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(ESPN)   Both of the Seattle Seahawks starting cornerbacks are up for suspension for taking performance enhancers. The rest of the league still thinks those monsters were grown in a mad scientist's lab, but this is a start   (espn.go.com) divider line 103
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2012-11-26 01:41:28 PM

robsul82: How're they gonna write their term papers now?!?


You know... come to think of it, it would certainly help memorizing their playbookHAHAHAHAHAHA almost got that sentence out
 
2012-11-26 01:42:57 PM
If Sherman winds up actually having taken it, he will still only be my second favorite Adderall user behind Annie Edison.
 
2012-11-26 01:43:02 PM

seumasokelly: They just got paid back in Miami with that roughing the passer flag on Thomas that negated an endzone INT.


Uh, how so? I really don't get the butthurt from Seahawks fans on this. The call on the TD vs Green Bay was incorrect.

The roughing call yesterday was quite obviously correct. Thomas hit Tannehill in the helmet. Intent doesn't enter into it. If you hit the QB in the helmet, it's roughly. End of story.

I also love that the roughing call was apparently bogus, but the non-call on Golden Tate tackling Sean Smith before making the catch to give Seattle the lead was totes alright.
 
2012-11-26 01:43:37 PM

Treygreen13: You know... come to think of it, it would certainly help memorizing their playbookHAHAHAHAHAHA almost got that sentence out


Says the guy whose team got beat 27-7.
 
2012-11-26 01:44:15 PM

RickyWilliams'sBong: seumasokelly: They just got paid back in Miami with that roughing the passer flag on Thomas that negated an endzone INT.

Uh, how so? I really don't get the butthurt from Seahawks fans on this. The call on the TD vs Green Bay was incorrect.

The roughing call yesterday was quite obviously correct. Thomas hit Tannehill in the helmet. Intent doesn't enter into it. If you hit the QB in the helmet, it's roughly roughing. End of story.

I also love that the roughing call was apparently bogus, but the non-call on Golden Tate tackling Sean Smith before making the catch to give Seattle the lead was totes alright.


FTFM.
 
2012-11-26 01:46:09 PM

RickyWilliams'sBong: but the non-call on Golden Tate tackling Sean Smith before making the catch to give Seattle the lead was totes alright.


Yeah, it's weird how they don't call PI on diving for a pass while the defender just stands there not making a play on the ball.

/if anything it should've been a TD since the contact that took him down occurred before he had possession
//lesson learned, Thomas - you're going to get flagged no matter what, so f*cking hit him as hard as you can
 
2012-11-26 01:46:44 PM

karmaceutical: Have you contemplated the idea that perhaps not everyone takes it exactly as prescribed? Especially those with no prescriptions?


Right.

Adderall has much different effects on people without ADHD. People take it recreationally. If it was like caffeine, they'd buy a bottle of 200 caffeine pills for $5 rather than one Adderall pill for $10.
 
2012-11-26 01:47:19 PM

RickyWilliams'sBong: seumasokelly: They just got paid back in Miami with that roughing the passer flag on Thomas that negated an endzone INT.

Uh, how so? I really don't get the butthurt from Seahawks fans on this. The call on the TD vs Green Bay was incorrect.

The roughing call yesterday was quite obviously correct. Thomas hit Tannehill in the helmet. Intent doesn't enter into it. If you hit the QB in the helmet, it's roughly. End of story.

I also love that the roughing call was apparently bogus, but the non-call on Golden Tate tackling Sean Smith before making the catch to give Seattle the lead was totes alright.


The play that Tate jumped over him on? Mike Pereira said it was fine (with the benefit of replay) and so did the ref standing next to it. No interference on either player.

Also, I don't recall stating an opinion on it, let alone the one you stuffed in my mouth.
 
2012-11-26 01:48:32 PM
Hasn't it been correlated that the dumber you are the better DB you are? Maybe they bought what they thought was coke from some classy looking dealer outside a Starbucks, but turned out to be the ground up Adderall (using a burr grinder, no less) from a Washington student's midterm all nighter?
 
