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(Reuters)   Chinese "Aircraft Carrier" that at present carries no aircraft, and isn't seaworthy, sucessfully upgraded to "floating runway"   (reuters.com) divider line 200
    More: Interesting, floating runway, Liaoning Province, Iranian Navy, military sciences, People's Liberation Army, aircraft, Hu Jintao  
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2012-11-26 11:05:11 AM
 
2012-11-26 11:10:51 AM
Honestly, an air-craft carrier is SO 20th century-at this point why not build something that can launch thousands of cruise missile and drones? Same bang- a whole lot less buck
 
2012-11-26 11:11:30 AM
Uh oh. Guess we'd better commission another dozen carrier battle groups before we lose our competitive edge.
 
2012-11-26 11:11:31 AM
Crrrrikey.
 
2012-11-26 11:12:13 AM

Pocket Ninja: Uh oh. Guess we'd better commission another dozen carrier battle groups before we lose our competitive edge.


How many Bayonets does it have on board?
 
2012-11-26 11:13:07 AM

Pocket Ninja: Uh oh. Guess we'd better commission another dozen carrier battle groups before we lose our competitive edge.


www.steelfalcon.com

A dozen, you say?
 
2012-11-26 11:22:32 AM
Well done China. You've reached the 1930s level of naval power.
 
2012-11-26 11:33:32 AM

GAT_00: Well done China. You've reached the 1930s level of naval power.

 

Achievement Unlocked- Ready to re-fight WWII
 
2012-11-26 11:42:53 AM

Shadow Blasko: Crrrrikey.


Its Combat Information Center is equipped with P-P-P-Powerbooks
 
2012-11-26 11:55:56 AM

Shadow Blasko: Pocket Ninja: Uh oh. Guess we'd better commission another dozen carrier battle groups before we lose our competitive edge.

How many Bayonets does it have on board?


How many Marines are on board? I think it's a one to one relationship for Marines and Bayonets.
 
2012-11-26 12:13:58 PM
I was *assured* by the right Hon. Rep. from South Derpington that China having an aircraft carrier was the end of US sea supremacy in th Pacific!

/it's really more of a battle cruiser with a stubby runway, in any event
 
2012-11-26 12:23:39 PM
Think of the concept of a dirty bomb, a relatively small explosive device surrounded by toxic substances. It's a threat because it's cheap and relatively simple to create.

Here we have the dirty aircraft carrier. Any state it visits is going to have dead zones for miles around it's ports.
 
2012-11-26 12:31:34 PM
FTFA:

"We should make active planning for the use of military forces in peacetime, expand and intensify military preparedness, and enhance the capability to accomplish a wide range of military tasks, the most important of which is to win local war in an information age," Hu said.

Hu said that?
 
2012-11-26 12:32:31 PM
movableteacher.com

What a super-carrier might look like.
 
2012-11-26 12:33:01 PM
- The J-15 is an unlicensed Su33 copy that clearly violates sukhoi intellectual property. as much as I dislike the Russian government, they have a strong case here. Russia has refused to sell certain aircraft to China now simply because of the belief that China will again act like the thieves that they are, intellectual propertywise.
- The aircraft carrier was bought under false pretenses with promises that it would never be militarized or used as a military vessel. China lies again.

I'm no sinophobe, but the chinese are pretty guilty in this one.

China at work.
 
2012-11-26 12:34:13 PM

Magorn: Honestly, an air-craft carrier is SO 20th century-at this point why not build something that can launch thousands of cruise missile and drones? Same bang- a whole lot less buck


Wouldn't a ship that can launch a bunch of drones look a lot like an aircraft carrier anyway? You wouldn't need pilots on the crew, but you'd still need almost everyone else.
 
2012-11-26 12:34:29 PM
Don't worry, the sailors on board will probably die from lead paint poisoning anyway.
 
2012-11-26 12:35:13 PM
Summon Bayonets!
 
