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(Wall Street Journal)   Want proof China already owns us? The producer of 'Red Dawn' said "And to make a long story short, no one would distribute the film if the enemy was China"   (blogs.wsj.com) divider line 209
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2012-11-26 12:19:17 PM
Proof that Hollywood markets movies in China, you mean?
 
2012-11-26 12:19:19 PM
The best part was the guy saying how it was more realistic to have such a small army (N. Korea) take over and occupy the US
 
2012-11-26 12:20:06 PM
WE GET ALL OF OUR CHEAP SH*T FROM THERE.
 
2012-11-26 12:25:24 PM

HulkHands: The best part was the guy saying how it was more realistic to have such a small army (N. Korea) take over and occupy the US


IIRC, North Korea has one of the largest standing armies in the world
 
2012-11-26 12:27:18 PM

ArkAngel: HulkHands: The best part was the guy saying how it was more realistic to have such a small army (N. Korea) take over and occupy the US

IIRC, North Korea has one of the largest standing armies in the world


They have a million or so soldiers, but their tech sucks. I wouldn't want to ever have to confront them in a land war.
 
2012-11-26 12:42:57 PM

ToxicMunkee: WE GET ALL OF OUR CHEAP SH*T FROM THERE.


I don't know...I knewa cheap slut in HS and she was from Brazil.
 
2012-11-26 12:44:22 PM
It would be more believable that a bunch of kids could fend off an attack from Best Korea.

Why does North Korea test nukes underground?

Because their missiles never launch.
 
2012-11-26 12:48:49 PM

make me some tea: ArkAngel: HulkHands: The best part was the guy saying how it was more realistic to have such a small army (N. Korea) take over and occupy the US

IIRC, North Korea has one of the largest standing armies in the world

They have a million or so soldiers, but their tech sucks. I wouldn't want to ever have to confront them in a land war.


Im pretty sure best Korea would have to fly coach to get enough troops over here to invade.
 
2012-11-26 12:51:05 PM
My opinion of someone who goes to see this movie is about the same as someone who lines up to catch the latest Fast and Furious installment. Maybe slightly lower.
 
2012-11-26 12:52:48 PM
This was news 6 months ago when it happened, but yeah Hollywood has no balls. Make a movie that the Chinese won't steal, or make a movie that Americans don't want to see. It was never even a hard choice.
 
2012-11-26 12:53:22 PM

ArkAngel: HulkHands: The best part was the guy saying how it was more realistic to have such a small army (N. Korea) take over and occupy the US

IIRC, North Korea has one of the largest standing armies in the world


With machine guns that were used in the Korean war. Seal Team 6 could probably take out half of the NK army by themselves.
 
2012-11-26 12:56:00 PM

traxan: Seal Team 6 could probably take out half of the NK army by themselves.


Hell, even a bunch of redneck kids in the woods could probably pull that off.
 
2012-11-26 12:56:54 PM
China holds around 8% of the national debt. The majority of it is held domestically. You stupid farking xenophobic farks.
 
2012-11-26 01:06:10 PM
Actually, it was Wal-Mart that applied the pressure
 
2012-11-26 01:07:51 PM
The studio suits should have seen this from the beginning. If they absolutely had to remake this (which they didn't), they should have made it a period piece and gone with the Soviets again. But no one accused studio suits of being smart.

If they had to set it in the present, China produces every piece of shiat we buy. If they cut that off for a few weeks, that would put them in a semi-realistic position to invade us. North Korea is a farking joke.
 
2012-11-26 01:10:13 PM
Personally, I think they should've had the Canadians invade

Red Dawn 2: It's Aboot Time
 
2012-11-26 01:29:48 PM

Jackson Herring: China holds around 8% of the national debt. The majority of it is held domestically. You stupid farking xenophobic farks.


Who are you yelling at?
 
2012-11-26 01:38:42 PM
There's a lot of people in China.