2012-11-26 01:49:29 PM

IAmRight: Treygreen13: You know... come to think of it, it would certainly help memorizing their playbookHAHAHAHAHAHA almost got that sentence out

Says the guy whose team got beat 27-7.


The problem in that game wasn't that Seahawks corners were good - huge drive killing drops and penalties - and then the Cowboys defense just got ran the hell over in the 2nd half. The Cowboys had less than a minute of possession in the 4th quarter because the defense was getting trucked.
 
2012-11-26 02:03:31 PM

poughdrew: Hasn't it been correlated that the dumber you are the better DB you are?


Not in Sherman's case at least. He has a Bachelor's from Stanford and is going for his Master's.
 
2012-11-26 02:06:53 PM

seumasokelly: The play that Tate jumped over him on? Mike Pereira said it was fine (with the benefit of replay) and so did the ref standing next to it. No interference on either player.

Also, I don't recall stating an opinion on it, let alone the one you stuffed in my mouth.


Sure you did:

They just got paid back in Miami with that roughing the passer flag on Thomas that negated an endzone INT.

A correct call isn't payback for an incorrect call.
 
2012-11-26 02:07:24 PM

Gonz: "hey, is that John Candy?"


Joe Montana was a corner?
 
2012-11-26 02:10:16 PM

KiwDaWabbit: karmaceutical: Have you contemplated the idea that perhaps not everyone takes it exactly as prescribed? Especially those with no prescriptions?

Right.

Adderall has much different effects on people without ADHD. People take it recreationally. If it was like caffeine, they'd buy a bottle of 200 caffeine pills for $5 rather than one Adderall pill for $10.


This.
Adderall is speed. When people that don't have ADHD take it, it gives them tremendous amounts of energy. One place that I worked, all of the managers used it and were encouraging all of the people in my department to get a prescription for it so that we could work 15 hour days like it was nothing. And it is so easy to get a prescription for it, all you have to do is go to a doctor and say you are having problems concentrating and focusing, and you will get a prescription. Doctors hand them you like candy.

These guys could have gotten a legit prescription from a doctor, and maybe they could have really had ADHD, their problem seems that they didn't submit paper work to the NFL saying they were under doctors care for ADHD and were prescribed Adderall. Some people that really have ADHD are ashamed of it and don't want people to know that they are being treated for it.
 
2012-11-26 02:21:07 PM

Chulainn: Gonz: "hey, is that John Candy?"

Joe Montana was a corner?


I couldn't think of a better example of an NFL playerjust kinda looking off into the stands.

Although, if people today are seeing John Candy, they're probably taking Dock Ellis' PED.
 
2012-11-26 02:23:36 PM

RickyWilliams'sBong: seumasokelly: The play that Tate jumped over him on? Mike Pereira said it was fine (with the benefit of replay) and so did the ref standing next to it. No interference on either player.

Also, I don't recall stating an opinion on it, let alone the one you stuffed in my mouth.

Sure you did:

They just got paid back in Miami with that roughing the passer flag on Thomas that negated an endzone INT.

A correct call isn't payback for an incorrect call.


That was regarding a different play, numbnuts.
 
2012-11-26 02:30:33 PM

Treygreen13: Slow To Return: I don't see a Tony Romo thread. Can we make this thread the Tony Romo thread?

[i2.kym-cdn.com image 361x297]


Cowboys fan. Noted. Do you like apples?
 
2012-11-26 02:32:42 PM

ongbok: KiwDaWabbit: karmaceutical: Have you contemplated the idea that perhaps not everyone takes it exactly as prescribed? Especially those with no prescriptions?

Right.

Adderall has much different effects on people without ADHD. People take it recreationally. If it was like caffeine, they'd buy a bottle of 200 caffeine pills for $5 rather than one Adderall pill for $10.

This.
Adderall is speed. When people that don't have ADHD take it, it gives them tremendous amounts of energy. One place that I worked, all of the managers used it and were encouraging all of the people in my department to get a prescription for it so that we could work 15 hour days like it was nothing. And it is so easy to get a prescription for it, all you have to do is go to a doctor and say you are having problems concentrating and focusing, and you will get a prescription. Doctors hand them you like candy.