2012-11-26 12:35:18 PM
U.S. Pacific carrier supremacy was lost when the Chinese navy surfaced an undetected sub in the middle of the Kitty Hawk battle group, within torpedo range. This new carrier is nothing but smoke and mirrors.
 
2012-11-26 12:36:26 PM
Unless it has a good CWIS and other point defense systems, then all it is is a big floating target for cruise missiles.
 
2012-11-26 12:36:58 PM
Enough to do what they want for now - project force and get their way in spats with neighboring countries. They aren't trying to go toe-to-toe with the u.s........yet.
 
2012-11-26 12:37:28 PM
The J-15 looks amazingly similar to an F-15 Eagle.
 
2012-11-26 12:38:08 PM
Empty cities and empty carriers. China really is a paper tiger.

It wouldn't surprise me if they are currently mining an area that has nothing worth mining just to keep a town/city employed.
 
2012-11-26 12:38:20 PM
Meh - it's probably a cheap copy that'll only work in the store. One they get it home, it'll stop working and contaminate their children with lead.
 
2012-11-26 12:38:30 PM
I think India's navy is hungry for a fight; can take-out-chinese.
 
2012-11-26 12:38:40 PM
China might now be as powerful as the USA was in 1942. Better spend another trillion dollars refitting our military to maintain superiority over a billion dollar military.
 
2012-11-26 12:38:55 PM

dittybopper: FTFA:

"We should make active planning for the use of military forces in peacetime, expand and intensify military preparedness, and enhance the capability to accomplish a wide range of military tasks, the most important of which is to win local war in an information age," Hu said.

Hu said that?


Yes.
 
2012-11-26 12:41:12 PM

Bomb Head Mohammed: - The J-15 is an unlicensed Su33 copy that clearly violates sukhoi intellectual property. as much as I dislike the Russian government, they have a strong case here. Russia has refused to sell certain aircraft to China now simply because of the belief that China will again act like the thieves that they are, intellectual propertywise.
- The aircraft carrier was bought under false pretenses with promises that it would never be militarized or used as a military vessel. China lies again.

I'm no sinophobe, but the chinese are pretty guilty in this one.

China at work.


Next you'll say there's no lobster in shrimp with lobster sauce.

/ps that's not chicken either.
 
2012-11-26 12:41:18 PM

styckx: The J-15 looks amazingly similar to an F-15 Eagle.


Not sure if serious...
 
2012-11-26 12:41:54 PM
It would look better at the bottom of the Pacific, encrusted in skulls.
 
2012-11-26 12:43:15 PM
Landing an airplane is a show of force?
 
2012-11-26 12:44:54 PM

EdNortonsTwin: I think India's navy is hungry for a fight; can take-out-chinese.


Now I'm hungry for some take-out-chinese....
 
2012-11-26 12:45:17 PM
FTA: "The home-built J-15 fighter jet took off from and landed on the Liaoning, a reconditioned Soviet-era vessel from Ukraine which only came into service in September this year."

What does this even mean? Did some guy build a F-18 knockoff in his garage?

/not that I would put that past them. Crafty, they are...
 
2012-11-26 12:46:54 PM
U.S. Pacific carrier supremacy was lost when the Chinese navy surfaced an undetected sub in the middle of the Kitty Hawk battle group, within torpedo range. This new carrier is nothing but smoke and mirrors.

Citation needed.
 
2012-11-26 12:47:12 PM

Magorn: GAT_00: Well done China. You've reached the 1930s level of naval power. 

Achievement Unlocked- Ready to re-fight WWII


One carrier would have slowed down the Japanese by like....a whole day! So they are still at "prepared to be steamrolled by neighbors" part of WWII
 
2012-11-26 12:47:39 PM

styckx: The J-15 looks amazingly similar to an F-15 Eagle.


I was going to mention that. I thought it was a hybrid F-14/F-15.
 
2012-11-26 12:48:36 PM
tonytiger.jpg
 
2012-11-26 12:49:52 PM

abhorrent1: Landing an airplane is a show of force?


