2012-11-26 02:02:33 PM
1 votes:
Some of those might make pretty good t-shirts.
 
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