coeyagi: Okay, we are at the crux of the argument now.Show me any film for an American audience where the American military or U.S. government is the villain and some foreigner or foreign group is the protagonist. Because that would be the appropriate counter example to this movie and why the Chinese were not the enemy.
ArkAngel: HulkHands: The best part was the guy saying how it was more realistic to have such a small army (N. Korea) take over and occupy the USIIRC, North Korea has one of the largest standing armies in the world
Tailgunner Joe: As someone who was a teen in the 80's....I don't know if I will or be able to sit through this remake.Hell the original had some great linesAfter the first action with the enemy:Danny,"they were people"Robert, "yeah?....well so was my dad"Mr Eckert...."Avenge me boys!!!Avenge me!!!!"Good stuff!, great cast, they even threw in Powers Boothe.Sure it was a campy pro-USA! USA! movie, but I always thought it was pretty good. Milius even got it right when the enemy commander told his troops to go to the sporting good store to get the "form 4473's" to find out who owned/bought guns.The original was a even a pretty good primer for WW3 survival, to this day the friggin' mayors kid isn't coming no where near any group of mine.
devildog123: coeyagi: Jim_Callahan: coeyagi: Non-extra terrestrial foreigner. Sorry, should have obviously specified.OK. Sitting Bull.Though, that said, we established the general point (that the US will still watch movies where the US is the villain, or even cartoonishly evil) a long while back and now we're just moving the goal posts more and more arbitrarily specific as an academic exercise.Ok, but can you honestly state that there is a very close counter point (for U.S. audiences) where the U.S. military or government invades another country and the citizens of that country are the protagonists. Yes, I am moving the goalposts so that they mirror this movie.Again, I am not saying there aren't, and I will shake and mea culpa if you find one just like this movie but in reverse.Dances with Wolves/Avatar.
DarnoKonrad: coeyagi: Okay, we are at the crux of the argument now.Show me any film for an American audience where the American military or U.S. government is the villain and some foreigner or foreign group is the protagonist. Because that would be the appropriate counter example to this movie and why the Chinese were not the enemy.E.T.
Pocket Ninja: My opinion of someone who goes to see this movie is about the same as someone who lines up to catch the latest Fast and Furious installment. Maybe slightly lower.
HulkHands: The best part was the guy saying how it was more realistic to have such a small army (N. Korea) take over and occupy the US
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