These guys could have gotten a legit prescription from a doctor, and maybe they could have really had ADHD, their problem seems that they didn't submit paper work to the NFL saying they were under doctors care for ADHD and were prescribed Adderall. Some people that really have ADHD are ashamed of it and don't want people to know that they are being treated for it.


FWIW, Sherman does seem like the type for ADHD.
 
2012-11-26 02:37:52 PM
Adderall will keep you alert, not make you into monster. Retarded subby needs to learn his drugs.
 
2012-11-26 03:07:09 PM

Tickle Mittens: Super Chronic: IAmRight: Gunny Highway: Can you get a doctor's note and be cleared?

Not after the fact. One of those things where it has to be on file with the league well in advance.

/I like that multiple DUIs gets you 1-2 games while Adderall is 4 games
//which means that yes, it's considered a performance enhancing drug, rather than being based on the personal conduct scale

Giants RB Andre Brown was let off the hook despite not having done the paperwork in advance.

Count me among those who can't possibly imagine that Adderall actually confers an appreciable advantage on the field. Maybe it does something for the crushing boredom of film study.

It takes the edge off both sides, if you need it. I can't speak to how their expience with AD(H)D is, but with mine sometimes I couldn't focus to get on task, and sometimes I couldn't refocus to move on to a new task. Many people find Adderall or the like to be a stimulant, but for me it was more calming. The biggest change was probably when I would take Adderall, and as soon as it took effect my handwriting changed from illegible to neat.

I would probably still need to take it daily if it weren't for the near ubiquitious ability to spell and grammar check. I wouldn't be surprised if this whole thing comes to nothing.

whizbangthedirtfarmer: /that and the infuriating playcalling in Detroit and Miami

I do not even want to hear it. If the defense or offensive line played anything near where their capable, it wouldn't have mattered.


In the last few games Seattle won, the fourth quarter playcalling was excellent, and the Sehawks chewed up massive amounts of time to kill the clock. In Miami and Detroit, they simply called three runs and then punted again. Ridiculous.
 
2012-11-26 03:17:39 PM
I don't like RIchard Sherman...self-congratulatory, unoriginal loudmouth. If he's guilty, awesome. Suspend his punk ass.

/he is good and the team I root for plays his next week.
 
2012-11-26 03:29:21 PM
I can't remember where I read it, but the reason Adderall seems to be the "drug of choice" is because that is what the players/agents want you to hear. Since the league isn't allowed to say what exactly somebody tested positive for there is no way to refute a player's claim that it was "harmless" Adderall or a tainted supplement and not an evil steroid or HGH.

/Jermaine Cunningham of the Pats was also just suspended for 4 games
//No wonder he was playing well for a stretch there
///And Brandon Boldin is back from his suspension next week
 
2012-11-26 03:39:31 PM

downtownkid: I do find it hard to believe, though. Pete Carroll wouldn't allow cheating in a program he runs.


llddr.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-26 03:42:15 PM
Buncha farking dopers. Ban them for life and strip the wins of any team with a member who has tested positive for doping.

/I'm sure all of Farkdom will agree with me
//just applying what I learned in the Armstrong threads
 
2012-11-26 03:48:28 PM
i.chzbgr.com

This about sums up my feelings.
 
2012-11-26 03:56:18 PM
FYI, Adderall is no more banned in the NFL than it is in the rest of the country. If you have a doctor's prescription, you can possess and use it.

And after doing a slight bit of reading, the supposed reason the NFL lists it as a PED is that under small doses, would help with breaking down film and what not. I didn't find anyone claiming it might increase performance on the field WITHOUT using during the week to help break things down off the field.
 
2012-11-26 03:58:17 PM

digistil: FYI, Adderall is no more banned in the NFL than it is in the rest of the country. If you have a doctor's prescription, you can possess and use it.

And after doing a slight bit of reading, the supposed reason the NFL lists it as a PED is that under small doses, would help with breaking down film and what not. I didn't find anyone claiming it might increase performance on the field WITHOUT using during the week to help break things down off the field.


27.media.tumblr.com ?
 
2012-11-26 03:59:07 PM

relaxitsjustme: Buncha farking dopers. Ban them for life and strip the wins of any team with a member who has tested positive for doping.