They watch movies.

That is all.
 
2012-11-26 01:42:37 PM

make me some tea: ArkAngel: HulkHands: The best part was the guy saying how it was more realistic to have such a small army (N. Korea) take over and occupy the US

IIRC, North Korea has one of the largest standing armies in the world

They have a million or so soldiers, but their tech sucks. I wouldn't want to ever have to confront them in a land war.


We'd just air drop some pizzas and other food stuff, and they'd probably defect immediately. I hear they don't eat so well up there.
 
2012-11-26 02:05:20 PM

DrySocket: make me some tea: ArkAngel: HulkHands: The best part was the guy saying how it was more realistic to have such a small army (N. Korea) take over and occupy the US

IIRC, North Korea has one of the largest standing armies in the world

They have a million or so soldiers, but their tech sucks. I wouldn't want to ever have to confront them in a land war.

Im pretty sure best Korea would have to fly coach to get enough troops over here to invade.


They can't afford that. They'll have to use makeshift rafts, inner tubes, balloons and lawn chairs, etc.

If any make it, we take them to Hometown Buffet and the invasion fizzles.
 
2012-11-26 02:09:35 PM

Jackson Herring: China holds around 8% of the national debt. The majority of it is held domestically. You stupid farking xenophobic farks.


The national debt has absolutely nothing to do with movie distribution. Nothing.

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Jackson Herring: China holds around 8% of the national debt. The majority of it is held domestically. You stupid farking xenophobic farks.

Who are you yelling at?


Clouds?

Lionel Mandrake: There's a lot of people in China.

They watch movies.

That is all.


I hear that not paying for them is big over there, though.
 
2012-11-26 02:14:45 PM

Pocket Ninja: My opinion of someone who goes to see this movie is about the same as someone who lines up to catch the latest Fast and Furious installment. Maybe slightly lower.


I watched the original Red Dawn again a couple nights ago. That was probably my favorite movie growing up as I was young enough to be scared to death of that kind of shiat. The movie was gritty and the casting was spot on. These were desperate, scared, and pissed off kids who were trained in using firearms to a degree by their parents - lifelong hunters. The movie, at least to me, was very believable. Lets face it - we had a great enemy back then. An entire country and population we could hate and point missiles at. Now we have Best Korea and a rag-tag group of terrorists on the outskirts of some shiathole in the middle east.

This new Red Dawn is for the Twilight crowd. All kinds of glitz, great hair, Armani clothes, Somehow the kids get military training growing up in a rich white neighborhood and that's never explained. No one is tough.. They try to make all the "men" sensitive wimps. The girls never seem to get dirty or a hair out of place. Seriously.. You're better off watching Twilight than this, at least they have gay vampires.

Once more though I'm mystified as to why Hollywood continues to reboot movies that were excellent to begin with. Who not take a good concept badly executed (like Johnny Neumonic) and make it into a good movie?
 
2012-11-26 02:20:31 PM

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Who are you yelling at?


Every single person who has ever said anything to the effect of "lol china owns us" or "selling your children's future to China for more welfare checks", and furthermore
 
2012-11-26 02:23:56 PM

Jackson Herring: Some 'Splainin' To Do: Who are you yelling at?

Every single person who has ever said anything to the effect of "lol china japan owns us" or "selling your children's future to China Japan for more welfare checks", and furthermore


Lets step back to 1987... Didn't happen then, won't happen now. I remember reading quite a few SciFi books written in the 80s and Japan ran the world. Silly concept.
 
2012-11-26 02:24:11 PM
Thor rescues us from Best Korea?  Surely no one would make that movie.
 
2012-11-26 02:30:40 PM
China doesn't own us, capitalism owns the both of us
 
2012-11-26 02:30:51 PM

Pocket Ninja: My opinion of someone who goes to see this movie is about the same as someone who lines up to catch the latest Fast and Furious installment. Maybe slightly lower.