Well it does mean that the planes aren't 1 time use. So they could make multiple attack runs. That's kind of a show of force.
 
2012-11-26 12:49:54 PM
NOBODY has the ability to make an offensive move against the USA. Nobody.
Which makes a scenario of being invaded like the movie Red Dawn a joke.
www.globalsecurity.org
 
2012-11-26 12:50:27 PM

Millennium: Magorn: Honestly, an air-craft carrier is SO 20th century-at this point why not build something that can launch thousands of cruise missile and drones? Same bang- a whole lot less buck

Wouldn't a ship that can launch a bunch of drones look a lot like an aircraft carrier anyway? You wouldn't need pilots on the crew, but you'd still need almost everyone else.


what you describe would be in no way a replacement for an AC.

AC is to totally dominate local* airspace. what you are describing would be an over sized missile boat and recon platform, it would not create any sort of air superiority situation, but would be, if it were fast and stealthy enough, be a nasty attack craft to send with AC's to be able to hit harder.
 
2012-11-26 12:50:55 PM

mainstreet62: styckx: The J-15 looks amazingly similar to an F-15 Eagle.

I was going to mention that. I thought it was a hybrid F-14/F-15.


I hit send too soon.

The winglets in front are new. The F-14 has wings that can be swept back, but these look fixed. Probably just added them so they can claim they didn't plagiarize US design for the 5 billionth time....
 
2012-11-26 12:52:19 PM

BronyMedic: Well, isn't that quaint.

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Heh. Aircraft carriers make nice, juicy sub targets:

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All sunk by submarines.

/Probably an incomplete list.
 
2012-11-26 12:52:31 PM

BronyMedic: Pocket Ninja: Uh oh. Guess we'd better commission another dozen carrier battle groups before we lose our competitive edge.

[www.steelfalcon.com image 600x222]

A dozen, you say?


Link

So the Ark royal will be a bran new carrier without any planes to fly off its deck? Sounds british to me..
 
2012-11-26 12:52:39 PM

baronvonzipper: U.S. Pacific carrier supremacy was lost when the Chinese navy surfaced an undetected sub in the middle of the Kitty Hawk battle group, within torpedo range. This new carrier is nothing but smoke and mirrors.


A) Armed forces generally don't announce "oh yeah we picked them up 40 miles away" even if they did
B) any sub sitting around on batteries can have a fleet blunder over them.
 
2012-11-26 12:53:15 PM

mainstreet62:
The winglets in front are new. The F-14 has wings that can be swept back, but these look fixed. Probably just added them so they can claim they didn't plagiarize US design for the 5 billionth time....


Yes if it's one thing China worries about it's the negative connotations of ripping off other's work.

You in the market for a Folex?
 
2012-11-26 12:54:13 PM
www.sydesjokes.com
What a Chinese Aircraft Carrier may look like.

/Or, China's newest nuclear submarine struts its stuff.
 
2012-11-26 12:54:22 PM

Mithiwithi: dittybopper: FTFA:

"We should make active planning for the use of military forces in peacetime, expand and intensify military preparedness, and enhance the capability to accomplish a wide range of military tasks, the most important of which is to win local war in an information age," Hu said.

Hu said that?

Yes.


So Yes said it?
 
2012-11-26 12:54:23 PM
If you zoom in to the picture and look very close, you will see one of those smiley face Walmart stickers on it.
 
2012-11-26 12:54:24 PM

Linoleum_Blownapart: dirty bomb


A dirty bomb is a joke, the sort of suicide note one sends when putting a bullet through your own skull is less preferable to dying in the fire of nuclear retaliation, or simply hellfire from the local drone.

Seriously though, the dirty bomb is the upper-decker of nuclear warfare, in that you'll get shot breaking in to leave one.
 
2012-11-26 12:54:31 PM

Bomb Head Mohammed: Russia has refused to sell certain aircraft to China now simply because of the belief that China will again act like the thieves that they are, intellectual propertywise.



That's pretty rich, coming from Russia.
 
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