/I'm sure all of Farkdom will agree with me
//just applying what I learned in the Armstrong Ryan Braun threads


Not fixing, just adding.
 
2012-11-26 04:04:44 PM

roc6783: relaxitsjustme: Buncha farking dopers. Ban them for life and strip the wins of any team with a member who has tested positive for doping.

/I'm sure all of Farkdom will agree with me
//just applying what I learned in the Armstrong Ryan Braun threads

Not fixing, just adding.


As someone who didn't care about Braun but am happy to sh*t on Armstrong...Armstrong deserves every bit of the sh*t he's getting not for cheating - don't care about that - but for spending his entire career acting holier-than-thou about everyone else's cheating, bribing people, threatening people who would tell, and generally being a piece of sh*t that used an overwrought story about cancer to do whatever he wanted while getting a free pass.

Sherman's trolled some (U Mad) and had some fun (Twitter name change to Optimus Prime), but unless I see him out there doing stuff to the extent of Armstrong, that's ridiculous.
 
2012-11-26 04:11:17 PM

IAmRight: roc6783: relaxitsjustme: ***snip***

Sherman's trolled some (U Mad) and had some fun (Twitter name change to Optimus Prime), but unless I see him out there doing stuff to the extent of Armstrong, that's ridiculous.


I bet you don't have the ball to say that to his face.


//Sorry, contractual obligations and all that.
 
2012-11-26 04:15:33 PM

roc6783: I bet you don't have the ball to say that to his face.


What's he going to do, outrun me to death?
 
2012-11-26 04:19:42 PM

IAmRight: roc6783: I bet you don't have the ball to say that to his face.

What's he going to do, outrun me to death?


Give you Cancer AIDS Herpes or CAIDSH for short. Highly contagious.
 
2012-11-26 04:20:55 PM

digistil: FYI, Adderall is no more banned in the NFL than it is in the rest of the country. If you have a doctor's prescription, you can possess and use it.

And after doing a slight bit of reading, the supposed reason the NFL lists it as a PED is that under small doses, would help with breaking down film and what not. I didn't find anyone claiming it might increase performance on the field WITHOUT using during the week to help break things down off the field.


See, now that's what I speculated upthread!

I tried to look it up too, but only saw some headlines that might or might not have contained the answer. I just didn't have the energy to follow through. If only there were some kind of medication to help me concentrate enough to read multiple articles from start to finish.
 
2012-11-26 04:54:58 PM
So nobody here sees how amphetamines could possibly enhance performance ? 

Weird
 
2012-11-26 05:02:50 PM

IAmRight: R.A.Danny: Marcus Trufant and Walter Thurmond

Eh, Eric Wright was facing suspension for the same thing in October and still hasn't missed a week. But f*ck it, if they do get suspended it's a nice chance to possibly develop depth for the future, it might encourage Carroll to stop telling the offense to let off the accelerator, and we might end up better off for it. Doubt we're winning a SB anyway since we'd have to go on the road to do it.


Not on topic but am I the only person thinking Russell Wilson is doing a fantastic job?
 
2012-11-26 05:05:16 PM

jigsawspartan: IAmRight: R.A.Danny: Marcus Trufant and Walter Thurmond

Eh, Eric Wright was facing suspension for the same thing in October and still hasn't missed a week. But f*ck it, if they do get suspended it's a nice chance to possibly develop depth for the future, it might encourage Carroll to stop telling the offense to let off the accelerator, and we might end up better off for it. Doubt we're winning a SB anyway since we'd have to go on the road to do it.

Not on topic but am I the only person thinking Russell Wilson is doing a fantastic job?


Well, at home. Away, not so much.
 
2012-11-26 05:15:49 PM

Treygreen13: jigsawspartan: IAmRight: R.A.Danny: Marcus Trufant and Walter Thurmond

Eh, Eric Wright was facing suspension for the same thing in October and still hasn't missed a week. But f*ck it, if they do get suspended it's a nice chance to possibly develop depth for the future, it might encourage Carroll to stop telling the offense to let off the accelerator, and we might end up better off for it. Doubt we're winning a SB anyway since we'd have to go on the road to do it.