I caught Fast Five on cable once.. wasn't bad. Haven't seen the rest, though, and IMDB does rate that one the highest.
 
2012-11-26 02:31:21 PM

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: This was news 6 months ago when it happened, but yeah Hollywood has no balls. Make a movie that the Chinese won't steal, or make a movie that Americans don't want to see. It was never even a hard choice.


B-but we need moar monies to buy moar nose candy and another learjet!!!!

/hollywoodexecvoiceoff
 
2012-11-26 02:32:42 PM
Right wing conspiracy sites like the wall street journal are getting even crazier now that Obama got reelected. These are the same business decisions that have greeters saying Happy Holidays, you can't alienate pieces of your customer base.
 
2012-11-26 02:32:47 PM
Should have set it in West Texas, and had them be Mexican Cartels. Viola, semi-plausible and no one is offended
 
2012-11-26 02:32:50 PM
Subby must have been one of those a-holes who protested against the US because some guy made an derogatory movie about the Prophet Muhammad. He does not get the idea that the US govt does not control the film industry.

//hell, they don't control the rating system.
 
2012-11-26 02:33:04 PM
Best Korea could take over any country it wanted to. They have transcended Marxist thought. They are on a whole new level of intelligent compared to the rest of the world. That's why I strong support the teaching of Juche to everyone in the US so that we may combat them with their own magnificent wisdom.

If you don't agree with me, well it looks like we're going to have to cut your rations of grass and tree bark down.
 
2012-11-26 02:34:15 PM
Old Hollywood saying : " Hitler could get three movie deal if he had a good opening weekend."
 
2012-11-26 02:34:54 PM

Jackson Herring: China holds around 8% of the national debt. The majority of it is held domestically. You stupid farking xenophobic farks.


t3.gstatic.com

Let the Chicom come collect.
 
2012-11-26 02:36:07 PM
Soviet Russia WAS an enemy of the United States and China is currently a business partner, so there was at least some real fear and reality back in the 80's. The reason nobody would sign on to it is because the entire concept is idiotic. I got it! Lets make a movie about the US invading Canada!
 
2012-11-26 02:37:36 PM

monoski: Subby must have been one of those a-holes who protested against the US because some guy made an derogatory movie about the Prophet Muhammad. He does not get the idea that the US govt does not control the film industry.

//hell, they don't control the rating system.


They do control it through threat of censorship. Had the government not threatened to do so, the industry never would have volunteered to do it themselves. Same with music and game ratings.
 
2012-11-26 02:37:37 PM
# of potential tickets sold by country:

North Korea - 1
China - 1 billion
 
2012-11-26 02:37:55 PM
Original movie: Russians, Cubans, AND Mexicans invade. Not terribly plausible unless they had developed the tech to wipe our our ability to respond, but it's a small leap and a fun escape-from-reality movie.

This movie: One nation with considerably less man-power, economics, technology, and the rest.... decides to drive/fly across the Pacific to invade the US mainland. South Korea, Japan, China, and even Russia apparently sit around letting it happen (and if they were to suddenly change their tune, apparently decide not to assist NK).

Here's hoping this lands among the other unrealistic fantasy trash movies (Atlas Shrugged, etc).
 
2012-11-26 02:38:12 PM

Insatiable Jesus: t3.gstatic.com

Let the Chicom come collect.


Ayup. Which is the reason why both Red Dawn movies are supremely insulting.
 
2012-11-26 02:39:44 PM

xynix: Pocket Ninja: My opinion of someone who goes to see this movie is about the same as someone who lines up to catch the latest Fast and Furious installment. Maybe slightly lower.

I watched the original Red Dawn again a couple nights ago. That was probably my favorite movie growing up as I was young enough to be scared to death of that kind of shiat. The movie was gritty and the casting was spot on. These were desperate, scared, and pissed off kids who were trained in using firearms to a degree by their parents - lifelong hunters. The movie, at least to me, was very believable. Lets face it - we had a great enemy back then. An entire country and population we could hate and point missiles at. Now we have Best Korea and a rag-tag group of terrorists on the outskirts of some shiathole in the middle east.