Not on topic but am I the only person thinking Russell Wilson is doing a fantastic job?

Well, at home. Away, not so much.


His home stats are ridiculously good, but if his receivers could catch the ball his road split would be much better. Last I saw they had or were close to most drops this season.

I couldn't be happier with the guy.
 
2012-11-26 05:16:30 PM

Treygreen13: jigsawspartan: IAmRight: R.A.Danny: Marcus Trufant and Walter Thurmond

Eh, Eric Wright was facing suspension for the same thing in October and still hasn't missed a week. But f*ck it, if they do get suspended it's a nice chance to possibly develop depth for the future, it might encourage Carroll to stop telling the offense to let off the accelerator, and we might end up better off for it. Doubt we're winning a SB anyway since we'd have to go on the road to do it.

Not on topic but am I the only person thinking Russell Wilson is doing a fantastic job?

Well, at home. Away, not so much.


Yesterday at Miami: 21/27, 224 yds (8.3 ypa), 0 INT, 2 TD; 5 carries for 38 yards
 
2012-11-26 05:22:04 PM

Super Chronic: Treygreen13: jigsawspartan: IAmRight: R.A.Danny: Marcus Trufant and Walter Thurmond

Eh, Eric Wright was facing suspension for the same thing in October and still hasn't missed a week. But f*ck it, if they do get suspended it's a nice chance to possibly develop depth for the future, it might encourage Carroll to stop telling the offense to let off the accelerator, and we might end up better off for it. Doubt we're winning a SB anyway since we'd have to go on the road to do it.

Not on topic but am I the only person thinking Russell Wilson is doing a fantastic job?

Well, at home. Away, not so much.

Yesterday at Miami: 21/27, 224 yds (8.3 ypa), 0 INT, 2 TD; 5 carries for 38 yards


As the seasons gone along he's gotten much better. Just read an article where he's the first rookie qb ever to have three straight games with a 125+ qbr.
 
2012-11-26 05:25:27 PM

jigsawspartan: Super Chronic: Treygreen13: jigsawspartan: IAmRight: R.A.Danny: Marcus Trufant and Walter Thurmond

Eh, Eric Wright was facing suspension for the same thing in October and still hasn't missed a week. But f*ck it, if they do get suspended it's a nice chance to possibly develop depth for the future, it might encourage Carroll to stop telling the offense to let off the accelerator, and we might end up better off for it. Doubt we're winning a SB anyway since we'd have to go on the road to do it.

Not on topic but am I the only person thinking Russell Wilson is doing a fantastic job?

Well, at home. Away, not so much.

Yesterday at Miami: 21/27, 224 yds (8.3 ypa), 0 INT, 2 TD; 5 carries for 38 yards

As the seasons gone along he's gotten much better. Just read an article where he's the first rookie qb ever to have three straight games with a 125+ qbr.


Yes, it is absolutely not Wilson's fault that Seattle lost at Miami and Detroit. You could make the case in the losses to St. Louis and Arizona, but I think in those losses, Wilson still was dealing with a limited playbook. As the season's progressed, and the coaches have given him more options, he is becoming extremely efficient.

I am completely pleased with his performance so far. His long ball is severely underrated.
 
2012-11-26 05:30:28 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: jigsawspartan: Super Chronic: Treygreen13: jigsawspartan: IAmRight: R.A.Danny: Marcus Trufant and Walter Thurmond

Eh, Eric Wright was facing suspension for the same thing in October and still hasn't missed a week. But f*ck it, if they do get suspended it's a nice chance to possibly develop depth for the future, it might encourage Carroll to stop telling the offense to let off the accelerator, and we might end up better off for it. Doubt we're winning a SB anyway since we'd have to go on the road to do it.

Not on topic but am I the only person thinking Russell Wilson is doing a fantastic job?

Well, at home. Away, not so much.

Yesterday at Miami: 21/27, 224 yds (8.3 ypa), 0 INT, 2 TD; 5 carries for 38 yards

As the seasons gone along he's gotten much better. Just read an article where he's the first rookie qb ever to have three straight games with a 125+ qbr.