This new Red Dawn is for the Twilight crowd. All kinds of glitz, great hair, Armani clothes, Somehow the kids get military training growing up in a rich white neighborhood and that's never explained. No one is tough.. They try to make all the "men" sensitive wimps. The girls never seem to get dirty or a hair out of place. Seriously.. You're better off watching Twilight than this, at least they have gay vampires.

Once more though I'm mystified as to why Hollywood continues to reboot movies that were excellent to begin with. Who not take a good concept badly executed (like Johnny Neumonic) and make it into a good movie?


Eh, I went and saw it, more for the lulz than anything else. Pretty stupid, nowhere near as good as the original. The one from the 80's seemed far more realistic. Scared, half starving kids who for the most part pulled small raids on supply convoys, isolated engineer units, and small patrols. This new crew was running around the city pretty much unchecked, shooting up a major metropolitan area with little or no problems. The North Koreans were running around in Humvees and with Abrams tanks for crying out loud. Outside of the AKs, they didn't even attempt to use Soviet equipment, just American gear. They do explain the combat training though. The Patrick Swayze replacement had spent 6 years in the Marines, and was still on active duty, just home on leave. He trained them up, there was a little training montage even. I'm not saying it was realistic, just that it was explained. They also decided to bring the Russians in, helping the NKs, to explain how those losers even got here.
 
2012-11-26 02:39:47 PM

Granny_Panties: I got it! Lets make a movie about the US invading Canada!


www.warof1812.ca

Works for me. We need more movies with strong female leads
 
2012-11-26 02:40:05 PM
We in the US don't have that much history with China relative to other countries. I'd imagine that's the reason why
 
2012-11-26 02:40:31 PM

Granny_Panties: Soviet Russia WAS an enemy of the United States and China is currently a business partner, so there was at least some real fear and reality back in the 80's. The reason nobody would sign on to it is because the entire concept is idiotic. I got it! Lets make a movie about the US Canada invading Canada the US!


content7.flixster.com
 
2012-11-26 02:41:42 PM

Jackson Herring: Some 'Splainin' To Do: Who are you yelling at?

Every single person who has ever said anything to the effect of "lol china owns us" or "selling your children's future to China for more welfare checks", and furthermore


so you must think 0bama is a xenophobe and are angry at him, right?

"take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents"


Besides, they own us more than American households own (1.2T vs. 959B).
 
2012-11-26 02:41:54 PM
Yes, making the enemy North Korea totally ruins the plausibility of this movie.
 
2012-11-26 02:43:20 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Proof that Hollywood markets movies in China, you mean?


Quick and effective. Well done.
 
2012-11-26 02:43:53 PM

Lost Thought 00: Should have set it in West Texas, and had them be Mexican Cartels. Viola, semi-plausible and no one is offended


Other than the Mexicans, the 38.7 million Hispanics in the U.S. and most of Central and South America.
 
2012-11-26 02:44:23 PM

make me some tea: ArkAngel: HulkHands: The best part was the guy saying how it was more realistic to have such a small army (N. Korea) take over and occupy the US

IIRC, North Korea has one of the largest standing armies in the world

They have a million or so soldiers, but their tech sucks. I wouldn't want to ever have to confront them in a land war.


We could sit a few miles off the coast and kill every last one of them with a couple of our really big, disgustingly powerful boats. So we've got that going for us, which is nice.
 
2012-11-26 02:45:10 PM
More than likely China just said, "Don't associate us with this stupid piece of shiat."
 
2012-11-26 02:45:21 PM

devildog123: They also decided to bring the Russians in, helping the NKs, to explain how those losers even got here.


Ah. Well I retract that part of my previous statement.
 
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