Yes, it is absolutely not Wilson's fault that Seattle lost at Miami and Detroit. You could make the case in the losses to St. Louis and Arizona, but I think in those losses, Wilson still was dealing with a limited playbook. As the season's progressed, and the coaches have given him more options, he is becoming extremely efficient.

I am completely pleased with his performance so far. His long ball is severely underrated.


Couldn't agree more. That loss to the 49ers I can think of four huge drops alone that would have either converted a 3rd down or in one case scored a TD. Those deep balls are gorgeous.

/icky.
 
2012-11-26 05:46:22 PM

mikaloyd: So nobody here sees how amphetamines could possibly enhance performance ? 

Weird


Nope...nopenopenopenopenopenopenopenopenope..., nope. Not only can they enhance performance, it is illegal to possess them without a prescription, so if the NFL wants to give a sense of "protecting the shield" they need to suspend guys who are using illegal drugs, performance enhancing or not. Ricky Williams was gonna add more, but he wandered off to find some Funyuns.

whizbangthedirtfarmer: jigsawspartan: Super Chronic: Treygreen13: jigsawspartan: IAmRight: R.A.Danny: ***snip***

I am completely pleased with his performance so far. His long ball is severely underrated.


He played baseball, clearly he knows chicks dig the long ball.

///Could the Seahawks trade him back to the Badgers? Just for the Big 42 Championship game and the inevitable Rose Bowl loss?
 
2012-11-26 06:03:29 PM

jigsawspartan: Those deep balls are gorgeous.

/icky.


Why don't you and the new quarterback get a room?!!!
 
2012-11-26 06:42:12 PM

mikaloyd: So nobody here sees how amphetamines could possibly enhance performance ? 

Weird


I don't think most people realize that Adderall is a very powerful amphetamine.
 
2012-11-26 07:22:54 PM
Seriously... people, have you heard Brandon Browner attempt to carry a conversation?

I don't know if Adderall is the right drug for him, but he needs something.
 
2012-11-26 09:25:12 PM

seumasokelly: machoprogrammer: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Well, if this is true and they are suspended, they will possibly be solely responsible for the Seahawks missing the playoffs.

/that and the infuriating playcalling in Detroit and Miami

Well they did get a free win against GB

They just got paid back in Miami with that roughing the passer flag on Thomas that negated an endzone INT.


As long as it's being brought up...if the real refs were in that game, we would've won...there was a ton of calls that wouldn't have been called on Rodger's 1 yd td run drive in order to negate that down to the 3 and out it would've been in the first place.

The playcalling is what is going to kill our team, not 2 cornerbacks. Bevell is playing not to lose, not playcalling to win.

And yes, Adderall is essentially speed. It's an amphetamine, and despite what these 2 kids are saying; only 1 player *ever* has successfully appealed against a PED claim (and Ryan Braun got off on a technicality).

Might as well get the 4 games over with and prep for next year....49ers are gonna clean up shop anyway.
 
2012-11-26 10:48:04 PM

machoprogrammer: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Well, if this is true and they are suspended, they will possibly be solely responsible for the Seahawks missing the playoffs.

/that and the infuriating playcalling in Detroit and Miami

Well they did get a free win against GB


Nice try, troll, but it's been illustrated again and again that the win was legit. Let it go, pussy.
 
2012-11-26 11:06:28 PM

Your Average Witty Fark User: machoprogrammer: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Well, if this is true and they are suspended, they will possibly be solely responsible for the Seahawks missing the playoffs.

/that and the infuriating playcalling in Detroit and Miami

Well they did get a free win against GB

Nice try, troll, but it's been illustrated again and again that the win was legit. Let it go, pussy.


I'm confused, what the hell does your post even mean? It has been illustrated that it was a legit win? Who was the artist and where can I see the picture?
 
2012-11-26 11:11:54 PM
I made it half-way through the thread and didn't notice anybody saying how it's always Adderall. As if that's the most benign thing you can be busted with in the eyes of the public. The league doesn't announce what they tested positive for. It's spin, it's the players and their agents putting it out there that it was "just" Adderall.
 
2012-11-27 01:06:44 AM
Ugh...we are dead if we have to rely on Marcus Trufant in the backfield.

A rookie ate him alive on Sunday.
 
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